Xbox 360 head Greenberg actually wrong - Blu-ray doing just fine
By Mike Ferro
Recently, Xbox 360 product manager, Aaron Greenberg, indicated in an interview that the Blu-ray is not the future. He also goes on to take stabs at Sony for some of its decisions regarding the PS3.
Greenberg stated in an interview with Major Nelson, that the Blu-ray is no DVD. He also indicated that the Blu-ray format could be the next UMD. I assume he is attempting to correlate UMD as a failed format for movies. An odd comparison considering that the UMD is a Sony PSP-only format. I assume you could also say then, that the Nintendo DS cartridge is a failed format as well.
Greenberg said:
“We have no plans to integrate Blu-ray into the Xbox experience, ..We believe that we shouldn’t force consumers to pay for things they don’t want. We also believe that the future’s digital, and that’s why we’ve invested in a massive library of entertainment content.”
This supports my recent story detailing how Microsoft’s nickel and dime business practice is financially savvier than Sony’s model. However, the part about offering consumers more options probably wasn’t what Microsoft had in mind as Peter Moore recently confirmed that the decision to release an Xbox 360 model with no hard drive was based on the extreme desire to bring the Xbox division into the black.
He also said:
“No one knows what Blu-ray will be. It’s pretty clear it is not the next DVD, right? The days of one physical format being the standard are gone… Let’s say right now we’re not sure if it’s the next UMD or the next DVD.”
Apparently, analysts and vendors are stating that Blu-ray is definitely no DVD; in fact, according to them, it is actually doing much better than the DVD did 11 years ago. Analysts report from Format War Central, that the Blu-ray format has picked up 145.68% week over week with the release of Iron Man which took a huge 17% of total movie disc sales.
Reuters also reported that optical equipment parts manufacturer, Singulus Technologies, estimated that the Blu-ray format acceptance is much greater then that of the DVD 11 years ago. Singulus also stated that the demand for Blu-ray is about two times more than that of the DVD 11 years ago.
I suppose the Blu-ray acceptance rate doesn’t translate well to our Internet -induced ADD mentality. In an ever increasing connected world, consumers want instant gratification and action. Only time will tell how successful Blu-ray will be. However, with the US switching to HD sometime in 2009, Blu-ray’s success seems inevitable.
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October 12th, 2008
He is definitely bitter everyone adore Bu-ray. Microsoft just doesn’t add Blu-ray because is afraid.
October 13th, 2008
OK Mickey, Lets put things back in perspective. Boy you can let you imigination run wild. The difference between a DS Cartridge and UMD is that the DS Cardridge was made for 1 thing, DS Games. UMD was made to be a format widely accepted for other media like Movies. Kind of like it’s cousin Bluray.
October 13th, 2008
UMD is sold for the PSP only…… I don’t know of any other UMD players, do you CAD ?
October 13th, 2008
@CAD,
looks like your the one that let your imagination run wild.
In 2004, UMD was developed specifically for the PSP in mind. It was never intended to replace the DVD considering the quality of a UMD is sub par for regular television. (If you own a PSP with video out, you will know what I am talking about)
The video is compressed to fit on an 1.7 - 1.8GB UMD disc.
Hence, you will not find a standalone device made by Sony or any other third party that plays UMD.
Sony announced plans to bring movies out in 2005 on the UMD format, shortly after that Nintendo revealed they were also looking into releasing movies on the DS cartridge as a counter measure.
http://www.mediacenterpcworld.com/news/251
However, Nintendo’s plans did not take off.
Im a purist technophiles, so it irks me a little when I see people making ignorant statements like that.
October 13th, 2008
Blu-ray is doing just fine, i struggle to get my copies of movies from places like blockbuster now as they sell out (and yes they buy more copies on blu-ray than they do on dvd) so i get mine from amazon now. I own 105 blu-rays and my friends have loads too. No one i know has a 360 anymore, the ones that did have traded for ps3. Blu-ray is noticably bigger than dvd was when it came out and will be the standard soon just wait and see. MS will regret bitching about it
October 13th, 2008
Right, That is why People critized the UMD and called it a failed format. In line with the rest of their failed formats Mini-Disk, ATRAC, and Betamax. Bluray is currently on life support. That’s why Sony added Movie dowloads to PS3 in case plan D fails. Talk about having no faith in your product.
October 13th, 2008
The PS3 video service isn’t a show of no faith in blu-ray. The idea is to steal away business from Blockbuster and Netflix.
October 13th, 2008
Whatever I am watching transporter 2 right now on my 52inch 1080p aqous sounds like you wish you had a bd player or the money to get one. Fact is you downloading is way far off if you want to wait then thats your choice! the fact I can watch it now and later download it if the internet gets much better in the future is great. I can tell you right now my 10mb download speed takes forever for a standard sd download right now. imagine 50gb downloads!!!! enjoy waiting my friend your life will go by way to fast if all you do is dream about the future.
October 13th, 2008
“Right, That is why People critized the UMD and called it a failed format. In line with the rest of their failed formats Mini-Disk, ATRAC, and Betamax. Bluray is currently on life support. That’s why Sony added Movie dowloads to PS3 in case plan D fails. Talk about having no faith in your product.”
UMD was only supported by ONE device. And it is only a failed format for movies…not games. You also fail to mention Sony’s products that didn’t fail. cough cough…walkman…..CD..DAT….DVD
Downloads will only succeed as a rental format. Most people I know like to have the physical media they bought to own.
Downloads will only succeed as a rental format. Most people I know like to have the physical media they bought to own.
“I suppose the Blu-ray acceptance rate doesn’t translate well to our Internet induced ADD mentality. In an ever increasing connected world, consumers want instant gratification and action. Only time will tell how successful Blu-ray will be. However, with the US switching to HD sometime in 2009, Blu-ray’s success seems inevitable.”
EPIC WIN
October 13th, 2008
I dont see why all the sony fanboys are getting upset:
“No one knows what Blu-ray will be. It’s pretty clear it is not the next DVD, right? The days of one physical format being the standard are gone… Let’s say right now we’re not sure if it’s the next UMD or the next DVD.”
a) UMD was a failure theres no denying that, DVD was a success. he is acknowlding that sonys formats have been hit and miss, and hes not sure if bluray will be a dvd or umd/minidisc.
b) One physical format have gone as you all point out it takes time for formats to catch on as it did with dvd, and by then we will see faster connection speeds and people will chose to download. And is it not a fact people said the same about itunes? “it wont take of people will want to own the actual disc”?
October 13th, 2008
He’s right.
Blu-ray is not DVD and comparisons with DVD’s early days are ridiculous.
We now have a market totally familiar, comfortable with & used to disc-based media for a start.
The coming recession & Blu-ray’s still high pricing means that ever improving upscaled DVD is the real mainstream future.
Blu-ray is the new Laserdisc.
Niche & high margin.
Nothing wrong with that but claims it is going to spread to the mass-market are just laughable.
Satellite & cable offering HD TV all the time as well as VOD via a nice DVR are the winners this time.
Blu-ray simply cannot be ‘the next DVD’ as (as Aaron Greenberg rightly points out) that market is now so fractured it is never coming back.
October 13th, 2008
…..oh and btw, Sony was a very junior part of CD.
Philips invented that one, primarily.
The same can be said of DVD.
DAT wasn’t a failure?!
Where (outside of professional recording) was it ever a success?
October 13th, 2008
While you idiots are arguing for your digital downloads and your HD Streams (not true HD, mind you, maybe 1080i with huge amts of compression) from Netflix and Comcast. I’ll be enjoying my BR player, and my 47″ 1080p TV. I buy nothing but BR now. No point in getting DVD’s.
Basically, it comes down to, if you’re easily convinced by spokesmen from a major corporation who only wants your money, then you’ll believe Aaron’s inflammatory statements. If you’re an intellectual person who reads the news and actually thinks for themself, you’ll know that effective, wide-scale digital distribution is still years away, physical media is here to stay for at least another 5. BR, may not be flawless, but it’s damn pretty and does what I need it to do
Morne
October 13th, 2008
“We have no plans to integrate Blu-ray into the Xbox experience, ..We believe that we shouldn’t force consumers to pay for things they don’t want. We also believe that the future’s digital, and that’s why we’ve invested in a massive library of entertainment content.”
Lol, responding to the last sentence; You believe in dital distribution over Blu-Ray Disc tech, yet Sony is also leading in that field, as well as BD… Warhawk, WipEout, Burnout Paradise and many more; great example of how they say they believe in something, though their competition is succeeding in both fields (what they believe in and what they dont believe in) greater than them…
I’m awfully confused by Microsoft sometimes. ;P
October 13th, 2008
You can get the fastest internet in the world, if the companies don’t let you use the broadband it won’t matter. Some companies are putting limits on downloads already. Maybe downloads will be in the future, but not the immediate future. Let’s face it, blu ray is better than a download. Why by an expensive HD TV and then play downloads on it?
October 13th, 2008
I would say that Laserdisc would be a more accurate comparisson (although even that is not very accurate). Bluray supports seem to forget that higher quality is never a deciding factor for the mass market, convenience is. That is the main reason why people switched from VHS to DVD, and have adopted the MP3 format in droves. People don’t buy HD screens because it offers higher resolution, they buy them because they offer larger screens in a smaller, thinner, cheaper package vs CRT. On the other hand what does Bluray offer the average punter? better sound quality? big deal - DTS MAster Audio running through a TV speaker or a £100 speaker set is going to sound no better than dolby digital. Higher picture quality? great for enthusiasts, everyone lese couldn’t care. It is not as if dvd owners around the world are complaining about poor picture quality, and wishing somebody would offer something better. Greater interactivity? Now here we are talking about a possible convenience improvement over DVD, except for the fact that the BluRay player profile debacle means that this is out of the window. What you are left with is a format that is still more expensive, less convenient due to harsher DRM and uncracked region coding, and less reliable (when was the last time your grandmother had to download a firmware update for her dvd player so that she could watch the latest dvd release?)
Oh, and a common misunderstanding, which would not expect a BLORGE writer to make, is that the US is switching to Digital, NOT HD. Big difference.
October 13th, 2008
Oh geez, another blind bat saying upscaled dvd is as good as blu-ray. And sorry folks, but a 1080p download that takes 4 hours before I can watch isn’t going to present anywhere NEAR the quality of a Blu-ray. Sorry, 4Mbps video isn’t comparable to 19+ no matter how good the codec. Not to mention high res audio, which NONE of the download options offer yet make a HUGE impact on the overall movie experience. Hell, a lot of “downloads” are plain stereo without even ANY surround sound. AND THEN, as Wylie points out, you have the broadband providers all looking at how the can monetize you all who want to download everything in sight. Yeah, go ahead, pay those $200+ per month broadband rates!
And still nobody answers my question. Where is the downloadable content and how does it get in my car and play back to entertain my child while I’m on a trip of hundreds of miles? I know that’s DVD now, but as prices drop (we’re already sub-$200 players and will be lower by Christmas) that will be Blu-rayn NOT downloads (let alone streaming downloads). Some day maybe, but not forseeable future.
October 13th, 2008
Once again Mike Ferro proves he’s a complete fanboy Ass Clown. While Blu-ray may have had 17% of the disc sales on one title, the rest of the Blu-ray titles sold next to nothing. With most of the top twenty selling less than 5,000 disc.
While UMD is only a PSP format, the PSP continues to sell well while most studios won’t make movies for UMD anymore. The studios that do release only some movies on the format. And even Sony is rumored to be moving away from UMD on the next PSP.
And while you keep pushing Blu-ray on the 360, Blu-ray is a major factor in the Sony’s move from first to third place with little hope of moving up. So it would be really smart for Microsoft to jump in that sinking ship. So while you say it’s nickel and diming, I say it’s not forcing overly expensive, unneeded products on your customers. I don’t want Blu-ray or HD DVD. And guess who is nickel and diming you more than anyone? The studios. They bring out a new format every time the previous one becomes less lucrative. But you haven’t figured that out have you genius.
Lastly, let’s address the Singulus point. You and the stupid analyst are stating that Blu-ray is doing better because Singulus had 4 more machines ordered than DVD at the same point in their lives. Gee, let’s think about that. In DVDs second year you played DVDs on….. a DVD player. There was no Xbox or PS2, just DVD players. And even when they released, some of the games still came on CDs. Also, there were not as many studios and not all of the studios there were participated in making DVD movies. And besides Warner, if I remember correctly, most were only doing some of their movie or just starting to do movies on DVD. Disney wasn’t doing DVDs at all.
Now with Blu-ray, Sony forced blu-ray on you with the PS3 and bought off most of the studio support from day one. At this point home movies are by far the leading income generator for the studios unlike when DVD came in. More than 40% of what the studios make on movies comes from DVD. So Blu-ray came into a market with the table set for it. But all it can do is sell 4 more machines. You call that successful?
If DVD had complete studio support from day one and a consoles that used the disc, it would have need far more than 21 machines., Stop your fanboy nonsense. Ken Kutaragi needs you to wash his underwear.
October 13th, 2008
DavidB - ever heard of an Ipod Touch, Archos media player or any of the other portable media players?
You are quite right - Downloads will take a long time before they can satisfy an enthusiast like yourself, but joe public wouldn’t give a damn if it is 4Mbps or 19. And considering how many people still watch their dvd’s through the tv speakers, HD surround sound is a bit of a moot point
October 13th, 2008
Have you ever noticed the only people who don’t like Blu ray are 360 fanboys and Sony haters.
When the price of blu ray comes down and is let’s say $150. Are you telling me you would rather have a DVD player over a machine that looks much better? Over the next few years most people will have a HD TV due to that’s about all the companies are selling these days. When these people get their HD TV and then find out their picture can look better with blu ray you don’t think they will make the switch?
October 13th, 2008
Rimmer- I don’t think Joe Public will be downloading movies. Joe Public will go for physical media. I know people like to compare music and movies when it comes to dlc, but they are totally different. People like music dlc because they don’t have to buy the whole cd, just the songs they like. What are you going to do for a movie? Download the ending and that’s it. Or maybe every other chapter. It’s apples and oranges.
October 13th, 2008
Greenberg talking about a blu ray seems like asking Steve Jobs about Vista. I’m sure they could find someone else with a non biased opinion.
I will agree that the hardware manufacturers need to get the price down and quick (coming recession).
DVR’s are nice. I have a HD recorder. I still like to purchase movies and shows.
DVR’s are simply more convenient VCR’s. They existed for a while is what I’m gettin at. Video on Demand is more or less Pay per view (while different ..very similar). These Techs existed before and people still bought VHS movies and TV shows and DVD movie and TV shows. Why would this stop now?
As far as Itunes being so revolutionary. There is a big difference between music and movies. Yes the iTouch/iPhone and countless others can play video. The mere fact that you can’t watch portable movies and shows in the same capacity as listening to music will always exist. People are not going to go out a jog…. and watch a show at the same time. When I go for a drive..i could listen to my iPhone, but will I be watching movies on it while driving? I’m sure dowloadable video will be popular..But never like downloadable music.
What need to happen to help secure downloads is a Rhapsody like service for movies/shows. Pay for a month and get unlimited downloads. Netflix is kind of like this with limited offering. No new releases seem to be there.
I guess all in all…Its way to early to pretend to be able to predict the future. What works for me may not work for others…and everyone seems to be making predictions based on their preference (some pro/anti blu ray because of their console war fanboy status)
October 13th, 2008
Is this a real article or just a cheesy fanboy rant?
No, according to EVERY financial publication this side of Sunday, bluray is STRUGGLING to find it’s place in the world.
The PS3 should never of counted as dedicated bluray players because like I said a gazillian times before, the second all the sick games come out for the PS3, there goes movie sales… the PS3 is owned 99% by gamers, get that through your skull, when faced with 30 holiday games or a few bluray movies, games will win out every time. Dope.
October 13th, 2008
It’s one thing to support digital distribution, but bitching about Blu-ray? C’mon. I have a 360, but even I know that Blu-ray is successful. It’s gonna be here for at least another 15+ years. I’ll be surprised if Microsoft doesn’t integrate it into the Xbox 720. I want Blu-ray on my 360!
October 13th, 2008
james - relax. the “journalists” on this site are kids with no understanding of 1. business 2. gaming or 3. reality.
they’re HUGE sony fanboys brought over from the Sony Defense Force.
i stopped counting how many times Dave Parrack has been wrong. it’s hilarious, in sick “Andy Kaufman/Lenny Bruce” way..
oh well.. one only has to look at their predictions (that never seem to come to fruition) to see how clueless these guys are.
and their biggest proponent? Ivan PSP. that should tell you something.
good point, in your post, james. unfortunately it’ll get lost in the “PS3 WILL RULE THE WORLD” insanity this site seems to like to spew…
heh..ruling the world from last place… lol…funny stuff…
October 13th, 2008
ITS ALL ONE BIG CON IN TENS YEARS TIME THEY WILL BRING OUT ANOTHER FORMAT CLAIMING TO BE FASTER,QUAD LAYERD WITH EVEN MORE STORAGE SPACE MY DVDS DO THE JOB FINE FANX.
October 13th, 2008
Funny how stupid fan boys can be. The 360 doesnt need a Blu-ray drive, MS isnt involved in any making any components except the 360 and look how that turned out. If it hadnt come out first, the reliablitty problems would have killed it completely. A Blu-ray drive would just be more than the 360 could handle causeing more over heating and RROD issues and in turn costing MS even more money and cause 360 fan boys more money as they have to contiue rebuying a new 360 over and over. Yet if your MS this is a good thing cause you actually sell more 360’s this way. But, if you hd-dvd criers would really open your eyes you would see that Blu-ray is doing fine with or without you. We (Blu-ray fans) dont care if you buy one or not. FACT is Blu-ray is taking off faster than DVD and is breaking records each time a new movie comes out despite the economy problems. Imagine if there werent any problems. THe Future really is Blu, whether your on board or not. We will move on with out you. ha ha ha.. pathetic.
October 13th, 2008
Quote of the day has to go to phranctoast with “Greenberg talking about a blu ray seems like asking Steve Jobs about Vista”. Pure gold. As for digital downloads, here in AUS the broadband infrastructure is rated very poorly compared to other countries, and with a government that is to nervous to act, and an incumbent telco making threates every second day, I think physical media will still be very popular here. Music I’m happy to download, but movies & games I prefer physical media.
October 13th, 2008
When BR players can actually compete with the price of DVD players, BR may get popular.
That is, if, at that point, the next big thing isn’t already on the market. People would then wait for that big thing to come down in price, rather than upgrade to an already obsolete technology.
As for me, I never plan on having bluray.
Games have already filled an entire BR disc. That tells me that its just not big enough. Sure, its bigger than DVD, but if its already being pushed to its limits, its not enough of a jump to get me interested.
I’ll just wait it out for protein coated discs. The players will likely start expensive and get cheaper, but making proteins is about the easiest process imaginable. The discs will get dirt cheap, fast, and the space is virtually unlimited, so we won’t see a disc that is full soon after it enters the market.
I also just really dislike BR. Sony paying though the nose to make everyone else pay though the nose for their format rubs me the wrong way. I would buy HDDVD now, with how low the price was getting, but with how expensive BR is…
October 13th, 2008
do what ever you like with your precious DL services, Oh wait you cant do whatever you want with DL content, it never really belongs to you. All of you forget about the abysmal DRM feature. As long as DRM is on your content, then dont claim complete ownership.
Now how many netflix movie downloads have multiple(if any)subtitle, multiple audio tracks, or special features like deleted scenes and such, the answer is NONE.
If you have ever watched a BluRay film in a 52″ 1080 LCD screen with a 7.1 set up on DTS-HD or DolbyTrueHD, then you would never want to go back to DVD.
While all you idiots wait for the “FUTURE” to download your fav films, I’ll be happily watching them on BLURAY, like right now!, oh and if my freind,cousin, or uncle wants to borrow my Iron-man BluRay movie, i’ll go ahead and lend him the damn DISK, without having to give him my whole DVR,HDD, or 360(with HDD). lol.
October 13th, 2008
PS3 WILL RULE THE WORLD:
Yes they do.
October 13th, 2008
What kind of service are some of you people running on for your Internet. Some ouf you are blurting out some crazy times. 4 Hours +, are you kidding me! My HD Downloads on 360 are at least an hour and in about less then 1/2 hour into the dowload and you can start watching the movie. Don’t get the 360 confused with the PS3 because I hear it takes forever to dowload anything on the PS3. It faster to go get the Bluray movie from Blockbuster then to atempt to download a movie on PSN.
October 13th, 2008
I downloaded 10,000 BC full HD in 27 on my PS3.
October 14th, 2008
I love reading these arguments.
October 14th, 2008
fishy1:
SHUT THE FUCK UP you are a moron. PS3 kicks ass you just jealous.
October 14th, 2008
“We have no plans to integrate Blu-ray into the Xbox”
Lol, but they will make an external reader like the HD-DVD and say its a must to buy to experience the full HD.
October 14th, 2008
I think it’ll be a good thing if/when downloading becomes more popular than buy a physical disc to play movies. That way all the Blu-Ray movies will be sold brand new for dirt cheap! That trend happens for music CDs and DVDs right now.
Brand new Blu-Ray movie in ASDA supermarket for £7? Bargain.
October 14th, 2008
Fishy’s point about the upscaling dvd is very valid, as I went and bought myself a nice little Samsung 5 speaker + Subwoofer surround system with an upscaling dvd player for $200, and the difference between the HD movies on free to air and the upscaled DVDs is minimal at best.
October 14th, 2008
When you get a full 1080p HDTV with a PS3 or just Blu-ray player. Watch movies like 300 Blood Diamond The Day After Tomorrow or just Prison Break. You will see what true HD feels like jaw dropping mind blowing amazing. DVD is people who can afford new things.
October 14th, 2008
Hey, it is obvious that BLu-ray (and HD DVD) are visually superior to DVD, just like SACD and DVD Audio are superior to CD and MP3. That still didn’t save them, and that won’t save Bluray. Whilst people are more visually astute and more likely to pick up the difference compared to audio, they just don’t care enough to want to pay for it.Bluray is the best, but DVD is good enough.
October 14th, 2008
Rimmer:
Tell that to this major Hollywood studios and they will you tell to be quiet and that Blu-ray is the future.
Columbia Pictures
MGM Pictures
Warner Bros. Pictures
Paramount Pictures
Universal Pictures
Walt Disney Pictures
October 14th, 2008
Fishy1
I agree with your first post but your attack on me was the stupidest thing I have ever seen. Where have I ever mentioned my internet speed. Thanks for letting me know what it is because I have no clue. I only know what level of service I have from Rogers. I also said I downloaded HD movies where did I mention I dowloaded a SD Movie. My SD Movie Downloads on the 360 take like 15-20 Min. and in 5 min I can begin watching the movie. Get your facts straight buddy before you go and blast someone. It’s kind of like getting your facts straight before you make a stupid purchase. Then your going to bitch about it. No one here told your dumb ass to buy a bluray, your impulse did. So go fuck yourself.
October 14th, 2008
Harry I bought one of those Toshiba HD-DVD players after the format war and the HD-DVD upscales DVD amazingly. It’s the best upscaling I have seen yet as I have tried a few. If your looking for a upconverting DVD I recomend a Oppo or a Denon for the best quality upscalling picture. It wil cost a bit though. Phillips is also a good upscaller.
October 14th, 2008
I’m sorry, but my understanding is that the PS3 has an upscaler in it. So what is this douche fishy talking about? And if he thinks upscaled is better than blu ray he needs to get his eyes checked. He sounds like a 360 owner, not a movie watcher to me.
October 14th, 2008
Fishy 1
I’m sorry dude I should have know. It really made no sense that’s why I didn’t get why you would come at me. I only come on here and read what I need to catch up on and I do it briefly since I’m at work. I read that Post sometime last week so I forgot it was up there. I said no to a log in system a while back when they asked but now I think Blorge needs to impliment it because there are too many poosers no a day. Once again Sorry and I’ll keep it civil with you.
October 14th, 2008
harry sachz #1 poser here
October 14th, 2008
@rimmer..”People don’t buy HD screens because it offers higher resolution, they buy them because they offer larger screens in a smaller, thinner, cheaper package vs CRT” man u must be on crack.. idiot..
October 15th, 2008
@ Ivan_PSP
I think you will find that all these Studios released movies on Laserdisc as some point too, and where is that now?
@ Maximus - why not pop down to your local TV store and ask a few punters there - I think you will be surprised that their motives usually don’t include “wanting higher resolution”
October 15th, 2008
The last sentence kills what little validity the remainder of the article may have had. If you’re going to prop up BRs success as inevitable, make sure the foundation you’re using to prop it up isn’t patently wrong.
“However, with the US switching to HD sometime in 2009, Blu-ray’s success seems inevitable.”
October 15th, 2008
@ rimmer.. if u dont want higher resolution or better pq when buying tv and u just want a massive display then u might as well buy a projector that could project the image to your entire wall.. ask yourself how many people have a projector and how many people have a plasma or lcd tv.. and also how the hell a crt tv is more expensive then a plasma or lcd tv..
October 17th, 2008
maybe because projectors are far too impractical, requiring the room to be dimmed, the projector to be installed somewhere in the room and a dedicated screen, along with all the wiring to it to conect your satellite or cable / freeview box. And how many 32″ CRT’s can you pick up for less than £289? You need to remember that the majority of people have no appreciation of or willingness to fund a home entertainment system that posters on this forum are willing to.