Microsoft’s Xbox 360 sinking quickly in face of opposition from PS3 and Wii
By Mike Ferro
Even though Microsoft just came off a great year in 2007 with the release of exclusive blockbuster titles such as Halo 3, Bioshock and Forza 2 they are now in a much weaker position more than ever this year. The future is starting to look a bit bleak for this console in face of stiff competition from the Wii and PS3.
The Xbox 360 started out with a bang getting the jump on the PS3 and Wii by releasing a whole year ahead of both competitors in their latest console offering in hopes of quickly garnering a huge fanbase within a year’s time. You would expect with almost twice as much time on the market the Xbox 360 would have easily accumulated and retained twice the sales of its competitors, yet over two years later the Xbox 360 with it’s estimated 18 million units sold haven’t sold twice as much as the Wii which sold an estimated 25 million, or the PS3 which sold an estimated 12 million world wide.
Console Sales:
So, does it look like Microsoft squandered their one year lead? It sure looks that way, with the Wii already surpassing it and the PS3 quickly catching up. The Wii is a phenomenon and an unstoppable force that is still extremely high in demand. The PS3 is a different story and a bit more complex. It isn’t a heavy hitter like the Wii, but the PS3’s worldwide sales have been out pacing Xbox 360’s worldwide on an average monthly basis when compared to same points in their lifetime.
The PS3 has outsold the Xbox 360 during its first years lifetime sales amongst stiff competition, and has currently outsold Xbox 360 console sales for the first part of this year in North America as well. In Europe Sony recently announced they have outsold the Xbox 360 total lifetime within a much shorter amount of time due to the PS3 launching much later in Europe, which in itself is amazing. Also in Japan the Xbox 360 is not selling well at all, which is really not all that surprising. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out if PS3 sales progress exactly the way they have been since launch, statistically at one point PS3 sales will over take Xbox 360 sales.
Games:
Exclusives are quickly going the way of the dinosaur with more and more third party developers choosing to develop multiplatform rather than concentrate on a single platform. Who can blame them? With GTA IV and Call of Duty 4 selling millions on both consoles it’s really a no brainier. According to Gamepro even Bioshock 2 development team 2K Marin’s job posting has started a rumor its blockbuster title might go multiplatform with their job posting emphasizing under needed qualifications as:
“PlayStation 3 experience is required.”
In the future the Metal Gear franchise may go multiplatform as well as Gears of War franchise as perdicted by Michael Pachter. It has been publicially know that EPIC did sign a two game deal with Microsoft before 2005, but now realizing how much of a blockbuster title Gears of War is will they seal their fate by signing a contract to tie up Gears 3 with Microsoft? Or will they choose money, and decide to go multiplatform?
So, if all the third party developers eventually all develop multiplatform what exclusive games will really lure new consumers to a particular console? The answer of course are the first party titles. Nintendo’s first party studios are a power house with titles like Wii Sports selling around 22 million units and Wii Play around 12 million units. Sony Computer Entertainment however houses over 20 internal studios including famed studios such as Team ICO, Zipper Interactive, Naughty Dog, and of course Polyphony Digital who just celebrated their historic milestone of selling a whopping total of 50 million units from the Gran Turismo franchise.
List of some of the SCE owned studios:
Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.
- Clap Hanz – Hot Shots Golf series
- Polyphony Digital - Gran Turismo series, Motor Toon Grand Prix series, Omega Boost
- SCE Japan Studio - Project Siren Team, etc, Ape Escape series, LocoRoco
- Team ICO – ICO, Shadow of the Colossus
SCEI Subsidiary Divisions Sony Computer Entertainment America Inc.
- Incognito Entertainment – Twisted Metal series, Warhawk
- Naughty Dog – Jak series, Uncharted Drake’s Fortune
- SCE Bend Studio (formerly Eidetic) – Syphon Filter series
- SCE Foster City Studio – Jet Li: Rise to Honor
- SCE San Diego Studio – The Mark of Kri, NBA ‘07, MLB The Show 08
- SCE Santa Monica Studio – God of War, Kinetica
- Sony Online Entertainment LLC. – EverQuest
- Sucker Punch Productions - Sly Cooper series, Infamous
- Zipper Interactive – SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs series
Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Ltd.
- Bigbig Studios – Pursuit Force
- Evolution Studios – MotorStorm
- Guerrilla Games – Killzone series
- SCE London Studio (includes Team SOHO & Camden) – The Getaway series, SingStar series
- SCE Studio Cambridge (formerly Millennium Interactive) – MediEvil series, Primal
- SCE Studio Liverpool (formerly Psygnosis) – Wipeout series, F1 series
Sony Computer Entertainment Korea Inc.
SCE Korea – EyeToy: EduKids, GloRace: Phantastic Carnival
In contrast Microsoft Game Studios only houses a few console based internal studios. Actually currently there are only 3 active full-fledge game studios: Lionhead, Rare, and of course Turn 10. Out of those three, Turn 10 would probably be the most successful studio at Microsoft Game Studios. Their Forza series has always been top notch, selling million’s of units. However one can clearly see Microsoft’s lack of heavy hitting studios will be a huge problem for Microsoft Game Studio’s future.
It seems Microsoft Game Studios became a bit too ambitious for their own good. With an attempt to beat Sony to the punch, not only have they faced hardware issues they have circumvented garnering first party studios by handing out checks to third party developers for exclusives. However in the ever changing world of the game industry this is quickly turning out to be the wrong way to go about it with sky rocketing development costs multiplatform is becoming a must.
If Microsoft does not change its business strategy of just relying on third party titles, the Xbox 360 will find itself in a similar situation the original Xbox was in. The future of any console’s success will be their first party offerings and who can offer the most number of diverse titles and blockbuster hits, will have the edge to wining the console war. However, with Microsoft loosing four studios in the past few years analyst have questioned if Microsoft Game Studios was built on quick sand.
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May 12th, 2008
your article was perfect… PERFECT.. till you mentioned Pachter…
looks like Sony owns game studios.. and MS pays off devs… which means… well… nothing…
Unless they release Geow 1 with Geow 2… why would anyone play it on the PS3???
same with Bioshock 1 and 2… if they want to release the next one on PS3… they also have to release the first one…
I doubt the 360 will wither away… the worst that could happen is the 360 games needing more disk space and they release it in more than 1 dvds… or in a blu ray format…
till Home comes out… LIVE is still going to be better… and I really liked the “Playstation Points” idea… where you could pay to buy PSpoints that you could used to buy Downloadable maps…
its still gonna be a long while till I get a decent net speed…. unless I move…
May 12th, 2008
I would buy bioshock2 !!!
May 12th, 2008
Decent article, except comparing 360 and PS3 to Wii is just stupid. Wii doesn’t exist on even close to the same level as 360 and PS3. Compare apples to apples and Wii to PS2. Just because Nintendo got it to market way late (after the others had moved to a next generation) DOES NOT make Wii a “next generation” console.
May 12th, 2008
Nothing is mentioned about Software Sales where Microsoft excels.
Nice article but your tone is comes off as biased
May 12th, 2008
1 word, FUD.
Check your facts. 360 outsold the PS3 WW by a longshot. The PS3 has barely outsold the 360 two months of the 18 it’s been on the market in the US. Lastly, MS called Sony out on there European numbers stating just last week they hold over a million console lead in the region.
May 12th, 2008
Oh yeah - that list of Sony Developers have REALLY Come through for the PS3 . . . I mean just look at all the good games they’ve developed . .
Lair . . . oh crap.
Haze . . . oh crap, that one sucks too.
No, MS has the correct Model - show a good partnership, make them ton’s of money, and get your exclusives.
Sony dictates everything to their devs, therefore all the bad decisions Sony makes all the time filter down to their choice in game dictation.
Let the creators create, and you’ll get something better than the producer dictated crap.
How come BD drives haven’t resulted in better games?
May 12th, 2008
Jonathan, I think the point is in the future exclusive 3rd party studio development will become obsolete.
Lair and Haze are made by third party studios.
Yea Sony’s studios did come through with Warhawk, Uncharted Drake’s Fortune, Gran Turism, Motorstorm, God of War, Wipout Pure.
Hot Shots Golf, and Singstar sell extremely well too, but not my cup of tea.
May 12th, 2008
Last time I checked Jonathan Metal Gear Solid 4 had to be cut down to fit onto a Blu-Ray disk. and MS has the correct model??? Last time I checked the 360 didn’t have a single exclusive game that I wanted.
May 12th, 2008
No kiddin….360 fan boy here “nice” …I stopped reading like after the 2nd paragraph…look…! I’m so tired of the PS3 vs. Xbox fight…Untill the ps3 surpasses the 360 in total units sold…say 3 years from now…then I’ll worry about the death of the 360. They are so far in the advantage to the ps3, and when they go blu-ray, if they do…who is gonna buy a ps3?? Plus, the price…as soon as they drop the 360’s price the’ll spike units sold…I can’t wait to break the 20 million mark…gow2…wow! Ohh and don’t get me started on that mgs4…what they showed in the E3’s is not what I’m seeing now…all im seeing now is Ghost Recon graphics…the same one that was on the 360 3 years ago… nice ball drop sony!
May 12th, 2008
I agree with the author
May 12th, 2008
“In the history of computer and video games, the seventh generation began on November 21, 2004 with the North American release of the Nintendo DS, followed by the PlayStation Portable on December 12, 2004. The beginning of the seventh generation for home consoles came on November 22, 2005 with the release of Microsoft’s Xbox 360 and continued a year later with the release of Sony’s PlayStation 3 on November 11, 2006 and Nintendo’s Wii on November 19, 2006.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_game_consoles_%28seventh_generation%29
The Wii hardware is underpowered when compared to the other consoles, but it is still capable of producing better graphics than the GameCube, has more capabilities, is online, incorporates virtual console, has motion control technology, is currently outselling PS3 and XBox 360 combined, is a home videogame console, and is therefore considered next gen.
The thing is, next gen is no longer an accurate term to describe any of the consoles mentioned in this article. They are current generation, meaning this generation (in history) of videogaming, and the next is yet to be seen.
May 12th, 2008
yesss x360 is finished
MGS4 and KZ2 have killed x360 .
BTW MGS4 got 10/10 from OPM UK . more incoming
Others dont whine about LAIr
TWO WORLDS /HOUR OF VOCTORY got 2/10 from most websites
N3N got 1/10 from most websites
FLOP DRAGON/FLOP ODYSSEY are what x360 have.
Not to mention Bioshock and ME are coming to PS3 and are also on PC
x360 is finished
May 12th, 2008
Sorry, above
@DavidB
May 12th, 2008
Foo Man Ju: Great response and I totally agree.
May 12th, 2008
JOHNATHAN!!!
enjoy your breast bouncing sim… Xtreme 2 OH CRAP!!!
and Haze IS a good game… it ha sa solid story and looks very good and has multiplayer coop…
how do you know sony dictates everything?? are you a game developer?? NO!! wait… you probably “heard it from a friend of a friend who is a mail room clerk in a game studio..”
I understand your comment Carl… I use wiki to verigy sources and get facts as well… but the first thing the Nintendo PR said (when they unveiled it for the first time in E3) was … “If you are looking for the nex generation… youve come to the wrong place..”
so the Wii isnt a nex gen… though I think the motion controls is more of a nex gen than the 360s Gee pee you and the PS3s teh cells…
but thats just me… Im smitten with my wii…
MGS looks nothing like Ghost recon Foo man… get glasses cus your vision is crappy… it is the best looking console game I have seen…
Console cus Crysis is the best looking game “EVER”… go NOMAD!!! kill the koreans!!!!
May 12th, 2008
Both are great consoles although PS3 is better, but 360 is great too. Just the Wii that sucks
May 12th, 2008
@ Jonathan
neither factor 5 nor Ubisoft are internal sony dev studios
May 12th, 2008
The Wii is a Phenomenon???
No. The Wii is $250!
May 12th, 2008
DWH and DavidB, define “next generation”.
May 12th, 2008
the M$ have :alan wake
mass effect 2
bioshock 2(surfe girl’sblog say exclusive still)
halo wars
fable 2
project dimitri(lionhead)
halo peter jackhson
left 4 dead
splinte cell conviction(weak)
gow 2
dead rising 2
May 12th, 2008
So yeah xbox 360 is dead.
May 12th, 2008
I would define “next generation” as a console with capability to display in High Definition resolutions
anyhow why does the Wii always get dragged into the fight? The article has nothing to do with it.
May 12th, 2008
Well sounds like his a Sony Fan. Lets look at the facts, I was looking to buy a PS3 just because it has a Blue Ray player. Even Sony stated that they have customers buying there system for Blue Ray movie use only, cause it’s the cheapest Blue Ray player out there. I also have a few friends that have the system but they only use it for Blue Ray movies, cause everyone has Xbox 360, we all join & go on line to team up on others. I was going to buy a PS3 but here is what I found out. It outputs 60Hz instead of 120Hz for blue ray movies refresh rate. The system has a 256MB of memory compared to a 512MB memory for 360. sure it has stronger graphics (so I was told but I haven’t seen it), but it saves programs in the hard drive just to save some memory space, & the hard drive is not even replaceable or upgradeable (if you think about it, you can see where this would lead to). You call this the next Gen???? please, now MS has done a crappy job cause of all the recalls, but they stud up & face the fire by replace or fixing all of them free of charge. You just wont have one for a month. Ummm let see, its less then $4 per month ($49.99 for 13 months, do the math) to have internet service for the 360. it’s a lot better service then PS3 & Wii’s network. Lets not forget the fact that MS made so much money, they paid Rockstar $50Million to make an exclusive GTA4 game play of somewhat (don’t know the details), i can go on. Lets not forget all the other fun games they have for example Gears of War. PS3’s MG4 or 5, I hear that some people are disappointed of the graphics & this game was delayed like how many times (google it, you’ll see)???? it takes ALMOST twice the amount of time to make a game for PS3 then 360 because the system is so complex. This is a sales pitch, if you can make people believe everyone is buying it, then you will too. Microsoft has done a great job with there system, & as of right now they are ahead. PS3 hopefully they will catch up that would put pressure on MS to do better (ya as a Xbox 360 owner i would like Sony to catch up so i can see better things on 360). But I think by the time PS3 lines up, it will be time for next gen. we are going to have to wait & see =o)
May 12th, 2008
Bah, neither console is going to die.
When did ‘next gen’ = ‘more power’ seriously? Oh I know, when fanboi’s and ‘hardc0rez’ made it so.
Lets face facts here, the ps3 (which i own), 360, and in MANY cases the Wii(which i also own), offer NOTHING new over previous generations.
All I’m playing so far is games like the last gen. with more polys and better rendering techniques (I’m not saying they’re bad games). Games that could be be PS2, cube or 360 if they had lower poly counts.
IMO the PS3 will enjoy a longer life than the 360 due to sony support. I have a bad feeling that MS is going to push the next generation on us too soon, but I guess even that is years off.
May 12th, 2008
wow darkwhitehair - Are you upset that DOA Extreme wasn’t a crotch bouncing game? As a straight male, I might go rent DOA Extreme if it’s as you say it is . . . I’ll get Viva Piniata for you and drop it off at your San Fran apartment.
Not sure why you keep bringing that game up, I’ve never heard of it nor do I think it even sold well, so how does chosing one dumb game facilitate any argument whatsoever?
Whereas Haze and Lair have been touted as “Console sellers” . . . Sorry guys, but Console sellers can’t suck.
and all I’ve heard is not good at all for either of them.
SHake that controller!
May 12th, 2008
How bout exclusives to the 360 like Bioshock? Gears of War 2 is going to rock ya’ll.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/33780.html
May 12th, 2008
so far the xbox franchise has destroyed every “xbox will fail” prediction to date. this is no different. the author’s slanted views on washed up franchises on the ps3 is laughable on so many levels. we get it; “just wait”… the same thing sony fanboys have been saying for two years. so far, sony with their “120 million ps2 users” can’t convince ps3 owners to buy consoles more so than the 360. Yes, i know sony said they sold more in the EU yet showed not facts supporting this. ms, countered and showed where they get their data, and somehow this isn’t credible… this site is more of a joke everday. what’s even funnier is that the 360 has almost TWICE the attach ratio of games sold even w/o the needed studios the author thinks they need.
the ps3 is a fine movie player. gaming console? not so much.
May 12th, 2008
@Foo Man Ju
Your opinion is based on flawed facts and fanboy logic. So a 360 with a blue-ray comes out and all of sudden nobody buys a PS3…. how does that make sense? Did you ever wonder how much that 360 model will cost? And second, this whole article was about pointing out that 1st party games will be what it comes down to and nintendo and sony have the upper hand in the long run.
I can see your opinion is mostly based on a short-term vision of the future and facts. Enjoy the 360, its a great console but stop defending Microsoft like they give two cents about 1 penny a$$.
May 12th, 2008
The latest gears of war 2 trailer looks washed out and mediocre.
enough with the fps though,this game looks just like the 1st one boring.
May 12th, 2008
Sergio, let’s look at the facts: PS3 harddrive is replaceable and upgradable.
May 12th, 2008
Jonathan
PS3 has
MGS4
FF13
FF13 versus
AFRIKA
LBP
8 DAYS
GETAWAY 3
RESISTANCE 2
KILLZONE 2
UNCHARTED 2
BIOSHOCK 2 ( coming to PS3 yea)
Mass effect (also coming to PS3 in september)
White Knight Story
Wardevil
GT5
God of War 3
Star Ocean 4
Tekken 6
BAZBLUE
MOTORSTORM 2
HEAVENLY SWORD
PS3 has all the big games
FF13 alone is bigger than all x360 games combined. and so is MGS4
It is over for XFIX ME
May 12th, 2008
@kevin
PS3 is just 3m away from X360s total base
PS3 is at 13m ( 5m USA + 5m in EUROPE+ 1m in REST OF ASIA and PAL regions + 2.3m in JAPAN)
Total = 13.3 m
x360 is at 16.5m
11m in NA ( NDP can+usa + latin america)
+<5m in europe+ <500k in rest of asia +pal
+500k in Japan
total = 16.6m X360s worldwide
May 12th, 2008
Sergio, you are an uninformed boob. It makes me sad that people like you live.
May 12th, 2008
xbot - uh…geow is a tps not a fps…. thanks for proving ps3 fans know ZIP about games they supposedly saw.
May 12th, 2008
Wouldn’t it be cool to see a cross-platform game pitting 360 players against ps3 players…..own some ps3 NooB’s
May 12th, 2008
This article is bias, try correct attempts MS is not finished yet. Also Microsoft is likeable to me no other company would spend 9 Billion dollars on a console. They know how to market their product and have provided right kind of model for PC devs to get both game on PC and console, who were screwed by Sony.
Some one was complaining abt games are bad but they are good I mean gameplay is there in the games most them are not so cinematic but freedom in gameplay and fun factor is more. It makes you play more.
May 12th, 2008
well if microsoft wants more units sold they could always down the price but hey nintendo had the better idea cheaper price that any one can offord
May 12th, 2008
PS3 has an attach rate of 4.7 after a year, which isn’t too far from what Xbox 360’s 1st year was.
May 12th, 2008
Wii ftw! Nintendo winning by a long shot and will continue to do so.
May 12th, 2008
Well it seems that in house means nothing since Sony is behind in the console race when it comes to exclusives. Does a company really need to have an inhouse studio to make exclusives. That just means more overhead. Business sutdents know what I’m talking about. When you outsource you cut your cost. There is nothing wrong with the way Microsoft does business. Gears of war will never come to PS3. Neither Halo or Bioshock or any Game that is exclusive through a 3rd party developer. What do you think a contract is for. Consoles need exclusives otherwise there is nothing to seperate the two. Soul Caliber is getting exclusive characters for each console and Ironman got exclusive suites between the two. GTA IV had to be the biggest as PS3 will not get any exclusive content. They even put a time lock on Rockband in the UK for the 360. Microsoft is re-defining the way business is being done and Sony is pissed because they never thought of going the extra mile for their customers. Microsoft even stood behind their console with the RROD with a 3 year warrenty. Something sony did not do with the PS2.
May 12th, 2008
The xbox 360 has no games for 2008.
looks like its already dead for gamers around the world.
May 12th, 2008
@ Sergio,
I am going to pray your post was meant as sarcasm.
“Sony stated that they have customers buying there system for Blue Ray movie use”
- Yes they did, because that is part of thier strategy. It is an entertainment system, not
a games machine.
“The system has a 256MB of memory compared to a 512MB memory for 360″
- Incorrect, they both have 512. The ps3’s is just split.
“but it saves programs in the hard drive just to save some memory space,”
- OK so seriously, sarcasm or not, tell me now?!? IF the PS3 actually does any caching, its
a common thing to do when you have the hdd space to do. 360 can’t do it because the sku’s
don’t all have HDD’s. And yes, your 360 saves things to the HDD too!
“the hard drive is not even replaceable”
- Wrong again. You can replace it, the replacing procuedure is even covered by your
warranty. On top of that, you can use ANY common compatable hdd. With the 360 you have to
pay for the MS hdd that costs like $50-70 MORE than the actual HDD is worth.
“$49.99 for 13 months, do the math) to have internet service for the 360″
- Which is great, but I get the PSN for free and STILL no one has ever been able to explain
to me just why Live is any better, is this all down to cross game voice chat? Wow, ill erm,
hop on a vent server…
“they paid Rockstar $50Million to make an exclusive GTA4 game play”
- And they have not made that $50mil back yet either. There is speculation that the ps3
will get something also, probably not as big however.
“doubt time blah blah…PS3 then 360 because the system is so complex”
- You’re a game developer? Or because your ‘friend’ told you so?
“I hear that some people are disappointed of the graphics & this game was delayed like how many times”
- I understand some people think halo 3 sucks balls, Gears sucks, the 360 sucks, GOOGLE IT!!!!11one. Wow, the 360 must suck *rolleyes*
“I think by the time PS3 lines up, it will be time for next gen. we are going to have to
wait & see”
- If MS push a new generation by 2009 then I will laugh.
And before anyone ravages me for this, hey i’m bored at work, so technically I’m getting paid for this. A model employee
May 12th, 2008
I didnt know they had computers at burger king.
May 12th, 2008
@CAD
“Sony is pissed because they never thought of going the extra mile for their customers.”
I’m not really sure I agree. I believe sony kinda got a ‘god complex’ I think they presumed people would flock towards the machine, so they just didn’t think they would need it. Of course they were wrong. I think the same complex led to the massive purchase price etc.
Still, I’m happy with it. I have no beef with the 360, I almost got one over the PS3, but most of the exclusives don’t interest me except fable 2.
I am also a bit of a dual shock/sixaxis lover
May 12th, 2008
@Xbot,
Wow, that was erm, stellar… *rolleyes*
Shouldn’t you be in school son?
May 12th, 2008
AlexM:
how much do you wanna bet that your line up games will be delayed till next year? some of them are rumors also. FYI don’t mean to burst your bubble =o)
SW:
I e-mailed Sony twice, & still have not had an answer about the facts if PS3 does run at 60Hz or 120Hz. The memory I was also told it is 256MB. If it is splite into two separate memories, then why do you have to download software in your hard drive for Assassins Creed to play on PS3? I’m sure other games will too need this requirement!!! The 3rd e-mail, I got from Sony support was this:
Hello Sergio,
Thank you for writing us.
To view the technical specifications of the PLAYSTATION(R)3 computer
entertainment system please
click on the following link:
http://www.us.playstation.com/ps3/about/specs
wow, ya Sony’s is really smart. They couldn’t even answer a simple question, & at the time I went to the web site it didn’t tell me the specs I was looking for. & I think they still don’t, unless they update there web site. I doubt it, if you guys find it tell me the link, but it has to be Sony Corporation link. None of that fan boy websites.
May 12th, 2008
@Sergio
Awww but now you’re just too obvious :o)
May 12th, 2008
UPDATE
the M$ have :alan wake
mass effect 2
bioshock 2(surfe girl’sblog say exclusive still)
halo wars
fable 2
project dimitri(lionhead)
halo peter jackhson
left 4 dead
splinte cell conviction(weak)
gow 2
dead rising 2
war hound
wardevil is 360 too
hevelin sword dev make 360 too now
dead island
STALKER dev is exclusive 360
M$ weak??????
May 12th, 2008
SW:
how is that, I’m at work but thats OK. i still checked Sony’s website & it still doesn’t say it. just to put that in your face. i got my facts from professionals, not fanboys from websites.
May 12th, 2008
FLAME WAR!!! FLAME WAR!!!!!
Neither system is going to go away. Why don’t you kids just enjoy your games and stop bickering?
May 12th, 2008
you forgot Supreme Commander, PoS3 is not getting that either.
Supreme Commander is not FPS sony guys . . oh . . I know what you’ll say . . “that game sucks, we don’t want it!”
May 12th, 2008
just like every other sony gaystation website as soon the xbots retort with intelligence the the tekken 23 lovers back off!! the new socom looks terrible and lets face thats sony’s flagship game. you can wish in one hand and shit in the other, see which one fills up first. its always next year with sony.
May 12th, 2008
This article is…well…a joke. You really sound like a fanboy and it smells like a sales pitch. I have a 360 and a PS3 and the PS3 is collecting dust.
Mind you I didn’t even want a PS3. It was my Wife who wanted one because she said and I quote, ” We need a blu ray movie player for the living room”
Umm ok. Sure why not. Don’t get me wrong the hardware rocks. As far as software that’s where the 360 comes in. Face it people until the PS3 gets their act together with their online infrastructure, the 360 right now is the “IT” machine. 95% of multiplatform games run and look better on the 360 (including GTA IV- Yeah you heard me!).
Oh yeah ACHIEVEMENTS baby!! I love’em!! Even people that don’t initially care about them find them buying the 360 version over the PS3 version because it doesn’t feel right without having the achievements.
Oh yeah the controllers….must I go on?
Oh why not…..
….Xbox Live Arcade makes the PSN store look like……..
Ya know what I’m done.
May 12th, 2008
@DAVID BE
yes it does next generation is done as the next lot of games consoles not technology.
May 12th, 2008
The 360’s release schedule listed above is littered with desperate shovelware. PS3 has got 08 (and probably 09) sewn up on the games front.
Every criticism thrown at the PS3 can be or is being addressed (PSN, Better Games, Achievements, Voice Chat, in-game XMB).
My only criticism of the 360 is its tendency to crap itself and die without warning, which MS cannot address without recalling every faulty machine sold. An infinitely bigger issue than anything affecting the PS3.
Oh, and Jonathan - let me guess - you have no interest in Build Quality, Hi Def movies, bigger cheaper hard drives, Remote Play or MGS4. Grow up, sunshine…
May 12th, 2008
“wardevil is 360 too”
provide evidence of this
May 12th, 2008
I thought Sony flag ship game was God Of War.
May 12th, 2008
I’ve never heard of most of these games, so therefore, I don’t give a crap about them. Who wants to touch me? I said who wants to $#%^ing touch me??!?!?!
May 12th, 2008
Sony has stronger studio support, more games, larger audience, stronger brand.
33% failure rate..that alone shuts you pathetic fanboys faggets up..sitting around backing a crap system with 33% failure rate…PATHETIC xbox360 lol.
PS3 will beat 360..OFCOARSE, sales…SALES, SALES.
May 12th, 2008
@nonstopdeath
Have you ever played the socom games? if not the people dont play because the graphics are great they play because it has great gameplay. everthing isnt about graphics. look at the gta games on the ps2 those games looked like crap but they where the best selling games that generation.
May 12th, 2008
360 barely has anything to look forward to this year or next year. It’s just sad how ps3 has been outselling the 360 for 5 months, and really embarrassingly close to the 360. 13 Million for ps3 and 18 million for 360…..and the ps3 hasn’t even unleashed there big guns XD!
May 12th, 2008
I actually agree with winner…. (the comment before the one just above though)
I knew this would draw flaming. hehehe. No matter which consoles outsells the other. They ahve both sold a crap load of consoles and have more than enough good games to keep both sides of he fence happy…
GET OVER IT.
May 12th, 2008
do you honestly think socom looks like crap? maybe buy a nice pair of glasses. even xplay who is a ms fan site says it looks amazing which it does. bioshock is really the only 360 exclusive i personally would want for ps3. the exclusives ps3 will be rolling out over the next few months are some heavy hitters. any honest gamer would admit its awesomeness. eight days looks incredible. i have gta 4 and enjoy it but dont really see the need to PURCHASE dlc for a game thats already +50 hrs long not even counting multi player. it does start to get repetitive eventually so i dont see 360’s exclusive as being such a great thing. id rather be playing MGS or KILLZONE. finally, realize that over the life of your console (say 6 years) it will cost you $300 for online play alone! 360 is REALLY TWICE AS EXPENSIVE AS PS3. and without a blu-ray player. that gta dlc better be good, lol.
May 12th, 2008
@sandro:
LMAO that list of games is pathetic full of flops, lmao stop embarrasing yourself kid.
PS3 has the best graphics and games.
May 12th, 2008
this site is hilarious, pathetic but hilarious
May 12th, 2008
@Jonathan
Man will you get over the “Lair” reference!?! Shits getting old. Every site I go to I see Jonathan: “Lair… Lair… Lair. Well it was hyped up so I have the right to refer to it 50 fucking times.” Just face the facts that the PS3 isn’t doing as bad as everyone thought it was and that it’s creeping up on the 360. There comes a time when everyone must throw in the towel. At least you still get to play Dead or Alive: Boobie Bounce until you RROD.
May 12th, 2008
I find it hilarious that all the PS3 fanboys cry whenever you mention an Xbox 360 exclusive and every response is “Why would i want to play that game”, “That game sucks anyway”……I know for a fact that PS3 fans would give their right nut to play Gears of War & Gears of War 2 when it is released. MGS4 is the game which Sony are hoping carries the console until Resistance 2 and Killzone 2. The only good thing about MGS4 is the campaign….i watched videos on youtube and spoke to many PS3 owners about the MGO Beta and they all say that the online play is a mess, too many controls and not much structure to the gameplay. Before the PS3 fans cry, this is what i was told and what i saw from the gameplay. As for the people saying the 360 have no exclusives…..the only exclusives they need this year are…
Ninja Gaiden 2
Fable 2
Gears of War 2
& Alan Wake
May 12th, 2008
Genji is much better ninja gaiden.
better graphics
better gameplay
better physics
better story
better weapons
better bosses
not 4 hours long like ninja gaiden
ect.
x360 has no games lol its over xbots.
May 12th, 2008
F$%^K your a stirrer Xbot….funny though, they seem to take your bait.
May 12th, 2008
LMAO @ Xbot
If you can do Ninja Gaiden in 4 hours then your actually a gaming freak, but you cant…..Ninja Gaiden is a REAL game, one of the most intense action games on any console….the difficulty of the game alone stands out to be admired…..no game even comes close to the challenge set by that game……and Genji is gay
May 12th, 2008
yanno, i hate fanboyism but all you ps3 owners are so ridiculous. I OWN all the consoles and ill tell you what i play most; xbox360. xbox live is just superior compared to psn. ive had ALOT more fun on cod4 and gears online than that joke resistance. i use the ps3 to watch blu ray films and thats about it. i could count all the good ps3 exclusives with one hand morons ( and yeah, i will be enjoying them all ) but seriously, stop console bashing, idiots.
May 12th, 2008
Thats what sucks about ninja gaiden its generic barely moves 3 enemies on screen and Genji moves atleast 10.
Genji is much better in every single way.
May 12th, 2008
I was wondering why I never heard of Genji. I guess this review explained why.
http://au.gamespot.com/ps3/adventure/genji/index.html.
May 12th, 2008
That would be why Playstation fans were screaming for the game to be released on the PS2…
May 12th, 2008
Thank you winner
May 13th, 2008
Look at those Genji 2 pictures WOW!
a launch PS3 game looks and plays 3 times better then the only game the xbox 360 has left for 2008.
May 13th, 2008
LOL @ xbot. I love a good troll.
May 13th, 2008
FACT: XBOX has only one market…….the US!
FACT: Compare PS3 against XBOX 360 from launch………PS3 has a better start. In fact its 3 months ahead of the XBOX.
FACT: MS rushed the XBOX to market in order to get infront of the PS3 and look where it got them. A console that has a design flaw.
Thanks for making up the numbers XBOX but move aside the PS3 was always going to be the daddy.
May 13th, 2008
At the rate the ps3 is “outselling” the 360 in the U.S. this year, it should catch up in about, what, 7 - 10 years? lmao. Come on Sony, I loved ps1 and ps2, - give me a reason to buy a ps3! The 360 won me over with GAMES and a superior online experience. And those fanboys saying they can’t afford to pay roughly $4.25 a month (US) for it obviously can’t afford to buy $60 video games either.
May 13th, 2008
I dont say that 360 excflusives suck.. but then again.. Im not a fanboy… if I was then I wouldnt have my twice failed 360…
problem is… ACTUAL system sellers like Bioshock and Geow and Mass Effect (which were TONS better and more enjoyable and had more improvement… and had actually taken game to another level).. these games have been released on the PC… so… people who didnt have a 360 wouldve bought them… cept they can easilly buy em on a mediocre PC with a PCI E card or a 512 RAM….
or they could get it for free on Utorrent…
whereas games like Genji and MGS 4 and Killzone and Tekken… heavenly sword… uncharted… god of war (which are also good games) stay exclusive for the PS3… meaning people who want to play these games WILl have to buy a PS3.. no other way to play them…
I hope Bioshock 2 and Mass Effect 2 comes out for the PS3… so I can buy the originals… but for that to happen… they need to re-release Bioshock 1 and Mass Effect 1 on the PS3…
and Cliffy B (on the recent Geow teaser trailer) said that Geow2 is going to be 360 exclusive..
thats gonna shake things up… I hope Haze is as good as it looks…
May 13th, 2008
So many 360 games are also release on the PC.
If I get myself a decent video card, then I am officially own an xbox360.
RROd free.
May 13th, 2008
Just throw your 360 away. Blueray on 360 lol, i wouldnt buy that, prob break anyway. 360 is a money pit which is collected by microsoft. Justify why gas is great being expensive and watered down with ethanol to me now? Cause im sure the brainwashing didnt stop with the purchase of a 360. 360 is not dead but will be.
May 13th, 2008
Nah Larry, I just refuse to help line the pockets of MS.
May 13th, 2008
You are all lame ass geeks bickering about fawking game console, SHUT UP AND GO PLAY COD4!
May 13th, 2008
“The latest gears of war 2 trailer looks washed out and mediocre.
enough with the fps though,this game looks just like the 1st one boring”
I agree, starting with Haze, resistence2, killzone2, heck even mgs4 last trailer i have seen was like fps, besides i HATE the idea of hiding in a coner for 15/20 mins b4 i can down the bad guy, and as for gears of war it’s a 3rd person shooter not 1st.
“Nah Larry, I just refuse to help line the pockets of MS”
and I refuse to help line nthe pockets of sony.
May 13th, 2008
Love this ps3 (sony) website, just to start a flame war! Sony is still trying to dig out! as soon as hd dvd quit, blu ray sales have stagnated, and where is the proof that we must have blu ray for games??? dont give me any of this crap that mgs4 was “cut” down to fit on a blu ray disc, (another sony lie) mgs4 will be a shorter game than gta4- guarenteed! and after the game passes, whats to come from sony? home? come on people! everyone thinks that home will come out and destroy live? bunch of ingnorant kids!!! killzone was supposed to be the halo killer? lol and didn`t sony show a killzone in 2005 that was the greatest graphics ever, only to work on it another 2 years and still not have the same look? where is your new dual shock 3? I`ll just finish with what all you sony boys keep saying since 2005, wait, just wait, it`s comming! haha
May 13th, 2008
Amen to that
May 13th, 2008
@johnson,
go look at some of the anti Sony articles on this site…
Well the proof is:
- Project Gotham Racing 4: Developers had to cut part of the game out to fit on DVD9
- Assassian’s Creed: Developers had difficulty with DVD9 disc space
- Lost Odyessy on multiple discs, also Blue Dragon on multiple discs..
- Ghostbuster developer complained about Disc space
- Bourne Conspiriacy developers complained about DVD9 space and lack of Harddrive on all Xbox 360s.
May 13th, 2008
johnson - for some reason aussies really hate ms. this site is just representative of their hatred and ingorance. like aussies have any clout in determining the worldwide #1 position. lmao.
May 13th, 2008
Their loss . . .
What’s not to hate about Microsoft . . I mean, they gave us software, we should hate them.
And don’t get me started on that selfish Bill Gates, hording all his money to himself and not giving it up in mass amounts to the likes of Africa and other notforprofit organizations. He’s so EVIL!
May 13th, 2008
It is funny how PS3 fans become very defensive of their product and will spout any old nonsense to justify their choice. I mean look at the figures: xbox360: 121 Million software sales vs PS3 51 Million sales total.(http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly.php?date=39579&boxartz=1)
Clearly the sign of a dead format.
The 360 is dominating the PS3 sales of GTA4 for example, which makes sense if you look at the total number of software sales for the unit and the greater install base.
The PS3 is selling more consoles at the moment, but unlike the 360, where every console sale means a guaranteed sale of one or more games titles, it is hard to tell what the games attach rate for the PS3 is, as it is also selling as a Bluray player. It will be interesting to see if the sales figures of the PS3 will drop back to parity with the 360 once there are suitable standalone BLuray players on the market, which should happen in a few months time.
Get used to it guys, the PS3 will AT BEST achieve a 55-45 sales ratio to the 360 over the total lifetime of the consoles. Sony will never dominate the market again.
May 13th, 2008
no one is talking about hating microsoft… or questionaing Bill gates… you pathetic attempt at being satcastic is… well pathetic…
well if you hate aussies so much… why do you comment on this site kevin??? Im pretty sure Aussies dont hate MS… otherwise 360 still wounldnt have sold more units in Aus…
I gave you that proof you wanted… go back to that other topic…
May 13th, 2008
Newsflash for Jonathan, Bioshock is not a 360 exclusive, it’s available on the PC.
May 13th, 2008
Mike,
hey mike, i wouldnt be talking if i was you. your PS3 outputs picture fram per sec at 60Hz, Blue Ray players do it at 120Hz.
May 13th, 2008
sorry typo… it should be “sarcastic” not “satcastic”
May 13th, 2008
Newsflash for Josh . . .MS owns the PC as well.
Does it play on the Mac?
so really josh . . is there a big difference between PC or Xbox?
I can answer that - I would much rather sip a really poor tasting Foster’s on my couch in front of my 60″ TV, than sit at a keyboard and a really uncomfortable chair on my 22″ monitor.
so it may be PC, but that can’t compare to HK surround sound and a 60″ TV / Couch.
Plus, GOW sucked on PC compared to Xbox, that game is made for a controller, not a keyboard and mouse.
May 13th, 2008
raaaaaaaaaaight… MS “owns” PC….
I can just download Geow on my PC via utorrent… FOR FREE!! and MS doesnt get a dime… the same way I can buy the pirated version of Geow on my 360…
yeah geow was made for a controller… even thought the PC version had better graphics and extra levels…
May 13th, 2008
here is an example for all you PS3 fan boys, did you know that MGS 4 or 5, it took them 4 years to develop it. wow really cool
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6190827.html
May 13th, 2008
here is an example for all you PS3 fan boys, did you know that MGS 4 or 5, it took them 4 years to develop it. wow really cool, oh & then they go on saying that we will be making more exclusives like this. cant wait for for the next game in 2012 lol
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6190827.html
May 13th, 2008
First which game did not fit on DVD9. As far as I know so many complained and about the disk space and then microsoft came in and siad hey guys let me introduce you to compression and guess what they all fit. As for lost odyssey I own that game and I don’t mind the 4 disk it’s not like your changing them all the time. I kind of like it for a couple of reasons. Fisrt if your done with the disk you can lend it to someone who may want to try it while you continue on with the rest of the game. Second I have made a habit of only buying games with online as they have replay value. Only rearly do I buy a game without online unless the game is just that good that I gota keep it. Lost Odessey is one of those games for me and so is Bioshock. DMC4 was good but i don’t see the replay value. anyways I’ll get back to lost odessey. The 4 disk thing is kind of cool because it gives me a sence of even more value just because it on 4 disk. It makes the game feel even more special, I really can’t expalin it. I held the opinion on the multi disk games until I came across lost odyssey. I don’t care about the multiple disk thing anymore so I believe it is a real stupid argument.
May 13th, 2008
As for PG4 they never cut anything from the game. They said the changing of time will not fit and it did. Stop bringing up useless arguments they obvoiusley make no sence since it did fit on disk.
May 13th, 2008
dwh - Microsoft is one of the, if not THE, biggest pc gaming publisher. go away, noob…lmao..
May 13th, 2008
so?? is there any doubt that MS isnt BIG??
the thing is… if you have a decent PC… then you can play most of the “system sellers” of the 360… so people who liked Bioshock and Geow and Mass Effect wouldnt have to buy a console for it… they can play it on their mediocre PC… because if your PC can run Vista… it can run these games…
yes CAD… youre very special… like Special K… or the Special Olympics… the thing is…. all you 360 boys bitch about a 7min install on the PS3… and you have no problem changing disks for a game… thats pathetic and hippocritical…
May 13th, 2008
Sure you could Darkwhitehair,
but without the great Xbox live experience, it’s just another PC game. Rife with hackers and cheaters.
So that’s why I play consoles now, I was sick of morons on PCs using Wall hacks and autoaims.
Using the fact that MS makes it easy for Developers to create the same game for Windows that they did for Xbox, agaist MS somehow . . . is about as dumb as my run-on sentence.
People like you who don’t see the benefit of playing a game on a couch with three other people, and would rather sit with the other people crowded around your computer screen, are few and far between. To somehow miss the benfits of a console over a PC, socially, says a lot about a person.
But no - I remember back to the days of playing EA’s NHL 97 with my three bothers on PC. Two of us had game pads, two of us shared the keyboard . . that was great fun - but Consoles own that market now.
Also - the fact that Sony’s games aren’t coming out on the PC should give you pause, should make you say - “are they trying to control the market?” “Should I be worried about their tactics?” “Why won’t they release MGS4 onto PC?” “Why did they force their BD drive down our throats when it obviously has no benefit to games / gameplay?”
ooooh I know why, because the Cell processor is so amazing! No computer in the world could handle ANY PS3 port to it, cell is just that powerful. Imagine like 5 Crays . . . yeah, that is like 20% as powerful as one PS3.
May 13th, 2008
‘ ‘ dwh - Microsoft is one of the, if not THE, biggest pc gaming publisher. go away, noob…lmao.. ‘ ‘
So?
so far microsoft has produced nothing but huge flops.
May 13th, 2008
Xbox is 12, he goes to girls school with my sister.
May 13th, 2008
no one yet has explained by live is so much better then psn. wow i pay 50 bucks a year do something i could on a ps3 for free. yeah that makes it so much better
May 13th, 2008
Ninja-Killer,
The reason no one has explained why Live is “so much better” than PSN is because it isn’t. In terms of the number of features offered, Live wins easily as it offers a very robust service. However, what you’re paying money for (the online multiplayer) is no better than PSN, and with many games it is actually worse. If anyone cares to be objective and look into it with first hand experience, compare the first R6V on 360 vs. PS3. Less lag and less crashes on the PS3 version. Compare Halo 3 to Warhawk. Warhawk’s connection is far steadier and practically glitch-free, whereas Halo 3 online can be quite buggy and full of cheaters.
Of course, this is not always the case (GTA4), but it still serves as an interesting counterpoint to the legions of internet persons who, for some mystical reason, just seem to take it for granted that Live is “so much better.”
-Arvis
May 13th, 2008
Oh yeah Arvis - thanks for the independent viewpoint.
Why don’t you all just do me a favor real fast. Find me one review from a non ps3 fanbois website (therefore Blorge is excluded), that says “PSN is just as good or better than Xbox Live.”
No reviewer agrees with you Arvis. As nice as you may be, flat out lying isn’t nice.
May 13th, 2008
Xbot has a retraining order in 6 different states. He’s not allowed near any small children…
May 13th, 2008
PS3 has games?!?!?!….wouldn’t that take away from being a Blu-Ray player?!….
May 14th, 2008
How many first party Sony disivsions does it take to make a decent game? Nobody knows yet….trick question…..lol…im gonna watch the gears of war trailer again….
May 14th, 2008
xbox 360 has no games.
whats why its such a mega flop world wide.
May 14th, 2008
Kevin,
Aussies do not hate MS. I am an aussie and I have a 360. So do a lot of other aussies. There are more 360s in Australia than PS3s.
Xbot, you’re a goose. haha
May 14th, 2008
xbot is a xbot
May 14th, 2008
Is xbot ‘Ivan_PSP’ incognito? They sound awfully similar.
May 14th, 2008
i believe we should just buy a ps3.Better games, free internet, better hardware design/reliability and no ms nerds such as kevin .job done, good night god bless
May 14th, 2008
i believe we should just buy a ps3.Better games, free internet, better hardware design/reliability and no ms nerds such as kevin .job done, good night god bless
May 14th, 2008
bourne - riiight…let’s buy a ps3 so we can listen to darkwhitehair and ivan. great idea…
oh wait… most ps3 CAN’T listen to anyone…the ps3 didn’t come with a voicecom… wow…for $600 you’d think they’d throw one in…
“better games”? bwahahahahahaaaaa!!!!
May 14th, 2008
arvis - the proof is in the dollars. MILLIONS of more gamers CHOOSE to pay to use xbox live than those using PSN for “free”… you do the math.
the only ones who think psn is even on the same level as xbl are those who haven’t used xbl.
seriously. even the most ardent ps3 fanboys won’t try to compare psn to xbl’s feature set.
May 14th, 2008
dwh - console gaming and pc gaming are two completely different mediums. the fact you’re trying to blend the two underscores your desperation. nice job.
May 14th, 2008
arvis - before you claim the 360’s installed base is the reason for more aggressive online growth, remember, the xbox’s (last gen) use of xbl STILL outpaced the userbase of sony’s “free” online service on the ps2…with almost TEN TIMES more ps2 on the market than xbox.
May 14th, 2008
Kevin to be perfectly honest i dont live in the US so i wont spend $600 anyways. Secondly, i dont care about voice com anyways. I have a mobile phone to communicate in every way shape or form. Third seeing as the PS3 is the most powerful (FACT NOT MY OPINION) there is a better future for development. Besides the fact that people like you dont try and defend the undefendable. If you cant beat us, join us.
May 14th, 2008
bourne -the power of the ps3 is on paper,using theory. in realworld performance the 360 is easily the better gaming console of the two. what good is “most powerful” if the games don’t show it? none.
May 14th, 2008
What good is “most powerful” if in order to tap the power, one must spend 5X as long developing for it?
Developers want to make cash and have short turnovers, therefore long difficult programming will only lead to fewer games, not better games.
May 14th, 2008
developers have been developing games for the 360 longer then the ps3 the games should technically look better since they have more experience. its like driving a car u maybe really good at driving a worse car that is slower that you have had for a long time then a faster car that you just got
May 14th, 2008
Kevin,
Fortunately for me, the games I want on 360 don’t require Live for the full experience (Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey). If I cared at all about shooters, then I would pay money for Live as well. Why? Because I DON’T HAVE AN OPTION. “Ok, I bought Halo 3 for $60. Six hours later I’m done with the game, and I choose not to pay for Live, so…. I’m totally screwed. I guess I have to pony up…”
So basically the Live fee, in this example, is just a monthly fee to PLAY THE DAMN GAME YOU ALREADY PAID $60 FOR!
*breathes heavily*
Whoo. Ok. I feel better. I think I’m gonna go calm down with some Hot Shots Golf and listen to some Nickel Creek… ahhhhh…. so soothing…
-Arvis
May 14th, 2008
So Arvis, what games do you like? Looks to me like MGS4 is just another copy of Crysis / GOW / COD4 / SplinterCell . . . so those are primarily “shooters,” so you must not be waiting for that game . .
So that leaves home? You’re waiting for home to come out? Wow, what a sorry existance you must leave.
Let’s see - you like RTS games? Cause supreme commander is coming out for Xbox and ps . . oh no, nevermind, it’s just coming out for Xbox.
You like third person shooters? Cause Too Human is coming out for Xbox and PS . . oh no, it’s just coming out for Xbox.
You like kid’s games? Cause Banjo Kazooie is coming out for the Xbox and . . oh right, PS3 is assed out here too.
But HAZE is coming! oh crap, that’s a FPS.
I guess you’ll have a huge party when Home finally arrives. I might be in Austrailia in 2010, think I could come to your “Home” launch party?
May 14th, 2008
No the $60 is to pay for the extra servers that allow you to play GTA 4 without crashing the servers and download demos or content without having to leave you console on all night.
Sony never took online gaming seriously even the Dreamcast online service made a mockery of Sony’s reluctant attempt.
Sony didn’t embrace online gaming, their hand was forced by their rivals and it shows.
If it hadn’t been for the Dreamcast initially and then the Xbox, i doubt there would even be a PSN at all.
May 15th, 2008
XD johnathan is JUST like kevin..
like an old turd in a better wrapping paper…
read the Gamespot review of your Uber-Cool RTS Supreme Commander… it was pretty funny what the yhad to say about this “great” title
Too Human has been in developement for TEN YEARS… and then… they only have 2 player Co-op.. whereas Haze has 4 player co-op…
Banjo Kazooie?? never playd it.. but I liked Patapon and LocoRoco… I hope they are released on the PS3 as well.. though LocoRoco Cocorecho HAS been released for the PSN…
MGS is another copy of Crysis?? are you eriously retarded?? they are COMPLETELY different… Splinter Cell was invented AFTEr MGS… not before… though MGS’s controls has been modified for “western” gamers who bitched too much about the “horrible” controls…
console “gaming” and PC “gaming” are the same…. yes thats right kevin… I consider them to connected… because the whole Idea of console gaming is about getting “gamers” to buy their consoles by offering “exclusive” games…
why would “gamers” buy the 360 if its best games are out on the PC??
when you compare games… like Haze and Halo… and Killzone and Geow.. you should also compare Crysis and Halo… why not??
Lets see how much Halo has improved in the past years… and how much Crysis has pushed the limits of the FPS genre…
and I agree with Arvis’s comment… why is the “greatest game on the 360″ only 5 hours long??? that really pisses me off… when I pay for an original game.. I want to play it… I want some bang for my buck.. thank god I didnt buy the original…
May 15th, 2008
I hate this site. They must be using some form of subconscious mind control that keeps making me come back here. I dont want to come back but i keep coming back.
May 15th, 2008
Jonathan,
Actually, I am waiting for Home to come out… and I know I have a sorry existence, but you didn’t have to point it out…
At least I haven’t gotten so pathetic as to personally insult people over the internet. I pray it never comes to that…
But to answer your question, I like RPGs, racers, fighters, and “different” games that catch my interest. So I’m actually greatly anticipating LittleBigPlanet, White Knight Chronicles, Final Fantasy XIII (all 300 variations of it), Street Fighter 4, Tekken 6, Soul Calibur 4 and Gran Turismo 5.
I’m not HUGE on RTS games, but I do want to try out EndWar. And I like Supreme Commander on the PC because I am an old school Total Annihilation fan. But since I’ve already beaten it… I don’t really need it on a console.
But yeah, of course you can come to my Home launch party, provided you have a PS3 and Home. We can meet up and jump into a game of Warhawk sometime. Something tells me you’d be pretty good at that game.
-Arvis
May 15th, 2008
arvis - first, blame yourself for beating halo3 in 6 hours. next time don’t play on noob settings. try legendary, if you got the guts. not gonna happen in 6 hours sport. not by a looong shot.
secondly, Mass Effect has a new d/l chapter on xbox live available to those on ‘live. too bad you’re missing out. great game.
btw; you don’t play the exact same game on ‘live, noob. halo3 has multiplayer matches not available on halo3’s splitscreen mode. maybe if you ACTUALLY played the game, you’d know… but hey, it’s so much easier to lie, right?
May 15th, 2008
Mike Ferro - ms just hit 10 million in the largest market. you just got spanked!!! “shrinking”…lmao!!
May 15th, 2008
You have too much class for this site Arvis, it really ticks me off.
DWH . . .not sure what you’re talking about with Supreme Commander and “great game” . . . Gamespot gave it an 8.7 out of 10. They specifically say: “Steep hardware requirements; large battles can bring the most powerful systems to their knees.” Wow . . . interesting that it’s not going to be on the PS3 . . . since the PS3 is specifically mentioned in their statement “the most powerful system in the world.”
But the Xbox can handle it just fine.
Strange.
Arvis, I can’t agree more with how much fun total annihilation was - my brother used to beat two of us at a time and we couldn’t take him in it. I haven’t played supreme commander yet because I haven’t mortgaged any home to buy a PC video card for the last 5 years. . . Therefore my Geforce 4200 will not handle it I doubt. I gave up PC gaming cause I was sick of upgrading for $2000 every year. Instead I bought two Elites for $800 . . . that’s a $1200 savings and I now have two gaming systems.
May 15th, 2008
Kevin,
What? What the heck are you even talking about anymore? I know all about online multiplayer on Halo 3. It’s awesome and pretty much the only reason to own the game, which is why I said that paying for Live isn’t really a choice/option, since without it you don’t have much of a game.
…
So I guess you and I finally agree.
Jonathan,
Holy hell, a TA player. “And the judges came down, and they proclaimed Jonathan to be ‘awesome.’ And there was much rejoicing.”
If or when I get a 360 (possibly next year’s tax return) I’ll try and get my hands on a copy of Supreme Commander. And I’ll go ahead and let Microsoft deflower me for a chance to play online with a fellow TA junkie. Me and two of my friends in high school would download super-hard super-cheating AIs and see if we could team up to take them down. Some of the most truly EPIC gaming I have experienced.
However, I have to say it makes sense that SC would be a 360 exclusive on consoles since the 360 architecture is more like a PC than any other console. I can’t help but feel like “power” is less important here than “familiarity.” But I have no doubt that the 360 will be able to run this title at a pretty high spec.
-Arvis
May 15th, 2008
arvis - no, you said live was useless becuase you had to pay to play the “exact same game”.. prob is; online has different gameplay modes than what’s available alone, offline. it’s not the exact same game.
sorry, but i’ve played a LOT of h3’s campaign offline. I love trying to find the skulls, unlocking the varying modes.. i also love playing arcade mode for high scores. Both are high replayability factors offline… but i’m sure you just forgot to mention those….
May 15th, 2008
“Microsoft’s Xbox 360 sinking quickly in face of opposition from PS3 and Wii”
NPD data just in MS outsold Sony by a whisker, forgive me if i’m missing something but with a 6-7 million unit lead Sony need to shift a hell of a lot of hardware to even catch up with MS this generation let alone over take them and not being able to outsell the 360 in the biggest games market in the world is not a good start.
MS having a stronghold in the third largest market, the UK isn’t helping Sony catch up too quickly either, while they may catch up or possibly even overtake MS sometime in the full life span of this generation, they certainly don’t have the momentum at their current pace so all in all the statement “Microsoft’s Xbox 360 sinking quickly in face of opposition” doesn’t hold much water in the real world does it?
P.S I don’t dislike Sony, the PS3 or it’s users but i can’t stand those who spin the truth out of some kind of fanboy loyalty to their favorite corporation.
May 16th, 2008
@ Kevin: Nope, that’s not what I said. You are, as usual, totally wrong. In fact, I’ve never known you to be “right.” Just opinionatd and pig-headed. And all this is VERY important. I cannot allow somone to be WRONG on the INTERNET!!
@ Dan: If that’s the case, you’re not going to like 99% of the commenters on this site.
-Arvis
May 16th, 2008
kevin, +1, Achievements truly do extend gameplay and make a great game even better, allowing you to play it in many more ways than you normally would with added incentive. GTA IV is a shining example of this, and might even have something to do with it’s extra sales.
arvis, “which is why I said that paying for Live isn’t really a choice/option, since without it you don’t have much of a game.” Sorry to hear that. I’ve played shooters like Halo 3 and other genres offline and enjoyed them on the 360 for over two years now, and the Achievements add layers to the single player game that make it worthwhile. I respect your opinion, and I only speak for myself, but I do believe paying for Live is really a choice and that you can still enjoy the game immensely if you use the appropriate level and get the accomplishments available in game.
May 17th, 2008
Carl,
That’s a consolation prize and you know it. 90% of the reason to own a shooter is for the multiplayer (this has been true since GoldenEye on the N64). So without it, you’re essentially getting 10% of a game, which is why Microsoft knows they can sqeeze an extra $300 out of their users over the life of the console, and it’s also why the biggest games for the system are all shooters.
Still it’s good business. I pay $4 a month for my own customized radio station, so… I guess it’s all about where the individual user’s priorities are.
-Arvis
May 17th, 2008
Arvis, I am the rare one, and admit it… I never have liked online gaming on the PC or consoles, shooters or otherwise (never spent enough time to get really good at it either, nor wanted to)… too many cheaters and too many other games I want to move on to after the single player game is complete.
May 19th, 2008
Carl,
Ditto.
-Arvis
May 20th, 2008
@ PS3 fans - be glad the 360 exists, otherwise you’d still be paying through the nose for the console, and Sony would have little incentive to innovate
@360 fans - be glad the PS3 exist, otherwise you’d still be paying through the nose for the console, and MS would have little incentive to innovate
the best thing that can happen to the console market is if the 360 & PS3 remain roughly on parity for the duration of their lifespan. This will ensure that either side strives for the best possible product, keeps prices sensible & gives the consumer a CHOICE!