Confirmed: Microsoft to blame for delay of Final Fantasy XIII
The release date for Final Fantasy XIII has remained a moving target for a good part of the last several years. Developers at Square Enix pointed towards 2009 as the release date in 2008. However, in January of this year, executives indicated that the game will be delayed to some time in 2010.
Many gamers were expecting to play Final Fantasy XIII by Christmas time this year on their PS3. However, it seems like the development of the game may be taking a bit longer then initially anticipated. This isn’t all that surprising considering the decision made by Square Enix to tack on another platform to support (Xbox 360).
This is really a follow up to my initial article where I harshly criticized Microsoft for “cock” blocking Sony by making it so that the PS3 version gets delayed along with the Xbox 360 version. As I mentioned previously, I really don’t care whether I play it on my Xbox 360 or PS3 as long as it doesn’t take half a decade to get the game out.
According to Videogamer, the producer of Final Fantasy XIII, Yoshinori Kitase, stated that the basic engine work is being done on both versions of the game (PS3 and Xbox 360) simultaneously. However, the team will not do any of the finishing touches on the Xbox 360 until the PS3 version is finished.
Kitase stated:
When it comes to the basic engine it’s likely we are going to keep them on the go simultaneously. But the finishing touches, the details, the PS3 version will be completed first, then we will move on to 360.
When Videogamer asked Kitase if the finishing touches have begun for the Xbox 360 version he stated “We will have to wait until we are done with the PS3 version.†When Kitase talks about basic engine work he is talking about the Crystal Tools, which is suppose to work on both the Xbox 360 and PS3.
I really don’t mind Microsoft paying money to get games as long as it doesn’t effect the release dates of the game. The blame really goes more to Square Enix than Microsoft for agreeing to such a crazy development decision. As a fellow software developer I can already see the Square Enix’s developers groaning when staring at the extended red glowing project plan timeline.
Kitase has also indicated in his interview with Videogamer that localization is fast-tracked a la Metal Gear Solid 4 style, with English voice being recorded during Japanese development. So much for blaming localization on the delay.
It seems like there shouldn’t be much basic engine work to do considering the engine is said to be working on both platforms already. However, his comment, “finishing touches, the details” has me a little concerned. If you didn’t already know – the devil’s usually in the details.
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May 19th, 2009
Guys,
Before anyone gets bent out of shape, to clarify – the title implies confirmation to the original story (http://gamer.blorge.com/2009/01/15/blame-microsoft-for-final-fantasy-xiii-delay-on-ps3/).
May 19th, 2009
Well i will never buy this game for Xbox 360 i would hate to switch so many damn disc. I like the idea of a game being on a single disc less hassle. Also the PS3 no matter what will have the best version so anyone who owns a PS3 and Xbox 360 will be an idiot to buy it for Xbo 360 only. I will buy this for PLAYSTATION 3 first day just to get the trophies i don’t like playing RPG much they too boring for me.
May 19th, 2009
Microsoft FAIL!
And I second whatever Ivan_PSP said, multiple discs for a huge game would just be so tedious to handle, PS3 for me. (Not a fanboi, I just think that this console would be better for FFXiii)
BTW, you almost made me click on the first ad on this article because it looked something out of FF! “Meet Asian Girls” haha!
May 19th, 2009
It must hurt so bad.
LOL
May 19th, 2009
That’s ok. I am sure i’ll be kept busy with Last Remnant and Star Ocean while waiting for my next Japanese made RPG fix.
May 19th, 2009
Lame.
May 19th, 2009
@ harry,
I can tell how much u know about JRPG’s by comparing Last Remnant and Star Ocean to Final Fantasy or any other good JRPG. Microsoft is paying good money to get a good amount of JRPGs but they are all garbage. Japanese Developers dont like the 360 and thats why 360 ower have to be satisfied you what ur getting, because at least ur getting something right.
Here are some good RPGs coming up for the PS3:
2009—————————-
1-White Knight Chronicles
2-Demon’s Souls
3-Atelier Rorona
4-Cavia
5-Last Rebellion
6-Cross Edge
7-Tales of Vesperia
2010 ————————–
1- Final Fantasy Versus XIII
2- Kingdom Hearts 3
3- Dark Cloud 3 (rumored)
MMORPG ———————-
1- Free Realms
2- Uncharted Water Online
3- DC Universe
4- The Agency
5- Square-Enix’s MMO
May 19th, 2009
I don’t understand what the problem is; FFXIII was always going to go multi-plat when you consider the development cost.
But anyway, PS3 owners can just import it as soon as it’s released in Japan given that PS3 games are region free.
Okay, so people won’t have a fucking clue what’s going on without English dubs, but still…
May 19th, 2009
looks like carlb owes someone an apology.
May 19th, 2009
Here is what I don’t understand, how does a smaller company like Konomi release MGS 4 worldwide on the same day?
Sure the 360 version threw a monkey wrench into things, but there was going to be a delay between east and west regardless. For a large company, and arguably one of the most anticipated games this gen, it seems like square just doesn’t have there shit together. There too busy releasing shitty FF spin off games no one wants.
May 19th, 2009
Konami are bigger than Square going by revenue.
Kojima preferred David Hayter’s voice to his Japanese Snake brethren, so David’s voice was recorded first making localisation quicker.*
*allegedly
May 19th, 2009
Well, Square is going the rout of Konami where they do the recording simultaneously right after Japanese Voices have been recorded.
I really don’t understand why Square didn’t do this before – actually probably the best reason is the Japanese Studio’s mentality to release in Japan first, see how well it does then release it in US.
Best example of this practice is White Knight. There is a English Language version in Asia (Not Japan)… so why isn’t it out here yet? Who knows.
May 19th, 2009
“There is a English Language version in Asia…so why isn’t it out here yet?”
Sony is to blame for delaying Sony PS3 exclusives in the west !
May 19th, 2009
Demon’s Souls is another to add to the list. The English voice work has been done for a while now… and still no release date in site.
LockDown, Is there any particular reasoning behind that? Localization maybe?
May 19th, 2009
OK so I finally played Killzone. I’ll be honest that I was not overly impressed. It was good I suppose but there was to many annoyances and maybe that is because I’m use to a good control setup. But before I could play the Demo the constant updating and the super long loads are unacceptable if Sony ever wanted me to own a PS3. The fact that I had to download it and then install it after was unbelieveable plus the super long wait time for both download and install that I experienced just so I could try this game. You guys have no right trying to compare LIVE to PSN. I would pay double what Microsoft is charging to have a LIVE experience over the PSN Experience anyday. Anyway it was short and it looked good but there wasn’t too much to the graphics as it was overly Grey and Brown and that’s about it. Zoom in all you want Because Gears still has a better presentation. So I was constantly throwing Grenades because the Trigger is not use for a Trigger. R1 is the trigger for reasons beyond me (even Resistance does the same thing). The kickback in the Gun that Mike Talks about is good but I can’t understand why Mike would big this up like it was the first time he had ever experienced a gun with kickback. The cover system was garbage as I have to hold L1 to hold my cover. At first I was not even sure I was in cover or not. As for giving a sense of being in a war, the atmosphere definately gives that feeling. Being equipted with only two guns really suck. A handgun and a main gun is all you get plus Grenades. I could shoot a dude way in the back with any gun. There is not depth preception in this game and I guess that’s OK with only two guns to choose from. In Gears if the dude is too far your cursor won’t turn red. In Killzone it will light up no matter how far the enemy is on the map. I could say more but really, enjoy what you have but for me it’s really a step backwards when compared to Gears and Halo.
May 19th, 2009
Home was also fun but I can see how this will fade fast. Plus the super long loads and updates just to get into it. You can Keep Home. Dancing with the girls was fun but she didnt speak English.
May 19th, 2009
ARVIS! ARVIS! GUESS WHAT!
Fallout 3 DLC coming to the PS3
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!
Now I have to buy Fallout 3… WOOOOOOOOT!
May 19th, 2009
CAD:
jUST SHUT UP ALREADY WOW LIES LIES.
May 19th, 2009
@ CAD
we can all tell u never had a PS3, first of all the download times depends on ur internet connection not PSN or XBL. (thats how dumb u are). Halo 3 is basically a better looking Halo 2. Gears is a great game but graphically it does not stand near Killzone 2. Also YOU PLAY A DEMO. how are you going to know if a game its good or not by playing a demo (I thought the Uncharted and Bioshock Demo were crap, but after I played the full game BOTH games are one of my favorite games right now).
You only talk about Gears of War and Halo because thats all the X360 has. Killzone 2 online multiplayer is way better than halo wars and Gears of War. The controls are a little heavy and its hard to get used to i’ll give you that, but once u are pass the learning curve Killzone 2 is a awesome game.
Home only has updates and loadtimes the first time you enter. but u wouldn’t know because ur to busy trying to figure out what games to buy for ur 360. so far all 360 exclusive are crap compare to ps3.
360: Halo Wars, Star Ocean, Ninja Blade, Valve Assasins.
PS3: Killzone 2, MLB 09: The Show, inFAMOUS.
Even Resistance Retribution (PSP) on the PS3 is better than what the 360 got so far in 2009
May 19th, 2009
DWH, I own Fallout too……. sniff.
May 19th, 2009
@ CAD:
Im not a fanboy
360 was the best between 2006 & 2007;
PS3 had a better gaming lineup 2008 and so far 2009. 2010 also seems to be a PS3 year.
May 19th, 2009
@CAD: Don’t blame the PS3 for your shitty internet connection.
May 19th, 2009
DWH,
Yeah, I heard! Pretty exciting, guess I have to start playing it again. =D
My roommate will probably still play it more than me, though.
-Arvis
May 19th, 2009
YES YES YES!!!!
WOOOOT!
Well now I cant buy Fallout…. sad I couldve gotten a deal on the collectors edition… still…
If it had co op… imagine… WOOT!
May 19th, 2009
Delay of FF post -> CAD’s killzone experience…
Alright then…
Who wants to hear about the day I went fishing a caught a chub?
May 19th, 2009
I Just picked up Shadow of the Colossus. I needed an inexpensive game to keep me busy while I wait for Infamous to arrive. The game has held up really well, which isn’t surprising since it’s only a few years old. So far everything gets an A… except for the camera. The wonky camera can be disorienting while fighting the Colossi. Otherwise, I am very happy.
May 19th, 2009
lol that’s why I figured it was ok to go off topic. Since the train was already derailed…
May 19th, 2009
we can all tell u never had a PS3
Really Roca, you must be the only person here that does not know that. New Fish, you gotta hate em because I would have to explain to you what everyone here already knows I’m going to say and believe me I’m not going through this again. Put CAD in the Gamer Blorge search and all my comments will come up. You’ll get to know me that way. Peace!!
May 19th, 2009
of all the download times depends on ur internet connection not PSN or XBL. (thats how dumb u are).
Tell that to all your PS3 Buddies because they bring that stupid argument all the time. Then I’ll hit them with the same line about connection speed. I have a good connection speed I actually have the 2nd best service from Rogers Cable. know your fact before you mouth off new fish.
May 19th, 2009
@ roca,
I know that Star Ocean and Last Remnant are not as good as Final Fantasy, but they’re keeping me entertained in the meantime.
I love it how n00bs join this little community and the first thing they do is attack people. Mick did it with CAD (mistaking him for CON), Knighthawk did it with Happy etc.
May 19th, 2009
Why do ou guys focus on 2009 when the generation started in 2005. Oh I forgot you just got games in 2009 since your PS3 had an identy crisis for the past 2 years.
I’m I a Bluray Player or am I a game machine. Do I package the PS3 with a game or Spiderman 3 the movie on bluray. Oh we forgot to make games, OK lets package it with Spiderman 3 since we forgot to make games.
Idiots the 360 has had games and more to come. We don’t need to worry about 2009 which has had a great lineup so far including the 3rd party games which always look better on the 360 anyways and alll these game going back to 2005 plus the arcade games and the XNA games. I don’t need to state games and make list because we all know how shameful the PS3 looks when I drop a list. But keep reaching and I’ll keep laughing. Maybe one day you’ll tempt me to drop an updated list.
May 19th, 2009
Mike your next
“Confirmed: Microsoft to blame for delay of Final Fantasy XIII”
As if we didn’t know this since E3 2008. Keep reaching!!! Must be a slow day for news.
May 19th, 2009
Then you rush to put in a disclaimer like your innocent or something. Mickey you make me laugh somedays.
May 19th, 2009
Sometimes I wonder if Microsoft gives up the exclusive right to make Money off PS3 People. Get their money Bill Gates, Get their $$$
May 19th, 2009
You know CAD, considering that you say your nuts are, quote, “big enough that we don’t need to show them off”, you seem to have a lot to say…
May 19th, 2009
Wait wait hold on a second… so let me get this straight… so after all these days… CAD finally got his hands on a PS3… then played Killzone 2… none of which we can confirm by the way…
then he finds out the CONSPIRACY! that Killzone 2′s graphics isnt really good… not as good as Gears… even though… from the Previews… every single preview that I saw… from 1up to Gamespot… said it had the best graphics they saw in a console…
something is wrong here…. obviously CAD is right… since he is unbiased… WE MUST CALL FOX NEWS AND INFORM THEM THAT THE GAME REVIEWERS ARE BEING PAID OFF BY SONY!
Im just glad he brought this to our attention before others were seduced by the PS3… clearly every single PS3 owner in the world thinks that the PSN is better than LIVE… and they frequently touch themselves while laughing at 360 owners for paying for LIVE…
THank you CAD… you have opened my eyes… Obviously the 360 is the best console… it has sold more units than any other console in the history of the universe… that isnt a myth…. I heard that from a fellow “truth speaker”.. his name was Aaron Green.. something…
So… arvis and Roy… I expect you to through that Bluray shit out the window and apologize to Microsoft for your heresy… bastards…
May 19th, 2009
First off let me say this is NOT official… but speak of the devil. Check out the rumored trailer for Team ICO’s new game “Trico”. It reeks of awesomeness.
joystiq.com/2009/05/19/rumor-team-icos-third-project-trico-revealed/
May 20th, 2009
“The fact that I had to download it and then install it after was unbelieveable plus the super long wait time for both download and install that I experienced just so I could try this game.”
So that long downloads and long install times are the games fault right?
Ok then Gears of War 2 sucked because guess what? In order to get a decent, bug free multiplayer experience wasn’t there an update that HAD to be installed to be fixed?
That should knock Gears2 off its high horse…
“ou guys have no right trying to compare LIVE to PSN. I would pay double what Microsoft is charging to have a LIVE experience over the PSN Experience anyday.”
Well your the right demographic MS wants anyways:
MS: CAD, bend over!
CAD: Ok, but why am i ..
MS: feels so good..
CAD: OUCHH!!! its ok…your MS…but why did i have to do..
MS: Shut up, its premium..
May 20th, 2009
“Anyway it was short and it looked good but there wasn’t too much to the graphics as it was overly Grey and Brown and that’s about it.”
Sounds just like Gears2..too short and overly one toned…Gears2 doesnt have much in the way of color use buddy…also, check out the zoomed in textures in the level where you escorting the rails….oogllyy…
“Zoom in all you want Because Gears still has a better presentation.”
Sorry, every review on the planet thinks otherwise…KZ2′s presentation not only immerses you in the game, its much more believeable <—that last part is subjective though…
May 20th, 2009
“So I was constantly throwing Grenades because the Trigger is not use for a Trigger. R1 is the trigger for reasons beyond me (even Resistance does the same thing). The kickback in the Gun that Mike Talks about is good but I can’t understand why Mike would big this up like it was the first time he had ever experienced a gun with kickback.”
LOL, just proves that you cannot do anything right CAD….you can configure your controls you know…i believe ALternate 2 is the overall best setup…
May 20th, 2009
“In Gears if the dude is too far your cursor won’t turn red. In Killzone it will light up no matter how far the enemy is on the map. I could say more but really, enjoy what you have but for me it’s really a step backwards when compared to Gears and Halo.”
ROFL….so what you are saying is you rely on auto aiming…..and thats what you miss..
Its funny you say you can kill anyone on the map that is far away, yet, you have only played the Demo, and you claim you can’t even play the game because of the controls…pathetic CAD..
Halo- again the only thing Halo has over KZ in my eyes, is vehicles.Everything else about Halo is utter garbage.
Don’t get me started on Gears2…Get to X cover…and get your aim where the other persons cover before they do and just wait and sit there till they poke their head out…rinse repeat….its really that easy…thats all you have to do, get to cover first, and wait for them to poke their head sout and bam, i can do that all the time, just wait for the cursor to turn red and it happens evertime…
May 20th, 2009
ohh also… all that crap I had to go through in PSN… turns out it was because of the wireless I was leeching… well… NOW I GOT FIOS! dont gotta worry bout lag no more… WOOT!
May 20th, 2009
Yeah Jojo, Gears and Halo sucked, that’s probably why they have sold millions upon millions of copies….
May 20th, 2009
“looks like carlb owes someone an apology.”
Nope. Sorry phranc, but I remember when this was posted as:
“Square Enix execs have said they will not start development of Xbox 360 version until PS3 is 100% complete”
gamer.blorge.com/2009/01/15/blame-microsoft-for-final-fantasy-xiii-delay-on-ps3/
Now the story is “finishing touches” won’t be started until after the PS3 version is 100% complete.
Any guess as to what these “finishing touches” will be? My bet is achievements instead of trophies, which are traditionally the same for multiplat titles.
Gents, this will have been a confirmed multiplat title developed on a multiplat engine for over two years by the time it is slated for release EXCLUSIVELY ON PS3 in Japan either late this year or as late as April next year.
finalfantasyunion.com/news/square-enix-final-fantasy-xiii-could-be-delayed-further–402.html
The exclusive launch delay on PS3 in Japan is really no surprise considering SE’s workload this year alone:
DS
Kingdom Hearts 358/2 days
Kuroshitsuji: Phantom and ghost (hey, they have a not so easy choice between shit suji and black butler)
Dragon Quest IX
Egg Monster Hero
360
Yosumin Live
PS3
Crystal Defenders
The Last Remnant
Square Enix MMO project (untitled)
Final Fantasy Versus XIII
Wii
Bubble Bobble Plus
Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: My Life as a Dark Lord
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Crystal Bearers
Final Fantasy IV: The After Years
PSP
Dissidia Final Fantasy
Surprise, most of the titles are on the best selling systems, not on those that have done a fraction of their numbers.
Combine this with the other umpteen titles they have released, their philosophy of releasing the next Final Fantasy “when it is ready”, and a standard six month plus localization time (with 360 “finishing touches” complete within said localization window) and you might have some clue as to why this title is taking so long, which is not “Microsoft is to blame”.
Look for this title in the rest of the world where it is not PS3 exclusive mid to late next year.
Here’s a more accurate title, if more convoluted for the uninitiated: “Confirmed: Heavy title workload + Perfectionist Company + Localization = Delay of Final Fantasy XIII”
“If you didn’t already know – the devil’s usually in the details,” Microsoft just isn’t to blame for most of them here.
May 20th, 2009
harry sachz:
That’s one way to say it. Microsoft pay so much damn money for ads that they might had just taken a little bit of cash. But it paid off. It my last for Gears of War but for Halo i highly doubt it Halo 3 and Halo Wars were and still are garbage and Gears of War 2 is full of glitches plus it lost a lot of online fans.
May 20th, 2009
Ivan, I am guessing your sarcasm detector is broken. It’s probably my fault, it doesn’t convey well over the internet.
May 20th, 2009
Sorry, that should have read “Combine this with the other umpteen titles they have released within the last year.”
May 20th, 2009
The only game Microsoft has made that sold good was Halo and that was only because it was hype and advertise draining money like water. I know stupid but that’s Microsoft. On Sony’s part all of their exclusives sale millions without ads. Because they are fucking awesome.
May 20th, 2009
Ivan, what’s the weather like in Fantasyland?
May 20th, 2009
I left a message for you on your webpage, did you get it?
May 20th, 2009
And why did you take your pics down? I used to look at them whenever I needed something to laugh at. Your moustache is incredible.
May 20th, 2009
LMFAO that message shit did not work and still doesn’t and i didn’t take my pictures down the codes did. I laugh every time you try to defend your Gaybox
May 20th, 2009
The codes took your pictures down? And what are the voices in your head telling you?
May 20th, 2009
Hey someone really pissed off CAD ….. Someone wee in his weetbix ??
I used both PSN and Live and speed wise, they were comparable.
May 20th, 2009
@ CAD
I might be the “new fish” here, but i definitely know more about games and game consoles than you do. you dont have to be a rocket scientist to know that the PS3 is the most powerful machine out there. the 360 its maxed out, the PS3 already started.
and please show me your list of 360 games. give me at least 10 “AAA games” coming for the 360. I bet I can give more than 10 for the PS3.
also everybody knows XBL has better features and its more organized but gaming website agree that PSN has better games not just port/remakes of old games(but you wouldn’t know since ur stuck with only Halo and Gears of War)
Every developer in the world knows the PS3 can put up better graphics, sound, more players online and blu ray disc has more space than the x360. so if you a real gamer you souldnt care on what console you play your games as along as you get to play them ALL. NO PS3 = missing about a good 15 “AAA games” this year.
having a 360 = buying only Halo ODST and multiplatfor games.
well thats all for now CAD “old fish” (new fish when it comes to gaming console) I’ll bet waiting for that list of “good” 360 games coming out. (and please dont mention Madden or Call of Duty)
**I know you going to be searching for week
May 20th, 2009
ohh dont say that harry… sales have nothing to do with quality… refute that bitch with “Universal Appeal: From Critics and gamers alike”… not with sales records… even Wii Music sold more than 300000 in 2 months…
carnival games for Wii sold 1 million…
May 20th, 2009
Oh shit where do I start first? Ahhh Fuck it!!! I’m just wasting my time.
May 20th, 2009
So I see that Killzone has yet to crack a Million since it’s release in the US. Awwwhhhh Poor Killzone. It’s OK Maybe one day you’ll sell like Halo & Gears. Even DLC sells more then Killzone. Ivan go buy 10 more copies to help with the stats.
May 20th, 2009
@ CAD
uhmm where is your list?? still searching and still nothing? search harder!! Nothing still, REALLY ?
whats the next 360 exclusive u going to purchase? oh wait thats even a harder question.
let me help you. here is one “good” game (not as good as many ppl think, but thats all the 360 has)
MASS EFFECT 2.
come on 9 more CAD….. you can do it (mayb next year.)
May 20th, 2009
@ CAD
“So I see that Killzone has yet to crack a Million since it’s release in the US.”
Killzone 2 its closing in near 2 million worldwide
the reason it didnt sell well at the beggining was because it cameout in between 3 high profile games – MLB 09: The Show, Street Fighter 4 & Resident Evil 5 – and also not every PS3 ower is a shooter fan. PPL are still buying LBP, MLB 09 the show, etc.
but in about a week we all going to be playing inFAMOUS, what are you going to play?
May 20th, 2009
It was also released at the tail end of the month, which people tend to overlook.
May 20th, 2009
CAD- you’re right. with kz2 pushing less than 1 million in the single largest market (NA) and with the heavy marketting, it just didn’t have the luster the fanboys swore it would.
i’m sure yoiu find it as hilarious as i do that exclusives don’t sell consoles like the ps3 zealouts claim. the ps3 easily has the most exclusives, but the console sells the least of the three. thus PROVING “exclusives” mean squat to consumers. oh well…the fanboys have to brag about something…. if it wasn’t the exclusives, they would brag becuase it was the only console painted black…..
May 20th, 2009
YES! HE IS BACK!… kindly shift your attention to the link on the article on top of gamer blorge… you will find it very interesting…
also… Sales records mean squat if the game isnt any good… you are fighting against fanboys and PR talk… thats a new low…
as I said before… and I keep saying… if Sales were the best way of judging a game… that would mean that Wii Fit is a better game than Halo 3… it would mean that Wii Music is a better game than Braid… because the prior sold a lot more copies than the latter…
May 20th, 2009
I dont think i ever recall seeing kev brag about an exclusive on the 360…not once.
/sarcasm
I’d argue that price is the factor but the wii is blowing the arcade away so it has to be something more.
May 20th, 2009
phranctoast, the wii already had the momentum in lower price before Microsoft brought out the Arcade, by then the damage was done. I do agree in it being something more, mainly Nintendo’s lineup of family friendly fare and simplicity, with few exceptions.
As far as exclusives, I still have to play through Fable 2, Crackdown, Gears 2, Halo 3, Left 4 Dead, Lost Odyssey, etc. This isn’t to brag, as I believe that would be kind of silly even if it did have more exclusives than PS3, considering how much much triple AAA multiplats outnumber exclusives hands down. Right now I’m still going through Professional on RE5, but I doubt I’ll get versus.
May 20th, 2009
Kev,
According to this month’s GameInformer..
360 – 28 million – 4 years
PS3 – 22 million – 3 years
Take into consideration that the 360 has a year head start and the fact that the PS3 has a higher average of units per year sold… it’s not hard to see that with the better line up for the next two years where this is headed. But don’t let reality and facts stand in the way of your spin.
May 20th, 2009
OK New Fish (ROCA) just for your ass. It took 1 search to find it.
‘Splosion Man
1
1 vs. 100 (Xbox 360)
1XR
A
Absolute: Blazing Infinity
Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation
Aegis Wing
America’s Army: True Soldiers
Amped 3
Apocalypse: Desire Next
Assault Heroes 2
Axiom: Overdrive
B
Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts
Bankshot Billiards 2
Basement Pool
Battlezone (XBLA)
Beat’n Groovy
Beautiful Katamari
Blue Dragon
Blue Dragon 2
Bomberman Live
Bomberman: Act Zero
Boom Boom Rocket
Bullet Witch
C
Carcassonne (video game)
Castle Crashers
Catan
Chromehounds
Cloning Clyde
Coffeetime Crosswords
Commanders: Attack of the Genos
Crackdown
Crazy Mouse
Culdcept Saga
D
Dance Dance Revolution Universe
Dance Dance Revolution Universe 2
Dance Dance Revolution Universe 3
Dance Dance Revolution Universe 3 Chinese Music Special Edition
Dancing Stage Universe
Dancing Stage Universe 2
Dash of Destruction
Dead Rising
Dead or Alive 4
Dead or Alive Xtreme 2
DeathSmiles
Demons of Mercy
Diario: Rebirth Moon Legend
The Dishwasher: Dead Samurai
Double D Dodgeball
E
Earth Defense Force 2017
Every Extend Extra Extreme
Every Party
F
F.E.A.R. Files
Fable II
Fable II Pub Games
Forza Motorsport 2
Forza Motorsport 3
Frogger (XBLA)
Full Auto
FunTown Mahjong
Fuzion Frenzy 2
G
Galaga Legions
Gears of War 2
Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 2
Geometry Wars: Waves
Gin Rummy (XBLA)
Go! Go! Break Steady
Golf: Tee It Up!
Guilty Gear 2: Overture
H
Halo 3
Halo 3: ODST
Halo Wars
Hexic 2
HoopWorld
I
The Idolmaster: Live For You!
Import Tuner Challenge
Infinite Undiscovery
J
Jetpac Refuelled
K
Kameo: Elements of Power
Kengo: Legend of the 9
Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom
A Kingdom for Keflings
L
Lips (video game)
Little Gamers (video game)
Lost Cities (video game)
Lost Odyssey
Love Football
M
MLB Stickball
MagnaCarta II
Marble Blast Ultra
Mobile Ops: The One Year War
MotoGP ’06
Mr. Driller Online
Ms. Pac-Man (XBLA)
Mutant Storm Empire
Mutant Storm Reloaded
N
Naruto: Rise of a Ninja
Naruto: The Broken Bond
Ninety-Nine Nights
Ninety-Nine Nights II
Ninja Blade
Ninja Gaiden II (2008 video game)
Novadrome
O
Omega Five
Onechanbara: Bikini Samurai Squad
Operation Darkness
The Outfit (video game)
Over G Fighters
P
Pac-Man Championship Edition
Perfect Dark Zero
Pinball FX
Poker Smash
P cont.
Project Gotham Racing 3
Project Gotham Racing 4
Project Sylpheed
Q
Quarrel (video game)
R
Race Pro
Raiden Fighters Aces
Raiden IV
Ridge Racer 6
Rocket Riot
Rocky and Bullwinkle (video game)
Rumble Roses XX
S
Saints Row (video game)
Scene It? Box Office Smash
Scene It? Lights, Camera, Action
Schizoid (video game)
Screwjumper!
Shadow Assault: Tenchu
Shed (videogame)
Shred Nebula
Shrek n’ Roll
Small Arms (video game)
Soltrio Solitaire
Sonic the Hedgehog (XBLA)
South Park (2009 video game)
Spectral Force 3: Innocent Rage
Speedball 2: Brutal Deluxe (XBLA)
SpongeBob SquarePants: Underpants Slam
Spyglass Board Games
Star Ocean: The Last Hope
Stoked
Street Trace NYC
T
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (XBLA)
Tenchu Z
Tengai Makyou Ziria: Haruka naru Jipang
Tetris Splash
Tetris: The Grand Master
Texas Hold ‘em (video game)
Ticket to Ride (video game)
Too Human
TotemBall
U
Undertow (video game)
Unnamed Treasure Shooter
Uno Rush
V
Vigilante 8 Arcade
Viva Piñata: Party Animals
Viva Piñata: Trouble in Paradise
W
WarTech: Senko No Ronde
Wing Commander Arena
Wits and Wagers (video game)
Word Puzzle (video game)
X
Xbox Live Arcade Unplugged
Y
Yaris (video game)
You’re in the Movies
Z
Zombie Wranglers
May 20th, 2009
“i’m sure yoiu find it as hilarious as i do that exclusives don’t sell consoles like the ps3 zealouts claim”
I’m confused, kev. I know you and I almost never see eye to eye, but haven’t you ALWAYS said that it’s the games that sell the console, hence the 360′s alleged superiority?
If it’s not the games, then what, in your opinion, is moving consoles this gen?
-Arvis
May 20th, 2009
sorry, should read “much more” instead of “much much”.
May 20th, 2009
Barnabe, your theory was supposed to have panned out last year or this year, but it hasn’t. We’ll see in another couple of years (as each year is continuously labeled “The Year of the PS3″), but right now it seems safe to say that Microsoft has more than switched the tables on Sony so far for this gen’s hardware and software sales.
Sony still has a very, very long road ahead of it before it can even come close to having PS3 outsell 360 in overall sales, and they need to pick up the pace significantly if they wish to do so this gen, which doesn’t look like it will happen. If we took a time machine and released them both at the same time PS3 probably would have outsold 360, but could of and should of doesn’t really matter now. $100+ price drop and PS2 bc back in will make all the difference in the world for them, but they can’t afford it right now, maybe soon.
May 20th, 2009
“If it’s not the games, then what, in your opinion, is moving consoles this gen?”
Actually it is the games, just not solely exclusives. What game console is the best base entry for gaming considering price, performance, and total games? 360. Want a few more exclusives, free online multiplayer, bluray, and wireless, get a PS3 for $150+.
May 20th, 2009
Kev
Where have you been. Welcome back dude. After playing the PS3 on the weekend I found it so easy to find flaws in this wanna be system. It’s really a complete joke and a sorry excuse for a game console. I have to wonder why these guys would slit their wrist for this thing. It’s such an overpriced piece of bullshit. It actually should be the cheapest console on the market. I see more worth in the Wii.
May 20th, 2009
CAD, he did say exclusives…for this year and the upcoming year….most of what you listed is multi-plat…try again please
May 20th, 2009
I have to wonder why someone bothers to compose posts expressing thier hate for a piece of plastic/metal/-insert random deadly chemical here-
Oh thats right, you don’t own one.
My mistake, nothing to see here…
May 20th, 2009
LIST WARS!!! LIST WARS!!!!
May 20th, 2009
“but in about a week we all going to be playing inFAMOUS, what are you going to play?”
Awww see, you gotta be careful with stuff like that.
He won’t forget,.. If it(infamous) bombs (review wise) then you’re gonna get slapped upside the head about it, over and over and over!..
Now…
MOAR LISTS!!!
MOAR LISTS!!!
MOAR LISTS!!!
May 20th, 2009
“i’m sure yoiu find it as hilarious as i do that exclusives don’t sell consoles like the ps3 zealouts claimâ€
-News flash: Out of the PS3s top 10 best selling games, 8 are from Sony’s first party studios. GTA 4 and COD 4 being the only multiplatform games on the list. So you may want to reevaluate that statement.
PS3 people,
Demon’s Souls announced for the US! Add another PS3 exclusive to the list boys. There are so many coming out it’s hard to keep track.
May 20th, 2009
Carl,
If we look at average of Console’s sold per year… “Xbox 3rd60″ would be an appropriate statement.
May 20th, 2009
Barnabe Jones,
I’m going to put that last statement with your ‘Cnet is owned by Microsoft’ pile.
The 360 has been outselling the PS3 for a good part of a year. No amount of spin is going to refute that claim.
May 20th, 2009
but.. Wikipedia says so!
May 20th, 2009
Fanboy wars, Fanboy wars ….. yay
Good to see Kev is back with his US superiority complex though. Yeah thats right Kev, the only place in the world that matters is the US eh.
May 20th, 2009
haha god bless Wikipedia.
May 21st, 2009
jojo,
“….most of what you listed is multi-plat…try again please.”
Why care when the vast majority of really great games are multiplat anyway. 5+ exclusive games worth mentioning aren’t really going to make a huge difference for Sony when the competition has already got 200+ games (with generally favorable reviews) worth playing on it’s console.
It’s great they plan on bringing these titles out, but it is it really going to make that much of a difference now? God of War and a few JRPG’s are the only ones I’m looking towards, and I want to get the PS3 sometime in the future, but still can’t justify the cost of another system.
If Sony left Home at home and instead put all that money into leaving PS2 bc back in and getting a price drop done they would have been sitting in a much better position right now.
At this point spending 30-60 million (in comparison to 10 million for Gears of War) for titles like KZ2 with only minor graphical improvements and some polishing on what has already been done before on other systems is really going past the point of diminishing returns. Besides, they can’t even keep Sony properties like Ghostbusters exclusive now because of infighting.
May 21st, 2009
Barnabe,
“News flash: Out of the PS3s top 10 best selling games, 8 are from Sony’s first party studios. GTA 4 and COD 4 being the only multiplatform games on the list.”
News flash: The PS3′s top 10 amount to a fraction of the numbers 360 has sold. While Sony may have a whopping total of 5 (not 8. These are Resistance, Motorstorm, Prologue, Uncharted, and LBP) out of those ten from it’s first party studios, Microsoft still has 4 out of it’s ten, and it’s exclusive titles and third party multiplats still sell better than PS3′s top ten in the same relative position.
At least 4 out of 5 of Sony’s top ten best sellers have been pack-ins bundled with the console, accounting for much of their sales, and 3 of those 5 are old launch titles, while 2 of the 5 sell for $20 or less.
More importantly, only 2 out of the PS3′s top reviewed 10 games are from it’s first party studios, with Microsoft doing a little better with 3. Basically, what this means is multiplat is still king and exclusives are a dying breed with diminishing returns. God of War 3 and GT5 may be the exception to the trend of Sony Studio games not doing as well as they expected, but that’s still a ways from now.
Regardless, if you are going to spend hundreds of millions, if not billions on buying up every other studio and developing exclusive games, they better be your best performers for your system. Unfortunately for Sony, they still aren’t, with it’s top 3 bestselling games still coming from 3rd parties and IP it doesn’t own, and even these 3 only do a little better than half as well on PS3 as they do on 360.
For the record, in addition to GTA IV and CoD 4 MW, the other third party titles are MGS4, Assassin’s Creed, and CoD WaW making up the top ten best selling PS3 titles.
May 21st, 2009
Correction: should read “Microsoft doing a little better with 4 out of it’s top ten that it has published” (not from 1st party studios).
May 21st, 2009
Heheh, you’ve been making alot of corrections as of late
Just sayin’, just found it funny…
May 21st, 2009
SW… inFamous didnt bomb… Joystiq called it the best superhero game they have ever played… Greg Miller over at IGN creamed himself over it… he is the first one to get a platinum on it too…
its a critical hit… now we gotta watch the numbers and see how many stingy PS3 owners buy it… fucking ps3 owners
May 21st, 2009
dwh, it’s getting some mixed opinions. Eurogamer gave it a 70. Not that 70 is a bad score, it just doesn’t seem to be everyone’s cup of tea.
May 21st, 2009
“It just doesn’t seem to be everyone’s cup of tea”
Wow, are you claiming that for a game not to be a failure it HAS to be everyone’s cup of tea? Fucking moron.
May 21st, 2009
‘SW… inFamous didnt bomb… ‘
Good for Roca, no slapping upside the head for him/her!
May 21st, 2009
Don’t be so sensitive Jofa. I was not the one who gave it 70, dickhole. You may want to re-read my post, it was only two sentences. In those two sentences I said that 70 was not a bad score. I can’t see where I said it failed…dickhole.
It obviously wasn’t that particular reviewer’s cup of tea.
May 21st, 2009
Dickhole…
May 21st, 2009
Eurogamer has no credibility left…
inFamous demo today can’t wait to play it over and over until i get the full pre-ordered copy the 26th.
May 21st, 2009
I’ve a question for 360 fanboys talking about sales all the time. When PS3 surpasses 360 in sales, what will you say? It’s like you guys are celebrating premature ejaculation hahaha. It’s tired and old hearing this sales discussion.
Anybody keep up with NBA at all? Let me give you an example here. When the Mavericks made it to the Finals 2 (Or was it 3) years ago, they were favored to win 4-0 when they enjoyed a 2-0 lead against the Miami Heat. Keep in mind they also had the best regular season record with 67 wins that year. Miami had something like 52, I THINK. What nobody saw coming was Dwayne Wade and his relentless effort to take the series over, which he did. To make matters worst, they destroyed Dallas on their home floor!
Honestly I can’t remember the last part exactly if they beat us in Dallas. I just remember being disgusted with Dallas (I was born and raised here in Dallas), and couldn’t believe they lost despite the odds being in their favor. See how sales don’t matter? I can do sports analogies all day here. Anyways, give credit where credit is due guys. Sony has got their shit together this year, and they have the line-up to prove it.
If I (being a big Dallas Mavs fanboy) can get over the biggest lost in Mavs history – and believe me you didn’t want to be near me those days – and give credit to Wade and his squad for playing phenomenal. Surely, you can get over M$ and their shortcomings this year, and give Sony credit when its obviously due. Swallow that silly fanboy pride, you have no real argument, only butthurt egos
May 21st, 2009
@ CAD
Jojo29 – “CAD, he did say exclusives…for this year and the upcoming year….most of what you listed is multi-plat…try again please”
somebody knows how to read. im glad you find a bunch of old crap. but we want to see your 360 list for 2009. come on!!! its not that hard for a PS3 owner to list 15 of them of the top of their head. CAD the “new fish” is waiting for you to back up ur comments. next to bring a list of stupid games nobody plays. what i asked for was a list of 10 “AAA games” for the 360 that are coming out this year.
CAD …….. ill be waiting.
@ SW
“If it(infamous) bombs (review wise) then you’re gonna get slapped upside the head about it”
FYI Sony doesnt make bad games. The only two games that bombed were NOT made by Sony:
- Lair (made by Factor-5)
- Haze (Made by FreeRadical)
@ CAD
…..Im still waiting man, If your going to call me NEW FISH, you better act like the OLD FISH because right now ur the one who seem out of place and struggling to find the 10 games to back up your comments.
May 21st, 2009
You guys are funny ….. dickhole ROFLMAO
May 21st, 2009
dickhole cracked me up.
infamous is created by suckerpunch.
they are an independant company that works exclsuively with Sony. (East Sleep Play)
May 21st, 2009
infamous is created by suckerpunch.
they are an independant company that works exclsuively with Sony.
(East Sleep Play) < — you mean Eat, Sleep & Play, which is dave Jeffe new game studio and it doesnt have anything to do with SuckerPunch.
I never said Sony owns SuckerPunch, I say “games that Sony makes” what im trying to say is that Sony is paying for the game to be made. SuckerPunch is making it but the funding its coming out of Sonys pocket.
May 21st, 2009
Hey! I have Haze and I like it.
In fact I have 12 games now (including the Orange box which is 5 games in one) and I have yet to find one I don’t like.
I like every game I have played on my PS3 so far.
CAD, your just jealous because you can’t afford a PS3. Tell the truth now.
May 21st, 2009
“Dickhole”…did you get that from Yahtzee, harry…?
May 21st, 2009
YAHTZEE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 21st, 2009
He called people on Xbox Live a “bunch of hooting dickholes”…
May 21st, 2009
Without looking it up… I’ll say Edge gives Infamous a 60 or so. There such a bunch of arseholes.
May 21st, 2009
OMG Trico looks Awesome!!! Sony keeps delivering
May 21st, 2009
Ok…Jaffes company is called Eat Sleep Play and not Eat, Sleep and Play. I mentioned it because it’s also an independant studio. I didn’t believe it would warrant further explanation.
It appeared that you thought Sony owned the studio, which is not true.
anyway.
where is this Trico info?
I thought we were stuck waiting for E3…
May 21st, 2009
Dude, check it out:
joystiq.com/2009/05/19/rumor-team-icos-third-project-trico-revealed/
- I posted this before, but it got lost in the list nonsense. Looks like it mixes ICO and SotC, with almost with A Never Ending Story kind of vibe. Really looking forward to it.
May 21st, 2009
look google “Trico project” and watch the video
May 21st, 2009
Carl, I was looking at a pre-COD waw list and counted MGS. Do you have an updated link? I can’t find a one.
CoD 4 & Cod WaW huh? I’ll be serously pissed if CoD MW2 ends up there (which it probably will). Do we really need the same game repacked to us three separate times? Apparently people think so.
May 21st, 2009
Barnabe Jones,
I agree you with, im starting to hate the franchise because its all the same.
but for some ppl once they get used to one game thats all they are going to play. that is why many ppl didnt like the Killzone 2 control scheme because it was different than CoD. they want all the games to be like call of duty for the getgo that why they didnt even spend some time to figure out that u CAN CHANGE the KZ2 control layout to the CoD layout.
But so far it looks like its going to be the same game as the previous two. the graphics doesnt impress me anymore.
May 21st, 2009
It sends a message to developers though, that people want the same thing over and over again. Why risk creating something new, when you can repackage something the same thing again. Case in point: Guitar Hero.
May 21st, 2009
@ Roca
CAD, he did say exclusives…for this year and the upcoming year….most of what you listed is multi-plat…try again please
You see this is what I’m getting at. While some decent games have finally arrived in 2009 that you have been waiting for since 2007 then pushed back to 2008 then finally a promise of games in 2009, 360 owners have always been getting game and were not focused on what might come. I’m going to laugh my ass off at the end of this year when half of what is promised to you doesn’t come out. Then you’ll be saying it’s all about 2010. I don’t know anyone who has even played a fraction of the list I just dropped. I know I haven’t and there is plenty coming and plenty to go back to. So you focus on 2009 and I’ll focus on the entire 360 Library. I don’t need to be excited about a perticular year or what exclusive you have in 2009 vs what 360 releases in 2009 because the entire exclusive list makes your 2009 list a complete joke. Besides what has been released for the PS3 in 2009. Killzone and MLB the Show. And really MLB The show is not a game people care about so your left with Killzone. Meanwhile the 360′s 2009 exclusive release consist of:
Star Trek: D-A-C (Arcade)
Fable II: See the Future (DLC)
Battlestations: Pacific
Space Invaders Extreme (Arcade)
Arkanoid Live! (Arcade)
Fallout 3: Broken Steel (DLC)
GTA: The Lost and the Damned (DLC)
Ninja Blade
Banjo-Tooie (Arcade)
Virtual-On: Oratorio Tangram (Arcade)
Lode Runner (Arcade)
Velvet Assassin
Dishwasher: Dead Samurai, The (Arcade)
Uno Rush (Arcade)
Fallout 3: The Pitt (DLC)
Peggle (Arcade)
Crystal Defenders (Arcade)
Halo Wars
Onechanbara: Bikini Samurai Squad
Fallout 3: Operation Anchorage (DLC)
Hasbro Family Game Night: Battleship (Arcade)
Hasbro Family Game Night: Connect Four (Arcade)
Hasbro Family Game Night: Scrabble (Arcade)
Hasbro Family Game Night: Sorry! (Arcade)
Hasbro Family Game Night: Yahtzee (Arcade)
NCAA Basketball 09: March Madness Edition
Race Pro
Raiden Fighters Aces
R-Type Dimensions
Star Ocean: The Last Hope
Stoked
Tomb Raider Underworld: Beneath the Ashes (DLC)
Tomb Raider Underworld: Lara’s Shadow (DLC)
WSC Real 09: World Snooker Championship
Rez HD (Arcade)
1 vs 100
Maw, The (Arcade)
Some games are good and some are bad but just look at the selection. Plus you have to realise that some of the games have online which extend the play for months plus the DLC that may come with some games. Halo 3 is still the #1 online game being played on LIVE. So really cut the 2009 nonsense because it really makes no sense.
May 21st, 2009
Wow, Jofa… way out of line.
Another college buddy of mine is getting a PS3, finally. He’s excited enough about inFamous to buy the console for it. I haven’t really been on the inFamous bandwagon before, but I’ll be renting it now just to figure out why everyone’s so excited.
-Arvis
May 21st, 2009
CAD, you should really learn to proof read…Fallout DLC is not 360 exclusive; and incidentally it never was, considering it was already on the PC.
So, can we clear something up here: If a game/content is on the 360 and PC, is it still classed as a 360 exclusive…like CAD is claiming with Fallout, or not?
I remember kev getting upset at the insinuation that BioShock was a 360 exclusive when it was already on the PC.
Please advise.
May 21st, 2009
Roca,
“FYI Sony doesnt make bad games. The only two games that bombed were NOT made by Sony:
- Lair (made by Factor-5)
- Haze (Made by FreeRadical)”
“I never said Sony owns SuckerPunch, I say “games that Sony makes†what im trying to say is that Sony is paying for the game to be made. SuckerPunch is making it but the funding its coming out of Sonys pocket.”
Sony paid Factor 5 and Free Radical. Saying Sony (or Microsoft for that matter) company doesn’t or hasn’t made bad games in the past (or paid for a game that turned out bad) is just blind fanboyism. Some other stinkers (generally negative reviews) from Sony (made or published by):
Go! Sports Skydiving
Super Rub a Dub
Novastrike
only slightly better than these are:
Wheel of Fortune
Genji: Days of the Blade
Untold Legends Dark Kingdom
Nucleus
to name just a few.
May 21st, 2009
lockdown,
I would say for people like myself who only use their laptop for general use and not gaming, saying something that is on only 360 and PC is exclusive to 360 when discussing home consoles, as it would be if a game was available only on PS3 and PC.
On a side not and speaking only for myself, I do not ever wish to mess with PC gaming, video cards, patches, ram upgrades, etc ever again (this coming from a former top of the line pc owner and trained pc hardware tech).
May 21st, 2009
‘FYI Sony doesnt make bad games.’
That would be a matter of opinion
Still, Ill look into getting it, sick of being burnt with shitty games tho (yes ill admit I purchased Hawx for PC, see, SEE!!?!?)…
May 21st, 2009
@Carlb – I shake my head in your general direction!!!
PC gaming is awesome
May 21st, 2009
@ CAD AKA Tuna Fish
Looking at your list make me feel sad about 360 owner. its really sad that thats all you can come up with.
I asked “AAA games†and this what you give me…REALLY!!!? (and dont start with DLC because I can list about 50 DLC just for PS3- just name a few (Buzz TV, Resistance 2, Killzone 2, LBP, PAIN, MGS4, Mirrors Edge, PixelJunk Monster and Eden, etc)
I admire your guts though, I ask for good games and all you give me is crap:
Took you 2-3 days come come up with: (leave DLC and Arcade games out)
1. Stoked
2. Raiden Fighters Aces
3. Race Pro
4. Onechanbara: Bikini Samurai Squad
5. Velvet Assassin
6. Battlestations: Pacific
7. Ninja Blade
8. Halo Wars
9. R-Type Dimensions
10. Star Ocean: The Last Hope
How many of these games you or any 360 owner are going to buy? NONE of them right!! The Wii has better games than those 10.
of the top of my head look at 10 PS3 games coming this year:
1. Killzone 2
2. inFAMOUS
3. Heavy Rain
4. MAG
5. White Knight Chronicles
6. Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crank in Time
7. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
8. Demon’s Souls
9. Cavia
10. Last Rebellion
I can keep going, but 10 is enough just to be fair.
CAD if can back up ur comments dont waste everybody’s time and admit the PS3 has better games than your old 360.
(all those game in my list bring something NEW to the gaming world starting with Killzone. you can figure out the rest on ur own)
May 21st, 2009
@ Carlb
Novastrike and Nucleus are not from Sony;
and your right the other you mention are garbage. so thats 5 in total.
May 21st, 2009
“On a side not and speaking only for myself, I do not ever wish to mess with PC gaming, video cards, patches, ram upgrades, etc ever again”
Amen to that
May 21st, 2009
booooo
May 21st, 2009
lock_down, nah I think I stole it from South Park. But Yahtzee is correct, there are some dickholes on Live. Things such as having someone tell me that they have fornicated with my mother just because I gave him a ‘Draw Four’ on Uno is a little much.
May 21st, 2009
I’m sure there’s plenty of people like that on PSN…though when you’re in Home you get put with people from all over Europe, so half the time you’ve got no idea what they’re writing or what language they’re using.
Though to be honest I hardly ever play online…some people take it far too seriously. Some people on MotorStorm have done thousands upon thousands of races with a ridiculous win ratio…I dunno, that sort of stuff just puts me off.
I just prefer local multi-player….not least because I get to pull smug faces at my mate when I win
May 22nd, 2009
Roca,
“and your right the other you mention are garbage. so thats 5 in total.”
I included Nucleus and Novastrike because you said (to phranctoast) when “I say “games that Sony makes†what im trying to say is that Sony is paying for the game to be made”… and I also said these were just to name a few. Here is some more if you are not satisfied yet (again made or published by Sony):
Go! Puzzle
Pixeljunk Racers
Trials of Topoq
SOCOM Confrontation
Buzz! Brain of the UK
Snakeball
to name a few more. So yes, now we do realize that Sony is also capable of making bad games and you can stop saying things like “Sony doesn’t make bad games”.
May 22nd, 2009
SW,
I don’t know, it seems PC gaming isn’t what it used to be when Command and Conquer, Total Annihilation, Fallout, Diablo, and Baldur’s Gate first came out to Elder Scrolls Morrowind. Consoles managed to improve greatly after that thanks to borrowing many things from the PC. Granted, graphics and control are not as great on some games, but the majority are still being released on consoles, while the differences, unless you are talking price (speaking only for myself again), are minor.
I realize you can get a fairly decent laptop/pc for the same price as a home console rig altogether, but I would have to set the games to the highest level if I were going to play them, and that calls for a new $300+ video card every year or so. I’m still grateful for pc gaming because I get to enjoy it’s fringe benefits on the console, it’s just not worth it to me, money and time wise.
May 22nd, 2009
Its kind of ironic that some of the best ideas on consoles were borrowed from pc, whilst some of the worst features in games are taken from consoles
(matchmaking sucks and PC games that impliment it need to go burn, rot, burn some more and then fucking die…)
May 22nd, 2009
That should be ‘worst features in PC games’…
May 22nd, 2009
You can’t get a good gaming PC for the cost of a consol.
I just paid $1500 and it’s still not the best gaming PC. It works well and plays games like Far cry and Crysis but the video card is still not the best out there. I would need to spend another $600 to $900 for the best video card.
May 22nd, 2009
1 ATI 4890 for about 250 (CAD) is all you need to max out most of those games. (unless you are playing on a 2560×1600 30 inch monitor, anyhow).
May 22nd, 2009
exept Crysis, which I would naturally want to max out.
May 22nd, 2009
I would probably get a Playstation 3 before I got a gaming PC.
ncaissie, I was including the cost of the tv and stereo as opposed to a monitor and speakers.
May 22nd, 2009
Booooo (again).
May 22nd, 2009
Alright SW, you win. What are your favorite ten games exclusive to PC that have been released in the last year?
May 22nd, 2009
No idea.
May 23rd, 2009
I WANNA ANOTHER LIST……GIVE IT NOW !!!!!
May 23rd, 2009
I’ve only played a handful of PC games in my time. FF XI being one of the more enjoyable. The monthly fees for MMORPGs is what drove me away.
I prefer console controllers over keyboard and mouse. Also it seems like there are a lot more exclusive console games being released over the PC.
May 23rd, 2009
Did you like FF XI a lot Barnabe? I was thinking of picking up the 360 2008 Vana’diel Collection version from Amazon for $18…
May 26th, 2009
MMORPGs are evil. They ruin people’s lives. Don’t do it, Carl!!!
-Arvis
May 26th, 2009
I have known this since Everquest, but the temptation consisting of a magical combination of low price and achievements on my console is too great. I must submit to the siren call for the first time.
May 26th, 2009
No, Carl!! NOOOOOOOO!!!!
*sobs*
Carl… why… *sob sob*
-Arvis