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February 9, 2008 |

Will Grand Theft Auto IV help Xbox 360 beat PS3 in 2008?

By Dave Parrack





Will Grand Theft Auto IV help Xbox 360 beat PS3 in 2008?There’s no doubt that one of the biggest games releases due this year is that of Grand Theft Auto IV, the latest in the best selling Rockstar franchise. The question is, will the game make any difference to the console sales war currently being waged by Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo?

GTA IV has been the most talked about future release on the next generation consoles almost since the day it was announced. The game will be coming out on both the Xbox 360, and PS3 in a simultaneous release in April. Although the Wii will be missing out, that doesn’t mean it’s immune from the effect the game could have on hardware sales.

The first thing to note is that the Xbox 360 will have extra content available to download after the initial game is released, thanks to a deal between Microsoft and Rockstar. These will be available via Xbox Live, and will be exclusive to the Xbox, with PS3 owners missing out.

In a recent interview with Wired magazine at the DICE summit, Shane Kim, corporate vice president of Microsoft Game Studios put forward the notion that this means the Xbox 360 already effectively owns the GTA IV launch, telling them:

“We already own it, I believe, from a content standpoint, because we have the exclusive episodes. And so Xbox 360 is still going to have the ultimate experience for GTAIV. But we have to make sure the customers know that.”

“Because if you look back, again, to the role of GTAIII and what that played in terms of PS2’s development — in Europe as well, because it was huge in Europe — GTAIV, first time on our platforms, so that’s a great opportunity for us. We need to take advantage of it.”

Clearly Microsoft have put the utmost importance in the release of GTA IV, and getting the message across to consumers that to get the full experience, they will need to own an Xbox 360.

But gamers are a savvy bunch, so will buy a console based on more than just some exclusive content being available (at a price) for one game. A game which is also available on a rival console, and so not an exclusive in the same way that Halo is.

The PS3 actually has a few advantages over the Xbox 360 at the time of writing, with the Blu-ray player included from the off, and a whole host of 100% exclusive games on the way, including Final Fantasy XIII, Gran Turismo 5 and Metal Gear Solid IV.

So personally, I don’t think the release of Grand Theft Auto IV will actually favour the Xbox 360 much at all. However, the Wii on the other hand, is another proposition, being the console which will be left out of the hype surrounding the game entirely.

I can definitely see sales of the Wii dropping off a little come April, while sales of both the PS3 and Xbox 360 surge on the strength of GTA IV, as well as the other goodies on their way during 2008.

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    66 Responses to “Will Grand Theft Auto IV help Xbox 360 beat PS3 in 2008?”

    1. bryan:

      while i mostly agree about the ps3 not being hurt since it is still getting the gta4, and other exclusives as well, i wouldnt count out the wii

      were there is gta4 exclusive on 360 or ps3, you have ssbb on the wii, where there is mgs4, you have mario kart

      sure there not targeted at the same audience, but i think that further helps out nintendo, nintendo has their own exclusives games that people have just gotta have, and there are still people looking for a wii everyday, alot of which are hardcore gamers who want a wii before brawl comes out, so i sorta count nintendo out of the 360 and ps3 race, i think the competition is between sony and microsoft, and i personaly believe sony will take the win, but not as early as people are predicting, i dont think itle be this year, but by next year sony should start to show up on top more often, and the next xbox will probably come out 4 and a half years after the 360……

    2. hi:

      i have seen articles on this site and i must say it is very anti -sony

    3. lame:

      This site is so 360 fanboy.

      Might as well change the domain to 360gamer.biased.com

      Seriously, you act as if GTA4 is an 360 exclusive, gtfo.

    4. superdynamite:

      http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=8205771&publicUserId=5789401

    5. Sparced:

      I agree this blog is ridiculous, I followed a link from Google’s News section. Deranged ramblings.

      Two “stories” of DLC content wont make any difference. People still associate the GTA brand with the PlayStation if they have yet to purchase either console.

      Rockstar have three PS3 exclusives games after GTA has been and gone. LA. Noire, Red Dead Revolver 2 and a yet to be announced title that will be a new franchise. All said to be only achievable on PS3 hardware according to them.

      I think they’re still pissed at Microsoft for shipping one console without any hard drive and using DVD9, the 360 problems have caused limitations.

    6. The Future of Sega:

      What a bunch of traitors! How the hell can you start making a franchise game on one console, then all of sudden switch boards!?….sniff….sniff……smells like bullshit to me :)

    7. Media Man:

      Nah…The xbox market is saturated and few gamers care about the extra content. All they want is the main game. Also I get the vibe that extra content will see its way to the ps3 as well.

    8. Ivan_PSP:

      The Grand Theft Auto series was born on PlayStation like every other game that’s a hit. So no i know the PLAYSTATION 3version will sell more is just shitty downloadble content for a limited time… Xbox 360 is dying HD DVD fail to Blu-ray Disc and most Xbox 360 are dying also over heating or ren light of death. Rockstar Games loves Sony a little more PS3 is a real video game system Xbox just FPS that’s all they got. This article is pure hating on Sony’s PS3 stop the fanboy crap on this low traffic website.

    9. bigd:

      Downloadable content for ps3 was also recently confirmed by rockstar just not directly at launch. So play the game and by the time you get near to finishing this massive game the content should be there for you to download. Rockstar played this one pretty clever, get microsoft to shell out millions for exclusive content then keep sony sweet by giving them their own.

    10. will.... i hate the xbox:

      Dave Parrack has no idea what he is on about, neither do microsoft. microsoft came out and said that because they are starting to fear the ps3, the first of these episodes will arrive at theend of this year and the next one 10 months from then so its a long wait, and R* made a mistake accepting microsofts offer because not all xbox’s have a hard drive so god only knows how they are going to store ths content and the episodes will not be free, and the money that microsoft payed R* to have the episodes is going back to micrsoft because it costs money to put the episodes on XBL, also GTA4 will have the same impact as DMC4 had, DMC4 was originally a PS2 exclsive, now it is more popular on the PS3 and as a result it is selling systems, it will be the same on the PS3, it will sell a huge amount of systems for the PS3. microsft is using words to twist the minds of others, never trust microsoft.

    11. phoe:

      Lol Ivan_PSP dont be such a fanboy, all the shiz your just type just makes you sound like a 10 year old

    12. iom:

      I dont think anyone who gives a shit about downloadable content would not already have one of the two consoles.

    13. SRS:

      M$ is getting worried PS3 already sold more units in its first year than 360 did. and they know they will get passed this year.. panic time for them. the RROD 360 box is fading fast.. and they had to pay for that content too lets not forget that..

    14. goro:

      Do you gyus understand the fact that the DLC will be like SA and vice city?

    15. FijianDoce:

      buy 360? a little bit of extra content? wow! thats amazing “not”. if it was fully exclusive then maybe i would go nd buy one but its not. and how can someone say “own”, they dont, its still being released on the ps3.
      nd when GTAIII was released it was exclusive to ps2 so im not purprised it sold well.
      Microsoft really wants to push that thier console is better, and its getting a bit anoying. quite frankly with all the highly anticipated exclusives coming to the ps3 i think i was better of investing my money in it.

    16. Chris Crocker:

      @goro lol you probably missed GTA SA & GTA VC 4 years ago. Oh wait the XBOX dont have those two^^ theyre in the PS2.

    17. Kyle:

      I have both console so i really dont care. Here is my opinion. Maybe the PS3 doesn’t need the downloadable content. Maybe “the full experience” is already included on the blu-ray disc, since it holds 5 times as much or something. I think the xbox live DLC is M$ excuse for not being able to hold 50 gigs. “Buy the game, then download the rest of it”.

    18. nick asdjkfbkjew:

      you cant forget that the controlson the 360 ver suck.I hated playing san andreas on the xbox it was way easyer to play on my ps2. I have both 360 and ps3 and im buying it on my ps3. idc about a few episodes or achivments that dont do anything

    19. Hollie:

      I don’t think the DLC will be a system seller. People with both systems who have to make a choice between getting it on the ps3 or the 360, for them DLC may be a swaying factor.

    20. Ivan_PSP:

      Xbox 360 will die this year Sony’s has a massive exclusive catalog which expands from PLATFORM games to FPS (The only genre Xbox 360 has) GTA will never make Xbox move console that’s for sure. GTAIV Might be realeasing too close to Metal Gear Solid 5: Guns of the Patriots.

    21. Johnny:

      I own a PS3 and an Xbox 360 and guess what… I’ll be buying the PS3 version of GTA4… I just don’t care much about some DL content that wont contribute much to the overall game. R* may make exclusive DL content for the PS store anyway. This is not a big deal and it wont hurt Sony much at all especially considering that there are other huge games coming out for the PS3 that are exclusive such as MGS4, GT5, FFXIII, FFXIII Versus, KZ2, Resistance 2, Uncharted DF 2 and Rockstar will be mostly PS3 exclusive after GTA4 cause L.A. Noir and Rockstar’s next game franchise is PS3 exclusive. So I hope xbots enjoy their DL content cause I’ll be enjoying all these PS3 exclusive games….

    22. OMEN:

      360 has 2 extra missons that ps3 doesnt have,SO WHAT I DONT RALY CARE.
      at least my ps3 wont overheat.
      if they made this game only for the PS3 this games would look better and bigger,maybe GTA,san andreas wont come out for 360,cuz san andreas is too big for a DVD.

    23. Kaz:

      You guys are just a bunch of Sony worshipping freaks, but normal people will want the achievments and extra content for the same price as you pay. Also folks who dont own either console yet will want the cheapest entry point to access GTA4, so they will pick up a 360 just cuz it will likely be 300 dollars by this time.

    24. Mike:

      When Assasin’s creed was released sony made a good job of advertising it as it’s own even though it was on xbox so i’d like to see how microsoft advertise this because if they make out to your average joe that the xbox is the proper full game it is bound to effect peoples decisions. It just depends how well it is marketed.

    25. Idiots:

      The comments are 1 sided, why not buying the version with the dlc’s? maybe im wrong its just don’t make any sense to buy the ps3 version unless you only have a ps3.

    26. Guz:

      First thing’s first, there is no way the 360 will beat ps3 in 2008. I repeat, no friggin’ way!

      Oh no!!! Two extra missions on a game, sony is so scared! By the way I was being sarcastic…

    27. Tonton:

      The download content is only free if you pre-order the game apparently, sorry to those people who think so.
      And to those who think the Xbox 360 is cheaper than the PS3 think again. Well unless you don’t want a gold membership to live than it is true, but apparently everybody has one since the 360 will be about useless without it:
      PS3 40 GB = 399$

      Xbox 360 Premium = 350$ + Live 50$ yearly = 400 $ minimum

    28. bigfella:

      I wonder what the Sony fanboys would be saying if they had the exclusive content and not the 360?

      This stupid fighting is pointless. They’re both good machines. 360 has some great exclusives currently out, and PS3 has some potentially great exclusives coming out this year (as does the 360). If you guys spent more time actually playing your machines rather than trying to convince yourself and others that your system is better, perhaps this stupid fighting would stop.

      I mean let’s be realistic. Both machines are very powerful. Both have their advantages and disadvantages. Both are going to be successful. Who cares which one sells more? As long as people are enjoying their games, and developers are making money (thus keeping the industry healthy), then honestly, who cares?

    29. ricky:

      this is pure bullshit, cuz the grand theft auto series has been selling way more better on the original playstation consoles, so how can microshit sell better with this game going on, i don’t think 360 fanboys will want it, cuz they know that the ps3 version is the must have, cuz it was the successor to rockstar, and ps3 really deserves it, so basically the ps3 version will sell like crazy then.

    30. jaime:

      bigfella:
      “They’re both good machines”
      im sorry you didnt hear about all the xbox 360 hardware dying

      “Both are going to be successful”
      microsoft sold 7 millions xbox 360 last year, 3 millions less than the year before, and the last year they have halo 3, bioshock, etc
      how many xbox 360 will sell this year without any “good” exclusive games… i bet they wont pass the 5 million

    31. Xbox-Eddie:

      I think if I didnt already have an Xbox and I wanted GTA IV, I’d be inclined to go for the PS3 since you can get the 40Gb for the same price as an Elite these days.The Xbox has had a lot of bad publicity with machines breaking down. How many ads do you see these days for ‘Xbox 360 repair’ or ‘Xbox 360 ring of death’? If gamers are such a savvy bunch how is it they are still selling so many!??

    32. CHAOTIC-:

      no it won’t

    33. OMEN:

      san andreas wont be on 360,cuz of the DVD;thats for shore

    34. Mike:

      I was one of the most anti xbox people you could meet until I actually played on LIVE. It’s just one of those things you will love to hate until you actually experience it. GTA4 has got a massive multiplayer side to it which should also favour the use of headsets which all 360 owners get for free.

    35. Blake:

      what about the gamecube?

    36. I own both:

      You all can eat a big fat one.

    37. Tevez:

      i own both consoles so im definately not biased to either, but the way i see it, if you really are a true GTA fan you would want to get the most content you could…. it makes sense. it is the EXACT same game on both consoles, none will be better than the other they will be the same… except the 360 one has more content than the ps3…. it might not be a lot of content, but on the other hand it might be, who knows until it is out.
      therefore if you weigh it all up, it is the exact same game but one has a little more than the other… you are telling me you would rather get the one without? anyone who has both consoles and gets the ps3 version must be mad!

      i will get flamed now, but im just saying how i feel as a GTA fan.

    38. Axileas:

      Xbox 360 totally owns the ps3.. worldwide ps3 owners cant even play ps2 games on their 40gb model (which most of all got, since the other models are not selling anymore in europe etc) so all you people saying we got ps2 games blalb.. wow.. cool.really? no.. we got over 400 xbox originals games in which many are due to be able to be downloadable from xbox live.. i already downloaded 3 games from live this week:D we can play all the good old fashion cult games why you guys talk about them,, but cant play them:P haha.. and we got over 300 movies, tv shows etc to download and rent.. you got..hm.. 0? haha! And i rather pay for live than have ps3 live, my friend has it and it SUUUUCKS!!!!! .. and most of the players ar non english talking japanese lol… good gaming guys.. wait? gaming? what are you guys playing? u dont have any games yet? HAHA… ANd for your record guys;) we get, fallout3, mass effect 2,, FABLE2 wich is the ps3 killer of all time, alan wake(which fists all the ps3 games)nearly 200 arcade games.. do u guys even have msn on ur ps3?? haha no lol… wait can u listen to music while playing on ur ps3? hm ..no.. lol thats fucked up, i thought ps3 was the most modern media machine ever hm.. haha.. can u caht with ur friends while playing? hm no… if its ever gonna be fixed well guys.. it was 1.5 years too late.. and fix the DAMN DUOLSHOCK ALREADY,, stop playing on ur dead fish controllers!!!.. damn sony money horny company, release ur console when its finished!! .. // xbox360 is the shit:)

    39. TR0J4N:

      Pissy!!… feel better now Axileas that u’ve blown off a little steam? you sound like a 8yo bitch. wtf’s with all that gimmicky crap anyway? msn..? why the hell? how gay is that? n why would u wanna listen to music over the top of your game? thats a stupid as playing with a mp3 player in ur ears, whats the point? i’m sick of hearing ppl whinge all the time about which ones better, I just really don’t care.

    40. heavy:

      Xbox live will win the next gen war bitches xbox usa ps3 the other guys which side you on go play final fantasy ill be shoving grenades down peoples throats on halo3 bitches

    41. OMEN:

      LOL you M$ fan boys gits make me laugh.
      i got a 360 and a ps3,but i now the ps3 is better’anybody that has both of the system know the ps3 is the best….
      little cunts read a book.
      ps3 has more games and u all know it.
      ps3 will get ace combat 7-8-9-10 exclusive.
      gta:san andreas wont go in 360’s dvd,too small.
      ps3 has more games,just shut up if u do not own both of the systems.
      GOW and bioshock looks better on my PC.
      gaylo is not all that,i think BF 1942 is better.

    42. ganryu:

      Since GTA4 will be multiplayer, the draw for me would be to buy it for 360, as xboxlive is far superior to the sony network facility and this will provide a stable platform from which I will play.

    43. adam:

      i think it will b a huge hit it will sell so good with the xbox 360 u should think about puttin it in a pack, im getting a xbox 360 4 my birthday june 13

    44. derek:

      well omen is the biggest ditryest cuntttt in the world she sucks ass,xbox is so much better jk he/she is not a cunt shes cool

    45. derek:

      imv

    46. dont matter:

      the game was supposed to have more missions gun and a bigger map but the xbox 360 dvd discs can only have 15 gb’s and the ps3 blu-ray discs can carry up to 50 gbs, i think they should have made a seperate version for each console

    47. asssaassas:

      yo OMEN i got 360 ps3 and wii and i think ps3 way better then both put together and if u already have a ps3 and u want another system dont get 360 its the same thing but with less features and cost money for online get wii instead

    48. Siiiiimon:

      Xbox 360 is much better, i have both consols and always rent before i buy games. All of the sports games suck on the ps3 and take way too long to load. The PS3 online is retarded, Xbox live is much better which is why i am definately buying GTAIV on the xbox 360 the experience will be much better.
      As for the comment earlier listening to music while playing a game is a good thing with certain games, u wouldnt do it with gtaIV no, but you would with sports games etc. At the end of the day the PS3 hasnt showed me anything the Xbox hasn’t already, and most of its exclusives look rubbish.

    49. Al:

      about 80% of the comments here are ps3 fanboyism, so mine will be the other 20. i know one person with a ps3, and it is not worth the money… i want a game system for games not movies. besides more content the better, more 360 owners the better the game will sell. wii outsold the 360 and ps3 last year, but still the 360 outsold the ps3. so quit being a bunch of complain bitches, go do something useful with ur machine and smash it! HAHAHA, oh yeah and burn the games that you dont have:P

    50. David:

      Wow seriously you people can’t spell for shit. You would have to be effing blind to not see that the graphics of ANY game released in the last year are BETTER on the 360 than the PS3. I have both systems and have rented numerous recent titles for both and the 360 without a doubt looks better. Maybe if you have a shitty tv it’s different but with a 1080p TV xbox wins. I was a PS fan but shit Sony needs to figure this damn box out so that it can surpass the xbox as everyone claims it can. And for you IDIOTS who think there are better games on the PS3, what wtf are you smoking. Sure in the next year there will be a few good titles, but how many will they be behind? You know the games, you can add, you figure it out. BR is far from being the standard and probably never will because someone will come out with something better. I’m rooting for Sony because shit I have a PS3 and I want my money’s worth. But I’ve spoken with LOTS of people who have BOTH systems and they ALL say the SAME DAMN THING! They rarely play their PS3 because the games aren’t here yet and XBL is FAR superior. Maybe if you’re not a serious online gamer Sony’s online service is fine, but if you are a competitive games, it’s worth paying $50 for. If you can’t afford $4 a month for it, maybe you should be using the money to feed your family or something cuz it’s pennies.

    51. Matt:

      well David….your a dumbass…yes some people on here can spell….but who cares, everyone makes mistakes….and no the graphics arent better on the 360…the ps3 has a RSX chip which makes the ps3 graphics better….first xbox360 had 1080i…..they doubted that anyone can get any higher….well guess what sony did…they reached 1080p…now 360 has it now…but not really, ps3 has 1.3 1080p and 360 has 1.2 1080p….but it doesnt really matter the graphics dont really look that much different….next sony has released a couple good games….but remember sony is one year newer, so give it some time….when 360 came out, they didnt really have anything either….sony has a LOT of games actually, but they didnt even make them yet…they already have the plans for the games but they havent even touched those yet….ps3 will pass 360 up really fast pretty soon…they wont be behind at all….and you cant get better than blu ray…..right now it bluray discs can store up to 54 gb!! and 360 with DVD 9 can only store up to 8.5 gb…thats sad….when GTA IV comes out it will be on 1 disc on the ps3….and 2 discs on the 360….if i owned the 360 i would be sooo pissed….360 is the now, ps3 is the future….and paying 500 dollars for the ps3 is worth it…remeber that bluray players cost up to 1000 dollars….they took that risk for the buyers….and what is wrong with free internet??…why the fuck would i want to pay 50 dollars just to go online when i already have a fucken router and paying DSL everymonth??…your smoking dog shit….there is no difference from xbox live and Playstation Network……if some one offered you a free McClaren F1, would you take it like everyone in the whole world or would you say “no, i too of a hardcore driver, so im going to buy it myself (like 300,000 dollars for that car) any one in their right mind would choose free stuff….why make things harder….microsoft is fucking stupid, nerdy, dont know this years technology, selfish, and MONEY DRIVEN!!….if i saw bill gates, i would twist his neck….i would go to jail, but its worth it…it wouldnt matter if he was dead..because Mac is the leader of the compters….sony is the leader of technology…..this goes for all xbox fans out there…..dont even try to say ps3 sucks….because there is no reason why it is…if you can name ONE FUCKIN REASON why the ps3 is worse then bless you….its an impossible question to answer….go to yahoo answers and see how many complaints there are about the xbox 360 in there…..go to youtube….there are millions of videos telling how the ps3 is better…and only about 30 telling why the 360 it better…the ps3 ones go up to 25 mins long….xbox 360 ones are 1 min long and have gay songs in the background……dont even try to prove me wrong….i can kick you ass and i am a really good debater….so you xbox fans can go to hell….the xboxs fans that switched to ps3 fans….good job….you will see you made a REALLY good choice…i am not a ps3 fanboy, but im starting to turn in to one by doing this stuff so many times…im just telling facts..

    52. David:

      LOL A dumbass would think that what I said about the graphics was wrong. It was only VERY recent that Sony finally has some games that are close to the graphics of the xbox. I have no doubt sony will surpass the xbox this year, however at the moment it’s all future tense. If you want to play games NOW and not in a year, get an xbox. If you can wait, PS is the better choice. I never mentioned the chips and BTW RSX is NOT faster. Maybe you you should do some technically research or talk to a programmer who has programmed for BOTH systems. And you’re right about the reliability of the xbox although they have gotten better. I got a warranty and if it breaks then I get a new one which is fine by me. Maybe I’ll break it towards the end of my warranty and get a new one lol. But I do love the PS for what it is. Both systems are great, neither is perfect yet. So keep your cool and be satisfied that we agree on how awesome the PS will be this year.

    53. daz:

      gta 4 will have online play so yes xbox360 is the best version, everone knows how bad ps3 online gaming is.
      must say nice blue ray player in the ps3 great for watching movies? but xbox wins for games

    54. Ivan_PSP:

      GTA IV is Microsoft only hope OMG they suck Microsoft that is. They got nothing new well just 5 exclusives compare to Sony’s 100+ exclusives. GTA IV has more fan on PlayStation systems so i highly doubt is gonna help Microsoft in any way. This game will fry every Xbox 360 with Red Light of death.

    55. David:

      Thank you daz. I’m glad I’m not the only one who sees it. Again I have both systems and I like both equally but for different reasons. Basically my PS is a blu ray player, although I will be getting GT5 on it and probably a few others. I love racing games and let’s face it there are many more out for the xbox and they look way better. I don’t like the fact that the xbox is noisy. It bugged me at first but I rarely notice it unless I try and watch a movie on it. Thankfully I have my whisper quiet playstation which plays 1080p movies so it’s no biggie. As for the unreliability that Sony fans always throw out, I have a warranty from Best Buy which will cover it. If it lasts 3 years i’ll be happy. The next xbox will probably come out in 3-5 years anyway. And the game has nothing to do with frying the xbox, it’s when people who have the OLD 360 and NO life will play for 12 hours straight and end up effed. I’ve left mine on for days at a time to test it and it’s barely warm. In fact it’s cooler than the PS. In FACT, the sides and top felt COLD, and it was running a game 3 days straight (no I wasn’t playing it for 3 days straight). My roommate has done the same and has had no problems with his. How many bought a PS3 without a warranty? So paying for it wasn’t a deal breaker in my book. I am curious how many people who have BOTH systems like the PS3 controller over the Xbox. My hands tend to get more tired with the xbox controller. BTW IVAN_PSP, there are NOT 100+ exclusive games. Seriously people if you want to talk trash about the PS, at least get your facts straight. Yes there are a few coming out this year but there are not even 100 games out for the PS.

    56. Matt:

      ok david think……there are so many games coming out for ps3 that no one knows about…..sony has 300+ games stored up….xbox has like a couple exclusives….300!!..wow…..and also it is taking long for the game makers to get a grip on such advanced technology….they have to make the games differently know because the technology is better….just wait until they figure out how to make the games better…360 will be so far behind…and the 360 is sooo noisy….it vibrates my whole room….jesus christ….instead of buying 1000 dollar heat, vibrating, massaging chairs, buy a 360…..if i was a little kid and my parents wouldnt let me play xbox 360 in the middle of the night, and i turned it on while my parents are sleep…..the 360 would wake them up…..and why buy a warrenty for the ps3…..only 0.2% problems issued….and xbox 360 has a 33.3% failure rate…wow..thats sad for a next gen system….there are still problems with the so called “new” 360……and why bother making a new xbox when the 360 is a complete failure……if a new xbox is made,… the sales arent going to be high…trust me….ps3 is supposed to last up to 7-10 years….because it has so advanced tech in it….and by the time 10 years is over….new tech will be made….and if a new xbox is made, it still will have worse tech in it than sony…bc ps4 will be newer…..and it might sound boring to have the ps3 for 10 years….but with new updates every month, it wont be boring…bc sony adds on new features like “Home”…..that feature will destroy xbox live……and guess what, home will be free…..and sony will make there money off of advertisements in there…but the advertisements will be shown casually…unlike xbox live….so sony will make alot of money from that….and then theres a possibility that sony will make xbox live free….and once its free all those 360 fans have to take back everything they said about “free” online….yeah, the 360 actually does over heat……if the 360 is left on too long, some parts inside could melt and drip on the mother board…then it successfully short circuits itself and breaks down……also the ps3 can get warm..but its not overheating…..the ps3 can actually be left on for 3 days straight….and not overheat…..the external coolers in the stores for the ps3 make everthing worse..so dont buy those…and yes the 360 controllers suck ass….even if they copied off sony and nintendo…and david, is it ok if i can have your PSN Name?…….and i have done my research….here are 1/23 of the research ive found::

      http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=An9Zsx5gHydy2b7lQWseUnojzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20080110103246AAZnlwt (look for the huge paragraph….the one typed by Chick Magnet)

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwGjnghUybg

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg0bJQHqOac

      that should set things straight david….i know i am probably wrong about some stuff, but there is no way that the ps3 is worse…no way at all…you are just standing up for microsoft…im standing up for sony but im at least giving real facts and the truth….i like 360, but ps3 is better…or at least cant be worse

    57. David:

      Matt it’s obvious you’re mind is made up and even if you are wrong you don’t care. I NEVER said xbox is better than PS. I said they are both good for their own reasons and neither is perfect. If you think you can honestly say that right now the games on the shelf for playstation haver better graphics than xbox you’re lying to yourself. Have you rented the same games for both systems to compare? Have you read the reviews on official sites with pictures? and videos? They all say the same thing. The graphics are better on xbox. Now of course it comes at a price because maybe your xbox will freeze up or die. However, I’d rather have the games and graphics and buy a $40 warranty than have a game system with crappy games. You’re right. There are many games that will come out, but don’t say there will be 300+ as if you’re a programmer for sony and have the inside scoop. Why are you so confidant that MS won’t also put out 300+ games with equal graphics? It has been said that Sony is more powerful, but show me the money! BTW if Sony hasn’t put out another game system in less than 10 years they are retarded. Technology changes faster than you can bat an eye and in five years 1080p will probably be old like DVD is quickly becoming. I love my PS3. I love my xbox 360. Together they keep me entertained. Sony doesn’t have the games, MS doesn’t have the BD. I admit that Microsoft is pretty effing stupid for not making a gaming system that is reliable, and choking Bill would seem logical. But Sony is stupid for putting out games with sucky graphics. They should have put a chip in the system that would be easier to program games for so that the programmers wouldn’t have to cut corners. If I were to have to decide between the two systems I wouldn’t be able to because they are equal in my mind for different reasons. Neither is superior 100%. I’m being unbiased about it which many people who discuss this sony vs. ms issue are NOT. They are hell bent on their opinion and don’t give a shit about what other people say. I agree with most of what you said, but it’s like you’re ignoring the FACT that right NOW Sony’s games are sub-par graphic wise. Let’s leave it at that. I won’t respond to you any more. It’s a waste of time to keep arguing the same points because I know you’ll probably come back and make some argument about how Sony’s games are better when they’re not, or how there are 300+ games coming out over the next 50 years as if you can predict the future for gaming when you know damn well it can change overnight.

    58. Matt:

      ok you know what………every one shut up…..the both consoles are almost the same…except 360 has alot of problems…360 has alot of games…but halo 3 wasnt all that great….i finished that in one day….and my friend was so excited in school that as soon he got home…halo 3 would be there and he could play it…and he was so excited he looked like he was shitting in his pants…..my friend is retarded and obsessed…anyway..360 has DVD 9 - 8.5 gb….thats why the games are so short and not worth the money…seriously id rather pay 60 dollars for a LOOONNG game that last weeks and are actually a challenge…like ps3…..Gears i beat in 1 day too….christ…there good but short….the graphics are basically even…so whatever..you can play music in the background….but im not paying 300 dollars+ for just that….besides when you play call of duty 4…you have to use like 3 of your senses to win….if theres music in the background, i cant here someone sneeking up on me and i get killed….its good for racing games though…and besides ps3 already has that ability…but has not been enabled…and ps3 version update 2.40 will have in-game messaging….and ps3 has like no problems at all…it might get warm, but it doenst break….and i dont have to have a FREE repair…not….takes me 100 dollars to ship the damn thing out to the company….ps3 has blu ray…the future dvds…holds around 54 gb…which means more long games that are worth paying for….also almost every company is switching to blu ray…Disney etc…..HD is soo outdated…ps3 has more abilities than 360 by a long shot….ps3 gets system updates every month….and sony just keeps on adding and giving….and the price is just stupid to fight over….360 is cheap because not every one comes with a hard drive….it doesnt come with high definition dvd player…thats and extra 100 dollars and it only has 30 gb discs……who cares about headsets…just buy one like a man like you pay for xbox live…ps3 supports like all bluetooth headsets…it also supports usb headsets….to tell you the truth..i got a ps3 headset for free…i bought one for my razr phone a long time ago…and realized i can use it for my ps3….ps3 supports keyboards…mouses…and printers too….ps3 has free internet….has a internet browser…ps3 already has a wireless thing in there….you dont have to pay an extra 100 dollars again just to have wireless…ps3 supports wired internet too….ps3 has remote play…did i mention that sony has a amazing handheld?…that is a million times better that ds and wii..and you can go to out of state and stream things of your ps3…also ps3 has folding home…..sony cares about people with diseases…….so help donate your computer power…so when doctors find a cure for a vital disease….sony was part of it…nintendo is stupid….they dont even focus on there own system….only on dumbass Mario…microgay is money driven and selfish…..ps3 had BD live…where you pop in a blu ray movie and the ps3 goes online and searches for extra downloadable content for that very disc…and possibly free……ps3 will have home….suck that 360…..ps3 has over 30 fucking thousand classic and greatest his games form ps2….and o my god…360 can play 400 classics…..i dont even remeber classics on the xbox……most of the games on there were form ps2…..sony also can play ps1 classics too…you can also download themes for your ps3….the ps3 has XMB will kills teh stupid ass dashboard on 360….you have to admit the XMB is better….say what you want…anyone in there right mind would think so…..on ps3, everything is organized well…and there is so much more……xbox 360 has cool things and so does sony….sony makes alot more things that nintendo and microsoft combined…..and every sony product is amazing….they know how to make products because they atleast double check what they make…i understand companies make betas of softwares and stuff….but buying a 360 for like 300-400 dollars and its all buggy…wow…if i was bill gates…i would hide under my bed…because of embarrasement……and in japan….the ps3 has more things in the US…so you dont know anything….and no..when im online on ps3…i havent heard one person speak japanese….you guys are all retards…..im listing everthing i know….and one of you…david the asshole…comes around and acts like a smart ass…and has to list everything professionally….you always ruin david….david, i sometimes exaggerate….like the 300+ games for ps3….but you take it so seriously like you are trying to act like a smart ass and trying to stand up for microgay…..and they are gay….every damn windows they make is soo damn shitty….mac is the way to go…everyone knows…if anyone says windows is better…you are like 2 year olds…..you might say that i am acting like a 2 year old…maybe i am acting like one, but atleast im telling facts and im not telling them like Axileas did…..there you go….360 and ps3 compared…both are not the same but there next gen…ps3 is more next gen..whatever…..all i can say is that ….360 cannot be better in any way….

    59. David:

      I would hope Mac is better. They fucking charge enough! BTW the 360 isn’t cheap. It costs about the same as a PS3. Anyway if you don’t have either system, get the PS3 because of potential. If you have the 360, save your money because most games come out on both systems anyway. Matt name a game that is longer than 10 hours on the ps3 that isnt’ the same on the xbox.

    60. matt:

      ok….GTA IV…not an exclusive..but it doesnt have to be put on 2 discs…..but its because of small memory…..but still, its a long game……that probably wasnt a good example…..but im just spitballin here…i dont buy many games because i spent my money on other things…so dont really know….rfom was long to me…..so was genji….those probably arent long…..but i know that sony will make games that are long in the future……but it does suck that the 360 has less memory on the discs…..360 cant last with warhawk, just because of big maps……and also the bonus content for gta IV for 360 is a stupid idea….not everyone has a hard drive for their 360…….and also 360 fanboys are retarded…because if it was sony or the ps3 that got the bonus content, i wouldn’t care….or brag about it….i probably wouldn’t buy or download it…..sony doesnt need bonus content for games on their system and not on the 360 to feel good and better of themselves….sony already knows best on how fix the problem

    61. matt:

      and david the second last paragraph i typed wasnt about u, i typed that for everyone…..

    62. David:

      I agree. I couldn’t give a rats ass about the xtra content. There’s enough to do in the real game I’m not worried.

    63. Matt:

      well dave, about the graphics……the reason why the graphics on 360 for multiplatform games is because they were made on 360 first….and like i said its easier to develop on the 360…ps3 has better technology so its hard to get it right when game developers have been developing games a different way for like 8 years straight…..also right now Drakes Fortune has the best graphics on the market……the ps3 is doing 10 times better in Japan….(no der..lol)…also the ps3 out sold 360 in 2007…..and january 2008……..and i wouldn’t buy a 360 now….because ps3 will have more games ( 150 exclusives confirmed) and 360 is 1 year ahead…wow……sony is not playing around at all……once sony is totally stopped with ps2…..sony is gona take out the big guns…..M$ has big guns, but with no ammo

    64. wii sucks:

      lol i have read these arguments and the xbox 360 is great for gta IV i also have a ps2 and it was easy to play gta games but you look at sony and microsoft and which is the bigger brand…microsoft so as they make more better computers there ideas on the xbox will expand and sony will have to consentrate on other gadgets like cameras,phones and the psp.lets bring that in this conversation coz they could make a new gta game on it…do you lot agree.

    65. matt:

      ok..we will see dumbass…..360 will fall alot this year

    66. Matt:

      well guess what david?, i have the answer to this article….the answer is no…….why would gta4 help 360 when it is a multiplatform, it has ps2 quality graphics(both systems), no one cares about extra content, on 360 they had to shrink the map of the game, and the fact that gta 4 SUCKS BALLS!….lol…..seriously id rather play gta 3 gamewise

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