PS3 gets Xbox style RRoD - Error 80010514 Code of Death
By Dave Parrack
The Red Ring of Death has been a thorn in the side of Microsoft and Xbox 360 owners since the problem was discovered. This lead to PS3 owners laughing at their rival console owning friends. However, it seems now that a similar fatal error is being encountered on the Playstation 3.
The problem is known as Error Code 80010514, which as it isn’t near catchy enough, has been renamed the Code Of Death. Dun dun dunnnnnn.
First things first, the problem is rare, much rarer than the Red Ring of Death which has so far affected at least 16% of all the Xbox 360s sold, and that’s a conservative estimate. The Code Of Death on the other hand seems to so far be affecting just a few people who have brought the problem to the attention of the masses on various message boards and forums.
Also, it’s not thought to be a hardware problem, and seems to be a firmware installation issue. This in turn can cause a faulty sector on the internal hard drive.
To paraphrase GameRevolver’s findings on the subject, the Code Of Death will corrupt game disc recognition and execution. DVDs and Blu-ray movies will still normally play fine, but inserting a game disc could bring the error code up.
To help prevent the issue, you can follow some common sense guidelines such as making sure your Internet connection is stable, dusting your PS3 and every game disc often, and follow all the instructions given when installing firmware upgrades or new software.
If you have already suffered the problem, then the first thing you should do, as advised by Sony Support itself, is to do “a simple reset of the system, and restoral of factory settings”.
If that doesn’t help, and it won’t roll back any corrupted firmware updates you may have installed, then you need to contact Sony for a replacement unit instead.
I can just see the Xbox fanboys chomping at the bit to take the piss out of the (up to now) smug PS3 owners who mocked the shoddy workmanship on the Xbox 360 which has ended up costing Microsoft a fortune.
While certainly a problem, this isn’t really in the same league as the Red Ring of Death.
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April 11th, 2008
My PS3 is still tickin so PH-Q u XJOC 360 fans boys. PH-Q you haters. PH-Q u bitch ass fools who say make peace. I am ignorite so PH-Q 2.
April 11th, 2008
only time will tell if it’s the same as the RROD, but the fact remains, $600 for a ps3 with an error is more painful than a $399 360. Given sony’s history of shoddy console workmanship it’s not unthinkable this is going to show up on more and more consoles. The good news is; sony will NEVER give ANY type of percentage or number of consoles affected, and are, even now, denying the existence of the ps3 error, leaving you 360-hating fanboys the ability to perpetually claim the 360’s errors are happening more. it’s truly a shame since ps3 zealouts claim the quality of the console itself will propel one to higher sales ove the other. Looks like the ps3 just lost it’s “quality” card. karma’s a bitch. lmao!
April 11th, 2008
This article is extremely misleading, and even at the end of the article the author says: “While certainly a problem, this isn’t really in the same league as the Red Ring of Death.” and then the above 360 fanboy kevin says “karma’s a bitch” did he not even f’ing read the last line saying this isn’t in the same league ?
A reset of factory settings should fix the issue, I’ve read also in other forums that this can happen when someone installs a firmware from another country accidental, though I haven’t confirmed this.
The point being, there is no karma here, PS3 remains to be a very solid console, I’ve had mine for 6 months now with absolutely no problem and I know a lot of friends who have gone through 2-3 360’s in 6 months. This is not to say I won’t have any problem in the future, it may happen, but don’t compare RRoD to this, just rediculous.
April 11th, 2008
Huh, last I checked the most expensive PS3 was $499 not $600. And considering only a handful of users have experienced this in over a year it’s hardly anywhere in the same league as MS. I don’t know of one single person that owns a 360 who hasn’t had to send it back at least once, myself included. To think that not a single console will break is unreasonable. But Sony keeps defects to under 1% of users. MS has close to 1/3 of their product breaking. PS3 hasn’t lost anything in the quality of build department in my eyes although I’ll never buy any MS product again ever.
April 11th, 2008
No, last time I checked they were 399 not 600
April 11th, 2008
No, last time I checked they were 399 not 600
April 11th, 2008
This is nothing at all mostly fanboys trying to make something outa nothing. And btw it doesnt even have to do with a RROD it has to do with a faulty download from people who have seprate region codes and downloaded there teritory firmware with another regions unit or hdd problems from download. RROD my ass I would say this story is a bunch of BS. PS3 is rock solid its not burning up or anything fact is if you download something wrong when doing firmware on anything there can be problems but its not the system it self.
April 11th, 2008
Kevin,
Let’s stop pretending, shall we? Statements like “looks like the PS3 just lost it’s ‘quality’ card” make you lose credibility.
Ask yourself: how long have gamers been talking about the RRoD? Since a few months after the 360 was released, right? And are people still talking about it? This blog is proof that they are. Now answer honestly: do you REALLY think that people will be complaining about Error Code 8001986496whatever two years from now?
Your post also suggest that you didn’t even bother to read the article since you seem to ignore two facts it presents:
1. That these incidents are EXTREMELY rare.
2. That it is not at all an issue with PS3 hardware or architecture. The error comes from software installation issues, which in turn are sometimes caused by people having an unstable internet connection (usually piggybacking off of the wireless internet the next apartment over is using), or losing power during a firmware update, etc.
What this means (and you should pay close attention to this) is that this very issue can easily affect the 360, and likely has.
As for releasing failure rate figures, where’s Microsoft’s official report on the RRoD, anyways?
I like reading your comments, Kevin. It’s always great to get the perspective a fellow gamer, but you should think about maybe letting your militant anti-Sony bias go, at least a little. At least UNDERSTANDING where other people are coming from, even if you disagree, is the first step to making friends and creating amiable dialogue.
It will also help you post more reasonable, credible comments.
-Arvis
April 11th, 2008
well said Arvis.
April 11th, 2008
arvis - ps3 zealouts have been harping about the rrod since if first showed up after launch. if they can’t take the heat, they shouldn’t have said anything. ESPECIALLY after sony was sued for poor ps2 workmanship. Given sony’s history of dragging their feet to fix problems, yes, it’s quite conceivable it could still be a problem in 2 years. don’t make promises for sony you can’t back up. The “extremely rare” is going to remain your defense for the remainder of this gen simply b/c sony will NOT give affected unit numbers. what is “extremely rare” in numeric value? you are GUESSING it’s a software issue, when other sites say it oould be either software OR hardware since the origin isn’t known thus a resolution isn’t known. the point is; NOTHING new is ever 1. error proof or 2. “future” proof. Now? karma’s back and hitting HARD. well deserved. don’t use a bloggers opinion as fact next time.
April 11th, 2008
arvis - “RROD my ass I would say this story is a bunch of BS. ” - this is the type of fanboy b.s i’m talking about.
April 11th, 2008
Ok, perspective.
RROD = Hardware/manufacturing issue.
PS3 error = Common issue to all devices that are updating/flashing and get the power/connection killed OR are updated with the wrong firmware (including wrong region).
Pull the plug on ANY device whilst you’re flashing it and see what happens. You’re lucky if they ever work again.
Update from the wrong region. Serves you right.
April 11th, 2008
Kevin - well done Sherlock, nothing is perfect.
There is however a huge difference between sub 1% and 15%-33% failure rates.
Most of the ‘harping on’ about RROD has been done by pissed off 360 owners wishing they had bought something more reliable.
Yesterday’s console - accept it…
April 11th, 2008
Kevin - Karma doesn’t work on electronics. However, given that this issue is as infrequent as this article would suggest (And anyone who peruses the PS3 forums on playstation.com, would also know this), it actually is quite reasonable to ‘assume’, that it is in fact an issue with the firmware update. Your claims of other sites knowing this or that…about Sony’s proprietary technology, well, let’s just say it’s a pretty thin argument there.
You claim that people are guessing this, and guessing that…and yet you didn’t even read the entire article and started GUESSING that KARMA must be the culprit. Seems a bit two-faced really. Until Sony comes out with their research into the issue (an issue that has just become known), nobody, who is not directly involved in Sony’s internal affairs has any idea what the actual issue. Only educated guesses.
As for the 360’s RROD…honestly, I see alot more 360 gamers complaining about it than PS3 owners…why would we care? We have a machine that’s at LEAST 16% more reliable. The thing that really gets me, as someone who at one point was really interested in buying a 360, is MS’s real lack of interest in actually SOLVING the problem. Rather, they’d just throw a billion into extended warranties…but still not solving the problem. While you may be perfectly happy with returning your 360 whenever it fails…I just don’t feel that a company as resistant to fixing their product, isn’t really caring about me as a consumer.
I’m sorry that you feel all PS3 owners and Sony fans are deservent of divine retribution/karma, but I think the mystical forces of God or Yahwe or Shiva or Allah are staying out of this console war. LoL.
Morne
April 11th, 2008
AS being a multiple system owner for at least since NES/Sega, I can say I have had most grief with my PS2. Sent it out 3 times, to be told nothing was wrong with it, (I threw it away and bought the new smaller model) but it only lasted 2 years. I know its not supposed to be economically feasible (look at flash mem stick prices any more) does any one miss cartridges? I still have my NES/SNES/Turbo Grafx and can stick a cart in and away I go. NO RED RING/ NO ERROR Code, just 8 or 16 bit fun. Lets face it bash MS or Sony but they buy the lowest bidder on whatever they can. I have a 360 since 05 never have got a red ring, but then again I don’t keep it stuff in a shoebox with no vents. Now my original XBox, that was a different story. I replaced the drive myself and worked great after that. Pick whichever you want but don’t cram it down everyone elses throat.
April 11th, 2008
The PLAYSTATION 3 is not a like Xbox 360 stop your bitching. PS3 has no hardware problem unless u make it happen urself
April 11th, 2008
@ Mornelithe,
Well done. However, no matter how sound your statement is to any sane individual such as myself and 99.99% of the other people around the world that visit this site it will not convince kevin.
kevin is someone with a closed mind. Whenever reason, logic, truth, sound advice, common sense, etc. attempt to enter his ears/eyes doors in his head slam shut, perpetually blocking the aforementioned knowledge from ever reaching the learning centre of the brain.
It’s hopeless to try and talk to the guy, but for me; I enjoyed reading your comment.
April 11th, 2008
yea i enjoy reading their comments too =), anyway i got my ps3 for 1 year and never get a problem with it and it’s still shiny like brand new (its near the filtered fan ever since)..
April 12th, 2008
I have seen this error on 2 friend’s PS3s over the past 4 months. Sony customer support told both of them that they must have taken it apart and will not honor the warranty. Sounds like a standard ‘FU customers!’ response from Sony.
I wonder if they’ll get the same response now this has come to light?
April 12th, 2008
I dont know anyone with a broken ps3 and lots of my friends and work mates have had one a year and used very regular. I dont know anyone who HASN’T had a broken 360 and more people i know have had one.
April 12th, 2008
Partyboy, you’re obviously lying
April 12th, 2008
hmm….
Interesting… Sony got sued for the PS2??? Didnt MS get sued for the 360???
At the end of the day… I dont care which console is the best.. its which console is the best for ME.. all thgis arguement isnt gonna turn 360 fans into PS3 fans or vice-versa…
I want a PS3 because I cant send back a faulty 360 back to MS (because there are no EB or Gamestop near me)… it has no region lock so I can order a game from wherever I want… If I buy a 360 from USA then I would HAVE to buy games from there as well…
I want a PS3 because I cant access LIVE because there are no Xbox LIVE servers in my country… I can play most of the Xbox “exclusives” in the PC.. so why would I buy one??
I could buy the 360 because it has been modded and I can buy the pirated games at less tha n $1 each.. (I still have to buy original PS3 games)
I dont care which console is the best because THE COMPANIES are earning the profits… not me.. I have to pay for them… they dont care how much we argue for them…
But there is something I care about… the Elite owners who are stuffed…. they had to pay for the Elite (which I swear looks NOTHING like the PS3) and now what are they going to do with their HD DVD drives???
Remember.. not all countries have EB and Gamestop and LIVE servers… and not ALL the gamers in the world can afford to pay for online and hardware that becomes obsolete in a coupla years… so… What happens to those who paid more than $100 for a HD DVD drive???
April 12th, 2008
@kevin
did you forget to wash your MS panties today or something?
if you so believe in karma… then you’d better think twice before you go flaming away.
but since you own a 360, maybe you like having shit for luck
April 12th, 2008
I am getting this error. I got it after my ps3 froze during Call of Duty 4. This article says it does not affect blu ray movies but the ps3 freezes during blu ray playback. Like 5 minutes into it. Will play regular dvd and ps2 games no problem, but any ps3 game i’ve tried will freeze. The system won’t recognize the game or blu ray disc until I shut off ps3 and disconnect power chord. The bad thing is there is no 80 gig ps3’s out now so I will hold off taking back to best buy.
There is supposed to be a firmware update on the 15th. I will try this first.
April 12th, 2008
I have a trouble with my system and it something different, it on;y does it on cod4 and dmc4. i can’t play both for no more than 10 - 15 mins and then it shut off the system..i have bought three different cod4 games and each one still does it and alos rented from 2 different places.same w/dmc4. i am trying to get a hold of sony but no luck yet
April 13th, 2008
Wow, look at these PS3 fanboys go!!!!! If you’re so confident about your machine, why are you so offended with what Kevin has to say?
And Partyboy may not be lying, everyone knows that Sony customer support is not very good.
April 13th, 2008
@winner, you do realize your question makes no sense, right?
April 13th, 2008
GTO, it makes perfect sense. Go read it again.
April 13th, 2008
Why frame this story as a conflict between fanboys in the first place?
It’s bad that either console has problems.
Both the original author of this story and all the commentators need to grow up.
It’s shit like this that gives gamers a bad name.
April 14th, 2008
Hey you know what? Xbxo 360 fanboys are actually right. I mean ps3 could break. Ps3 installs could shut the system down. these errors could last for years on other updates. A game could break the machine one day. Ps3 might rape my dog. Ps3 might could cure cancer or might just have really bad over heating problems. Now that word could lets see, oh I know means it hasnt happened yet. Lets talk about real problems that are happening. Gas prices are out of control. People are losing thier homes. Unemployment is up. The war are killing thousands a year, and the 360 is still the biggest piece of shit machine to ever be launched around the globe. Face it 360 sucks. they need to make a wii remote, adapt blueray and make bigger harddrives cause they keep messing up. But with all the upgrades they still cant manufacture a reliable machine. Maybe thier like nike and hire 5 year olds to build them.
April 14th, 2008
Funky J - Are you angry because your husband has your handbag?
April 14th, 2008
@ PH-Q
lol
Children - don’t you know that this site is run by trolls?
April 14th, 2008
Winner: -
Are you angry coz BG’s willy is too small for your loud mouth?
April 14th, 2008
morn - i’m not saying “karma is the culprit”. I’m saying ps3 fanboys shouldn’t have said anything about the 360’s quality when 1. the ps2’s quality was crap and 2. the ps3 is now having hardware/firmware fatal errors on a console sold at $600. do you really see more 360 owners experiencing problems than ps3? noooo…it COULDN’T have something to do with the fact there are waaaaaaaay more 360’s on the market than ps3…right? lmao. you’re really funny. ms has redesigned the board in the 360 to preven further breakdowns. i guess you just missed that part in your series of lies. and you wonder why ps3 fans are hated so much. you all have double standards. it’s NOT okay for the RROD but it WAS okay for sony to force most ps2 owners to buy more than one due to breakdowns and it’s NOW okay the ps3 is having problems all because sony hasn’t said anything. you DO realize sony has NEVER admitted to the ps2 havi9ng problems, even after settling the class action suit. so, you wait for sony to admit the ps3 has problems before you admit it? you ps3 fans are complete and utter jokes.
April 14th, 2008
the stash - if my comments, based in history and FACT, appears “closed minded” to you, it’s simply b/c you haven’t been paying attention to the industry for the last 4 years.
April 14th, 2008
@ kevin, maybe you should just stop now, you’re making yourself look like more of an idiot, perhaps someone with more time and patience will show you how, but I don’t have the time to explain how there are no “FACTS” in your arguement.
April 14th, 2008
Kevin,
Come on, man, are you still doing this?
Look, if you have beef with Sony’s products and have uber brand loyalty to Microsoft, that’s totally fine. But name-calling and grouping together anyone who owns a PS3 into one big category really is what “close-minded” means. You show “close-minded” traits in your attitude towards Sony, refusing to admit that the Playstation 3 has good games and features that any true gamer would enjoy. There are many PS3-fans that do the same to the 360, and I know you’ll agree with me in saying that that is unfair and unreasonable. And you wouldn’t want to be guilty of a double standard, would you?
Look, we as gamers and consumers are forced to form opinions on products based soley on personal experience and what facts we can find in print and on the web. So let me ask you a legitimate question: You seem incensed by hardware problems present in the PS2. Yes, it’s true that the PS2 had some problems related to constant use that could cause a console to break over a few years. Yet, the 360 is showing hardware failures on a massive scale, even for users who do not use it that often. And you don’t seem nearly so angry about it. Why is this?
While I’ll tell you up front that I don’t like your fanboyism, I do like that you at least care enough about gaming to read news and post your opinions. Please just try to tone down the anger and name-calling, because it obscures the points you’re trying to make with your posts.
-Arvis
April 14th, 2008
thanks Arvis, that pretty much sums it up.
April 14th, 2008
Arvis - the ps3 has “good games”. i never said it didn’t. the 360 has GREAT games, as proven by the high review ratings. A “true gamer” goes for a gaming console. the ps3 was not designed as a console first, but a bluray player that also plays games. If the ps3 truly had “features true gamers want”, then they would be outselling the competition. But it’s still in LAST place, even with “120 million loyal ps2 customers” that sony so smuggly liked to tout pre-launch. A “true gamer” will go where the games are. The 360 just hit 1,000 games. The ps3 is at a fraction of that. The “massive scale” of the 360 can’t be compared to the ps2’s breakdown ratio simply because sony REFUSES to give up numbers. They only do this when it makes them look really, really bad. For proof: To this day sony NEVER gave, nor will they give, the sales numbers for the $700 PSX launched in 2003 in japan. why? because the sales were so poor, they pulled it from production. Most ps2 owners know they have had to have more than one ps2 to get it working with any regularity, hence the legal battles for sony. If it was a very low ratio, sony would have said something. But they’re silent. More than likely due to the extremely high ratio of faulty ps2. I’m upset as much as the next guy about the RROD, but this is the FIRST TIME a tricore console was EVER produced. Firsts are always dicey and ESPECIALLY in the tech field. MS at least OWNED UP (something sony has NEVER done) and they get crucified for it by the ps3 zealouts. Accountability is important and valued by consumers. Yet, fanboys hate MS for admitting, correcting, and resolving the problem. Meanwhile sony is even now ignoring the problem that is popping up in enough consoles to cause concern. The prob i have with you ps3 zealouts is you forget what sony has done and is doing, ignoring the facts to hate on Gates on ms. what name calling? regardless of what you think of me, the facts are, the 360 is the better gaming machine, and ANY ps3 fanboys mocking the RROD is a hypocrite. it’s just that simple.
April 14th, 2008
kevin, the startling difference between the well known “rrod” issue and this new 80015..whatever issue is that I can find thousands of videos on youtube of the rrod in action, yet not one single 80015…whatever video.
April 14th, 2008
Gerry - got it! Nothing happens in this world unless “Gerry” sees it. Thanks for clearing that up.
April 14th, 2008
Kevin,
Look, I don’t like fanboy zealots any more than you do, but wouldn’t you say that your posts sound somewhat… “zealous?”
You make a very good point about the 360 being the very first tri-core console. I hadn’t thought about that before, so… cool. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.
Still, don’t you think it would have been better for the consumer (aka you and me) if Microsoft had held off on releasing the 360 until they had all the problems ironed out? But they knowingly shipped faulty hardware. Sony’s problems with the PS2 were all long-term, not something that would show up during short-term beta testing pre-launch. Yet you seem angry at Sony for a problem they didn’t know about, but fine with Microsoft for a problem they DID know about. Why, Kevin?
I enjoy playing games on the 360. Mass Effect rocks more than almost any game on any console right now. But this is an issue worth getting upset over.
I agree that accountability is important. But it is any corporations prerogative to conceal information that would be harmful to their PR. And Microsofts “admission” of high 360 failure rates was an increase in warranty, but no official statement. You don’t expect Microsoft to release official failure rate percentages for the 360, do you? Neither do I. And they won’t unless forced to by a court mandate. Now, do you expect Sony to behave any differently?
One last point: terms like “good” and “great” are entirely subjective, so using them in a debate/discussion won’t get you anywhere. Although it is really cool that you found so many games on your preferred console that you enjoy so much. Rock on, man!
-Arvis
April 14th, 2008
jeez kevin, you hate without merit, maybe I should have replaced all of the “I’s” in my post with the word anyone. Would that help you understand that I was merely pointing out that you comparisons are flawed?
April 14th, 2008
Arvis - you make sweeping accusations that ms shipped the 360 KNOWING the problem was intact. The fact is; there is no evidence of this. Sony was notified of dde and dre errors in the ps2 for many months with them denying anything was wrong. In fact they STILL refuse to acknowledge the OBVIOUS problem. If MS has not released any info on the ratios, as you suggest, then the “15%” that’s being thrown is invalid. yes, they increased the warranties, ate the shipping charges and added more customer support call centers in Texas and India. The point is; they ARE addressing the issue while sony IGNORES their issues. Meanwhile ms is the bad guys? wth… i agree with the “good” and “great” opinion. but the reality is the reviews consistently has the 360’s library as higher quality based on scores. The very high attach ratios of 360 games vs. ps3 games also underscore the high quality and playability of the 360 games. the only point that i was making is ps3 fanboys shouldn’t have talked so much trash with sony’s history of poor quality. paybacks a bitch.
April 14th, 2008
Kevin,
Again: we (meaning me, you, and everyone else who is a gamer) are forced to make opinions based on personal experience and information we get from friends and media (print, internet, tv, etc). My one 360 broke after 8 months. My PS2 didn’t crap out until 5 years after I bought it.
From my experience, Sony does not ignore their “issues.” The only time I ever had to called Sony CS was to get my wireless router to work with the PS3, and they stayed on the phone with me all night troubleshooting everything. (For the record, the problem was with my router, not the console).
There are plenty of testimonials on the internet of Sony shipping replacement consoles to the few PS3 owners who have had problems.
Also, in my own experience, it took Microsoft a full four weeks (one whole month) to get my RRoDed 360 and ship me a refurb. Again, not saying this everyone’s experience, just mine. You clearly have had a very different experience, but could you at least acknowledge that your viewpoint is not/will not be the viewpoint of other people who have had different experiences from yourself?
You are correct about the attach ratio and high critic rating of 360 games. The console has a massive and loyal user base, according to the information found on the internet. Further information found on the internet suggests that Microsoft was aware of RRoD problem before they shipped to console to retail.
*shrugs*
I’m sorry that Sony fanboys turned you so far away from the PS3. It has plenty to offer a gamer like you, and it stinks that you’re missing out.
Of course, if you’re like me, then you probably don’t even have time or money to play all the games you want to play anyways!
-Arvis
April 14th, 2008
arvis - if you only had one ps2 for 5 years, you are truly lucky. If sony didn’t ignore the issues they never would have ended up in court. But they did. why? because THEY IGNORED THE ISSUES. Idk how you can say the 360 has a massive userbase when the xbox peeked at, what, around 25 million, give or take, versus the “120 million loyal ps2 users” sony touted. If consoles were bought on loyalty, the ps3 would be trouncing the competition, but they’re not. Information on the ‘net is not always credible. You know this. for the record; SONY turned me away from the ps3…the fanboys are just a reminder i made the right decision. why is sony lauded for replacing consoles for free while ms is crucified for it? Look, it’s still too early to tell if the ps3 error is going to be long term issue, but you have to admit, the karma is hilarious on sooooo many levels.
April 14th, 2008
Who is BG?
April 14th, 2008
Hey Gerry and the pacemakers, you said you couldn’t find a video of it on Youtube? I just went there and searched for ‘PS3 error’ and lo and behold, this was first on the list.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKWlMT8rsEo
April 14th, 2008
@winner, one video of the ps3 error pales in comparison to the results of “rrod” searched on youtube, the point is, if this 80010514 is to be like the rrod, then wouldn’t there be more evidence?
April 14th, 2008
There are more than just one video on Youtube. And anyway, Gerry’s post said that he couldn’t find any, I was just calling his bullshit.
April 15th, 2008
the stash - if you remember, only a very small percentage of rrod were reported in the beginning. as more consoles were sold, more reports came in. wait for it; if sony don’t fix it, more reports will come in as sales continue.
April 15th, 2008
The thing I love with Sony numbers that get throw around every month is the amount of PS3’s sold. I would love to know how many of them are bought as Blu Ray Players and nothing more beside that. There is a reason why there PS3 is priced like it is. To Sell the PS3. Let face it their top off the line blue ray player doesn’t have a cell processor it in but it goes for $1000. They are doing this to artificialy make there game division look like they are getting a huge base to bring on more game developers. In the mean time as the sell all there waaaaaaay over priced Blu Ray players they are trying to shore up the loss in from a PS3 sale. Hey PS3 fans boys, there is another place that is more then happy to have you donate money to them. Its called your local catholic church. At least you get after life insurance out of it. 360 4ever
April 17th, 2008
Actually, this is the first time I’ve heard of this error code…
May 12th, 2008
LOL all you MS fans. I sent my 360 back only to get the same RROD box back in the same condition. I think MS dont care about there customers all they want is a quick buck from morons. Every MS item I own sucks, look at there operating systems, they break too hmm the only thing MS can do good is create blue screens of death, red rings of death etc… So how is MS products so much better then Sonies please explain!!! I think it should be upto the person owning the console to judge what he or she likes not for other people to rant and rave how much better a system is than the other. I have both systems, and I have to say I like both. both systems have there ups and downs and it is about equal but the only edge PS3 has is the blu-ray which is the future, HD is a has been.
May 12th, 2008
lol were in the world Ray do you get the $1000 from, last that I knew it was $399. Oh by the way the ps3 does have a cell processor and yeah 360 only has 3 processors and ps3 has 8. I had a 360 and when I play games on the ps3, why do they run smoother with less load times than the 360 and look a hell of a lot better and more realistic. I used to have COD4 for 360 now I have it for ps3 and the colors and shaders are way better, more life like I would say. Sony’s Blu ray player is the fastest on the market right now and other blu ray player companies are complaining about it, waaaaaaa to them. I think all you 360 fan boys out there are too young to know what microsoft is all about. Why dont ya get Wi-Fi, bluetooth, etc.. built right into the xbox 360’s, oh I know because microsoft wants more money, you have to buy all those accessories which puts xbox 360’s price well above the Ps3. Ps3 is a more reliable design which means you wont have to worry about getting a RROD(red ring of death) right outa the box. Face it microsoft have warped all your little feeble minds thinking it is better just because it has microsoft on it, all they want is your little brain washed money. Ps3 4ever…..
May 13th, 2008
Hey Aftershock,
1st I didn’t say the ps3 was $1000 I said their top of the line Bluplayer was and how could it be without a cell processor? 2nd enjoy you COD on PS3 maybe in a few months you might have enough friends to host a game. Maybe they will have HOME working by then, or maybe that will be PS4.
May 14th, 2008
ps3 sux coz it cant support piracy games…
I rather spend my $$$ on console…not game…
and yes, I can rent it but why rent when i can own it(copied games)??
tat’s why I go for xbox360 coz it’s modded n i still can play online games with modded console without being banned.
yeah,imo,it’s juz not worth it!
June 30th, 2008
Aftershock- the ps3 has ONE core processor and 8 “virtual” processors (SPE). the 360 has 3 core processors. this is why sony does not market the ps3 as a multicore console.
October 8th, 2008
Fanboy wars aside…
Are there any numbers out there for how much the Red Ring ended up costing Microsoft? I am not trying to sarcastic, or condescending in any way. I know when the console released it was fairly common, and they have since fixed the issue… but I am just curious because I have never seen any numbers on it.