E3 2009: Quantum: PS3’s answer to Gears of War?
During Sony’s press conference the company had a fairly long sizzle showcase video where all of the upcoming PS3 games were shown in a flash of lightning. A small snippet of Quantum was shown in the video, but the game was surprisingly missing from the actual conference presentation. However, Tecmo did highlight the game as one of its showpiece titles during its press release.
Interestingly, Quantum, a game many have referred to as a Gears of War-like title did not get much attention during Sony’s E3 conference. I highly suspect that Sony is saving this game for the Tokyo Game Show in September, since that is where it was first announced last year.
However, just because Sony wants to keep it quiet until the Tokyo Game Show doesn’t necessarily mean Tecmo won’t be showcasing the game. At the Tecmo booth, Quantum has a sizable presence with all new gameplay footage showing the action and shooting mechanics.
At a first glance it does look awfully like Gears of War with the huge hulking guys and big guns. However, as you look a little closer at the gameplay and story you will notice it has a unique mixture of Ninja Gaiden action with Gears of War shooting/cover gameplay elements. You will be able to do crazy combos like Ninja Gaiden or Devil May Cry and use the shape-shifting environment as cover. If you watch the video above you can see that the game is something different altogether and can’t be really categorized as a Gears copy.
Unfortunately, there will be no co-op in the single player campaign currently. However, I suppose that could change considering Tecmo’s surprising interest in implementing co-op into Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2. There will be an extensive online mode with a capture the flag or VIP style team gameplay, which reminds one of Fat Princess. Quantum will also have your standard mixture of team death match.
Quantum is set to drop in early 2010, probably close to the launch of God of War 3. Tecmo surprisingly had a very pro-Sony vibe this E3 with the company showcasing three games launching for Sony. I will talk a little more about the other two games later on.
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June 5th, 2009
badass
June 5th, 2009
STAR OCEAN IS FINALLY AVAILABLE IN AUS!
It was $89 at JB, but I think i’ll try to finish Last Remnant off first, anyway, it would probably be cheaper online somewhere. Am trying not to let temptation get the better of me and lookup a walkthru.
June 5th, 2009
Does anyone know if Halo Reach is going to be a master chief game? The at the end of the trailer a voice on the radio said that they’ve got spartanS in the battle already. An army of spartans would kick butt.
June 5th, 2009
Speaking of Halo, the horde mode twin looks like it could be fun for ODST.
June 5th, 2009
Forza 3 has been confirmed as 2 discs. Apparently disc 1 is the game, disc 2 is supplementary material such as cars etc which you install on the drive.
June 5th, 2009
Game looks f’in awesome. Sucks about the lack of co op though. It looks like a perfect candidate for it. They need to lock the series up as exclusive.
June 5th, 2009
@Harry: off topic chat should be in the forum.
June 5th, 2009
Harry, I think I’ve asked you thins before, but why are the prices so high in AU?
Phranc, Yeah co-op would be pretty cool. Hopefully they invested into making the game longer instead. I would take a 40 hour story over co-op anytime.
June 5th, 2009
*asked you THIS…*
June 5th, 2009
What do Arcade users do with the second Forza disc?
Sony seems to be saving a couple of things for TGS…hopefully GT5 is one of them and we’ll get a “blowout” of information, hehe….
See what I did there??
June 5th, 2009
I saw the gameplay videos on the PSN yesterday, the game blow me away!!
by the Way, Sony has more games to announce at Tokyo Game Show.
and if you worry you will not be able to play ur current UMD games on the PSP Go! here is what sony has to say:
“”We’re in the midst of putting together a good will program,We’ll be unveiling that soon [because] we actually think there’s a significant group that will be upgrading from the 1000…In the past, we’ve seen a 20-25% trade-up factor, and I assume that’s going to be the case here. We’ve modeled that. So we’re looking at a good-will program: a short term good-will program that would continue for years afterward.”
June 5th, 2009
I hope Sony either buys the IP or publishers the game worldwide with a simultaneously release date. And this game will have Co-Op before it launches. Is so obvious Tecmo is trying to cash on PLAYSTATION 3 with this game by making a Gears of War style game exclusive to us. I think is gonna sell a lot, hopefully they can copy everything and make work better then Epic Games. I have high hope for this awesome soon to be greatest hit.
June 5th, 2009
I believe Sony is funding the game which means its going to be a PS3 Exclusive
June 5th, 2009
Kazunori Yamauchi – GT5 “is at a point where we can release it any time we want.”
Tokyo Game Show? I personally am a bit skeptical, but we’ll see.
June 5th, 2009
Harry
I was looking at the Horde mode for Halo ODST this morning. It looks absolutly amazing. Halo has so many game plays and this will fit in perfectly. I can’t wait.
June 5th, 2009
when is Halo Kart coming out? or Halo Tennis?
June 5th, 2009
I’m calling GT5 = December 3rd 2009 release.
100% cast iron lock, I’m certain of it.
June 5th, 2009
dont me those kind of prediction as we all know Sony likes to take their time to make their games better
June 5th, 2009
lock_down:
“What do Arcade users do with the second Forza disc”?
Save it for the day when they get a hard drive?
Be glad they weren’t locked out of the full game?
Who knows?
Personally I find the whole Xbox PS3 hard drive thing a bore.
Of course it’s best to have a hard drive but if you really don’t see the need no-one’s foirciung you (although this maybe does point the way ahead for the bigger games and the limitation Xbox Arcade has).
Besides, the PS3 thing is very double edged.
Thanks to Blu-ray PS3 game encourage big files (and as RE5 shows more than a doubling in size – 6gb v 13gb).
PS3 also forces loading to the hard drive.
With all those big files.
So the standard hard drive in a PS3 ends up looking pretty small too (although the new 160gb version will go some way to helping that).
Do any of the people moaning about Xbox prices & hard drives etc automatically add in the price of a decent sized hard drive.
I’ve yet to see it but you may as well add it to the cost of a PS3 cos unless you do a lot of juggling you will be needing it.
Just like the 120gb Xbox hard drive is obviously too small now.
Anyhoo, back on topic.
Interesting question Mike.
Maybe when the game actually appears we’ll be able to comment on what it is or isn’t, eh?
June 5th, 2009
Harry: “Forza 3 has been confirmed as 2 discs. Apparently disc 1 is the game, disc 2 is supplementary material such as cars etc which you install on the drive.”
Lock Down: “What do Arcade users do with the second Forza disc?”
Very good question. My guess would be: they don’t get to play the game. Kev? CAD? Happy? Any other suggestions?
-Arvis
P.S. Screw the forum.
June 5th, 2009
Happy beat me to it. Pretty sad answer to the question, though. Looks like I was right again, Happy!
-Arvis
June 5th, 2009
Happy (another laudsy comment):
“Personally I find the whole Xbox PS3 hard drive thing a bore.”
Developers dont, as they prefer a console with a harddrive in every unit.
Regular Xbox had a Hard Drive, but since M$ wants ur Money they took it off.
June 5th, 2009
Arvis, Did you get a chance to play the co-op portion of the beta? It’s pretty short, but I thought it was a lot of fun.
As far as the forum, there have been a few joke postings (guilty as charged), but there are a few interesting conversations going on.
Favorite Final Fantasy game?
://blorge.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=58
Project Natal
://blorge.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=59
The Wii: has it revolutionized or ruined gaming?
://blorge.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=34
You can also start up a conversation as well.
June 5th, 2009
Arvis, Did you get a chance to play the co-op portion of the beta? It’s pretty short, but I thought it was a lot of fun.
As far as the forum, there have been a few joke postings (guilty as charged), but there are a few interesting conversations going on.
Favorite Final Fantasy game?
blorge.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=58
Project Natal
blorge.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=59
The Wii: has it revolutionized or ruined gaming?
blorge.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=34
June 5th, 2009
Arvis, right about what?
What’s “sad” about them giving Arcade owners the full game less some of the trimmings?
Is that not better than the alternative & them not doing so?
Roca
Wrong.
Again.
I was more than happy to buy my new 120gb Elite for just £10 more than the regular cost of an Arcade.
June 5th, 2009
OK that is pretty convincing Happy
- I was wrong because you bought ur RRoD elite for £10 more.
then ur wrong because i was more than happy to pay $600 for my 60bg. (which at the end the Elite is going to end up costing you more)
June 5th, 2009
Barnabe,
I believe on another site I referred to the co-op beta as “a gamer’s dream come true.” So yes, I quite like it.
Happy: Arcade owners are essentially getting a partial game… for the full price. How is that NOT sad???
-Arvis
June 5th, 2009
Be fair Arvis…Arcade users bought a partial console, so it’s only fair they get a partial game
June 5th, 2009
“Be fair Arvis…Arcade users bought a partial console, so it’s only fair they get a partial game”
M$ is probably laughing at them
June 5th, 2009
You’re making a habit of laughably feeble come-backs Roca.
My Elite cost me a fraction of what you paid and has never forced me to pay a penny more than that.
How is the Elite costing me more, what for?
lock_down
Should they have been denied the game then, is that what you’re saying?
At least this way they get the full game (less some frills) and the option to get the frills if they decide a hard drive is worth it to them.
June 5th, 2009
Happy :
“How is the Elite costing me more, what for?”
- if you got Live = $50/year
- rechargable batteries = $20
- if you have Wi-Fi = $100
just paying $50/year for XBL is going to be enough
“Should they have been denied the game then, is that what you’re saying?”
nope, they sould have never maid “half of a system” like the Arcade.
June 5th, 2009
Roca
I already had several AA rechargable batteries.
I originally linked by cable to my PC & the net.
Then I chose to buy the official adaptor cos it was neater and the cost meant nothing to me.
The best you have to cry about is the tiny pennies a day cost of XBL.
Sorry but I’m just not missing that at all, it’s my choice and I’m happy to pay, i’m not forced into anything.
So, once again, you’re flat out wrong and showing yourself up for the tedious bigot fanboy you are.
You’ll also find that no-one forced anyone to buy the Arcade version of Xbox.
But those that do will find it just as functional as anyone else’s if they later decide to fit a hard drive.
Something that can’t be said for the lesser spec’d PS3, in fact.
You’ll have to try harder than that, bigot fanboy.
June 5th, 2009
“Should they have been denied the game then, is that what you’re saying?”
Come on, are you kidding me? Of course they shouldn’t be denied the game.
Now, I’m pretty good with finding information on the internet, but I can find no official answer or reason as to what you do with the 2 discs; but the likely scenarios are that you can either install disc 2 for a full experience; or a make do with a compromised experience by swapping discs if you bought the Arcade model.
Neither scenario is acceptable.
Isn’t that the reason that the 360 version of GTA4 doesn’t install to the system because not every 360 has a hard drive? Isn’t that the reason why Sam Houser said developing for the 360 was difficult because not every 360 has a hard drive? (Yes, it was…and also because of DVD constraints as well).
And as I’ve said numerous times, if anyone can explain to me how you’re going to play an open world game like GTA by swapping discs, I would love to know.
One of the advantages that Xbox users keep touting is the fact that with DVD, there are no need for installs…so why does Forza 3 need installs for a seamless experience? It makes no sense.
The fact is is that the 360 is simply on the cusp of unraveling, and it’s going to unravel further in the future.
Not only have we now clarified that shipping multiple DVD’s IS expensive and a big deal, we’re also now discovering that the extra content on these DVD’s has to be installed onto a hard drive that a proportion of 360’s DO NOT HAVE if you want the extra content and a full experience, yet you have to make do with swapping discs if you happen to be the poor sod who got sucked in by the cheap price and got the hamstrung model.
Shane Kim has pledged that the 360 is going to be around until 2015, and Forza games average 1 every two years, so where does that leave the next 3 bi-yearly iterations of Forza? 3 DVD’s, 4 DVD’s? What of people who just bought the Arcade Model?
What does this mean for future GTA games? More compromising because of DVD worries?
It’s simply ridiculous.
If DVD’s are such an advantage over Blu-Ray, and having a hard drive is not essential, I don’t understand how you can sell a 2 disc game that does not work as it is intended on an SKU that a customer purchased in good faith, without upgrading, or having a compromised experience.
There is simply no defence.
June 5th, 2009
@norm,
“@Harry: off topic chat should be in the forum.”
So it’s ok when you guys go off topic then? E.G The last Microsoft article (around 6 articles ago….).
Barnabe, no idea, they keep telling us that import costs, licensing etc is the reason. It’s a load of shit, there are publishers here that produce the discs, there’s no importing at all.
I don’t give a crap about arcade owners, so the question about the second disc doesn’t concern me. They’ll probably think of something by the time the game comes out.
June 5th, 2009
Of course there’s a ‘defense’ – and a fair and honest one at that.
If you choose the lower spec model you face only getting the lower spec game.
Just like if you chose one of the lower spec’d PS3s you face not getting certain features there, same as with just about anything with a range of spec that you can buy.
It’s hardly an alien concept.
It’s not as if a little 20gb hard drive (or even the 60gb one) is especially expensive now.
DVD will do just fine.
There’s certainly no need for a dying over-priced new disc-based format.
Especially if they use multi discs like this and with full game downloading on the horizon.
I expect they will just begin to make it more and more obvious on the marketing that a hard drive is preferable for the full experience.
I also expect the 60gb drive to go (like the 20gb one), the 120gb drive to be the new entry level size (with price adjustment, just like happened to the 20gb drive when the 60 & 120gb sizes appeared) and a much bigger 400gb or 500gb drive to come in where the 120gb drive used to be as the top size.
As soon as it breaks out into the market I’m buying & ebaying my 120gb drive.
Some might find all that the most awful & unreasonable possible future possible but I don’t.
Arcade is a low cost entry-level machine capable of being upgraded to the higher spec in a way the low spec PS3s can’t be.
I don’t call that ‘bad’.
June 5th, 2009
Star Ocean, only now in AUS?
Wow, just wow.
I mean, what kind of translations can there be? Dog, dingo? BBQ, Barby? All done.
Buy yeah, thats just lame. I hate games publishers and thier politc’n
June 5th, 2009
‘If you choose the lower spec model you face only getting the lower spec game.’
Question is, did it ever say ’some features of certain games will not be accessable’ on the box?
I’d be kinda annoyed if I had the arcade, BUT, anyone with half a brain would’ve avoided it like the plague.
June 5th, 2009
SW
I think the (IMHO mostly) kids & their parents who bought the an Arcade will probably neither know nor care.
Those that do will push for a hard drive and the adults that care will just shell out for a hard drive, if they’re really that bothered.
Either way it’s nothing I’d call a big deal.
June 5th, 2009
‘Arcade is a low cost entry-level machine capable of being upgraded to the higher spec in a way the low spec PS3s can’t be.’
That depends on which PS3’s you’re referring to.
The only things left in production according to wiki are the 80 and 120 which are identical (save the hdd), and they are also the same as the 40 that I have (again except for the hdd). USB hubs and card readers can also be added, & wifi can be added via 3rd party support and of course the hdd’s can be swapped out too.
In fact, as far as i can tell, the only thing you can’t get back is the ps2 backwards compatability. OH and that **SUPER AWESOME** future format, the SUPZOR AUZIOR CD!!!!! support.
And finally the coup de grace to the 360… The Arcade comes without an ethernet cable.
0WNED!!!
Ok that was a joke, but lets see who takes it seriously…
June 5th, 2009
Happy,
thats because the every PS3 is ready to go as soon as you take it auto the box.
and i never said u wasnt happy paying $50 a year for XBL all i said was that ur going to end up spending more than what the ps3 cost.
ur going to miss all the great games for being a fanboy.
June 5th, 2009
SW,
“wifi can be added via 3rd party support ”
Every PS3/PSP comes with built-in Wi-fi
June 5th, 2009
in fact every Wii/PS3/PSP/DS and Iphone come with Wi-fi..
why is M$ charging $100 and an add-on.
June 5th, 2009
“If you choose the lower spec model you face only getting the lower spec game.”
Happy, do you SERIOUSLY not see what’s wrong with that sentence? Would you really go to such lengths to defend this serious flaw in the 360 brand?
Even Harry is honest enough to say “I don’t give a crap about Arcade owners,” admitting it’s a problem, but one that doesn’t affect him. Fair play.
I’m not saying Arcade owners shouldn’t get the game. I’m saying that Microsoft shouldn’t have made the 360 suck so much.
-Arvis
June 5th, 2009
Roca,
No, the early 20gb did not have wifi.
June 5th, 2009
Actually Roca you said
“i was more than happy to pay $600 for my 60bg. (which at the end the Elite is going to end up costing you more)”
In fact my Elite cost me £135 (about $235 in todays money).
So whatever extras or subs I’ve chosen to pay you’re still laughably wide of the mark & very wrong.
Again.
Arvis
There’’s nothing wrong with the statement you quoted.
Xbox sold at 2 and later 3 spec levels.
That (and the implications of it) might shock you (or so you might pretend) but there you are.
Anyone unaware of that or expecting an identical performance across the range is either deluded, lying or (like the PS3 fanclub’s synthetic outrage) utterly unreasonable.
They can always just go and buy a hard drive if it’s such a horrendous deal for them.
It’s not even as thought they’re that expensive nowadays.
I’m actually not ‘defending’ anything.
I am simply making what ought to be a statement of the bl&eding obvious.
The differing spec levels necessarily mean some differences.
The amazing thing is that so far it has meant so little across the range, so far.
Arcade owners are in fact getting the full game here too.
They are just going to miss out on some of the frills.
Big deal.
But I’m sure all those Arcade owners are all massively heatened by that (synthetic faked) outrage yuou PS3 fanboys feel for them.
I bet they’re really grateful.
I do hope you can calm yourselves enough to get over this & get the knot out of your panties in time to enjoy the wk/end.
June 5th, 2009
Oh you guys…
June 5th, 2009
I know Barnabe.
I am looking forward to the 1st 50gb DL Blu-ray game which forces running from the hard drive (as so many do now) and therefore is incapable of being run by the original launch 20gb PS3 & the 40gb PS3.
I look forward to all the umteen posts of indigant outrage and claims that the PS3 “sucks” because of it.
Yeah right, as if.
June 5th, 2009
I know, I know, I also love this place Barnabe
June 5th, 2009
HH – You need to get the knot out of your panties and go enjoy the weekend, chum…
June 5th, 2009
Ha ha! Happy, you have a good weekend, too, you old scoundrel! *refrains from tousling hair*
See you back here on Monday.
-Arvis
June 5th, 2009
“I am looking forward to the 1st 50gb DL Blu-ray game which forces running from the hard drive (as so many do now) and therefore is incapable of being run by the original launch 20gb PS3 & the 40gb PS3.”
Why are these specific models incapable of doing this?
June 5th, 2009
Oh hang on, are you implying that all 50gb will be installed to the hard drive?
That’s fantasy…MGS4 is currently the largest PS3 game at about 38gb, and that installs 4.6gb.
June 5th, 2009
lock_down
So the day that happens with the 20gb version (which would seem to be the most likely from the numbers you’ve given are) you’ll say what?
That people buying the stripped down version should
a) have known what they were getting into?
b) just buy a bigger hard drive and get over it?
c) why should we care, I have a nice big hard drive for all that nonsense?
I’ll see if I can find the world’s smallest violin for those still blubbing about this.
Here you go knock yourself out.
h**p://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kXnVoQ9ZFkQ/SZsZmpbYOAI/AAAAAAAAHcc/Us9KuimcF-k/s400/worlds-smallest-violin.jpg
Have a good one guys.
June 5th, 2009
The question about what do Arcade owners do if they have no hard drive for the 2nd disk.
Personally It’s not my problem if you bought an arcade. Besides I don’t know anyone who has an arcade. OK, I know 1 person who did but they bought a 20 Gig HD used at the same time to cut down their cost. There are plenty of used drive in the game stores. But I suppose they will still be able to play the game but they just won’t have access to the other cars and tracks installed on that disk.
June 5th, 2009
“just paying $50/year for XBL is going to be enough”
$50 is not an issue Roca. Maybe it is to you but I’m happy to pay for it especially when you compare what PS3 is offering. Microsoft does so much more for us and is able to make my gaming experience better so I really don’t mind. You should thank Microsoft because if we didn’t do it first your PS3 experience would not be what it is today and all the feature that you enjoy courtesy of Sony copying Microsoft, Sony would not have thought up because Sony has no innovation.
June 5th, 2009
Roca your assertion that we pay more is pure bullshit. Here is the Bottom Line. Right off the shelf 360 cost less Period. You wanna talk 100 for wireless add-on let lets talk about the fact you have to go buy a blutooth headset to talk online and a HDMI Cable to get HD. Plus the fact that PS3 games cost more because of the bluray disk. Really all that does not matter to me but the reality is that even if it did cost more in the long run then that’s what it is. The point is that People like a good price and if they ned more they can get those options. I’m not rich but I can afford things over time. I cannot fathom paying $800 for a PS3 which was the price when I bought my 360 for $399 it’s cheaper now but back then it was not and back then is when I bought mine so yes I feel fine knowing I didn’t drop and extra $400 on a game console that pretty much copied the features of the 360 with every update.
June 5th, 2009
On top of that Roca I got 4 games with my purchase and the PS3 had none. there is Value for you and most of the time the 360 comes packaged with games.
June 5th, 2009
Yep, MS invented not only Oxygen, the oceans, masturbation and even sex. Sony copied sex, but it came out as gay sex. Microsoft then improved on sex by making Lesbian sex.
@HH (even tho you’re too cool for blorge and have gone for the weekend…)
‘So the day that happens with the 20gb version (which would seem to be the most likely from the numbers you’ve given are) you’ll say what?’
What a load of fucking crap. The numbers he gave? How the fuck did you manage to twist the game size into the install size?
Oh ok, so we’ll just say you have to install both discs or Forza now. Oh darn, there’s all the 360 20gig users deleting any other games that they have installed. Wow, now my premium is handicapped!
They day someone creates a game for the PS3 that installs over 20 gigs of data (which to my knowledge has happened on a few very number/if any PC games (conan was big)) then, THEN we can say that yep sony couldve put a bigger drive in it (which they did eventually) but they’re not totally to blame because no install of that size had even been attempted when it was in production (on any platform).
June 5th, 2009
Woah SW, what happened, your girl jib you or something?
I’m here a while yet & wioll probably show sat & sun this wk/end.
No need to fret.
Your point (they’re not totally to blame because no install of that size had even been attempted when it was in production) is fair but it also applies to the Xbox 360.
When it appeared there was no chance of not having a hard drive crippling the game experience.
Come on, even now we’re still talking about 1 game and even here an Arcade buyer can (if they choose) still buy and play the game without a hard drive.
3.5 yrs in I think that’s not bad at all.
June 5th, 2009
I don’t think I ever really referenced Forza until the last post
. Even then it was only to use when making my point.
I stick by my point earlier saying that i’d be pissed if i found out i needed to go buy a hdd, but if i were to blame anyone it would be the developers.
June 5th, 2009
if this were to sell better than gears you might see it on the ps3 then
June 6th, 2009
“I am looking forward to the 1st 50gb DL Blu-ray game which forces running from the hard drive (as so many do now) and therefore is incapable of being run by the original launch 20gb PS3 & the 40gb PS3.”
@Happyhockum
Um Happy, sorry I can’t access the link you provided on the computer I’m using at the moment, so forgive me if that answers what I am about to ask you? 50GB download, why in the world would that happen? Is that fact or just something you are saying? I mean 50Gb would take forever to download, take up way too much space, and just frankly not worth it! Weather I have a 20GB or 500GB HDD, no thank you to 50GB downloads! At least not untill HDD become massive and you have light speed bandwith! If this is fact then your point is taken, if it’s something you are thinking is going to happen, then you are cluthcing at straws to argue your point!
June 6th, 2009
Knighthawk
You’ve completely gotten the wrong end of the stick here.
I wasn’t talking about downloads.
June 7th, 2009
^
Ah , please explain then? “1st 50gb DL Blu-ray game which forces running from the hard drive” Thought the DL was download. Why then could the 20GB or 40GB modles not handle this? You are talking about games that need to be installed to run on the PS3? Can’t see you having to install 50GB of data!
June 8th, 2009
Happy
“I am looking forward to the 1st 50gb DL Blu-ray game which forces running from the hard drive (as so many do now) and therefore is incapable of being run by the original launch 20gb PS3 & the 40gb PS3.”
another stupid comment from the retard
CAD: “Plus the fact that PS3 games cost more because of the bluray disk”
X360 games = $60
PS3 Games = $60
do PS3 games really cost more??? *idiots”
June 8th, 2009
Roca – he was talking about the cost (not price) to create the game on a bluray disk.
come back when you learn the difference between cost and price.
…idiots….
June 8th, 2009
if a PS3 game has a $60 price tag…how much does it COST you?
*Idiots*
June 8th, 2009
by the way we were talking about how much money we (gamers) spend on our console/games. so the cost of creating a game doesnt have nothing to do with our conversation
..idiots….
June 8th, 2009
@CAD
“Microsoft does so much more for us and is able to make my gaming experience better so I really don’t mind.”
Hmmm…let’s compare:
PSN can download movies/shows/rentals? Check, with even more studio support than ever.
PSN can download demos/games/addon? Check..
PSN allows me to play ANY game online free? Check..
Hmmm….seems all the same features LIVE offers, MINUS the $50 bucks….
So on one hand we got : Free Service MINUS Cross Game Voice Chat
And the other, we have Cross Game Chat MINUS $50 bucks from you wallet…
June 8th, 2009
Knighthawk,
You will never get an answer to your question. happy is notorious for backtracking and flat-out disappearing when he’s caught being ridiculous.
-Arvis
June 8th, 2009
@CAD..again..
“Here is the Bottom Line. Right off the shelf 360 cost less Period.”
Agree…but that is ONLY right off the bat, and you lose ALL kinds of features, and now including the ability to play a full game…good job Microsoft, and good job on MS fanboys supporting this type of severing of the 360s fanbase: Those who can play a full game and those who are shit out luck<–just the kind of business practices Microsoft is solely known for…
“You wanna talk 100 for wireless add-on let lets talk about the fact you have to go buy a blutooth headset to talk online and a HDMI Cable to get HD.”
CAD. $20 bucks for a BT headset and you ALSO have to buy a HDMI cable, for the Arcade silly, guess you forgot the list i showed you not too long ago…well, you are a MS fanboy, can’t expect you to remember more than 3 minutes at at time..
“Plus the fact that PS3 games cost more because of the bluray disk.”
Hmm last time i checked games the I, the GAMER, ACTUALLY pay is the same $59.99 that 360 boyz pay too…I’ve stated before, i don’t give a shit if publishers have to front money, thats the industry/risk they chose to play on, i just play the games
“Really all that does not matter to me”
Yet, here you are bringing it up as a “strength” for MS, when they are the ones raping you for evey teeny little feature and call it a “service”…ironic..
“but the reality is that even if it did cost more in the long run then that’s what it is. ”
Thank you, it DOES cost more in the long run, and judging by everyone’s camp, its gonna be a long generation
“The point is that People like a good price and if they ned more they can get those options.”
People also love VALUE, and nothing beats the Value of the PS3
“I’m not rich but I can afford things over time. I cannot fathom paying $800″
WoW, my PS3 was $599, not sure who was trying to rip you off…
June 8th, 2009
@Happy
“Come on, even now we’re still talking about 1 game and even here an Arcade buyer can (if they choose) still buy and play the game without a hard drive.
3.5 yrs in I think that’s not bad at all.”
Let me rephrase for you: “..An Arcade buyer can, still buy and play the game without a hard drive, with less features than those with a hard drive.”
I honestly can’t fathom how you don’t see a problem with this? It’s horrible. It’s exactly the kind of practice that will fuck the gaming industry. Why?
Imagine if this business model sells?
It will be ONLY a matter of WHEN, publishers, will make dumbed down versions of games, only to “add” features later: Imagine. Forza 4 with over 1000 cars and tracks**
**In order to enjoy all tracks, you must purchase MS( or whoever ) Hard Drive, and use the Update feature to update, which is only available to LIVE Gold subscribers…the actual games comes with only 500 cars and 4 tracks and is single player only….
That is what is wrong with it. The implications of such a business model. Again, it’s not just a MS thing, but it can spread like wildfire in our industry. Just look at some of the DLC i.e most recently being the Resident Evil 5 DLC fiasco….
Its a snowball, and its gaining momentum….market crash here we come!
June 9th, 2009
I don’t read long posts….
June 9th, 2009
I just can’t believe its not butter.