Details of PS4 revealed: Sony planning to beat Xbox 720

September 30, 2008

Details of PS4 revealed: Sony planning to beat Xbox 720 It looks like the PS4 is being developed much sooner than you or I may have thought, with a report indicating that Sony is currently designing the specs for the next generation console. The source also states that Sony will try to beat Microsoft to the punch next generation.

According to the source, a Japanese news agency, PC Watch Impress (Google Translated link), Sony Computer Entertainment is querying some ideas with the third party developers in regards  to the design of the PS4. The news report also indicates that the PS4 will be twice as powerful as the PS3.

Currently, by conventional computing standards the PS3 is the most powerful gaming console out on the market, capable of performing 2.0 teraFLOPS (trillion floating point operation per second). If that power was doubled, the PS4 would be capable of performing at an incredible 4.0 teraFLOPS.

The report also states that Sony is planning on utilizing the CELL BE instead of developing a completely new architecture. The reason for this change in strategy is so that Sony can stay competitive with the cost of development and to reduce the learning curve for third party developers.

With the billions invested into the research and development of Sony’s Cell processor, executives are adamant about reaping the benefits of the technology long into the future. A diagram in the news report shows how the Cell processor was shrunk from 90mm to 45mm, thus reducing manufacturing cost and power consumption by half.

Cell cell2

According to PC Watch Impress, Sony wants to get its next console out before the next Xbox iteration to prevent the type of lead Microsoft built up with its one year head start this time around. In order to do so, Sony is planning on getting the new development SDKs into the hands of all third party studios by 2011.

However, the actual PS4 may come out several years after 2011. Considering that Sony always overlap a few years in between consoles, that would put the PS4 in line to retire the PS3 eight to ten years into its life. Could this be the beginning of the fight for the future of the video game console supremacy between Microsoft and Sony? It will be interesting to see what kind of system Microsoft is currently planning for the next generation.



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65 Responses to “Details of PS4 revealed: Sony planning to beat Xbox 720”

  1. Arvis:

    Twice as powerful? Unimpressive, considering the PS3 is something like 20x as powerful as the PS2. I blame this squarely on Nintendo.

    -Arvis

  2. Matt:

    Arvis, you dont understand….. the ps3 is the MOST powerful…and now they are going to make new tech to double it….so it will be MOST powerful ever….or something like that

  3. Arvis:

    Matt,

    Which one are you: Reasonable Matt or Silly Fanboy Matt? Without this knowledge, I find myself somewhat incapable of properly responding to your rather elliptical diatribe.

    -Arvis

  4. Wylie:

    How much do you think that hand model got paid to hold that chip?

    It’s too early for me to even start thinking about the next consoles and how much power they will have. Sony isn’t known for rushing out their products, so I would have to see it to believe it. I for one won’t buy a new console if it is released too early. I’m not going to support these companies coming out with new consoles every 4 or 5 years.(if that’s what happens)

  5. Norm:

    I blame Arvis.
    LOL Sony says 10 years. Has anyone thought that may be a tactic to get MS to take their time releasing the next Xbox?

    Gees, I’m happy with my Wii but I got it for the kids. I’ll be getting a PS3 for myself later.

    The hell with the 360. To bad though. I would have picked the 360 if it wasn’t so unreliable.

  6. SW:

    Twice as powerful doesn’t sound that good I suppose. But I suspect Sony maybe have learned thier lesson after aiming so high and getting burned a little this time around.

    Either way, who knows how accurate this info is, maybe sony said 200 times as powerful, or 0.2 times as powerful ;)

  7. Royzy:

    “…capable of performing 2.0 teraFLOPS (trillion floating point operation per second). If that power was doubled, the PS4 would be capable of performing at an incredible 4.0 teraFLOPS.”

    Thanks Mike, I do struggle with them 2 + 2s.

  8. Bourne:

    Wylie get online mate, aint seen you in too long. Whats happened? You defected to X360?

  9. Bourne:

    And you Royzy!

  10. Wylie:

    yes, yes I did.

    I discovered that I liked Women, so I figured I should join the men and get rid of my PS3.

    So I did. I now have hair on my chest, my voice has actually dropped three octives, I don’t sing words anymore, and I have two girlfriends.

    It’s so nice now, I went out and got a really cheap copy of Bioshock, used . . .cause it’s been out so long . . But my gay friend who still has his PS3, he had to pay like $60 for last years game . . . crazy.

  11. Wylie:

    I lied! I love cocks!

  12. SW:

    He HAD to pay? Really? They use strongarm tactics these days and force you to buy games :|

    I’m glad I don’t go outside. Tis a scary place!

    Besides, are you saying that because a game was released last year, this year its lost its luster? Please explain how if someone purchases the PS3 version (who hasn’t played the 360/PC version) they somehow don’t enjoy the game as much? Or somehow the game doesn’t feel the same for them?

    Finally, gotta earn my pay from SCE Studio Liverpool.

    BUY WIPEOUT HD! (Zone mode makes me soil myself :( )

  13. harry sachz:

    LOL @ Royzy, I was thinking the same thing when I read that. You’ve got to love FERRO’s sensationalisation of Sony news.

  14. me:

    Who cares what CPU it has, they could put a supercomputer CPU in it and it would still suck without the GPU to back it up.

  15. DaveBG:

    Woooooooo, double the power of the PS3 based on it’s ancient Nvidia 7800/7900GS?

    Coooo.

    What’s that going to be then, a (by then equally) ancient Nvidia 8800GTS?

    Trinkets and stats for the fanboys, nothing more than PR fluff for the shallow of thinking.

  16. Ivan_PSP:

    Posers stop dick riding bitches. I know the PS4 is gonna destroy everything Xbox is not going to make it so no competition next gen xbox is dead. The PS4 is gonna be a brilliant marvelous jaw dropping mind blowing system can’t wait to get two. Microsoft=failure

  17. Mike Ferro:

    @Royzy,
    lol, I know it seems redundant, but its a cookie cutter approach.. if it was 62x more powerful and I said 124, you probably wouldn’t have noticed. ;)

    @harry,
    come on, be fair I don’t recall you complaining when I “sensationalize” how wonderful Microsoft’s business model or Xbox Live is.

    It is what it is.

    ——————————————–
    Currently Playing:

    LittleBigPlanet Beta – Fun!

    SOCOM Beta – Slow loading time, aiming needs some improvement.

    Starwars Force Unleashed – Much better then the the impression the demo gave me..

    Mass Effect – Re-playing in attempts to complete all assignments.. scanning all the keepers in the Citadel is a pain…where is that 21st one? hmm…

    *Expect a review of The Witcher Enhanced Edition soon.

  18. Bourne:

    How on earth do you get selected for beta testing?! I play my PS3 at least an hour n half each day (im unemployed at the mo, just waiting on a job interview on friday) and i must be clocking up the hours, not like im unloyal to Sony , really starting to piss me off.

  19. phranctoast:

    It seems like a good idea to keep using the cell. More and more developers are getting the hang of it, and development tools will have streamlined the processes way before this hits the shelves.

  20. Norm:

    Tell the truth Mike, you added it up for the 360 fans because if they are dumb enough to buy one then they must need the help to add.

  21. Wylie:

    Bourne & SW- that wasn’t me above. That was the same guy who likes to steal Ivan’s name. Again, blorge needs to do something about that guy. And no, I did not buy a 360.

    Bourne- I’ve been a little busy lately, but I think the main problem is we live on different continents and we keep missing each other due to the time difference.

  22. Bourne:

    Fair enough. well as some other PSN users on Blorge have found, i’m addicted to MGSO, its my own COD4 and you’ll generally see me playing it when i’m online.

  23. kev:

    awesome news for ninty and ms. sony hasn’t learned a thing. this piece will no doubt launch with a similar price as the ps3 and fall into oblivion like the ps3 is doing now. what good is all that power if it doesn’t translate to better gaming? the ps3′s inclusion of bluray and the cell hasn’t proved any benefit to gamers, and in fact, has hindered their ability to even make a dent in their ps fanbase.

    ninty PROVED you don’t need teraflops to provide stellar gaming…. price trumps teraflops any day.

    the ps3 fanboys forget the 360′s first to market approach was also supported by waaaay more games than the ps3 at launch, a more comprehensive online infrastructure and better affordability.

    first to market won’t help sony as long as they keep trying to sell “super computers” to gamers.

    sorry…

  24. Rimmer:

    I think it is a smart move from Sony – this would allow them to release the PS4 a lot earlier & cheaper, as the development costs should be minimal, and coders should have plenty of time to perfect the coding for it with the experience garnered on the PS3. If they are smart, they would allow for a scalable architecture, where the same game could run on both the PS3 and with higher resolution & better graphics, on the new PS4. This is a similar development model to the PC. Then Sony will finally have the killer console on their hands that the PS3 was meant to be in the first place.

  25. Wylie:

    Kev- you know better than to buy into this hype. This is all rumour and I don’t see the PS4 first to market, won’t happen. You like to shove Sony’s delays in our face, why would this be any different?

    “ninty PROVED you don’t need teraflops to provide stellar gaming…. price trumps teraflops any day.”

    I hope what you meant to say was stellar sales, not stellar gaming. Sony is usually about advancements in electronic technology, I don’t see them going backwards with the PS4, even if Ninty has plowed a new path in gaming or was the Wii the same as the Tickle Me Elmo phenomenon?

  26. phranctoast:

    @kev..I dont know which part of your post to attack first, since its all over the place with what sounds like wishful thinking.

    “awesome news for ninty and ms. sony hasn’t learned a thing. this piece will no doubt launch with a similar price as the ps3 and fall into oblivion like the ps3 is doing now. what good is all that power if it doesn’t translate to better gaming? the ps3’s inclusion of bluray and the cell hasn’t proved any benefit to gamers, and in fact, has hindered their ability to even make a dent in their ps fanbase.”

    This is being compared to the Nintendo way where thay hardly upgrade the hardware. Saying they didnt learn a thing is stupid, when it would seem like they are learning the cheap way from nintendo. It seems like they are being cost effective by doing this eliminating your other point.
    Do you really believe by the time this comes out developers are not going to understand the cell. They seem to finally be getting it now. recent Multiplats loom identical and exclusives blow other shit out of the water.

    Blu ray and the cell will be considered cheap by the time this is out. They have been doing a great job reducing the price lately with that technology.

    “the ps3 fanboys forget the 360’s first to market approach was also supported by waaaay more games than the ps3 at launch, a more comprehensive online infrastructure and better affordability.”

    btw..360 had the same problems when it came out as the ps3 did. Lack of games. I dont know what false reality you were in the end of 05-most of 06 but the 360 had its problems with getting games out there. I could name on one hand all the great games that came out before gears (nov 06)

    As for online infrastructure…your right Sony had none. they do know though. MS had 5 years on them. I believe sony is doing a good job catching up. MS has already tried and copy some of their ideas so they must be doing something right.

  27. Bourne:

    Kev – i thought we lost your opinionated bile! thankgod its back. We were cannibalising Ivan_PSP.

  28. Ivan_PSP:

    OMFG If the next DREAM aka PS4 utilizes the Cell Broadband Engine that means that it will be %100 backwards compatible with PS1 PS2 and PS3 can you say HELL YEAH or what. That would definitely be an impressive great achievement i meant great Trophy LoL. Kaz Hirai must be on pressure since Ken Kutaragi the creator of the greatest gaming system on the universe is no longer handling the hardware creation anymore of PlayStation. Twice the the power of the PS3 is a big task. I guess this will make Sony most advanced super high tech company. If the Xbox 360 can make to the next gen i can’t wait to see what Microsoft comes up with. Also Nintendo damn I’m excited. Good Luck to all three PS3 more.

  29. Branden:

    I don’t think that this proves a PS4,

    because we have the 45nm manufacturing technology now, by 2011 we my have 22.25nm tech, I think this is more proof for a slimline ps3 that is slightly more powerful, smaller and because of the less heat generated from the cells it would would have smaller fans due to less heat smaller fans means less noise

  30. harry sachz:

    Well said kev!

    But stating fact and an opinion that makes perfect sense is like beating your head on a brick wall at this site. A proven superior list of games and online features is always challenged by the word ‘potential’.

    Wake up and smell the roses PS3 fanboys, your machine has been out for 2 years and so far has not been the amazing machine you all hype it up to be.

    The proof is in the pudding, you are all excited for a game that lets you play with dolls!

    Ooohhh i’m going to dress my sackboy up as Kratos!….. please, just buy yourself a Cabbage Patch Kid, they’re cheaper.

  31. harry sachz:

    @ FERRO,

    Oh please! You post 2 fair articles about the 360, and you think you’ve balanced your articles up? You are just as biased as you have always been.

  32. me:

    “recent Multiplats loom identical”

    HaHaHa, that’s probably the funniest thing I’ve ever read here.

  33. Ivan_PSP:

    harry sachz:
    Shut your bitter gay ass already you a fool. Just because you don’t have a PS3 wow. Lucky i own the Xbox 360 and PS3 proud owner. PLAYSTATION 3 kick ass if you don’t see that well you need help. I know i worship everything Sony but that’s because they make technology that other people dream of. Xbox 360 is dated just ask game developers. Most PS3 games cannot be done on Xbox 360. The only thing i like about Microsoft is the cheap security to hack the Xbox. Also i like Windows even though is clutter with useless things. Xbox 360 just got Fable II and Gears of War 1.5 for this year. PS3 is gonna beat the shit outer Xbox 360 no doubt.

  34. harry sachz:

    Ivan,

    You truly are an idiot…

  35. phranctoast:

    @harry sackz.

    I’d like to wager that if LBP doesn’t receive more nominations and wins from more respected video game media sources than any 360 game you could name for this year I will never post on this site again.

    Of course the same rules must apply to you.

  36. harry sachz:

    phanctoast,

    As I said, you can go and play with your dolls.

    So tell me, what are you going to dress yours as? I know! How about you dress yours up like Barbie, and Ivan dress his up as Ken, and you can go on e-dates together!

  37. harry sachz:

    As if I am stupid enough to take that wager! It more than likely will get a lot of ‘praise’, as we’ve seen recently that the hype machine determines the game score in most cases.

    Case in point, GTA IV. Sure it’s a good game, but is it really worth 10/10?? It was hyped beyond belief, and the reviewers were all caught in it.

    Another one, MGS4. A game where you spend more time watching cutscenes rather than playing. That was not worth the 10/10 it got. Again, reviewers were caught in the hype.

    An example of the non-hype machine – Too Human. A lot of people had already judged the game dead on arrival before it was even released for really lame reasons, e.g not liking Denis Dyack. Reviewers were influenced by this and gave it a lower score than it deserved. It was by no means a classic, but it was a great game with a lot of replay value (i’ve clocked it 3 times now and am still not bored of it). It probably deserved around an 8/10, rather than the 6.5 etc that it was getting.

    So in saying that, your little dolls game will probably get high scores, whether it is deserved is another question.

  38. horatio:

    Don’t be so sure harry. First review of lbp is in, 7 out of 10.

    Reviewer said that it looks pretty, but lacks longevity. Level creation tools are crude and take too long to build. Reviewer said that the game was not fun to play.

    Sorry boys, maybe resistance 3 might be good? Don’t hold your breath for killzone 2, it looks like a grey and green slow motion piece of crap.

  39. Ivan_PSP:

    horatio:
    The review was 10/10

    Reviews
    [hide] Reception
    Review scores
    Publication Score
    Official PlayStation Magazine (UK) 10/10[46]

    The first major publication to review LittleBigPlanet was the UK edition of PlayStation Official Magazine. In their November edition they gave the game a score of 10/10[46].

  40. Ivan_PSP:

    Resistance 2 Looks great Killzone 2 looks jaw dropping amazing they will both be killer apps truly must have. Killzone 2 runs fantastic you just a hater. Gears of War 1 was %100 color Grey.

  41. phranctoast:

    @horatio.
    you seem to be overlooking all the praise the beta is receiving and only concentrating on the negative.the first review of the beta..hence..unfinished game. There are still bugs because its an old build. playing the beta now (unfortunately at a friends…cuz I couldn’t get in), and Ill tell you from my experience this game will be a classic. If the reviewer doesn’t want to build a level they don’t have to. If the game sells 1 million and only 5% of the people build levels..you will have 50,000 new levels to play, aside from the 50 that come on the disc. That seems like Longevity to me.

    @harry,
    Ill concede with gta since you are right. it was overhyped. Like all gta’s the presentation and story were awesome, but it lacked in some areas (gameplay namely) that would doom other games…. but…gta is untouchable!

    MGS4 however is awesome in all respects. you can even skip the cut scenes if they’re too much for you. My biggest problem with you commenting on MGS4 is I know you don’t have a ps3 and therefore an opinion for an exclusive. Sort of how I’ll keep my opinion of Too Human to myself.

    hype machine*rolls eyes* people are playing it now. Its getting plenty of time for them to form an opinion.

    you could quit it with the doll house analogy. You making yourself look a hell of a lot more immature than me.

    wont take my wager?
    kind of ironic that “harry sachz” has “no balls”. ;)

  42. kev:

    wylie – i don’t think sony would be that stupid to start bragging about first to market this early only to fail. the price is still the hurdle they won’t be able to overcome. The ONLY saving grace is the fact bluray drives will be a fraction of what they are now in costs, but with Toshiba owning the Cell manufacturing, you can bet they won’t be helping sony on the cost. What you ps3 fanboys forget is the fact that the “cell” is a networking architecture, NOT optimized for gaming, thus why the 360′s architecture is better for gaming at half the cost.

    it’s even funnier watching the other ps3 fanboys claim ninty has no “fun” games, while the wii outsells the ps3 by HUGE margins… and who’s buying? yep… GAMERS. this says more about the fanboy’s inabilty to distinguish their own tastes from the rest of the world.

    bourne – call it “opinionated bile” if you want (since that’s the only retort you really have) but the proof is in the ps3′s business model. the ps4 looks to follow suit, with a price to match, but somehow it’ll be different.

    someone once defined insanity as doing the same thing over and over with hopes of different results. this is to be no different as sony is about to find out.

    if the ps3 was truly the “value” you sony-paid schills like to say it is; it wouldn’t be falling farther into last place as it is…

  43. kev:

    phranctoast- read my above post. it’s funny you claim prices will reduce while promising at LEAST twice the power of the ps3. how’s the weather in fantasyland, btw?

  44. phranctoast:

    @kev.

    I read your post..but your still wrong.

    the only thing you said correct in your post was the the cell is not manufactured by toshiba. (Sony IBM and Toshiba developed it however) and Blu ray will be significantly cheaper.

    PS2 to PS3 spec comparison was somewhere along the line of 20X more powerful. a bit more than 2x, and makes sense why theres such a price differential.

    If you spec out the gamecube to wii, its almost twice as powerful. closer to 1.5X and most people consider it just like a gamecube.

    I claim prices will reduce, because by 2011 the cell tech will be a lot more cost effective. I’m having difficulty understanding how you don’t get that!!

  45. DSM:

    I love PS3 owners. They run their mouths like little 5’5″ Italian midget tough guys–always talking about what they’re GONNA do, and never doing it.

    Just like their system of choice.

  46. Wylie:

    Kev- it wasn’t Sony bragging, it was PC Watch Impress with that story. There is no link so I haven’t read that article. However this article never states that anyone from Sony said they were planning on being first to market. They probably aren’t far off on a the time for the PS4 though. More than likely we will see it in 2012 or 2013. Just my thoughts anyways.

  47. phranctoast:

    @DSM

    just stay under your bridge until someone crosses.

  48. Arvis:

    Kev,

    I don’t know any gamers that bought a Wii. My mom did, my roommate did (he’s a casual, just plays for the Marios and Zeldas and nothing else), and a 12 year old in my congregation got his parents to buy him one. But all my gamer friends own PS3s and 360s.

    -Arvis

  49. harry sachz:

    Oh i’ve got balls, i’m just not an idiot to take such a one sided wager. And I never said ‘doll house’, I said ‘Dolls’, unless Little Gay Planet has doll houses too? Oh wait, that’s Home.

    LOL @ DSM. Spot on!

    Kev, reasoning with a guy like that is impossible. I say let him live in his fantasy, dressing up his sackboy doll. We’ll be getting a harem of wives in Fable 2, kicking zombie ass in Left 4 Dead, kicking locust ass in Gears of War 2 and maybe even causing havoc in Fallout 3 (not exclusive, but shall kick ass).

  50. phranctoast:

    @harry.

    Apparently you don’t have balls. Dolls..Doll house…your the last person that should play with semantics. You even had the gall to try and play list wars, yet have no belief in said games enough to wager (they are all great games.look forward to L4D on PC). Every post is simply filled with argumentative points, which is the retard way of arguing a said fact. In fact…you simply are the retard of retards.

    reasoning with me is impossible. Well…try reasoning. all you did is spew shit and make fun of LBP. how is that reasoning? At no point did you reason with one of my many points. Maybe if I give my self a lobotomy and smash my head against some concrete I’ll be able to respond on your level of thinking.

    This Fall/winter I have so many games to choose from Ill only be able to play the online ones for now (Resistance 2, LBP, SOCOM, FarCry2) leaving the single player titles that I’m really looking forward to, to a time when there’s more of a drought (Bioshock, Motorstorm 2, fallout 3, Deadspace, Tomb Raider, and Prince of Persia)

  51. harry sachz:

    Ooohh making fun of someone’s intelligence and calling them a retard when they’re obviously not one. Nice to see you’re willing to stoop to that level. Shame that I have enough class to not do the same back to you.

    And I was actually sending that message to kev, not you, so how would that be ‘list wars’, seeing that we both own the same machine? Would you like some salt with that foot?

    But you know what? I’m a fair person. I am interested in Resistance 2, so I am not a blind fanboy like Ivan. I am just gobsmacked that teenage boys and grown men are so excited to play with dolls!

  52. Matt:

    @ Arvis

    “Matt,

    Which one are you: Reasonable Matt or Silly Fanboy Matt?”

    That was Silly Fanboy Matt.

    Reasonable Matt is here to say that when you get so close to realistic, 20x as much power means a VERY small difference in how realistic the game can be. With no change in medium, the game is just as big. More power means little.

    Sony not beefing up the PS4 that much is a good move. It’s pointless to increase the power more for such small gains in games.

  53. harry sachz:

    Wow, i never knew that about myself…. hmmm

  54. phranctoast:

    you have the class however to write stuff as me *rolls eyes*
    still waiting for IP bans to be handed out.

    I’ve been very fair on this site. At no point could I ever be compared to Ivan.

    I’m also very fair to the 360. Read my past posts. I’ve credited them when due, have no problems with their games, I just loathe MS and their view on competition.

  55. Wylie:

    phranctoast- when it comes to Harry, if you say one bad thing about the 360 you are a bias PS3 fanboy. He doesn’t understand that we do see the 360 advantages, we just wanted a system that has advantages in different areas. I know Sony is far from perfect, but I also loathe MS as you do. Maybe if Sony was in my backyard and I saw their business practices everyday I would loathe them instead and own a 360.

  56. pfreak:

    I know a lot of people with a Wii but not one that’s a gamer. I had a huge fat girl just yesterday saying she’s getting a Wii to “play” Wii Fit so she can lose some weight. Yeah, big time gamer. Just a fatty pig fatty who will have a dust covered Wii. I love Nintendo but the Wii is a pile of shit and the 1st console from N that I didn’t buy.

  57. harry sachz:

    hahaha again you’re accusing me of being the imposter! Yes, ban the IP of the imposter, you’ll will see that I will still be here!

    And Wylie, that is far from true, but then again, I didn’t expect you to be what we call ‘fair’.

    Case in point, SW. He is what I call a fair person because he posts his shit right down the middle. He doesn’t go on about loathing a company etc.

    Loathing a company reeks of fanboyism. Seriously, they’re a company, and companys want to make money. Why the loathing?

    You can suck each other’s dick as much as you want, I know I am right, and no amount of cock gobbling is going to change that fact.

  58. phranctoast:

    I need a man. Bourne, wanna be bffs?

  59. kev:

    arvis, pfreak – the fact you don’t know anyone with a wii is moot. it’s outselling all competition. maybe you just need to meet new gamers.

    then again, wii gamers tend to be the more casual gamers, and contrary to what you fanboys like to believe, it’s NOT the hardcore that sustains a console’s lifecycle. it’s ALWAYS been the casual gamer. this is why console’s sweet spot is the $199 price point. hardcore gamers don’t care what the price is; as proven by the pc gaming nerds who don’t blink at dumping $2,000 USD to play the latest twitch fest….

  60. kev:

    wow…looks like the ps4 is merely an evolution from the ps3 to save sony money.. it’s gonna use the ps3′s cell… omg…

    congrats sony fanboys… you get 5-7 year old technology in your ps4… LMAO…

    http://www.product-reviews.net/2008/10/01/sony-playstation-4-to-use-ps3-cell-processor/

    good luck with that… :)

  61. Ivan_PSP:

    The next generation will be PlayStation 4 and maybe Nintendo’s new Console. Microsoft has lost so much billion on the Xbox already that’s it might make shareholder say hell no.

  62. Arvis:

    Kev,

    Did you just…. post “news” about the news that THIS article already talked about?

    And anyways, when did I ever say I don’t know anyone with a Wii? I said I don’t know any GAMERS with a Wii, but I believe I even listed many people close to me who do own said console.

    -Chris

  63. togenshi:

    Umm…ok. Think some of you should realise this is an article and not a forum. You seriously must be the dirt of the human gene pool to troll a freaking news article.

    Though i should welcome the Cell BE CPU and it was a smart call to head in the PPC direction. Since microsoft is pretty much screwed in choosing a suitable CPU in the next generation (IBM has gone anti-MS), the Cell BE would make life easier for everyone. Not only that, it would give Sony a chance to reclaim investment even though abit is injected to get additional functionalities.

    Think this is a marketing ploy against microsoft as they are planning for their next console. I think microsoft would head towards a x86 direction and snag a fusion cpu from amd or something. Either way, this generation is only getting started.

    I dont think the wii2 will sell as well as it did in this generation. I got a feeling that the same marketing wont apply twice.

    But seriously, stop freaking trolling a news article. Its weak and unnecessary. If you really want to troll, ask blorge.com to create forums for you guys. >.>

  64. kev:

    arvis – what person would own a wii, that wasn’t a gamer? are you that ignorant? are people and “gamers” two different things? get some sleep, sport. you’re delusional…

  65. Arvis:

    Kev,

    I know you’re never going to read this, but since you managed to break your personal record for stupidity in one post, I felt the need to respond.

    I know a woman in her late 30s who is a teacher and has never been interested in video games. She played Wii Sports at a party and bought herself a Wii a week later. She has never purchased a game for it. Is this woman a gamer to you, Kevin? Are you going to argue that my mom is a gamer as well, since she bought a Wii? Lay off the LSD, sport. You’re hallucinating…

    -Arvis

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