Xbox 360 clear winner over PS3, Wii in terms of quality games
While consoles such as the PS3 may appear to have a higher concentration of good games, knowledgeable gamers may also consider the total number of quality games currently available for each console before buying. It seems that on this score, the Xbox beats the PS3 and Wii quite convincingly.
According to GameStats, whose Game Stats Score(GSS) is supposed to use all ratings online and print then average them, the XBox 360 is winning the current console race in quality, while the PS2 is basking in the success of it’s 7 year plus stamina:
Games rated 9.0 or above:
Console Games Exclusive
PS3 – 7 – 2
360 – 13 – 3
Wii – 6 – 4
PS2 – 41 – 14+
DS – 5 – All
PSP – 4 – All
Rated 8.0 or above:
PS3 – 52
360 – 91
Wii – 29
PS2 – 302
DS – 65
PSP – 79
Dates Available:
Console – Date – Years
PS3 – Nov, 2006 – 1.5
Wii – Nov, 2006 – 1.5
360 – Nov, 2005 – 2.5
PS2 – Oct, 2000 – 7.5
DS – Nov, 2004 – 3.5
PSP – Mar, 2005 – 3
Current MSRP:
PS3 – $399
360 – $280-$450
Wii – $250+
PS2 – $130
DS – $130
PSP – $170
By these numbers, the Xbox 360 seems to be leading the next-gen home console race in quality games, including genres other than shooting such as RPG, Action, Adventure, Action Adventure, Music, Racing, Sports, Strategy, and Flight.
A large part of this lead can be accredited to the year long head start the 360 has had over it’s competitor’s, but the bottom line reads the same, Microsoft currently has many more quality games available now than the competition, and may keep this lead in the future.
The PS3 could have trumped Microsoft’s lead if they had just retained native backwards compatibility.
As it is, the PS2 still dominates in overall quality games due to it’s being on the market for over 7 years, and it is still selling well.
If the PS3, 360, or Wii last as long in the future, they all have a good chance of repeating it’s success.
While this may or may not result in more console sales (it doesn’t seem to be a good sign so far, considering the Wii’s steady pace of selling out), gamers will also look for their favourites before buying, many of which may be exclusive to a console.
Note: For those who doubt the GSS due to gamer ratings, they can cross check any GSS by comparing the difference between not only gamer and press ratings, but also each publication or site’s reviews.
Hope for PS3 owners and others may come in the future, considering yet to be released titles.
Using GameStats GPM, or Game Popularity Metric, the following future release tallies were taken for each console game burning the gauge at 80% or above:
Games rated 80% or above expected in the future:
PS3 – 24
360 – 28
Wii – 5
PS2 – 0
DS – 2
PSP – 1
Note 1: the GPM does not represent quality, but does “express buzz, desire to play the game, awareness, and post-release activity” based upon IGN’s database. That is, not accurate, but representative of 1 site’s traffic (est. 18 million).
Note 2: Wii will continue to sell well regardless of whether or not it has more total (#) quality titles than other consoles due to it’s low price, exclusive games, casual gamer popularity, kid friendliness persona (regardless of Manhunt 2, No More Heroes, RE4, and other titles), ease of use, and even Wii Fit. Obese people in America and other countries will see to it that WiiF sells well. The WiiF board will cross over into other titles, though none will compare the with the WiiF series in sales.
Note 3: PS3 will most likely see a spike in sales whether or not it has more total (#) quality titles than the 360 due to it’s exclusive titles, Blu-ray exclusivity, future price reductions, no future PS2 titles, PS2 not being restocked on store shelves, future redesign (slim), possible future native backwards compatibility, and a possible success with Home rivaling XBox Live in both achievements and online capabilities.
Note 4: Xbox 360 will continue to sell at an acceptable pace due to present and future quality titles and exclusives, XBox Live/Achievement/Gamerscore popularity, future price reductions, and a possible future redesign. Blu-ray does not seem to be a factor this year, but will gain momentum next year. Microsoft will continue to take advantage of it’s lead online and focus on DLC.
By Carl Borrowman
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May 8th, 2008
Congratulations 360… a well earned victory…
cant say that this site is a PS3 fanboy site…
May 8th, 2008
So what does this extrapolation tell you?
Rated 8.0 or above (per month on market):
PS3 – 52 (2.9)
360 – 91 (3.0)
Wii – 29 (1.6)
PS2 – 302 (3.4)
DS – 65 (1.5)
PSP – 79 (2.2)
Tells ME that unless PS3 ramps it up, it won’t catch XB360 in “quality games”.
OR, it means that statistics can be made to say whatever one wants them to say…
May 8th, 2008
I think they need to make up their minds as to who has what , when…… This week, this console is better, the next week, the other console is better….oouch, my head hurts… lol
I don’t really care who has the most or best. There are PLENTY of games on both systems that I would love to have, that I cant get anyways.
May 8th, 2008
I just love the ps3 predictions. gawd..how many times do ps3 predictions have to fail before people stop trying to predict its performance. so far, every single prediction of the ps3 performance in every area, sales, power, customer base, clout of bluray, Home, etc, etc, has failed, but that doesn’t stop the fans from predicting more aggressive growth than the competition based on criteria the other consoles have as well. oh well….
May 8th, 2008
ps…nice dig at “obese” americans… i take it you’ve never been to italy. i love these non-americans basing opinions of a country on a news story or documentary.
so bluray is a non-factor “this year”? gee..i wonder why the ps3 fans changed stances from “when blooooray wins the format war, people will buy the ps3 waaaay more than 360s or wii”, to “it doesn’t mattert THIS year”. Let me guess; you’re gonna fall on the same weak argument of sony’s; “just wait”…
you guys just dont’ get it; bluray just doesn’t have the appeal to mass consumers. with current standalone players upwards of $500 USD, it’s silly to think ONE year is goin to reduce pricing to a more acceptable range to gain serious market penetration. remember; sony RAISED the prices of bluray players when hd dvd bowed out. doesn’t sound like sony is going to let bluray get affordable anytime soon. certainly not in a year.
May 8th, 2008
ah, Kevin. Good to see you back at your post. Frankly, I completely disagree with the writer. Blu-ray is a factor. Check out any industry analysis of PS3 sales in conjunction with the victory of Blu-ray.
Kevin, one of the best selling Blu-ray player on the market is the PS3…and prices have dropped since release. Industry analysts predict a drop in PS3 prices due to the recession as well as the integration of more efficient, newer hardware.
Side note (to go with the writer’s multiple notes) : its even more ludicrous to predict what games will be rated in the future before they’re released than it is to make claims of a console’s superiority in fanboy fashion. That isn’t at all relevant. That’s like saying “well, PS4 will be better than the next 360 console based on predictions.” You can’t know that, or even claim that.
May 8th, 2008
triston – i agree 100%. the ps3 is THE best selling bluray player on the market. however, to penetrate the home en mass, the standalone players is what will draw the consumers. Not the ps3, as proven by it being outsold in the largest single market (NA) even after bluray’s “win”. it’s odd that noone mentions the360 haveing an impending price drop. With the component costs of the 360 being a fraction of the ps3’s, ms is in a much better position for competitive pricing as they are currently making a profit from each 360 sold. The ps3 is still losing money for sony on a per unit basis with no relief in sight.
the prices of bluray players HAVE dropped….from $700 to $500. ($500 being the “budget” player), but then sony added another $20 upcharge to their players recently, actually going back UP in pricing.
i guess the point i’m making is simply that IF bluray was a factor then it would be showing in much more aggressive ps3 growth and bluray adoption escpecially given there are supposedly 120 million customers from last gen. with that kind of historical consumer support, the ps3 should be walloping all comers, but it’s not. even after bluray “won the format war”.
it’s important to remember comparing bluray adoption to that of dvd is completely flawed as 1. standalone dvd players were at $200 when the ps2 launched at $299 and 2. there was no online retailers offering d/l movies to compete with.
i see your points, triston, i really do. i just agree to disagree.
May 8th, 2008
again the PS3 bashing comments… kevin…
Maybe one of the reasons the PS3 isnt selling well in USA.. because of their wonderfull economy and all the jobs they have… the jobs that DIDNT get cut or out sourced… cus the PS3 is having good sales in Europe…
ohh well.. just an observation… could be wrong… but congrats to the 360… maybe they’ll make the games region free… so I can buy the originals…
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7386879.stm
May 8th, 2008
dwh – actually the ps3 wasn’t selling well in na for the last year. wellllll before anyone said anything about the economy. in fact, it was very easy to see shelves full of ps3 after the holiday it was launched. two tax return seasons and still the ps3 remains largely ignored. the interest is just not there. the vast majority of na does NOT have 1080p tv nor the inclination to buy a 1080p movie player when they don’t have a tv to match. just too costly. i KNOW you think the ps3 is a value because sony said so, it’s just the majority of people don’t see it that way.
May 8th, 2008
Kevin Don’t waist your time wiht DWH he is such a waist of time I completely ignore him now.
May 8th, 2008
OH NO!!!
CAD ignores me… yes dont waste your time “WIHT” me… problem is.. you cant see the difference between fact and an observation.. even though I specifically wrote it down… and said “could be wrong” see thats the point of a discussion.. you put your ideas forward… and find out how valid they are…
and no kevin.. unlike you.. I dont think anything others tell me to… I didnt buy the PS3 cus “Sony said its a value for money” I bought it because of no region lock.. I couldnt play FiFA 08 onmy 360 cus of region lock… that was a dissapointment….
but the PS3 is or is on the verge of outselling the 360 in europe… why is that?? NOT a sarcastic question.. Im just curious…
May 8th, 2008
spideydog – each console will can look good at different angles, e. g. PS3 as a blu-ray player, low-end personal computer, and MGS4 showcase. Any good gaming site will be able to take an objective view from all angles with different statistics and come up with a way to view almost any console in a favorable light. The thing is, news happens and we get different ideas at different times, trying our best to report what we find objectively.
+1 to you, there are definitely more than enough good games on any one console to keep most of us busy with what time we have.
May 8th, 2008
correction: can be looked at from different angles.
kevin – I feel pretty safe with these predictions. You are welcome to have the first shot at making me eat crow if any of them are wrong.
Thanks for the complement, my observation of “obese Americans” is based on physical observation, paying attention to the news, and living in many countries, including Italy (I’ll take American pizza anyday over that stuff, regardless of authenticity).
Let me get this straight, are you calling me “non-American”? Check your facts, please. Just because this is an Australian based website doesn’t mean I am not American. You serve 16 years in the United States in the Marine Corps and them come talk to me about being a “non-American”.
Anyway, I am currently stationed in California and should return to Iraq soon (not too many obese people there, I’ve noticed).
When 1 out of every 3 Americans is considered obese or overweight, and there is an “obesity epidemic” in America, it is not a “dig”, it is a sad fact. In the 22+ countries I have been stationed in or visited, I can say based on personal observation that America is currently the fattest nation on the face of the planet. We have the most resources, but we also seem to feed our faces the most, while other nations people starve. Granted, we do provide aid, but we need to grow up as a people and be more responsible with the advantages we have, both financially and physically.
Blu-ray is a factor, just not as much of one as has been predicted before. While it has increased sales since HD-DVD was abandoned by Toshiba, when it comes to the overall console sales race this year, I would maintain that it is a non-factor, and have not stated anything before that claims otherwise.
To say that Blu-ray will not “gain momentum” next year would be silly, as prices will continue to be reduced and sales of Blu-ray should increase, even in just one year.
By the way, if you read it, I did mention in the article that the 360 should have an upcoming price drop in stating “future price reductions”.
May 8th, 2008
Well most of my games are just for PLAYSTATION3 not Xbox 360. PS3 has way way better games i don’t care about a dead website stats it doesn’t mean sh!t fanboys. Xbox is just for First Person Shooter fan nothing else Microsoft only made Halo Sony made wow too many to list here.
My PSN ID: Ivan-
My Gamertag: Ivan PSP
May 8th, 2008
Can I just ask, where are the links to the sources here? I’d like to look at those numbers as per the industry analyses themselves.
May 8th, 2008
Triston – see above. Blu-ray, as kevin said, should have sold more PS3’s by now if it was the factor everybody was predicting it would be this year.
I maintain that both PS3 and Blu-ray sales will grow significantly more next year, due to many factors besides just Blu-ray, but it is simply not significant enough to have even caught up with XBox 360 sales so far.
I think you may have misread what I wrote and need to take another look:
“Hope for PS3 owners and others may come in the future, considering yet to be released titles.
Using GameStats GPM, or Game Popularity Metric, the following future release tallies were taken for each console game burning the gauge at 80% or above:
Games rated 80% or above expected in the future:
PS3 – 24
360 – 28
Wii – 5
PS2 – 0
DS – 2
PSP – 1
Note 1: the GPM does not represent quality, but does “express buzz, desire to play the game, awareness, and post-release activity” based upon IGN’s database. That is, not accurate, but representative of 1 site’s traffic (est. 18 million).”
As stated, that list was representing the GPM, not actual future review scores. Stating there may be hope in the future for more quality titles on each console based on this score, actually looking at the titles, then looking at previews and other information is not “ludicrous”, but I think rather reasonable, wouldn’t you say?
I mean, do you think MGS4, RE5, and GT5 stand a decent chance of having the averages of their reviews come out over 80%? That they at least give hope for the owner of that particular console that just doesn’t happen to have as many highly reviewed titles on it as another particular one?
Methinks it does.
May 8th, 2008
Unfortunately Tristan, the links included in this article didn’t make it, but there were not that many anyway. All the information from the article is easily derived from http://www.gamestats.com
If you are talking about Blu-ray and PS3 sales, here are a couple that recently came in:
http://www.dbtechno.com/industry/2008/05/05/low-sales-show-consumers-have-yet-to-embrace-blu-ray/
http://www.avreview.co.uk/news/article/mps/uan/1943
While they are based on NPD numbers, I don’t have anything favorable for Sony, Europe or otherwise, that isn’t based off of Sony statements, which may not be exactly unbiased… do you have any industry analyses sources that are not Sony saying something different? Please post.
May 8th, 2008
@DWH
You were looking for an inane post from Ivan_PSP to rip into, be my guest!
It’s no secret that there have been more 360 games with higher scores, it’s been given a year’s headstart, thus a year’s more worth of games, so that’s a no-brainer. PS3 does have some potentially great exclusives coming out, which may even tilt me into getting one if the price reaches sub $350 in Aus.
I don’t like the business of predicting what scores a game will get. Lair is a perfect example of that. I say we should just sit back, enjoy our games, and stop predicting stuff. That way we don’t get any egg on our face i.e. Michael Patcher.
May 8th, 2008
Okay, for the record, this article does not predict any future review scores anywhere.
The GPM list at the end does indicate future titles popularity and anticipation, i. e. hope for console owners that more quality titles will continue to appear in the future.
There is a decent chance many of these will score at least 80% or above in reviews after they release. The top ten rated above 80% based on these scores (site traffic/popularity) for each console are:
PS3:
MGS4
Killzone 2
FF XIII
Resistance 2
Little Big Planet
Haze
GT5 Prologue
MotorStorm: Pacific Rift
Soul Calibur 4
Madden NFL 09
360:
Ninja Gaiden 2
Too Human
Top Spin 3
Battlefield: Bad Company
Saints Row 2
Fable 2
Madden NFL 09
NCAA Football 09
Lego Indiana Jones
Soul Calibur 4
Wii:
Wii Fit
Rock Band Special Ed
The Conduit
Star Wars Force Unleashed
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: My Life as a King
(there were no more than 5 rated above 80%)
May 8th, 2008
huh?
May 8th, 2008
Carl and Triston +1
And thanks Carl. Yes you are right they can be viewed from different angles. Just seems so petty we are looking at the different “angles” to be able to say this one is better, or this one is better.
But I suppose it’s what makes news and gives us some good argument points eh !!!
With the price difference between DVD and Blu-Ray of course DVD is still going to be dominate. DVD in hardware and discs is a poofteenth of the Blu-ray + you need a HD tv as well. The change over is going to take time and is only just getting momentum. Look at the VHS to DVD change over. It took ages, but finally happened. And I will say the same for the “120 mil PS2 owners” once game production winds down for PS2 and the price for PS3 comes down, the adoption rate will come. So you can harp on as much as you want about the failed PS2 change over rate, but realistically these people are smart and waiting for the right conditions (in my opinion)
As a side note, a good a handfull of work collegues bought a PS3 (older collegues 40+) primarily for what…… Blu-Ray movies, because it was the cheapest and best blu-ray player which is also upgradable (firmware) So on a personal note, I can confirm that people are adopting the PS3 because of the Blu-Ray and because it “won” the HD war are comfortable in adopting it.
May 8th, 2008
Kevin, Cad – well….OMG the saga continues. Though Kevin you were a little more constructive this time.
Ivan, us PS3 owners were looking like the rational ones until you showed up. Remember .. credit where it is due, discuss when it’s not.
winner, some nice points.
May 9th, 2008
Well wait and see how this games get a %90 and up score average from all reviewers around the world. Most of the games developed and published by SCEA aka Sony get almost perfect score examples Uncharted: Drake’s Fortune, Resistance: Fall of Man, Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction, God of War: Chains of Olympus and Daxter for PSP.
Naughty Dog
Insomniac Games
Zipper Interactive
Evolution Studio
Guerilla Games
Incognito Entertainment
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
SOCOM: Confrontation
Resistance 2
Killzone 2
Final Fantasy XIII
Haze
Motorstorm 2: Pacific Rift
LittleBigPlanet
May 9th, 2008
carl – my point is; NO prediction of the ps3’s success in sales, games, or online have come true. i see no reason why yours would be any different. the lines between dvd adoption and bluray adoption are not parallel, but somehow every ps3 fan thinks it’s the exact same thing. it’s not. people forget dvd did NOT require people to buy a brand new $1,000 to fully exploit what dvd has to offer. bluray does.
i just don’t understand why you claim the ps3 sales will be more aggressive with price drops and exclusives. the EXACT SAME THING the other consoles have, but they will only sell “acceptably”? wtf….?
congrats, i too, was stationed in California. Edwards AFB to be exact. Even worked with some of your guys from the MAG 46, Det Bravo a few years back. Before then many other places both in USAFE and PACAF. The funny thing that NOONE claiming “americans are obese” seems to notice is that the US uses a more stringent BMI to determine “obese” from not. I’ve got more time in the chow hall than you do on active service, jarhead, so watch your tone. Peddleton is okay, trained at twenty nine palms. War vet, decorated, the whole nine yards, so put your “i’m a vet”-card away.
May 9th, 2008
carl – you generalizing americans as obese is like generalizing marines as *ahem* not-too-bright. we both know these stereotypes exist, but do they need to be carried on? next time, stick to the games. if you don’t want to be labeled anti-american, watch how you talk about americans. pretty simple concept, even for a devil-dog.
May 9th, 2008
spidey- i agree. the ps3 will sell when the price drops. SO WILL ALL OTHER CONSOLES. you guys really worship that thing, don’t you…..
May 9th, 2008
All PS3 are coming true you noob fanboy just STF
May 9th, 2008
All PS3 ^prediction good ones are all coming true one day at a time. While Xbox 360 is going downhill since 2008 started. You noob fanboy just STF
Fable 2
Gears of War 2 the first one was mediocore with great graphics boring short as hell story. Online is a joke with lag and cheaters and only 8 players which blows.
Too Human will fail it looks bad already but i’m pretty sure it will be extremely over hyped by Microsoft. That’s about as much as you gonna get. If i were to list the PS3 exclusives here that all Xbox 360 will drool over it will just take for ever to finish. Most Xbox 360 hate Resistance which a lot like Halo. Plus Microsoft’s abandon their customer every 4 years which sucks and the console is unreliable. I know no Xbox 360 will ever want to admit the true well at least i can. Xbox 360 will never win well Microsoft can dream but dreams always fade away.
May 9th, 2008
kevin – PS3 sales increase, not necessarily more so than others. “Acceptably” is also a conservative, and therefore more realistic prediction. I’m not going to do a Pachter and say this will outsell that by 1 million consoles because of this.
Interesting point I haven’t heard of before on the BMI, but I’ll stick to my original point, which is not a generalization or representative of all America, and is not isolated to obese people in America:
“Obese people in America and other countries will see to it that WiiF sells well.” Notice I also said other countries, and obese people, not all people.
How is a BMI of over 30 more stringent than what other countries use?
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/42134.php
Granted, while Nauru, Micronesia, Cook Islands, Tonga, Niue, Samoa, Palau, and Kuwait may all have a slightly higher percentage of overweight people, they don’t come to mind as particularly large or as one of the largest consumers of resources on the face of the planet.
http://www.epidemiologic.org/2007/02/most-overweight-countries-in-world.html
I never generalized Americans as obese. I said there are obese Americans who will buy Wii Fit.
“The National Center for Health statistics has been tracking America’s obesity problem for over four decades. The following statistics support the growing concern regarding the obesity problem in America.
“Between 1962 and the year 2000, the number of obese Americans grew from 13% to an alarming 31% of the population.
63% of Americans are overweight with a Body Mass Index (BMI) in excess of 25.0.
31% are obese with a BMI in excess of 30.0.
Childhood obesity in the United States has more than tripled in the past two decades.
According to the U.S. Surgeon General report obesity is responsible for 300,000 deaths every year.”
http://www.americansportsdata.com/obesitystats.asp
Being aware of these facts and realizing there is a problem with not just our country, but others as well is not anti-American, it is being responsible.
In “sticking to games”, Wii Fit is considered to be a game, but also a piece of software that can help people lose excess fat, and happens to be sold on a console that will be bought with the “game” by Americans and citizens of other countries, who are of all shapes and sizes, not just round and large.
Sir, I respect your service and your opinion, but while you may have actually spent an equivalent of almost 17 years in the chow hall, I am entitled to write in this manner, and I uphold that it is not “anti-American”.
Trust me, I watch what I write, and I mean what I say based upon facts and direct observation, this is not “anti-American”. Freedom of (responsible) speech is a pretty simple concept, even for a flyboy.
If you find anything incorrect in what I’ve said, you are welcome to correct it.
May 9th, 2008
Ivan,
What does “STF” stand for? Shoot the Freak? “Just shoot the freak, noob!”
…
No, that doesn’t sound right…
I was originally going to explain to you how the 360 is doing fine and won’t be going away any time soon, but then I remembered who you are and that you’re not here to learn, discuss, or be reasonable.
I don’t know about you, Ivan, but lately I have been playing Hot Shots Golf 5 and Mario Kart Wii pretty addictively, while getting in extra missions on Crisis Core for my PSP when I can. You’re obviously bored, so why don’t you channel some of that boredom into trying those games out? They’re fun, I promise.
-Arvis
May 10th, 2008
ohh come on Ivan….
I liked Gears of war.. it had good graphics… good gameplay… good story… GREAT game…
looking forward to Fable 2…
and kevin.. so the minute we say something REMOTELY “NOT positive” about America… when we dont look like we’re kissing American ass… we are labled Anti-American?? which in another way means.. Anti-democratic… and so on.. even though people make fun of mexicans… French.. brits.. aussies… without any “concequesces”… that to me.. is hippocritical… if I want.. Ill talk about fat-ass americans… who are you to stop me?? go on.. label me all you want.. you’ve lost your “cred” with all those die hard 360 ass kissin…
BEGONE little kid… XD
May 10th, 2008
Wow Microsoft should hire all of their fanboy since they seem to like and do and worship Microsoft Xbox 360. Theres basically no point in talking to Xbox fanboy anymore too immature is like talking to idiots… I’m out all my points we come together and you all fanboy look like what you or better yet what Microsoft made you a big dumb idiotic fanboy on denial that doesn’t want to see the true…
May 10th, 2008
kevin – PS3 sales increase, not necessarily more so than others. “Acceptably” is also a conservative, and therefore more realistic prediction. I’m not going to do a Pachter and say this will outsell that by 1 million consoles because of this.
Interesting point I haven’t heard of before on the BMI, but I’ll stick to my original point, which is not a generalization or representative of all America, and is not isolated to obese people in America:
“Obese people in America and other countries will see to it that WiiF sells well.” Notice I also said other countries, and obese people, not all people.
How is a BMI of over 30 more stringent than what other countries use?
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/42134.php
May 10th, 2008
kevin – Granted, while Nauru, Micronesia, Cook Islands, Tonga, Niue, Samoa, Palau, and Kuwait may all have a slightly higher percentage of overweight people, they don’t come to mind as particularly large or as one of the largest consumers of resources on the face of the planet.
http://www.epidemiologic.org/2007/02/most-overweight-countries-in-world.html
May 10th, 2008
kevin – I never generalized Americans as obese. I said there are obese Americans who will buy Wii Fit.
“The National Center for Health statistics has been tracking America’s obesity problem for over four decades. The following statistics support the growing concern regarding the obesity problem in America.
“Between 1962 and the year 2000, the number of obese Americans grew from 13% to an alarming 31% of the population.
63% of Americans are overweight with a Body Mass Index (BMI) in excess of 25.0.
31% are obese with a BMI in excess of 30.0.
Childhood obesity in the United States has more than tripled in the past two decades.
According to the U.S. Surgeon General report obesity is responsible for 300,000 deaths every year.”
http://www.americansportsdata.com/obesitystats.asp
May 10th, 2008
Being aware of these facts and realizing there is a problem with not just our country, but others as well is not anti-American, it is being responsible.
In “sticking to games”, Wii Fit is considered to be a game, but also a piece of software that can help people lose excess fat, and happens to be sold on a console that will be bought with the “game” by Americans and citizens of other countries, who are of all shapes and sizes, not just round and large.
Sir, I respect your service and your opinion, but while you may have actually spent an equivalent of almost 17 years in the chow hall, I am entitled to write in this manner, and I uphold that it is not “anti-American”.
Trust me, I watch what I write, and I mean what I say based upon facts and direct observation, this is not “anti-American”. Freedom of (responsible) speech is a pretty simple concept, even for a zoomie.
If you find anything incorrect in what I’ve said, you are welcome to correct it flyboy.
May 10th, 2008
nice Carl…
you got my vote… I love it when others stick it to kevin… it makes my day
May 10th, 2008
DWH,
It’s not difficult, and it even seems to be the cool thing to do on these boards lately. You must get your day made alot.
-Arvis
May 10th, 2008
Quote: “spidey- i agree. the ps3 will sell when the price drops. SO WILL ALL OTHER CONSOLES. you guys really worship that thing, don’t you…..”
Kevin: I NEVER said other console sales would not increase as well…so I don’t know why you brought that point up. You were talking about “alledged” dismal PS3 sales, I defended it. Nothing at all said about “other” console sales.
Feeling a little insecure Kev ??
But now you bring it up, I predict that the PS3 will overtake 360 sales in ALL regions in the not too distant future. There…now you got something to pick at.
May 12th, 2008
carl – i never once said you were “anti american”, those were your words.
spidey – give me a date when the ps3 will surpass the lead the 360 has in NA. thanks.
May 12th, 2008
kevin – your words:
“if you don’t want to be labeled anti-american, watch how you talk about americans”
insinuated to me that I could be labeled anti-american for the way I wrote, I was just clarifying my standpoint.
May 12th, 2008
December 13th at 3.17am, me thinks……………. you fool?
June 13th, 2008
the GPM does not represent quality, but does “express buzz, desire to play the game, awareness. LOL i think Playstation 3 fans would “desire” to play just about anything meanwhile 360 fans don’t know which game to buy first. And for the record I’m not a fanboy i have just never like Playstations, there exclusives never stay exclusive and Sony just cant seem to work out that there controller sucks for serious gaming.
December 7th, 2008
Metal Gear Solid 4 is a PS3 exclusive I would want to play… er… just not bad enough to spend another $400 on.