Xbox 360 leading the DLC exclusive lineup in 2009
The PS3 may have the more robust exclusive game lineup for this year, but the Xbox 360 is leading the ‘downloadable content’ (DLC) lineup for 2009. With the skyrocketing development costs, the good old days of third party exclusives is coming to a end. However, Microsoft has waged a new war revolving around exclusive DLCs.
Many studios will refuse to develop a game exclusively for a specific console. However, DLC is quickly becoming the new and popular avenue to distinguishing a console from the pack. You could say that Microsoft invented/initiated the concept of console exclusive DLC.
Grand Theft Auto IV DLC
This is the one that started it all. It was revealed that Microsoft paid Rockstar $50 million to develop two separate DLC for the Xbox 360 version of GTA IV. The first DLC, titled The Lost and Damned, will be released on Feb. 17, 2009. This may be the most anticipated DLC out of the bunch.
Cost: $40 total
Fallout 3 DLC
The Fallout 3 DLCs are a bit more bite sized than the anticipated GTA IV DLC. However, Bethesda Studios will be delivering three separate chunks throughout the year.
The first DLC was already released back in January titled, Operation: Anchorage. In the DLC, you discover a simulator which enables you to relive one of the greatest battles in the history of Fallout 3. The DLC offers around three hours of gameplay time.
The second DLC, titled The Pitt, is set to release around March of this year. In the DLC, you discover a new town inhabitant by those pesky Raiders.
The third and final planned DLC, titled Broken Steel, will be released around April of this year. In the last installment, you will join the Brotherhood of Steel to battle it out with the Enclave to come to a final resolution. This is the DLC that I am look forward to the most. Oddly enough, it seems like this story should have been part of the main quest.
Cost: $30 total
Tomb Raider Underworld DLC
This game received a great deal of scrutiny due to the accusation that the DLC was ripped from the main game. Microsoft approached Eidos to create two additional chapters in the game. The first DLC was titled Beneath the Ashes and the second was titled Lara’s Shadow.
The first DLC was planned for Christmas, but unfortunately the only thing that was revealed from the studio was the layoffs. However, new word has come out that Beneath the Ashes will hit XBL around March. Each DLC is estimated to offer around three hours of gameplay time.
Cost: $20
After the busy holiday season, things have started to settle down a bit. If you want to relive, or extend some of your favorite games of last year, DLC is the best way to do so. With a great deal of DLC coming out in the next few months, Xbox 360 owners will have plenty to be occupied with.
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February 7th, 2009
I’m still angry about the tomb raider dlc. A rep from Eidos already said the dlc was supposed to be in the game. That is BS that Eidos did this.
February 7th, 2009
It’s sad if this is the way gaming is headed in the long term.
February 7th, 2009
Not if you own an xbox
February 7th, 2009
Wow wee, GTA dlc is expensive, you must be getting quite a bit of content for $40?!
February 7th, 2009
It shouldn’t matter whether you own an Xbox, Wii or PS3….DLC is completely the wrong direction for games.
Devs should be selling a whole game, not making users pay again for extra content which could have been included from the start.
February 7th, 2009
Why so angry lockdown? PS3 users won’t have to pay for anything anyway.
It’s up to the gamer if he/she wants to pay extra or not. GTA Episodes were never cut they were always intended to be sold separate
February 7th, 2009
PS3 users won’t have to pay for anything…yet.
When developers see people paying for optional DLC, it’s only a matter of time before DLC will become a mandatory add on in all games.
February 7th, 2009
You don’t “have” to pay for anything, it’s your own choice
February 7th, 2009
FUCK DLC!
February 7th, 2009
CON, are you stupid?
I know I don’t have to pay for anything, but plenty of people do pay for DLC, and that will encourage more and more DLC until it becomes part of the main game itself.
February 7th, 2009
“CON, are you stupid?”
Lock down???? Sorry I didn’t know you had the industry figured out.
If the quality isn’t there people won’t pay for it. Simple as
February 7th, 2009
CON,
What lock_down is rudely getting at, is that DLC drives prices up. Take Tomb Raider for example: originally, the “DLC” was going to ship on the disc with game and retail for $60. But, instead, they took content out of the game and charged $60 for it anyways. Now, if we want to play the WHOLE game, we have to pay ANOTHER $20. If the game had shipped at $40, this wouldn’t be an issue.
It’s a crooked business practice, no matter how you slice it, CON.
-Arvis
February 7th, 2009
DLC is here to stay lockdown, you’re just going to have to accept that. I thinks it’s just sour grapes because you can’t access it via ps3
February 7th, 2009
Looks like the subject Con has excepted to hypnosis. “DLC is here to stay lockdown, you’re just going to have to accept that.” is a good sign that the pawn treatment is working!
February 7th, 2009
@Con
DLC is a good example of how MS has crooked business practices.
Stand on your soap box all you want telling us all how your console is better than ours but to eliminate content from an original game to sell later to make your console look better is bad business practice. Suck MS’s cock all you want. You’ll just get fucked in the ass at the end of the day without a phone call in the morning.
February 7th, 2009
Thanks Arvis…more diplomatically put than me.
You know CON, it’s just sad that you think that I have sour grapes because I somehow can’t access DLC, which incidentally as we have already clarified, there is nothing wrong with the PS3 connection, so accessing it would not be a problem.
But hey, if Xbox users are happy receiving exclusive DLC, then you’re welcome to it.
I hope it provides a fulfilling and deep gaming experience for you, on top of the price you have already paid for the game.
Over on the PS3, we’ll just stick to full games such as KZ2, GOW3 and Uncharted.
February 7th, 2009
“Over on the PS3, we’ll just stick to full games such as KZ2, GOW3 and Uncharted.”
Lockdown I’m just going to hang on to this comment to make you eat your words when these games come out with DLC.
PS How can you say GTA and Fallout weren’t full games?
February 7th, 2009
Go ahead CON, you hang it over my head.
But Uncharted 1 never came out with DLC, and I fail to see how GOW3 is going to incorporate DLC; same too with KZ2.
But facts are facts CON; it’s Microsoft, not Sony, who is actively promoting single player DLC. I mean look above, that fact is staring you point blank in the face.
And when you hear Aaron Greenberg and Robbie Bach state that DLC will be important to them this year, and that GTA 4 DLC is a reason why Xbox Live is better than PSN… even with all fanboy/system/company hatred some people have with Sony, I really cannot –and I genuinely can’t — understand how people can defend Microsoft’s pushing of DLC.
Because in the end it will affect everybody.
People (idiots, and I don’t care if it offends anybody here) buy this stuff. And when developers see that, you can guarantee that the end game will be a shift from including everything on the disc; to hosting it, and making you pay to download extra, CRUCIAL single player content; not just some random add-on.
We should all be actively resisting the pushing of single player DLC.
Given the success of DLC, it’s the transition of making DLC crucial to the “shipped” game which will likely be the next big push, and gamers everywhere should be absolutely resisting all DLC with a vengeance.
February 7th, 2009
DLC is fine IF they don’t strip something out the game for it (I’m thinking they will start to take stuff out of games).
PC games have been getting expansions for years and heck, remember the GTA London expansion for PSX?
February 7th, 2009
meh… stead of commenting… Ill just blawg it…
back to the names…
I liked NoobHax… but the more I say it… the more it sounds childish…
so in honor of our newly invigorated teammate… who is starting to sound like he drank too much red bull…
how about “Jaggamars” ??? tell me what it means arvis…
February 7th, 2009
DWH,
It’s a name I made up in 8th grade. I needed to give a tertiary character in my Final Fantasy VI fanfiction a last name. It has no actual meaning or significance other than that, I just thought it sounded cool.
-Arvis
February 7th, 2009
well… what about you other idiots??
I checked google… jaggamar.com is available…
February 7th, 2009
And CON, I know that you’re going to respond with something along the lines of “PS3 is too expensive” or “shoddy ports” etc.
Yeah, I get it.
But look at what Sony’s studios are doing. Instead of trying to secure third party DLC, there can be no doubt that Sony is actively pushing its development studios hard.
I mean look at how much kev (has he truly left?) was criticising Guerrilla’s previous games. And he did have a point. They were pretty poor. But having played the KZ2 demo, there is simply an astonishing gap between KZ1 and KZ2; Sony has absolutely pushed Guerrilla hard. There is no doubt about that.
And Uncharted 2 is slated to use around 50% more of the PS3’s power than Uncharted 1, and will cost $20 million to develop. The same cost has been attributed to KZ2.
And look at Gran Turismo 5; in development for over 5 years and still not out, and costing 50 times more to develop than the original.
And having seen God Of War 2 being longer and graphically better than GOW1, I have no reason to doubt that GOW3 will be epic, and in turn this, and like all games I’ve mentioned, are commanding hefty investment.
I don’t see this from Microsoft. And given how Microsoft is a software company, you would expect them to be producing an extensive amount of proprietary IP’s…but they aren’t.
There strategy was to probably hoover up exclusives first, but now that that is getting more expensive, they’re looking to make DLC the selling point of the game for their system.
And how anyone can defend or welcome that, I really don’t know.
February 7th, 2009
lock_down…
blawg it… in jaggamar.com
hehe…
also… Uncharted 2 MAY have co-op… thats the word on the street…
February 7th, 2009
phranctoast:
“DLC is a good example of how MS has crooked business practices.”
Anyone would think that no PS3 game ever indulged in this kind of stuff.
Tell me, wasn’t it a certain racing game on the PS3 that siold for around $50 but needed another $90 of DLC opurchased to open up everything that could be had on the game?
Double-standards, much?
Personally I think it’s just pretty naive to imagine this won’t be an increasingly important part of gaming.
No matter whether you are for or against it.
Of course only the good stuff will sell
(once enough word gets out as to what is worth bothering with and what’s not).
No point gurning about it, and it’s nothing to do with evil M$ or $ony either.
Better and better net connections coupled with increasingly cheap storage have made this inevitable.
February 7th, 2009
on a serious note…
I dont know whether you guys are taking this serious or not… but I am… I think instead of coming here and just arguing the same old stories we should atleast do something more productive…
I know people like Roy and bourne and Arvis have something decent to say… even Carl and Harry makes sense sometimes… so we might as well blawg it…
so if you 5 are interested… we could start something now… we can still hang around here and make penis jokes… and continue to come to the same “stalemate” conclusions… or we can do something about it…
think through it… Im not asking you to quit your job over it… but it would be a nice little hobby…
February 7th, 2009
Do you think i give a rats ass? i honestly would rather have a WHOLE GAME than shitty add on content that lasts 1 day……what a dumb article…..okay 360 fans, have fun with your DLC while i enjoy playing tons of amazing games……looks like i wont be touching my 360 at all this year..i better get the duster ready….
February 7th, 2009
I see, so the obvious anti-XBox whining continues when it’s clear the PS3 indulge in this too.
Double standards ahoy.
Personally I could care less.
I got 2 superb games on my paid for DLC (yeah it’s not quite the same thing but it kinda is).
I got the best game ever as far as I’m concerned (Speedball2) and a very very nice chess game.
I was happy to be able to get these and if the only alternative (not having a stack of old Amigas etc etc lying about or such like) is not having them then count me in; they’ll give me many many hours enjoyment.
Given the alternative (of this content not being available for me to choose to get) I am more than happy with DLC.
Clearly (as with all things game connected) some DLC will be duff……but it’s also likely some of it will be ‘must have’.
For all the whinging the truth is it can’t stopped, it’s another revenue stream & they’re all going to be at it.
February 7th, 2009
what the fuck is a speedball happy??? you never told me…
February 7th, 2009
Maybe if ps3 came up with some other ways to market their product such as DLC they wouldn’t be last in the console race.
I only see GTA Episodes as a good thing. Their too big to be added to the game and too small to be sold as a game…….cough, prologe, cough
February 7th, 2009
ICE CREAM ICE CREAM!
That is speedball!
dwh – its a sports game. Google it.
Brutal sports football was a good one too.
February 7th, 2009
meh sell it i paid 400 for an arcade and sold it on ebay 6 months later for 560.
its amaizing what people will pay for crap of ebay.
February 7th, 2009
how bout
“canihasgame”.com???
February 8th, 2009
Actually Mike, Dreamcast was the one that started it all on home consoles, but was a failure due to narrowband and lack of users. XBox soon followed with most of it being free content. Elder Scrolls on the 360 is also an excellent example predating GTAIV.
To everyone else thinking DLC is “sad”, should be part of the “whole” game to begin with, it automatically “drives prices up”, it is by it’s nature a “crooked business practice”, etc. SW made the best point out of this, being DLC is nothing new considering expansion packs, let alone necessarily “bad”. Btw, who here actually complains about free DLC?
Saying all content should be included as soon as it is released is like saying Guitar Hero or Rock Band should be released with all songs on the face of the planet and ignore any that come out after release. As SW said, DLC is only bad to the point that it is taken out from the original game, and games like Underworld only seem to suffer for it, both in reviews and sales. It only makes sense to create more content and sell it for the bestselling and top rated games: fans will pay for and enjoy it thoroughly, even though they might prefer to have it for free (something more for nothing on their part), it is worth the time and the effort of the developer to create it to sell.
lock_down:
“Over on the PS3, we’ll just stick to full games such as” LittleBigPlanet, Call of Duty 4, Bioshock, Metal Gear Solid 4, Elder ScrollsIV, Rock Band, etc? That’s just games that utilize DLC from the PS3’s top ten rated games.
Sony bought entire studios to make exclusive games, and Microsoft instead (for the most part) buys exclusive DLC and sometimes third party exclusives. It is up to the developer how good the original game will be (and as a consequence, how good sales will be of the game and later DLC if they decide to create it). It is a smart strategy that will (and has) benefited gamers and games themselves. Those who seek to exploit DLC will pay the price in lower sales and lower quality games.
February 8th, 2009
actually Carl… I think buying exclusive hurts the gamers playing on the competitors console…
because big games… will have a plan to release a DLC… exclusivity doesnt encourage to start or stop them from making the DLC… look at Burnout Paradise and even mass effect… *cough* horse armor *cough*
I hope I can get this DLC on my ps3…. even if it comes a year later… if I remember correctly.. San Andreas on the Xbox… didnt give you half the city… it gave you everything… though it came out a year later…
February 8th, 2009
Enough of the double standards already making sony to be above all this money making. What was Prologe???
I would love to hear what you ps3 fanboys would have to say if GTA4 Episodes and Fallout DLC was exclusive to ps3.
Sour grapes
February 8th, 2009
darkwhitehair:
“what the fuck is a speedball happy??? you never told me…”
I did but cos I included a link it got moderated & slowed up.
You could easily look it up yourself.
I’m surprised you never heard of it, it’s a total legend of a game.
February 8th, 2009
I never heard of Crono Trigger till a few weeks ago… I learn news things every day…
February 8th, 2009
“I think buying exclusive hurts the gamers playing on the competitors console…” I agree dwh, buying entire studios does hurt competitor’s consoles, unless that competitor balances it out in some way, like with exclusive dlc and third party exclusives. Sony can do the same if they so desire, and they have with BioShock, Mirror’s Edge, etc.
February 8th, 2009
also the thing is… there is no way for all us to be objective over this… because Im sure I wouldnt care as much if I had a 360…
February 8th, 2009
+1 dwh.
February 8th, 2009
True
It’s just sour grapes
February 9th, 2009
Seems like I getting thrown into a group with others.
I don’t mind DLC. I hate exclusive DLC, especially when it’s been said that they purposely cut a game short to do it.
I also believe some DLC should be free. The dead Space DLC, and the Force Unleashed stuff should not be charged.
Criterion seems to be getting it right with Burnout Paradise.
Epic also released a bunch of DLC for free.
February 9th, 2009
“It’s just sour grapes”
Such a laughable statement it’s untrue.
February 9th, 2009
GTA is the only exclusive DLC that I would even want.
Instead, I get about 10 exclusive first party games, in place of the 3-5 hour GTA episode. Sony has the better strategy here by far.
February 9th, 2009
Years end will tell the tale Barnabe.
February 9th, 2009
“Sony has the better strategy here by far.”
Clearly……….lol. That’s why they’re last in the console race!
Baranabe you’ve got some of the most pathetic fanboy comments on here next to ivan
February 9th, 2009
indulge me CON… how is Barnabe wrong here… which part of the Strategy is wrong?? and how do you measure a successful strategy???
dont bother with shit like that… we have all heard it before… actually we have heard much weirder stuff in this blawg… youre just repeating what other idiots have said over the past year…
February 9th, 2009
Say what you want about Barnabe (sorry man). But don’t you EVER knock the man with the ‘bad ass moustache’. He’ll gansta-ize you with his chrome ps2 and ‘candy paint’ ps3. Sheesh.
February 9th, 2009
@CON,
I agree, fanboyism aside, currently PS3 is in last place.
However, going forward from an investment prespective and the state of how 3rd party publishers will not develop exclusives any more, isn’t Sony’s effort to build up internal studios a better long term strategy?
It just seems to make sense to me.
@CarlB,
I can’t agree with your comparison of exclusive 3rd party multiplatform DLCs with exclusive 1st party full fledged games.
console exclusive DLC for multiplatform games is abit like – giving only one of your two kids a christmas gift and neglecting the other. They are both your kids.
1st party exclusive full game is a bit like- not caring if you should give a christmas toy to your next door neighbor’s kid. because, lets face it its not your kid, who cares?
February 10th, 2009
Dirk,
The gift to both is the game. If it is incomplete from the start, then that may be an injustice. However, if it is complete from the start, one kid still has money, and the other already spent all of his allowance earlier. The kid that still has money can buy things that make the gift last longer, while the other spent his money earlier to get entirely separate stuff for himself and abandons the gift entirely for something else after a shorter period of time.
February 10th, 2009
CarlB,
Your analogy doesn’t make much sense. The second kid who spent all of his money cannot by things make the gift last longer even if he had the money because he is being discriminated against the “extras”.
also your analogy doesn’t follow the logic flow of my analogy.
I think you have some difficulty understanding my analogy. Re-read it carefully and try to understand my message.
February 10th, 2009
Carl,
to help you a bit.. look at the nature of the controversies surrounding DLC and 1st party titles.
There are none for 1st party (God of War, Killzone 2 ..etc..) titles, but console exclusive DLC is a hot topic.
There is a reason for that, and that reason lies in my initial analogy.
February 10th, 2009
Con: LMAO. I guess you’re probably not too far off. I have played Resistance 2 with Ivan the past two nights. It was a bit of a pointed comment, but I still stand by my statement. For the amount of money M$ paid RockStar to keep the episodes away from PS3 users, they could have invested an entirely new IP or game. That would only benefit Xbots like yourself.
February 10th, 2009
With Uncharted 2 and KZ2 costing around $20 million each to develop, MS could have created two awesome games.
I agree totally with Barnabe. Would I rather my console maker spend $50 million to have a developer make two DLC packs for what was a mediocre game or two exclusive titles for $40 million; one of which has already racked up over 1 million pre-orders in Europe alone and received positive reviews.
I just don’t see how anyone can think that the MS strategy is the better one for gamers as a whole. Although to be honest, I may as well give up trying.
While it’s true to say that the 360 version of GTA VI sold more than the PS3; it certainly wasn’t the whitewash some were predicting, showing that the extra DLC didn’t have significant effect for the choosing of the platform on which to play the game.
February 10th, 2009
Dirk,
The difference between your analogy and reality is money and business. There is plenty of DLC for Sony first party titles, just not for the ones you have mentioned because they either haven’t been out long enough or haven’t come out yet. If there is any discrimination, it is the same that has been going on for decades when considering a company can make a deal and buy the rights for a creator’s work. Sony has and will continue to do this along with Microsoft.
February 11th, 2009
Barnabe,
Agreed, for the amount of money Microsoft paid Rockstar to have exclusive DLC they could have an entirely new more risky IP or game, so they made a wise decision in locking up an almost guaranteed fanbase with GTAIV DLC. It can only benefit Microsoft and 360 owners and help Sony lose some GTA fans.
lock_down,
GTAIV on 360 alone has more sales than uncharted2 and KZ2 combined, so with exclusive rights to GTAIV DLC, Microsoft is ensuring more content for a much higher rated title and a guaranteed fanbase that is significantly larger.
That GTAIV is a mediocre game is your own personal opinion, but if that is your opinion then you shouldn’t mind too much about additional content being created for it.
Sony PS3’s DLC for Rock Band, Guitar Hero, LBP, BioShock (exclusive), COD4, Mirror’s edge (exclusive), episodes (Siren), expansion packs, etc. make the case for DLC. Do you really think they won’t make DLC map packs for KZ2?
The case for DLC to exist WITH full games is that quality content has and will continue to be created for full games. The best are good games within themselves that exist within the original game’s world, or extend that experience significantly. Shivering Isles proved to be quality content created in addition to the full game, and now LatD looks to do the same. Quality DLC can be created after a great game has been for a fraction of the price of an entirely new game.
I personally think $35 is too much to pay for a BR copy of Dark Knight, but the price has come down (now that the big fans who couldn’t wait have bought theirs) to $24, which I still think is too much, but I can see why people still want to buy it. I imagine it will be the same for GTAIV DLC in that big fans who cannot wait will buy it for full price (I believe each pack lasts longer than the Dark Knight movie – but I could be wrong), while others may wait until it comes down or not buy it at all.
To say DLC shouldn’t exist is like saying TV show series shouldn’t exist, only movies; that songs shouldn’t be sold separately but only as part of an album; that short stories shouldn’t exist, only full books.
Quality DLC created in addition to the game that extends it’s life is good, while DLC that was originally part of the game but has been ripped from it degrades the original experience. Both kinds of DLC exist, but only one will sell more in the end, and that is the one with the most quality. To ignore good DLC while claiming that the other is the only kind that exists is ignoring reality. To say that only Microsoft is profiting off of DLC while Sony does not is ignoring reality.
February 11th, 2009
I for one wouldn’t be buying the GTA DLC even if it was available on the PS3. Never even made it to the end of the game, so it would be foolish to bother spending more on a game that proved to me that I couldn’t care enough about finishing it in the first place.
As far as I’m concerned the game gets an A for effort on quantity/quality but seriously fails in the gameplay dept. Mercenaries 2 blows it out of the water as far as character control was concerned.
February 11th, 2009
Carl, “It can only benefit Microsoft and 360 owners and help Sony lose some GTA fans” – it just seems like a sleazy move to me. Both 360 and PS3 users would have it, plus M$ would have about 2 new IPs. These sort of slash and burn business practices, are one of my main gripes with the company.
I agree with you on DLC. If done right, it can bring extra life to a game. In some instances though, it does feel like they strip content away from the base game in order to make a quick buck.
February 11th, 2009
Sour grapes barnie
February 11th, 2009
phranctoast,
You shouldn’t mind then that it is available on the 360. However, just a few gamers may have a different opinion than you and buy the DLC.
Barnabe,
It is a business move, and Sony has done the same in the past with other games. Content is content, and if it is worth paying for, then companies will continue to create, buy, and or sell it.
If you agree with me that DLC can be done right, then you see how it can cost money and time to create it, which gives it the right to be sold. Those other instances are a shame, but ultimately hurt initial demand and sales overall.
February 11th, 2009
I don’t mind the GTA DLC because I couldn’t care less about it. Tomb Raider on the other hand really irks me. Especially since things were coming out saying it was supposed to be in the game originally.
3 hours of DLC on a game that was 7-8 hours is criminal.
In other news, Valve has announced that its L4D DLC will be free.
Thats good news, because the game hardly seemed complete as it was so it’s good they are not charging for it.
February 11th, 2009
Hopefully an imminent L4D port for the PS3 will be complete…
February 12th, 2009
Again, your opinion phranctoast, and many disagree. Tomb Raider’s sales, reviews, and demand reflect it’s quality and serve as a lesson to DLC content in the future.
Quality DLC will continue be given away for free and be sold successfully in addition to original games. It is nothing new and will not replace full games. At best, and after a long time, DLC could reach a popularity similar to TV shows/series as opposed to full movies.
lock_down, if so, you might get to play it as early as November.
February 12th, 2009
In other news, you can buy a ninja costume for your Home avatar today.
February 12th, 2009
“GTA IV: Lost And Damned Multiplayer Free for Six Days
To celebrate the February 17 launch of the first add-on content for Grand Theft Auto IV, Microsoft and Rockstar Games are offering players the chance to experience the multiplayer gameplay from the Lost And Damned DLC pack free of charge.
Beginning at 9 AM on February 17 and continuing until midnight, February 22, all Grand Theft Auto IV fans with access to Microsoft’s Xbox Live service (read: both those with paid Gold subscriptions and those with free Silver accounts) will be able to experience the multiplayer functionality of the add-on, free of charge.
The company has planned a full slate of Xbox Live events during the time period including a chance to play the game online with members of the development team at Rockstar Games who crafted GTA IV.”
blog.wired.com/games/
February 13th, 2009
CarlB,
I’m well aware that I’m speaking for myself and not the entire world. Did it at any point seem otherwise?
“I for one wouldn’t be buying the GTA DLC even if it was available on the PS3″
“I don’t mind the GTA DLC because I couldn’t care less about it”
February 13th, 2009
No, it was clear the first time you mentioned it as well as the second, just pointing out there is a market beyond your opinion.
February 15th, 2009
@ CarlB:
realy can you show me where you bought both of those so i can pick them up tomorrow.
thanks