E3 09: What Sony needs to do to win E3 – PS3
As E3 gears up for a fantastic showing next week, many have begun speculating on what will be announced. It seems like the rumor mill has been churning away extra hard for this E3, with announcements ranging from new controllers to massive price drops. Will Sony have the ammo to win E3 this year?
Sony has been on a roll this year with one AAA game after another. The pacing seems much better with the game releases this year then before. As a heavy hardcore gamer this was a great thing as I usually knock out games in two to three sittings on average. You could say that I have beaten most of the ‘good’ games out on the Xbox 360 and PS3, so a continuous monthly stream of great games is always greatly appreciated.
There is no arguing that Sony probably has the best ‘revealed’ lineup this year. It seems like Sony has remedied one of the biggest criticisms it received in 2007 (launch year) which was that the PS3 had ‘no games.’ Today, the system sports a robust library of games as well as many AAA titles on the horizon for this year. The one announcement Sony could make at E3 to steal the show would be a massive price drop to the PS3.
Honestly, I highly doubt that Sony will do this during the middle of the year, but if Sony were to make such a massive announcement then they would save it for Christmas of this year. The system is definitely at the point where a price cut is desperately needed to reach the next tier of audience the Xbox 360 has already reached.
As a three console owner, I know that semantically the PS3 is really not all that expensive when compared to how much the Wii or Xbox 360 ends up costing after everything is said and done. However, as with pretty much everything in life – perception is key. The PS3 die-hardcore audience has already purchased the system by now. However, it is time to open the flood gates and pave the way for the rest of the consumers this holiday season. Make sure to stay tuned for my take on Microsoft for E3 soon.
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May 25th, 2009
Sony need to come out and just say that it’s been a bad year for the whole of Sony.
If Tretton comes out and starts proclaiming about “record year”, “best ever” or something similar, then it’s just stupid, coz it clearly ain’t been a good year.
Other than that, I am looking forward to getting GOW3, GT5 (hopefully) and Heavy Rain release dates. Heavy Rain looks absolutely off the hook.
May 26th, 2009
lock_down:
Sony doesn’t to that shit so shhh please. They have a record hot exclusive this year that makes a record year. I’m glad you a PS3 lover too is an amazing system with awesome must have exclusives.
Microsoft, we all know nothing they say at this E3 can’t help them no exclusives well maybe 1 maybe. No high end movie playback player aka no Blu-ray support. And Wii style controller will be a horrible idea especially for them.
Nintendo, well that’s gonna blow we all know nothing they show at this E3 can’t impress anyone Wii is just too outdated and ugly.
Sony got this won already…
May 26th, 2009
what sony needs to do is if they are going to drop the price they should take out features just like the 360 with there sku’s…take out wi-fi,battery ran controller,smaller hdd, ps2 support back in, and it would sell…ill almost bet sony will put ps2 back in along with an update for us 40 gig and newer models
May 26th, 2009
carl would you buy my model?
May 26th, 2009
I don’t think they should say ‘hey its been a wank year’ more of a ‘we could’ve done better’.
I think theres a slight difference there.
Drop price, drop price, drop price. Crank up your advertising, and make it mean stuff instead of ‘wow, look at that eyeball floating in space ont he back of a pasta shell, oh and theres the PS3 nova!’ (yes I made that up). Show your effin product and its features ffs.
May 26th, 2009
Massive price drop and putting BC back in would help. The PS3 should not have stayed at the same price for as long as it has, obviously the technology cost in regards to blu-ray drives has dropped, surely.
I think it would be silly for Sony to waste their time talking about games, unless they’re announcing new ones. Talking about games already announced is a bit of a waste.
I am interested to see what both Sony and Microsoft’s motion sensing peripherals are like.
May 26th, 2009
It’s becoming pretty clear what Sony are actually doing; by keeping the PS3 at high price, they’re artificially extending its life cycle.
I’m with harry. Put BC back in and completely revamp the PSN store and load it choc-a-bloc with hundreds of PS1, PS2 and PSP games.
When you think about the games library that the PS1 and PS2 have accrued, only offering a handful of PS1 games on PSN is just pathetic.
May 26th, 2009
they should have flame bait ads comparing its features with xbox’s
May 26th, 2009
Drop the price Sony! Drop the friggin price! It’s the only thing people are really whining about now.
May 26th, 2009
harry sachz:
lock_down:
kevo:
Bourne:
Finally kudos to all four of you.
They shouldn’t sell mediocre SKU by taking features that robbery and stupid.
Motion sensing for PS3 not gonna happen. At least not like the Wii we already have motion sending controller.
They should add a lot more PS One classic plus more PSN games like Warhawk Ratchet & Clank Future: Quest For Booty with trophies and online support.
Sony needs to make ads comparing Xbox and PS3 side by side so people can see why it cost more.
Backwards compatibility would be awesome for the cheap people that got models with out that feature. They should try to bring it back as add-on update but not free for at least $20.
Dropping the price is also a great idea they will sell more and make profit faster trust me is like common sense.
Plus we need a party system fast please.
PS3 still is the best system.
I’m gonna go to this years E3.
May 26th, 2009
If a price drop is coming I don’t see it happening before the holiday season. No way they are going to announce a price drop at E3 if they do not plan on implementing it very soon after the announcement. I just see a price drop coming late October to mid November. Summer time is known to be a bit slim with high profile releases. The holidays and winter are when most of these titles are released. AAA titles with a decent price drop should really help Sony this holiday season. Honestly could care less as I already have a PS3, people just better not hold their breath, I’m pretty sure it’s not going to happen at E3!
That aside I don’t see the harm in Sony and Microsoft bringing their own form of motion controls. If I don’t like it I won’t buy it, simple really! Can’t wait to see what the big 3 have in store this year.
May 26th, 2009
“As a three console owner, I know that semantically the PS3 is really not all that expensive when compared to how much the Wii or Xbox 360 ends up costing after everything is said and done.”
For all of you who dont see how Microsoft is ripping you off.
PS3 — $400, the rest on games PERIOD.
X360 — $300 and about $600 over 4 years (since it came out in 2005) $200 for XBL ($50/year) $20 for Batteries, $100 for Wi-fi, $100-$150 (extra HDD for the arcade and the 20GB ppl). and whats even worse – spending money being the same game because ur system scratch you old copy.
May 26th, 2009
Take out the WiFi and put the BC back in (WiFi is nice for some, but real online gamers plug in) Bundle it with the PS Eye, a rechargeable wireless keyboard and 3 games (decent choices, not Lair, Folklore and Area 51 for example) and sell it for what is at now.
Second bundle – No Keyboard, no PS Eye, No Wifi, No games same hardware sku, drop the price to 300.
May 26th, 2009
The Bottom line is Microsoft is taking E3 this year agian just watch and see.
May 26th, 2009
Harry to be honest even though the Motion sensing will probably be there I personally don’t think that will be the big news. I think the games will take presidence.
May 26th, 2009
Kotaku recently did a fact check of last years E3. Tretton is a pretty down to earth on the ball kind of guy. He didn’t say anything that wasn’t true last year.
I think from Sony this year, we are going to see a lot of release dates for there games: Heavy Rain, Trico, Uncharted 2, Ratchet, MAG, White Knight, etc.
As far as hardware, I’ll bet the price drop will not be announced until fall. We still might see the PSP go, PS3 slim, or the Wii mote.
Possible new games: Jaffey already confirmed his game will not be shown. Trico will be made official. Maybe GT5, StarHawk, & Persona 5. I’m sure they’ll have something else up there sleeves though.
May 26th, 2009
Duh, I forgot Metal Gear. It’s still up in the air at the moment, but if MGS5 gets PS3 exclusivity, that it be an automatic win for Sony.
May 26th, 2009
Apparently there is five clocks counting down on Kojima web site and one of the clocks expire on June 1 2009 the same day of Microsofts E3 Press confrence. It is believe that Kojima will announce a 360 exclusive. It is believe to be Zone of the Enders 3. Apparently there are these symbols that flash in the background every few seconds and it flashes “5“, “3“, “E“, and a lower case “e”. Apparently the lower case “e” looks to me more like a reversed “9“. The symbols start in a certain order and then they become random for about two minutes before resetting again to the initial order which is the following: “5“, then “3“, and then “E“; that is the constant order that is repeated every two minutes. So since the last “e” is reversed if you reverse the other letters you got “Z” “E” “3″ AKA Zone of Enders 3. Look for that to be an exclusive announcement.
May 26th, 2009
Apparently back in December of 2005, in issue 152 of Game Informer, when asked about the possibility of MGS4 coming to the Xbox 360, Kojima stated that he started the project on the PS3; therefore, he would prefer to focus on that version only. However, in that same interview, he did hint at the possibility of developing MGS5 on the Xbox 360 and focus on that version only! In fact, his exact words were the following: ” if I were to create MGS5 or another title for the 360, I would create solely for the 360, taking advantage of the hardware, and would not convert to PS3
Just some food for thought.
May 26th, 2009
Sony?
They are losing too much money now for anything of any real significance to happen before X-mas – and even then I’d say hopes of a genuinely ‘big’ cut are totally unrealistic day-dreaming.
That just continues to play into Microsoft’s hands (and since last Sept that will just continue to be the locked in advantage for Xbox for this entire gen now).
Besides, the general state of the economy has just started to show in gaming.
No matter what anyone does now gaming (for everyone) is set for a relatively poor run, and probably a very poor run, for the next 12mths at least.
Barring a true revelation, everything else will just be trinkets and the occasional interesting announcement.
Sorry to say it but IMHO the net result of anything coming out of E3 will be completely over-shadowed by the tanking global economy.
Nintendo & Microsoft are best placed to ride it out but Sony continue to ‘reverse Midas touch’ everything they touch atm.
May 26th, 2009
Metal Gear 360 exclusive confirmed: MGS5: Substandard
May 26th, 2009
Yeah, I am not going to be surprised if it is multiplatform. Kojima is running the add for the game in a few PS3/PSP exclusive magazines, so it’s all but confirmed for either of those systems. Still, if it were to remain a PS3 exclusive that would be huge for Sony at E3.
The whole count down until M$’s E3 speech, makes me think MGS5 will be this years FF 13 for M$.
May 26th, 2009
I don’t see any real sense in taking MGS4/5 multi-plat. Let’s face it, the people who wanted to play MGS4 have already bought a PS3…and so the PS3 market is going to be their largest market for MGS5.
The 30 million people who bought a 360 didn’t buy it with the anticipation of playing any MGS games, so it doesn’t really make sense re-engineering the optimized PS3 MGS4 engine for the 360 when no-one bought one to play MGS games.
FFXIII was always going multi-plat…that’s clear to anyone with a brain when you look at how long its taking and the development cost.
May 26th, 2009
CAD:
Microsoft had the worst e3 last year and this year doesn’t look like it will be any different so stop it already.
And no Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots will not be going to the Xbox 360 ever especially not MGS5 if they make it which i think they might hopefully. Sony has a lot of deals with Konami like the Metal Gear film so there’s no way in hell is ever going multi-plaform also SCEA has a exclusive lifetime deal for that game.
E-mail Konami and your answer will be we don’t comment on rumor or speculation. Is a PS3 lifetime exclusive e-mail ask them and see for yourself.
Xbox 360 can’t handle MGS5 is %100 impossible fact proven.
Sony is the big dog of all things gaming…
KEEP DREAMNING
May 26th, 2009
“However, in that same interview, he did hint at the possibility of developing MGS5 on the Xbox 360 and focus on that version only! In fact, his exact words were the following: ” if I were to create MGS5 or another title for the 360, I would create solely for the 360, taking advantage of the hardware, and would not convert to PS3″
- That was just a general question and he gave them a general answer
After MGS4 Kojima said “the Game could have only been done on the PS3″, Otacon/Kojima even made fun of the 360 in MGS4 (chapter 4 if i recall correct) by saying “theres no need to change disc, the game its being played on a bluray disc and thats their new technoloy)
So..after the success of MGS4, how many ppl think a Master mind like Kojima is going to downgrade its sequel to the 360 level?
Zone of the Enders 3 maybe, MGS5 not likely
and who said the M$ won E3 last year. please do ur research (dont do it on 360fanboy website).
The only two big announcement were a price cut and FFXIII coming to the 360 (outside of japan)
May 26th, 2009
Here is some more food for thought. I cannot wait for this game.
In December of 2007, Rare sent out a christmas card; it had Viva Pinata characters, Banjo and Kazooie. they were sitting in front of the fire place and one of the socks, hanging over the fire place, had “KI3″ written on it. Moreover, in Banjo Kazooie: Nuts And Bolts, they teased gamers with the existence of a “new Killer Instinct”. Then, an image mysteriously appeared on the web; it was from a scene in Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and bolts where a merchant tries to sell Banjo a copy of “Killer Instinct 3″ for the Xbox 360. Surprisingly, they actually show you the box art for the game.
To add to the excitement, a recent article by V4vg suggests that one of the exclusive titles to be announced in Q1 2009 might be an online fighter based on a very popular franchise.
May 26th, 2009
But Lock_down
MGS4 has not sold that well on PS3. It only makes sence to bring it to the 360.
May 26th, 2009
Xbox 360 can’t handle MGS5 is %100 impossible fact proven.
Hey Ivan this is for you
According to Gameguru, in March of 2009, when asked about Killzone 2, a Microsoft spokesperson replied: “We congratulate Sony and Guerilla Games for their efforts with Killzone 2, however this is only the beginning of a new wave. The current technology employed for certain unannounced Xbox 360 exclusives far surpasses what gamers have seen in any game so far. Gears of War was the beginning of this technological benchmark when released on the 360 and this lineage will be carried forward in the following months with exclusives that shall stand for a new definition of gaming experience and provide stiff competition for the opposition”.
Make no mistake, 2009 will be the year in which Microsoft unleashes, upon the gaming world, the true power of the Xbox 360, once and for all.
May 26th, 2009
“MGS4 has not sold that well on PS3″
Oh please.
May 26th, 2009
“Make no mistake, 2009 will be the year in which Microsoft unleashes, upon the gaming world, the true power of the Xbox 360, once and for all.’
I can’t wait to see the true power of the 360.
May 26th, 2009
“WiFi is nice for some, but real online gamers plug in”
By whose standards? I play Street Fighter 4 (and HD Remix), Hot Shots Golf, LittleBigPlanet, Burnout, etc. all online and have never had to plug in once. Not to mention that it’s convenient for a lot more than just online GAMING. I use the PS3’s browser to watch free anime on the internet, and I am always downloading demos and videos and even whole movies (rarely).
Why the negative attitude towards wi-fi all of a sudden?
-Arvis
May 26th, 2009
The 360 is going down soon. everyday there are more ppl moding their 360 and playing games for free. once developers notice that. they are going focus on making games for the PS3 and take advantage of the Cell and SPU.
@CAD
-”MGS4 has not sold that well on PS3. It only makes sence to bring it to the 360.”
hey CAD how much you get paid to make shit up?
MGS4 has sold well more than 5 millions copies.
That’s more than enough for a game that does not appeal to all the audience. so FYI it has sold more copies than Fallout 3 and Fable (2 games that dont appeal to everybody)
@ CAD
“The current technology employed for certain unannounced Xbox 360 exclusives far surpasses what gamers have seen in any game so far”
and you actually believe him???
RAGE <– a multiplatform game is struggling to run on the 360 because there is not enough power on that machine. Every developers in the wolrd has said the PS3 is capable of doing way more, the PS3 has more power etc.
Killzone 2 i believe is only 40% of what the ps3 is capable of doing. so Shut up and make some sense.
May 26th, 2009
Jaffes game wont make the show. That really sucks. I was looking forward to seeing the next Twisted Metal.
This year should be a great E3 for Sony. Im looking forward to seeing what MS has up it’s sleeves.
I think Sony had the better overall “show” last year, while MS had the better “great announcement”. This year will probably be somewhat similar.
May 26th, 2009
“MGS4 has not sold that well on PS3. It only makes sence to bring it to the 360.”
That first sentence should be enough to make all future posts null and void.
That would be like me saying the 360 almost never has hardware issues.
You can no longer be taken seriously.
May 26th, 2009
- phranctoast
“Jaffes game wont make the show. That really sucks. I was looking forward to seeing the next Twisted Metal.”
Twisted Metal is a IP owned by Sony not Dave Jaffe, He might help sony make the next Twisted Metal but he doesnt have control over the frinchise anymore since he created his own company. so when he said his game wont be shown at E3 he is not talking about Twisted Metal. so hopelly we might see Twisted Metal there. who knows.
May 26th, 2009
^^
“MGS4 has not sold that well on PS3. It only makes sence to bring it to the 360.”
That first sentence should be enough to make all future posts null and void.
lol
May 26th, 2009
WiFi is nice and obviously “good enough” for most people, and useful in reducing cords. BUT, there is an inherent Latency in WiFi, no matter what you play. Perhaps I should have said more specifically “Hardcore gamers plug in”.
I notice a difference between WiFi and cable, and chose to cord my PS3. I got my D-link 4300 last month, and gave an honest back and forth comparison between wireless and corded for a couple weeks. It in line of sight and only about 12 ft away from my PS3, it still has a noticeably quicker connection through the cord.
May 26th, 2009
I personally believe he is talking about his game and that meaning twisted metal.
Eat Sleep Play made the last Twisted Metal. A secret message revealed “Twisted Metal on PS3″
I could only assume that Sony would trust the creator to continue the franchise.
The only company that could be working on the game other than ESP could be Incognito, and they probably have their plates full with Starhawk.
May 26th, 2009
No offence was intended to honest hardcore gamers that use WiFi. Just saying what I have experienced with my brand new gaming wireless router.
It will probably get better over time(as it has already to this point) to a degree where I won’t mind, but as of now, I will stick with my cord.
May 26th, 2009
hey CAD how much you get paid to make shit up?
MGS4 has sold well more than 5 millions copies.
OK that is decent but not when MGS4 is hailed as one of the great games on Playstation. There are 20 Million PS3’s and it sold 5. That is probably the best selling game on the PS3 to date. Halo 3 sold 20 Million and Gears 2 is over 5 Million since launch and it has not been a year yet. nuff said.
May 26th, 2009
Wi-Fi is good, Hard wire is better. True online gamers use Hard Wire.
May 26th, 2009
who said the M$ won E3 last year. please do ur research (dont do it on 360fanboy website).
It’s a clear fact that Final Fantasy on the 360 stole the show. Sony showed off LBP which went wrong but no one noticied. Big deal!!
May 26th, 2009
“and you actually believe him???”
Just like you believe in Sony and how many times have you been dissapointed already? Too many to count!!
May 26th, 2009
sony has nothing left to “win e3″ with. their biggest, most hyped, titles are already here. The promise of “console sellers” are proving failures and their price is still too high.
bluray is nice, but with bluray players on the market for less than the ps3 is selling for, the ps3 just lost one of it’s selling points….again….
the only franchise they have left to hype is Gran Turismo 5. not good when you consider it won’t match the features of Forza games already on the market.
i just find it hilarious the ps3 fanboys have to squint to find justification to buy the ps3 and the best they can come up with is “wifi”…..which is silly considering you can drop a signal, become disonnected in the middle of a game, etc, etc..with wifi… no thanks. i’ll take hard wired anyday…..
May 26th, 2009
“Halo 3 sold 20 million”
May 26th, 2009
Ivan – “Sony is the big dog of all things gaming…”
says the fanboy from the last row…. lmao…
get a clue fanboy….the past is gone. sony has lost this gen.
oh…and you may want to stop with the promises of no mgs game coming to the 360…
you could end up looking sillier than you usually do…. almost impossible, i know…
May 26th, 2009
Oh, don’t bring up GT v Forza kev, it just makes you look completely ridiculous (almost impossible, I know) when you try to claim Forza is better.
May 26th, 2009
“It’s a clear fact that Final Fantasy on the 360 stole the show. Sony showed off LBP which went wrong but no one noticied. Big deal!!”
It is rather sad when you think about it. The biggest announcement for MS was that they were going to have a game that was already coming out on the ps3. Rather lame when you think about it like that. Maybe if SE decided to not release it on the ps3 and only on the 360, that would be “show stealing”
last year Sony has all the games and MS just had the announcement.
“sony has nothing left to “win e3″ with. their biggest, most hyped, titles are already here”
IDK kev. theres a bunch of titles comin out exclusively hyped about.
May 26th, 2009
lock_down:
“I don’t see any real sense in taking MGS4/5 multi-plat. Let’s face it, the people who wanted to play MGS4 have already bought a PS3…and so the PS3 market is going to be their largest market for MGS5.”
LOL
Just because people didn’t buy a PS3 to play MGS4 it does not mean the 360 owners wont buy it. No way in hell would I buy any consol to play one game.
May 26th, 2009
Go tell that to the many 360 owners who bought a 360 just to play Halo 3 then.
May 26th, 2009
lockdown – still waiting for you ps3 fanboys to justify how 300 physics parameters of GT games make for a better sim than Forza games using over 9,000….
go ahead…tell us all how Kaz knows more about cars and physics than the automotive engineers from Toyo Tires and Team Ferrari used to in Forza games.
ah fanboys…so much hype..so little knowledge….
May 26th, 2009
@ CAD
“OK that is decent but not when MGS4 is hailed as one of the great games on Playstation. There are 20 Million PS3’s and it sold 5. That is probably the best selling game on the PS3 to date. Halo 3 sold 20 Million and Gears 2 is over 5 Million since launch and it has not been a year yet. nuff said.”
here you go again with Halo and Gears, is there any other game on the 360?? Halo sold well because its the only game the 360 has since the original xbox. just one good franchise in two generation. Halo and Gears are the type of genre that appeals to EVERYBODY. MGS5 is like a Strategy RPG games – Not everybody likes it.
@ Kev
You Must be CAD’s girl because you be making shit up left and right. Who’s stupid enough to compare Forza to Gran Turismo.
Wi-fi is not a big issue when compering the 2 console. but when even the Nintendo DS has Wi-Fi now thats like being a Generation behind (also no blu-tooth)
It is stupit to expect the 360 to have Wi-fi when it barely play games.
May 26th, 2009
@ Kev
your Gran Turismo comments is making you look more retarded than what u aready are.
Gran Turismo 1 (PSone) has sold more than Forza 1 & 2 and PGR 1,2,3 & 4 combined.
But you wouldnt know cuz ur a ps3less who has no life
May 26th, 2009
Blutooth mean absolutely nothing. It’s just another way to connect a device. Unfortunately for the PS3 your capped at 7 devices.
May 26th, 2009
I rather have a console with blu tooth than a console with no blu tooth.
May 26th, 2009
Oh jeez. Please stop before this turns into a ‘Fizziks Fest’…
Darn, too late.
Threads with Kev should just use a large template with various check boxes with options such as ‘compare GT fizzicks to Forza fizziks’, ‘I like GT5′, I like Forza’, and for kev ‘Insert ‘I AM BETTER THAN THOU’ comment to close post’.
As for the whole wired vs wireless debate. I prefer wired myself but thats because I have a ghetto 802.11b router which sucks for downloading stuffs because my internet connection is 3 to 4 times as fast as the thoughtput I get from my wireless.
May 26th, 2009
Oh not this…please kev, just give it up. You know that you have absolutely no idea what those numbers mean or what they’re representing.
Incidentally, show me the quote from Kaz where he said “300″.
Roca, GT sales “don’t count”. This a valuable lesson you must learn when talking about GT v Forza.
May 26th, 2009
^^Lock_down
lol i know. Kev has no idea of what hes talking about.
he probably doesnt know that GT5 runs at 60FPS at 1080p resolution. (no 360 games has done that) and you play GT5 using 3D glasses
May 26th, 2009
“As for the whole wired vs wireless debate. I prefer wired myself but thats because I have a ghetto 802.11b router which sucks for downloading stuffs because my internet connection is 3 to 4 times as fast as the thoughtput I get from my wireless.”
They were talking bluetooth.
I like having bluetooth for the remote, keyboard and headset.
And who needs more then 7? What a stupid comment CAD.
May 26th, 2009
ncaissie
at least you know what quality is, but some ppl are still living in the stone age and dont get it.
May 26th, 2009
Oh, by the way I never detailed my experience with 1 vs 100. I have to say this is the most amazing thing to come to a console. It was launched as a Canadian Beta for about 3 weeks. There was at least 10,000 to 15,000 people playing at once. So basically you have the crowd, the Mob and the One. You start of in the crowd and answer question to qualify for the Mob which is the 100 People. Once you make it to the Mob, it’s basically the Mob vs the One. You answer questions and if anyone gets it wrong they are kicked out of the mob and the numbers dwindle until the the one gets rid of all 100 mob members. If the one looses then the microsoft points that they acquire get split up between the remaining Mob members. For every 10 Mob members that get the question wrong and are eliminated you go up in Microsoft points. I saw a dude get 8000 MS points and then loose them to 8 remaining Mob members. That is so amazing that as the Mob you can get the points. There are also life lines. You can pick the majority answer from the crowd or the Mob or the person wiht the highest points in the game. When I was playing Major Nelson was on talking with the host for most of the game. They had callers and a live Blog that you can go online and write what you want and they will repeat it on the air they even had the 1 guy who basically won the show once on the phone talking to him about his win. There were commerical breaks and the whole experience was just amazing. The real prizes is just amazing. They have a sweepstakes going for everyone who played the Beta. You can win a Elite, a HD Camcorder, a Loptop or a Arcade game. I can’t wait till this gets to everyone your going to love it. There was also a seperate game called extended play which was basically random questions that you can answer that also help qualify you to get into the mob and increase your points. In Extended Play, every 3 questions you get right gives you a pass in case you don’t know the answer to the question and you can keep your streak going. My highest streak was 8. Anyway Guys I can’t stress how amazing this game is and it really is the next chapter in console gaming.
May 26th, 2009
And who needs more then 7? What a stupid comment CAD.
Well I was just considering that if you had 3 buds over playing split screen online, then one person would not be able to use their headset. 4 Controllers and 3 Head sets. 7 Blutooth Connections means one person left out.
May 26th, 2009
Sound good. not that bad.
May 26th, 2009
Why would you need headsets if we are playing split-screen? everybody is going to be right next to each other?
and if thats an issue there is the PS Eye which can serve as a Mic for everybody (up to infinited amount of ppl)
May 26th, 2009
I’m not sure why you’d need 7 controllers at the same time, but if I’m right, then the PS3 can support 7 active controllers simultaneously, whilst the Xbox 360 can only utilise a maximum of four, yes?
May 26th, 2009
Oh and apparently there is going to be at least one new game announced for PS3 at E3.
Jake Osuwah, part of SCEA’s PR team, has just tweeted that they have a “fresh new title for PS3 @ E3″ and will be keeping us posted as soon as they can.
http://twitter.com/jakesplace0/status/1924189414
May 26th, 2009
Addam
You 100% correct
May 26th, 2009
Also, I know I can use my old PS2 controller with my PS3 – by just plugging it into my USB port, so I could pair 4 usb headsets and 3 dualshock3 controllers with my PS3 and then plug in a fourth dualshock2 controller if I so desired.
At least that’s one bit of backwards compatibility the newer models retain!
I’m honestly not sure why you’d want to use headsets if you playing online together in the same room anyway though.
May 26th, 2009
I think he means an online match where you could all play online. It could happen, but I got to imagine it’s a real rarity, that four people will play online in the same room and all need to talk to other people not in the room.
May 26th, 2009
On a complete sidenote, how would I go about changing my picture? Seems like a daft question, but I can’t see any links anywhere to edit my profile.
May 26th, 2009
Kev got scare
May 26th, 2009
I wonder if people will really notice the difference between 300 and 9,000 PHYZIKS in these cars.
More parameters doesn’t make something more life like. 10 well animated physics will kick the shit out of 20,000 bad ones. Ask an animator…
I doubt there will be any difference worth noting.
May 26th, 2009
Addam , go to gravatar.com
When you do it, it’ll take a few minutes to update.
May 26th, 2009
Awesome. Cheers Royzy.
May 26th, 2009
‘They were talking bluetooth.’
Arvis was talking about wireless vs wired for internet.
May 26th, 2009
Why would you need headsets if we are playing split-screen? everybody is going to be right next to each other.
That’s why I said “Online”. The odds that your going to do that is far and few in between but it really means nothing. I was just showing you that there is a limitation. Blutooth is really no different then the 360’s wireless capabilities. Why someone choose to bring this up is beyond me but since it was brought up I just brought the argument against it.
May 26th, 2009
I think Sony need to announce that they’re going to release the PS3 in every colour of the rainbow in every market. If there’s one thing the DS has proven, it’s that what people want is their technology to come in a variety of colours.
Hell you can even get your 360 in 3 different colours now.
Sod the quality of the games and the technology, just palm off the same stuff in different colours!
May 26th, 2009
Well im off this
going to buy inFAMOUS right now.
thanks god i dont have a 360 i would be stuck with no games to play right now
May 26th, 2009
George Gardner on why the PS3 is the best console at BLORGE.net: http://blorge.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=8
May 26th, 2009
John, the points in that article were all valid, certainly, but it’s stuff that everyone already knows and has an opinion. Either you think it’s important/useful, or you don’t. So… I am unsure what the point of linking the article actually was.
Not to mention, he commits the modern gamer faux pas of comparing the two HD consoles to an SD console…
-Arvis
May 26th, 2009
Roca.:
May 26th, 2009
“The 360 is going down soon. everyday there are more ppl moding their 360 and playing games for free. once developers notice that. they are going focus on making games for the PS3 and take advantage of the Cell and SPU.”
Roca, you can’t be serious?
Besides being a ludicrous fanboy desire this is about as wide of the mark as possible.
Look into the amount of money XBL is making everyone.
Xbox is a cash cow for all concerned.
That’s what everyone is really noticing.
Feel free to make silly statements about the PS3 being some sort of a free gift for the world if you like but the facts are that Xbox is making large $ for all those aboard.
May 26th, 2009
Wow you guys are brutal…
I would say that any game that sells over 1 million (Industry standard: platinum status) is good in any book out there.
Halo 3 sold 20 million? wowzers… thats absolutely fantastic, that would mean it outsold Gran Turismo 3’s 15 million.
Gamer Blorge just opened up our own Forum so feel free to check it out.
http://blorge.net/
May 26th, 2009
No Mike! GT sales don’t count! Come on, get on the ball…
Forum looks interesting…keeps asking me for a password though….
May 26th, 2009
‘Anyway Guys I can’t stress how amazing this game is and it really is the next chapter in console gaming.’
So from what I can gather (using wiki) its seems more like a ‘TV show’ (I have no idea if its avail on xbl or anything) than anything else CAD.
Sounds like something they could dump that drug lord from ‘the weakest link’ on to as host.
I don’t personally think that will be the next big thing in console gaming (maybe for 6pm on BBC 2 tho). You could be right tho, guess we’ll have to wait and see.
May 26th, 2009
CAD, when you say, “Halo 3 sold 20 Million”, I’m aware that the accuracy of VGChartz is debated, but according to that (I had difficulty locating any other up-to-date sales figures) worldwide sales were only 9.61m as of March.
I’d be impressed if they’d have sold over 10 million since then, but I think you may have got your figures slightly wrong. Unless VGChartz is wrong by over 50%.
May 26th, 2009
Roca,
“Halo and Gears are the type of genre that appeals to EVERYBODY. MGS5 is like a Strategy RPG games – Not everybody likes it.”
Sorry, no it doesn’t. I personally prefer RPG’s which the 360 has more of and haven’t even played Gears of War 2.
I would say we don’t know enough about 5 to make an accurate judgment (as it hasn’t released yet), but as far as comparing sales between Gears 2 and MGS4, it’s a fair comparison, one that should favor MGS4 sales but does not.
One is a third person shooter (Gear of War 2) where the other is a third person action title, and MGS4 has been out almost a half year longer. One is only the second iteration in a 2.5 year old franchise (having existed only on 360), while the other is the seventh iteration (story wise) in a franchise that is over 20 years old (having existed on 7 platforms). If either title should have sold more by now, it should be MGS4.
As it is, two multiplat games are outselling it, supposedly the showcase title for PS3, significantly on the same supposed “hardcore” platform. This is most likely due to longer lasting multiplayer capabilities than genre alone (racing is a major part of the GTAIV multiplayer).
Take the same topselling three exclusive games from each system and you are left with Halo3, Gears 1&2 for 360 at about 21 million in sales; while MGS4, Resistance, and Motorstorm for PS3 are at about 11 million in sales, or about half of what 360 does (we already know Wii games outsell both tremendously but let’s leave this to the big boy games and game consoles).
Exclusive for exclusive, 360 has almost always outsold the PS3 titles in the same respective sales position, and multiplats outsell all titles on both platforms.
May 26th, 2009
Awww c’mon, stop with the ‘wii is a baby and should not be counted’. It is and it isn’t, just like the PS3/360 has ‘gold’ and trash.
Fuck chainsaw guns, blood & repetative shooting, gimme some hardcore platforming action on Mario Galaxy. The king of game that makes you want to jam your WiiMote in Iwata’s asshole when you can’t get past a level. That is hardcore
Mines the one with ‘big N’ on it…
May 26th, 2009
The Weakest Link is now on BBC1, SW…oh yeah, premium programming it is…
May 26th, 2009
SW, let’s just say it generally appeals to a different audience and didn’t apply to the discussion at hand.
I totally agree with you on the chainsaws, guns, and repetitive shooting though, which is why I am enjoying RPG’s on 360 more than shooters. I did love RE5 and enjoy GTAIV though.
As for Wii, I think Muramasa looks pretty cool.
May 26th, 2009
roca is just a troll. The best way to kill a troll is to not feed it.
May 26th, 2009
OK let me make my correction. I stated Halo 3 sold over 20 Million. That is not true. The whole halo Triliogy sold over 20 Million. Halo 3 sold 8.1 Millon by the end of 2008. Where it is now I don’t know.
May 26th, 2009
@ Mike,
What’s the password to view your posts in the forum?
May 26th, 2009
Addam you are right about the 9.6 million. That is still impressive. I think the 10 Million mark will be broken this year.
May 26th, 2009
I agree. Whilst it has been out about a year longer, that’s still over twice the figures of PS3’s best-selling exclusive (MGS4). Obviously the time-difference and slightly larger user-base will contribute to this, but nonetheless, that’s a lot of games to shift.
Unfortunately it’s got nothing on Wii Sports/Play/Fit/Mario Kart. It really does pain me to see their sales figures.
May 26th, 2009
Sony needs a touch screen psp2 for Christmas
May 26th, 2009
So from what I can gather (using wiki) its seems more like a ‘TV show’ (I have no idea if its avail on xbl or anything) than anything else CAD.
SW
Yeah it is a TV Show but they took that idea to the 360. 1 vs 100 is only the start of game shows on the 360. I think you will see Who Wants to be a Millionare and other shows in the near future. Trust me it’s fun especially for the actual show as opposed to the extented play part. It always came on at 10 pm EST a couple of times a week and lasted for 2 hours and extended play was on a lot more but it came in 1/2 hour segments one after the other and like I said before it helped qualify to get you in the Mob of the real game.
May 26th, 2009
CAD, what is to keep the “1″ from cheating by looking online for the answer to the question when he/she is at home?
May 26th, 2009
“Unfortunately it’s got nothing on Wii Sports/Play/Fit/Mario Kart. It really does pain me to see their sales figures.”
103 million for those four.
Sony and Microsoft are so going to copy Nintendo next time round.
May 26th, 2009
I wonder how many hours on average the first three get played?
Contrast that with the much lower selling top sellers of the HD consoles, and it’s a joke that such quality is overlooked by so many console owners.
May 26th, 2009
Every Wii owner I know has a Wii fit, and every Wii Fit I see is collecting dust.
May 27th, 2009
Well they’re all casual games so you wouldn’t expect them to be played as much. I doubt people at Bungie stay up at night worrying about some obscure JRPG that get’s 10x the play time of Halo.
May 27th, 2009
@ Lock down
>Forum looks interesting…keeps asking me for a password though….
I **think** I’ve fixed that, but let me know if that’s not the case…
May 27th, 2009
“Every Wii owner I know has a Wii fit, and every Wii Fit I see is collecting dust.”
Including my wife’s…….
May 27th, 2009
^
Yep, mine too! It’s was fun until I started to sweat! It’s great fun watching my girlfriend do the hula hoops though!
May 27th, 2009
CarlB
“SW, let’s just say it generally appeals to a different audience and didn’t apply to the discussion at hand.”
Yeah it does matter Metal Gear has never been on sales figures. as good as the game is it does not appeals to everybody. because its not ur tipical run-n-gun type of game. there is too many cut scenes, to much sneaking around and sucky control (until MGS4)
May 27th, 2009
CarlB-
“Take the same topselling three exclusive games from each system and you are left with Halo3, Gears 1&2 for 360 at about 21 million in sales; while MGS4, Resistance, and Motorstorm for PS3 are at about 11 million in sales”
Halo 3, Gears of War 1 and 2 is all 360 owner buy because theres nothing else to play.
while we buy games like Kilzone2, LBP, Resistance, Buzz, GT5Prologe, MGS5, Uncharted, Warhawk, Motorstorm 1&2 etc. and then we algo buy PSP games like Crisis Core, Resistance, God of War, Syphon Filter etc.
May 27th, 2009
^
Ok Roca, everyone gets it! PS3 is the best thing ever! It will cure all world disease and hunger, do your homework for you, take care of your pets, and wipe your ass! There is nothing it can not do, it is almighty and nothing can stand in it’s way!!!!!
Dude honestly, you and Ivan are the biggest troll fanboy fucktards EVER! This is the first and last snack you are getting from me troll boy! Take Sony’s balls out of your mouth for 5 seconds and open your mind a bit!
May 27th, 2009
Cant handle the truth Knighthawk.
Remember sales figure doesnt mean anything.
the 360 might the sales figure but the ps3 has the games (exclusives)
May 27th, 2009
Damn this thread exploded since I left. MGS4 did sell well, but Kojima’s speech at M$’s show is all but a given at this point, so he has to be attached to something for the 360. It’s very possible he is attached to two games at once (MGS & ZoE3).
Konomi’s financial growth is all attached to the success of MGS4, all of there other IPs are either failed or dyeing (Rock Rev, Silent Hill, Castlevania, Contra). It makes sense that they would want to milk the MGS franchise as much as humanly possible.
Adam – Thanks for the twitter update.
Arvis – What site do you stream anime from?
May 27th, 2009
“PS3 is the best thing ever! It will cure all world disease and hunger”
As sarcastic as you’re being, Folding@Home may actually help cure some diseases
May 27th, 2009
I spent yesterday lost in infamous, but I just saw this… Snake’s story may be over, but we still have Big Boss.
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/05/26/kojima-teaser-site-updates-with-big-boss/
May 27th, 2009
WTF is going on here?
I go to sleep for 24 hours… and all hell breaks lose…
Blorge has a forum? George is a PS3 fanboy?
WHo the fuck is addam? new meat?
WHAT IS GOING ON IN HERE?
May 27th, 2009
I think if the PS3 was cheaper from the start then the sales would be a lot different.
The Xbox is powerful but limited with old DVD tech and unreliable. If it wasn’t failing left right and center I would have one by now. I would mod it but I would have one.
And don’t say it’s fixed now because that BS. As it is now the 360 isn’t worth buying and modding.
I would rather pay the money for a PS3 then get a 360 cheaply with free games.
Which sucks because I liked Halo on the Xbox.
Maybe if I find one for $50 I will buy it.
May 27th, 2009
^^ agree
May 27th, 2009
“CAD, what is to keep the ‘1′ from cheating by looking online for the answer to the question when he/she is at home?”
This is a great question, that I would love an answer to.
@Barnabe: I’ve gotten back into Naruto since playing UNS, and there’s a site dedicated to the English dub. Just google “naruto episodes” and you’ll find it. I doubt you want to watch just Naruto, though…
-Arvis
May 27th, 2009
“Halo 3, Gears of War 1 and 2 is all 360 owner buy because theres nothing else to play… while we buy games like Kilzone2, LBP, Resistance, Buzz, GT5Prologe, MGS5, Uncharted, Warhawk, Motorstorm 1&2 etc.”
Roca, Killzone 2 was supposed to be PS3’s Halo Killer. It has some polished gameplay and tweaked graphics, rightfully so, considering how late in the game it is. As it is Halo 3, Gears of War 1&2 are all reviewed higher.
LBP I’ll give to you. The 360 has no real answer for this platformer, so if that’s your thing, more power to you and the PS3. I’d still rather be playing Fable 2.
Resistance. In addition to the games mentioned above, Call of Duty 2, GRAW1, Left 4 Dead are all rated higher.
Buzz is Scene It.
GT5 Prologue is Forza 2, rated much higher.
Why do you keep on saying MGS5? It is 4. Anyway, pick one from the list above. I’d choose Left 4 Dead.
Uncharted. I’d go for some Dead Rising.
Warhawk. I’d rather play Mass Effect. Again, the 360 does not really have a flight combat answer, so if that’s your thing go for it.
Motorstorm. Well, lets see all rated higher are Burnout Revenge, PGR 3&4, and NFS Most Wanted.
So, the PS3 rules the roost in platformers and flight combat, while the rest of the basic genres mentioned (and more) 360 either has an answer or does better than PS3. (CarlB returns to Lost Odyssey)
May 27th, 2009
*Facepalm*
are you serious carl? you are actually being serious right now?
first of all… who termed the word “Halo Killer”?
who actually said that Killzone 1 or 2 would be halo killer? was it the fanboys? the PR people? guerilla themselves? so the term xbot is legitimate now? how bout crap box?
are you seriously comparing all these exclusive games? why? its so childish and almost insecure to compare the exclusive lineups… I expected more from you… your list proves nothing more than the fact that you like xbox games… it doesnt prove that the ps3 has worse games or anything…
jesus… you actually go back to graw and cod 2… christ…
May 27th, 2009
In terms of gameplay (which is the most important thing), KZ2 took Halo 2.5 out back in the alley, executed it, and then proceeded to teabag the twitching corpse.. there’s honestly no question about that.
Now we have Halo 2.75 on the horizon, which almost certainly will still not come close to KZ2, but I guess it’s worth a try.
Buzz came along way before the clone Scene it.
Mass Effect? I hated the game when it was called Knights of the Old Republic 2. Honestly I wouldn’t buy it if it did come to PS3.
The games you’re comparing to MotorStorm are all multiplatform. So I’m failing to see the point.
Prologue – was basically an expanded demo. I would hope a full game would get rated higher.
I could keep going, but this is like one of CADs posts. There’s just so much wrong here…
May 27th, 2009
“Uncharted. I’d go for some Dead Rising.”
Carl, you haven’t played Uncharted, have you?
-Arvis
May 27th, 2009
darkwhitehair: “WHo the fuck is addam? new meat?”
I’ve been reading Gamer.Blorge for a while now, and recently decided that I’d like to chip-in my tuppence.
To get any future accusations out of the way, I’m a PS3 owner, but I also appreciate the merits of the 360 and intend to buy one in the near future. I like to keep an open mind when it comes to games consoles, though personally I’m not a fan of the Wii. Like most people here, it would appear.
May 27th, 2009
Sorry Addam, there will be no merit appreciating or open minds here.
Pick a side.
May 27th, 2009
“Cant handle the truth Knighthawk.
Remember sales figure doesnt mean anything.
the 360 might the sales figure but the ps3 has the games (exclusives)”
@Roca
Dude, I have a PS3, an Xbox360 and a Wii. You totally misssed my point! Fuck, you are stupid, really fucking stupid! Guess what, I like the PS3 the most out of all of them! Does that mean I have to be a douchbag fanboy troll and try to convince the whole world that the PS3 is the best and everone else is an idoit who thinks otherwise? I guess in your petty mind that’s how things work!
May 27th, 2009
Arvis you are a clear bias man… you are so full of bias that when you open your mouth all that comes out of it is bias.. in japanese…
seriously carl… are you feeling ok? cus you.. you sound terrible today…
ADDAM IS A GAY! HE LIKEZ TO BUM HIS PS3! Clearly he is a gay cus only gayz like ps3…
for future reference… I am a PC gamer who thinks all consoles are shit…
YOU CAN KEEP YOUR GAYLO AND YOUR SHITZONE! BUT YOU CAN NEVER HAVE THE AWESOME SAUCE OF CRYSIS!
May 27th, 2009
also… is addam worth adding on the PSN? or is he like ivan? tell me… TELL ME NAO!
not your roy… I dont trust you… you told kevo and ivan my PSN id.. not cool… not cool at all…
May 27th, 2009
“also… is addam worth adding on the PSN? or is he like ivan? tell me… TELL ME NAO!”
What’s to say I’d give out that sort of information on here?
P.S. No offence to Ivan, but no. No, I am most certainly not. At all. Ever.
May 27th, 2009
Knighthawk,
Why are you getting so angry when you’re the one who started the name-calling? Chill out.
-Arvis
May 27th, 2009
Arvis… could you explain all this to me? I dont have time to read through all this crap…
May 27th, 2009
‘I’m not a fan of the Wii. Like most people here, it would appear.’
Booooooooooo.
May 27th, 2009
DWH,
You’re on a site on he internet called “Gamer.Blorge.” It is the worst site in the history of the internet, where people are very very mean to each other for very very stupid reasons…
-Arvis
May 27th, 2009
Uncle Rico: You know what, Arvis? You can leave.
DWH, it was an accident. Can trust not be mended? I thought we were friends.
As I scanned down the comments – did I see some comparisons being made between Uncharted and Dead Rising?
May 27th, 2009
“As I scanned down the comments – did I see some comparisons being made between Uncharted and Dead Rising?”
CarlB seems to think the 2 are comparable.
May 27th, 2009
dwh,
uh. Yes. If you read the quote used in the post you would see roca’s comment “Halo 3, Gears of War 1 and 2 is all 360 owner buy because theres nothing else to play…” to which I replied what we do play. Nothing more nothing less, so please calm down with your indignation.
Halo Killer may be a fanboy term, so ignoring it, KZ2 was supposed to be THE title that PS3 owners waited for years to play. While it may be a great title, it doesn’t really seem all that different or great as roca was trying to make it out to be.
Barnabe, Trivial Pursuit came out before Buzz, so what?
The titles I used to for 360’s racing games were only in comparison to PS3 games, which they do not have. Lower rated versions/sequels sure, but not those games. I didn’t know PGR3 and 4 were on PS3. Please link. What’s the release date on that full game you mentioned? May be a while, guess we will see then.
Sorry you didn’t like Mass Effect. I did along with a few others.
Again read the post in context with the quote used at the beginning.
Arvis,
No. But it is an action adventure game and somebody seemed to think the 360 had none of those to play, so I used the one I have played and enjoyed. Not saying it is better, though it is similarly rated in the same basic genre. I am sure Uncharted is a fun game, as is Dead Rising.
Again people, reread the post and you will see that I did not say “360 is better”, I only answered the quote and listed what an owner had to play in those basic genres on 360. I know I answered the “holy list”, but give it a break. Sheesh.
May 27th, 2009
CarlB: “Barnabe, Trivial Pursuit came out before Buzz, so what?”
I think the point being made is that the ‘Scene It?’ game on the Xbox 360 clearly takes more than a little ‘inspiration’ from Buzz on the PS2/3. I mean, have you seen the controllers? They didn;t even TRY to be original.
In all fairness, Trivial Pursuit is nothing like Buzz.
“While Microsoft is quite capable of being innovative and exciting, there are those who would argue that it has built a lot of its success on taking what somebody else is doing, creating its own version and then bludgeoning them to death with marketing and longevity. Well, if that’s the plan with “Scene It? Lights, Camera, Action”, then it’s got its work cut out, because families bought a lot of PS2s, and a lot of copies of Buzz, which is almost completely the same thing”
[www.eurogamer.net/articles/scene-it-lights-camera-action-first-impressions]
May 27th, 2009
NEVER! I am no friend to gay xbots… cus we all ps3 owners are all straight and tight yo…
carl… I understand you were verbally sparring with some of the more uncouth members in this site… doesnt mean you have to sink down to their level… doesnt matter how sophisticated or right you are… when you compare games that are not similar and make lists…. you look really really not cool…
Killzone 2 was never THE title for the PS3… again I ask… who said it was THE title? it starts with the forums and the commmenters… with people getting hyped and excited and they blow games out of proportion…
if you want to be inspired by a franchise… Ill say this… Halo still has to be a Mario Killer… otherwise its a failure… see what I did thar? pretty clever eh?
video games are subjective… I know you like RPGs… so Halo ODST isnt probably as exciting to you as much as Final Fantasy 13… doesnt mean I can objectively compare the two and claim one to be better than the other…
also I hear a lot of grief from podcasts about the MS points being a problem… cus the market is based on an imaginary currency rather than a real currency…
I was watching the Quick Look of 1v100… now thats a place where the MS points makes sense… damn… I am very excited for that game… its like Buzz taken to the next level…
also when people say things like “Before you judge me know that I have all the consoles and I am objective”… thats just stupid…
May 27th, 2009
In all fairness, Scene It or Buzz are not really a big draw to either console, and a trivia game on a console is not all that original of an idea. Both can be fun, but seriously, the controllers? Who really cares at this point in time?
Nobody (unless you are a fanboy with a list) really cares (as evidenced by the sales for either title on present gen consoles) as long as they get to play a similar equivalent on the console they own, which was exactly the point I was trying to make.
This game was played out on PS2 and PSP (14 games? really?) and polished a little for PS3. The 360 has basically “the same thing”. Big deal.
May 27th, 2009
“Ill say this… Halo still has to be a Mario Killer… otherwise its a failure… see what I did thar? pretty clever eh?”
Not really. I least I stayed in the same basic genre. And I thought I already said take out the Halo Killer and admitted it was a fanboy term for the sake of argument?
Did you miss the part where I said I was just listing games in the same genre on 360 to show that, yes, the 360 does have games to play in the same basic genres, many of which are even rated better? Did you miss the part where I said PS3 has better platformers and flight combat games than the 360, which really has no equivalent? Did you read any of what I said? Seriously dwh, reread it and you can see that what I said was pretty reasonable.
May 27th, 2009
“Killzone 2 was never THE title for the PS3… again I ask… who said it was THE title? it starts with the forums and the commmenters… with people getting hyped and excited and they blow games out of proportion…”
I agree completely. THE title that was KZ2 started it’s hype at E3 2005, may have had the biggest budget of any PS3 title released yet, and this hype is just now starting to subside. Trust me dwh, I dislike hype as much as you do, and there was plenty for this title.
May 27th, 2009
did you read the part where I said that no matter what you have to say… when you compare games like that and make lists… it looks very silly…
also K2 may have a big budget… but MGS 4 has a much bigger one…
I know you have intelligent things to say… but it comes out as feeding the trolls… you deal with people like kevo by simply telling them to fuck off… its that simple…
May 27th, 2009
“Feel free to make silly statements about the PS3 being some sort of a free gift for the world if you like but the facts are that Xbox is making large $ for all those aboard.”
Riiiiiiiiiight, so that’s why EA, Take Two (even with MS’s touted GTA DLC exclusivity) and THQ are all losing money then I take it….plus Square Enix revenue and profits down 31% (incidentally where they have 3 big 360 games).
Don’t make ridiculous statements Happy.
May 27th, 2009
i’m telling you, ignore roca and he’ll go away (or use his Ivan_PSP username again).
May 27th, 2009
“did you read the part where I said that no matter what you have to say… when you compare games like that and make lists… it looks very silly… feeding the trolls…”
I considered this about roca’s comment, but then realized, well, there is a strong possibility he doesn’t own a 360; and I hadn’t seen a detailed, reasonable answer to the “holy list” PS3 gamers like to swing around, so I thought I might give it a shot.
How big was MGS4’s budget by the way? I read KZ2’s was somewhere between 30-60 million.
Again, I wasn’t “comparing” each game, just putting out what was available on 360 to play in those same genres, if there were any titles in that genre. While some games are pretty well known and have been used before, others haven’t been as much.
While roca may have made a troll statement, I don’t think he has fallen as much into full blown trolldom as Ivan, so I’m willing to prevent the transformation through information for a limited time if possible.
And, this is just me, but I believe trolls feed more off of angry statements like the one you suggested vice reason. There is always exceptions though, so I usually know when to stop altogether.
Again, I still haven’t had enough time with roca, so I’m still waiting to pass judgment on whether he is a fanboy troll or simply uninformed.
May 27th, 2009
“Riiiiiiiiiight, so that’s why EA, Take Two (even with MS’s touted GTA DLC exclusivity) and THQ are all losing money then I take it….plus Square Enix revenue and profits down 31% (incidentally where they have 3 big 360 games).”
I don’t know lockdown, are they really losing money because they are selling more of their multiplatform titles on 360 than PS3?
I thought it was something to do with a recession and people buying less in general, or maybe because they spent boatloads of money on 8+ hour games that could be rented instead of owned.
Doesn’t Square Enix still have more Sony exclusives than Microsoft ones?
Food for thought.
May 28th, 2009
yo dwh i think i get dumber every time i read your post you two faced fairy…your such a fucking hippocrate.
May 28th, 2009
roca doesnt own a 360… so talking to him about 360 games isnt gonna change his mind… trolls feed off of everything… might as well treat them like the cheap whores they are and have some fun…
May 28th, 2009
There’s no “food for thought” at all here, Carl.
“I thought it was something to do with a recession and people buying less in general”
Go tell that to Nintendo.
“Doesn’t Square Enix still have more Sony exclusives than Microsoft ones?”
What’s that got to do with this generation? Nothing. The PS3 has no games from SE; the 360 has three…all of which were released during this fiscal year.
May 28th, 2009
I think Nintendo has already seen it in less sales than last year, but they are nowhere near sweating it as much as Sony (or Microsoft for that matter) right now.
“the 360 has three…all of which were released during this fiscal year.”
None of which were Final Fantasy XIII and all of which received mixed to below average reviews because of the game, not the console. Go figure.
May 28th, 2009
@ CharlieB,
Yeah from all accounts, Infinite Undiscovery wasn’t very good. Am enjoying the Last remnant, even though I am forgetting to save and end up dying 1.5 hours past my last save point and have to do it all over again. Star Ocean seems to be the pick of the bunch.
Any news on Mistwalker? They’ve gone quiet since Lost Odyssey (favourite Japanese made RPG so far).
May 28th, 2009
Blue Dragon 2 later this year. Other than that, I haven’t seen anything. Magna Carta 2 (using the same engine as Lost Odyssey – Unreal 3) is coming out though, hopefully it fares better than the first.
May 28th, 2009
ok Ive been wondering… and hopefully you guys can gimme the answer… what is FF 13 versus? I read its exclusive to PS3… but even wikipedia wasnt clear on what the fuck its supposed to be
May 28th, 2009
Was the first Blue Dragon worth a play? I know it wasn’t received awfully well by the press, but I am sure I could find it for $30 somewhere.
dwh, no idea, it could be anything. My first thought was that the VS meant that it could be a Street Fighter type of game using FF13 characters, but that’s probably way off the mark.
May 28th, 2009
Haven’t played it yet. New Egg played it cheap and said my card wouldn’t clear, yet the same one cleared for the other deals. Now they’ve sold out and don’t even have it on the site anymore. Not that I can complain, seeing as how I’m picking up another four games for $9 apiece.
dwh, the only thing definitive I’ve seen is that it is an action rpg.
May 28th, 2009
Might FFXIIIvs be in a similar vein to FFX-2?
May 28th, 2009
“Knighthawk,
Why are you getting so angry when you’re the one who started the name-calling? Chill out.”
@Arvis
Honestly, sorry if my rant to Roca/Ivan_PSP offended you. However I would hardly say I was angry. Just trying to get a point across to Roca/Ivan_PSP. Really, just beacause someone drops a few F-bombs here and there hardly makes them full of rage! Annoyed might be a better choice of words, lol
May 28th, 2009
“roca doesnt own a 360… so talking to him about 360 games isnt gonna change his mind…”
I had one until it died a month ago. I liked the 360 but if was not playing Gears of War or Left 4 Dead it was collecting dust. with the PS3, they release good games on regular basis
May 28th, 2009
Well, roca, to tell the truth, I haven’t played any newly released Microsoft full retail exclusives lately because there hasn’t been any worth mentioning (but neither do I make the distinction between multiplats and exclusives when it comes to playing a game, it’s still a game).
I can see if somebody has played through all the 200+ favorably reviewed games available on the platform (or 100+ on PS3) and has gotten bored, and has more playtime on their hands than the extensive release calendar of games for this year, but I’m not there yet.
How long did you have your 360 for?
May 28th, 2009
I had it since it came out.
May 28th, 2009
“My first thought was that the VS meant that it could be a Street Fighter type of game using FF13 characters, but that’s probably way off the mark.”
Ha ha! Harry, that is way off the mark, yes, but it is also a really awesome idea. I would be all over a game like that.
The comparison I keep hearing is that the FFvsXIII battle system is more like Kingdom Hearts than anything else.
-Arvis
May 28th, 2009
royzy – the physics calculations in forza are from actual data incorporated from automotive engineers. kaz does not use automotive engineers in his game. he would also be the first one to tell you he knows less about cars than automotive engineers. it’s just a shame you ps3 fanboys choose to ignore reality in leiu of rabid idiocy…. but hey…at least you guys are consistent…
so far NONE of the ps3 fanboys can argue against the data supporting Forza as the top console sim. all you have is, “GT is TEH BESTest!!!, cuz i said so!!”….. typical 3rd grade (ps3 fanboy) logic….
lockdown – i already told you what physics parameters are, how they are used, and why more is better and more lifelike. you simply choose to ignore it.
physics include, drag, lift, weight, momentum, wear, coefficient of friction (or “drag factor”), force, etc, etc, etc…. the higher the number, the more accurate of a sim you will have. this is also why actual driving and flight simulators used by military and organizations typically involve a room full of computers to calculate the enormous parameters behing calculated every second.
go ahead and continue your blind fanboy belief taht GT is a better sim. the reviews (ALL reviews) have Forza as the new king of physics for sims.
ROCA – congrats on becoming the ps3 posterboy. Bourne, darkwhitehair, SW and lockdown are all very, very proud of you….
May 28th, 2009
ROCA – “he probably doesnt know that GT5 runs at 60FPS at 1080p resolution. (no 360 games has done that) and you play GT5 using 3D glasses”
you heard it here first, gamers. GT 5 will be in 3d. I’m sure bourne, darkwhitehair, royzy and the other 6th graders will be so proud when it hits the market.
thanks for letting us know…. lmao…
May 28th, 2009
I think it sounds intriguing…
http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/sony-shows-off-3d-ps3-wipeout-and-gt5-499563
May 28th, 2009
Kev-
you must be out of your mind. how are you to compare a mediocre/avarage racing game to Greatest Racing Franchise of all time.
360 poster….uhmm keep trying.
if you want to see/learn about automotive engineers buy GT5 and watch GT TV. It is obious that u dont know what ur talking bout.
May 28th, 2009
You haven’t told me anything kev…except repeatedly spout a load of numbers which you don’t understand, and list some physics parameters which every modern racing game is incorporating.
I’m still waiting for you to link me the 300 quote from Kaz.
May 28th, 2009
lockdown – now shut up.
http://www.futuregamez.net/ps2games/gt4/gt4.html
the reality is; if you’re going to hype something, at least know SOMETHING about it….lmao..
..idiot….
May 28th, 2009
“Greatest Racing Franchise of all time”… yawn.
May 28th, 2009
Thats because you probably havent play it yet.
May 28th, 2009
‘ROCA – congrats on becoming the ps3 posterboy. Bourne, darkwhitehair, SW and lockdown are all very, very proud of you….’
Hahahahahahaahahaha.
Those who do agree with Go… I mean Kev be cast into pit of PS3 postboy-dom!
Kev, I thank you for the chuckle I needed. It has been (and still is for another day) a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooong week.
May 28th, 2009
*posterboy-dom
May 28th, 2009
yes roca. I’ve played gran turismo games. yawn. I get as excited for new iterations of these titles as I do new sports titles, but I can see how you would get worked up over it. To each his own.
May 29th, 2009
“..idiot….”
Usual Kev hate mail. When you can’t get your warped opinion across, resort to calling names.
May 29th, 2009
That’s it…GT4…?! haha….hahahahaha…
Oh man, I thought we were talking about GT5.
haha….hahahaha….
Cheers kev, another winner!
May 29th, 2009
good job on compering Forza to GT4, i think thats fair.
May 29th, 2009
“What Sony needs to do to win E3″
It’s a shameful rip, but I saw this on NeoGaf posted by someone called FirewalkR, and it’s too good not share…
“The keynote starts. Everything is dark. One spotlight. Empty. Then Tretton steps in it. Silence for a moment. Then he says “Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you this.” Lights out. Screen starts showing PS3 games, just games. First the ones everyone’s expecting, Uncharted 2, R&C, GOW3, Heavy Rain, MAG, WKC. The crowd is going “yeah, allright!”.
Then the ones we might sort of be expecting like GT5 with damage in all car makes, Yakuza 3 US/EU, EyePet. Crowd’s “yeah cool, allright!”. Then the fun starts with MGS5 exclusive, runs at 60fps, crowd goes “WOW!”, Eight Days and The Getaway are back from the dead and nearing gold status, people gasp with the surprise, Secret PS3 Games (yeah that’s right, 3 of them, not one!), crowd can’t believe their eyes at the magnificence, there are some seizures, paramedics intervene, too late for some, then Project Trico’s latest build, a magnificent 10 minute trailer, people scream and cry, it’s so beautiful, ratbird is Sony’s new mascot, you can choose to play with your Sackboy instead of the kid and use the PSP as a second viewpoint, a sex orgy erupts in the room.
Then all of a sudden the spotlight reappears over Tretton, and a second spotlight shows Phil Harrison. Tretton says “Hi Phil! And welcome back to Sony!” “It’s good to be back.”, says Phil, who’s handholding someone else. “And I brought my friend here with me!”. A third spotlight shows Wada, who proceeds to announce FF7:Remake, free as a bonus with the worldwide exclusive launch of FFXIII on Christmas 2009.
“Japan never really forgave us for last year”, he says. “Don’t worry, we’re sure all is forgiven now”, say Phil and Tretton in unison. The crowd totally looses control, sweat and jizz fly through the theatre, Tretton says “Well, thank you all for coming and see you next year!” All 3 go to the backstage, holding hands, lights go out.
Win.”
I just thought that was brilliant.
May 29th, 2009
LMAOOO……..thats hillarious
May 29th, 2009
lockdown – why in the world would we be using GT5? it’s not even to market yet. It’s pointless to hype GT features before launch as Kaz has a history of hyping features that are not included in the launch version, ie; online racing w/ GT4.
so far, 300 physics parameters are what the GT engine is using. Kaz has made no mention of an increase in GT5. He has made mention of “new engine”, but void (suspiciously) of any real facts.
300 is what the GT engine runs on unto proven otherwise. Forza/Forza 2 runs on over 9,000 physics parameters. Will GT5 trump this? no word yet from Kaz, sony or PD.
personally, i don’t see it happening. He doesn’t have the education of the automotive engineers from Toyo Tires and Team Ferrari who helped design Forza’s physics engines.
but continue the hype if you want. it needs all it can get…..
May 29th, 2009
Kev:
“300 is what the GT engine runs on unto proven otherwise. Forza/Forza 2 runs on over 9,000 physics parameters. ”
who cares Gran Turismo Still looks better!
May 29th, 2009
Oh, where to start..?
It’s pretty ridiculous to compare a five year old PS2 game to a two year old 360 game, don’t you think kev? Although I guess when you’re desperate you have to resort to such measures.
So….let’s use GT5P then. Although again, this doesn’t really help your case since you don’t know what the numbers are. Understandable then that you’d want to bypass that.
And you’re now claiming that both Forza 1 and 2 had 9,000 physics parameters? Although if you read that interview, he just says “parameters”, not “physics parameters”…huge difference there kev.
“lockdown – now shut up.”
To be honest, you haven’t really proved anything, have you? There’s information from Kaz was there. “futuregamez.net” yeah, sounds well respectable that site.
And they can’t even get their facts right, as they say each car will be (oh, yeah, “will be”…they didn’t even have the final code) “made up of between 2,000 and 3,000 polygons”, when in actual fact they were made from 4000.
“Yamauchi pointed out the cars in Gran Turismo 4 were made up of 4,000 polygons.”
uk.ps3.gamespy.com/playstation-3/gran-turismo-5-prologue/815915p1.html
I don’t think GT5 needs any hype help, but thanks for your concern.
E3, baby…GT5 is coming
May 29th, 2009
wow… sick burn on Kaz…
as we all know… Kaz personally makes every single Gran Turismo games… therefore he is personally responsible.. and his education and sexual preference is responsible for the degrading quality of all GT games…
kev has shown me the light… thank you kev…
May 29th, 2009
Kev-
“personally, i don’t see it happening. He doesn’t have the education of the automotive engineers from Toyo Tires and Team Ferrari who helped design Forza’s physics engines.”
what he does have is the help from everyone else in the world. just to name a few:
Nismo, momo, TDR, Castro, yamaha, Audo, Auston Martin etc
May 29th, 2009
If there were a comparison to be made to GT5 it would probably be Forza 3. Since neither has come out maybe the debate should wait.
May 31st, 2009
Kev,
Watch the link below. GT Prologue (demo) looks light years better than the muddy looking Forza. And all of Forza’s “physiks” certainly do not look any better.
.gametrailers.com/user-movie/gran-turismo-5-vs-forza-motorsport/123774
June 1st, 2009
Forza’s strength was never supposed to be it’s graphics, and I don’t think they meant 2 to compete with GT5 in that aspect.
June 1st, 2009
lockdown – nice try in avoiding the subject, but the fact remains: The Forza engine uses over 9,000 physics parameters while the GT engine only uses 300, per Kaz himself.
you say the 4 year old GT4 shouldn’t be used? why not? it’s the last word of parameters from Kaz. and yes, Forza (1), also a 4 year old game used over 9000 and only launched a few months before GT4. it seems if kaz was better he could get more performance considering it hit the market later, and is supposedly the crown jewel of console sims.
give it up alraedy. GT was great for a long time…simply because there was NO competition on the market. now that Forza has come out and crushed it in every conceiveable way, you fanboys just can’t admit reality. GT’s time is over. It still has a powerful name, but has been eclipsed in performance, physics, damage, wear and AI. the items that make or break a sim.
i’m wondering tho; when GT5 launches, can we use your idea it’s not fair to compare GT5 (new) to Forza 2 (a 3 year old game by the time GT 5 hits)? or is this another example of ps3 fanboy-double-standard?
June 1st, 2009
Sorry, but epic fail for you here, kev. There was no quote from Kaz, just a made up number with no source to back it up…and if they can’t even get the polygon numbers right, they’re not credible.
I like how you claim that I’m going to be comparing a new game to an old in some kind of hypocrisy, when that’s exactly what you’re doing right now…you’re even comparing across different generations.
Although again, when you’re desperate for an advantage, it’s an understandable stance
June 2nd, 2009
lockdown – if you do a google you will find quotes from kaz. i can’t get to the links from here at work. but you know EXACTLY where to find this info; you simply choose to ignore it.
i was comparing Forza 1 and 2 (uses the same physics engine) and GT4 and GT5 prologue (using the same physics engine).
the car’s poly count are not firm for every car. some have 2,000 some have 4,000…some in between. please…for the love of gawd…go learn more about this.
the only thing sadder than a rabid fanboy is an ignorant rabid fanboy…..
June 2nd, 2009
Oh I see.
So now “some have 2,000 some have 4,000″…right, I got you. So that must be why the link you gave me said “between 2000 and 3000″. Dear.oh.dear.oh.dear.
“Yamauchi pointed out the cars in Gran Turismo 4 were made up of 4,000 polygons.”
uk.ps3.gamespy.com/playstation-3/gran-turismo-5-prologue/815915p1.html
Admit it, there’s no 300 quote from Kaz, and you know it. But I can wait until you get home to give me quote I you want to try to prove me otherwise….although not that it really matters, given that GT5:P is here….but now you’re claiming that GT4 and GT5:P are using the same physics engine?
Proof please.