PS3 vs. Xbox 360 – New price cutting war on way

August 13, 2009

PS3 vs. Xbox 360 - New price cutting war on wayThe Wii cannot now be beaten this generation. But the PS3 and Xbox 360 are still pushing for that second place, with the aim to sell as many consoles between now and the birth of the next generation. I think a good old-fashioned pricing war is well overdue, and there’s one due to arrive by the end of this year.

I think we’re all pretty much agreed that the Wii has this generation sewn up. Nintendo has earned enough money from its underpowered, over-hyped little white box that each and every executive at the company could wipe their ass with $100 dollar notes and the supply would never run out. But that still leaves a battle for second place well and truly up for grabs.

There are going to be a few different factors coming into play when it comes to deciding which console out of the PS3 and Xbox 360 secures second place behind the Wii. Games, particularly exclusive titles, are very important. As are the extra features each console carries, such as a Web browser, Netflix streaming, and the quality of online play. But pricing also has its place.

The Xbox 360 has had this area all to itself for the past couple of years. The PS3 has arguably been overpriced since release and continues to be to this day. While Microsoft has made price cuts galore to keep the Xbox 360 competitive with the Wii as well as being considerably cheaper than the PS3. Both consoles could be about to get further movement on price.

The PS3 Slim is all but confirmed now, with the evidence stacking up by the day. An official announcement is expected next week at GamesCom in Germany. A new lower price point for the hardware is almost guaranteed, and this could coincide with the bigger versions of the console also getting significant price cuts.

Meanwhile, Kotaku reports that Microsoft is doing away with the Xbox 360 Pro at the end of August and replacing it with the Xbox 360 Elite at the same price point. The Arcade could also see a modest price cut to push home Microsoft’s casual gaming advantage.

Any pricing war is likely to be accompanied by new marketing pushes by both sides in the run-up to the holiday season. So it looks as though the PS3 vs. Xbox 360 battle which has quietened down in recent months is well and truly back on. Let the fun and games commence.

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238 Responses to “PS3 vs. Xbox 360 – New price cutting war on way”

  1. Knighthawk:

    This is going to be flame fest! Honestly, this is getting quite boring. Have fun fanboys!

  2. Kevo/Sir_Chubs_Alot08:

    the xbox 360 and ps3 complete each other as to batman and the joker…um but here we go the ps3 priced at 300 dollhairs will be a lot more appealing to the 360 at a pricepoint of 150 but thats all ill say

  3. Ghost:

    I will just be happy when Sony finally starts releasing more of there exclusives. Damn I getting sick of wating for the games I want to come out.(lol)

  4. Andrew_DS:

    KEvo : A ps4th at $300 is more appealing than a 360 at $150? I don’t see $150 worth of desirable difference between the two.

    I know the sony fanboys will do the usual blu ray this and exclusive that, but for me MS would get my money.

    Graphically (which seems so important?!) the price difference is not evident.

    Personally I think the places are set for this generation. I cant see sony doing a massive sales surge based on there exclusives that people keep touting about. Most people that take note of sony exclusives will have a ps4th already. Likewise with the 360. It now just comes down to getting the neutrals on board, and that will be roughly a 50/50 split.

  5. lock_down:

    Well it will put the PS3 and 360 on a level price field at $299 (presumably), so if the slim doesn’t sell, that’s when Sony need to be concerned.

    All we need to know now is what the final design looks like. It’s too bad that they’ll be getting rid of the touch sensitive glass buttons…they are well funky.

  6. harry sachz:

    Thanks Knighthawk!

    Andrew hit the nail on the head. Most fans of either platform already have their console, the neutrals who don’t don’t know about upcoming games etc. Sure there is a % of people who are considering buying the other machine to compliment their first machine, me included, but the majority of sales from here till the holidays are going to be neutrals.

  7. Ivan_PSP:

    Xbots vs Xbots

  8. Happyhockum:

    120gb Xbox Elite @ the price of the 60gb Pro model just sunk Sony’s hopes.

    The price gap will remain as big as ever and PS3 is staying well behind the Xbox.

  9. Zoar:

    To Mike Ferro:

    Please play the Batman Arkham Asylum Demo, and tell us what you think of it.

  10. Roca.:

    “ps3 priced at 300 dollhairs will be a lot more appealing to the 360 at a pricepoint of 150 but thats all ill say”

    I will have to agree with that, just because there alot of ppl out there (including 360 owner) that been holding up untill the system comes down to a resonably price. the Xbox is already cheap. even buy used there is a big differece between the xbox and the PS3

    Gamestop sells used 360 for $170 and the cheapest PS3 you can get used is $350

  11. Ivan_PSP:

    Happyhockum:
    Would you just wish keep dreaming fool.

    Zoar:
    Batman: Arkham Asylum has awesome graphics and awesome name gotta love the title. Plus i cannot wait to play as the JOKER is gonna be a amazing must have game for all PS3 owners.

  12. Happyhockum:

    Keep up the sad & deranged conversation with yourself Ivan/Roca.

    Only you could seriously claim that a price cut and spec increase (which is what this is for Xbox) will make no difference at all.

    The fact is that a 120gb Elite for the price of the old 60gb Pro is a large & very solid move (bigger hard drive & effectively a $100 price cut – at least) that just shot Sony’s fox good and proper.

    (whatever that may be, its not even as if anyone actually knows what Sony’s move will be yet)

    Naturally you’ll be pretending a (probably relatively pretty minor) price cut and a slim version (with perhaps a lower spec/ability?) will see PS3 storm to the top of the sales charts.

    Yeah right, dream on.
    You’ve been wrong all year so why stop now?

  13. Ivan_PSP:

    Happyhockum:
    You a JOKE… Wake from your fantasy land call Xbox.

    Xbots worried of death LMFAO.

  14. Happyhockum:

    Yeah schizo-boy.

    We just saw a spec increase & (at least) a $100 price-cut.

    Worried about what?

  15. Ivan_PSP:

    Happyhockum:
    Xbox= lag no games well mutltiplaform

  16. Happyhockum:

    You know Ivan/Roca, you’re really unimaginative in your propagandising.

    If you’re going to lie like this at least try and be entertaining.

  17. Ivan_PSP:

    Happyhockum:
    Xbox is a propaganda common sense.

  18. Happyhockum:

    Ivan/Roca

    Try calming down a little & speaking in English, I know it’s a bit of a bind but it’s what most of us here use.

  19. Ivan_PSP:

    Happyhockum:
    LMFAO you again writing crap i know better English then you. Xbots

  20. Happyhockum:

    Dance fanboy dance.

  21. Ivan_PSP:

    Happyhockum:
    LoL no thing to say go figure. Looks who’s talking LMFAO.

  22. phranctoast:

    I wonder how much cheaper the arcade can go down? That I believe would be the real kicker for the 360. I always fealt that, that was where MS was gaining its market share while losing money on hardware.

    Quite frankly…an Elite with twice the HDD space than a PS3 at the same price, still looks pale in comparison to a built in blu ray player. Take into account that you can switch that HDD out for something three times the size of the 360 HDD in the Ps3 for the price of a game and you get win.

  23. Akaro:

    I looooooove corporate competition! Now we just sit back and prepare get more for less.

  24. Ivan_PSP:

    phranctoast:
    Thank you.

  25. Happyhockum:

    phranctoast

    You’re still assuming most care less about a Blu-ray player.

  26. Ivan_PSP:

    Happyhockum:
    You wish. Yo so Blu-Less.
    Xbox 360 ↓
    ♥ PLAYSTATION 3 ↑

  27. CAD:

    All I’m going to say is that I agree with Andrew DS that the positons are pretty much locked in and will remain that way till the end of this generation. But there is more intresting facts to look at. It was reported earlier that 360 has now passed the PS2 in useage minuites. When I heard this I realized that the Amazing # of PS2 sold is an overblown # because we all know that the PS2 was bought over and over through the years because most of them broke down and they were replaced. Given that I believe that the max number of people who will buy consoles has reached it’s max and that it’s the neutrals now and the cross buyers that are left. So basically like I said the positoins are pretty much locked down.

  28. Happyhockum:

    Ivan/Roca

    Thanks but I have Blu-ray, you dumb goon.

    CAD check your XBL, for a hello from the HH.

  29. Ivan_PSP:

    CAD:
    You so predictable. What you think of the Xbox 360 sales are they all real sure.

  30. Ivan_PSP:

    Happyhockum:
    LoL

  31. Happyhockum:

    Try that in English Ivan/Roca.

  32. phranctoast:

    No Happy,

    I’m assuming most people care more about a blu ray player than an additional 80gig.

    If you look at it from a cost perspective it’s not even close to even.

  33. Ivan_PSP:

    phranctoast:
    Even if you don’t like gaming just Blu-ray a PS3 is the best option for like a tiny bit more. PlayStation is the ultimate gaming machine and Blu-ray player. PS3 is like having your entertainment world in your living room well it is.

  34. Happyhockum:

    phranctoast

    If that really were the case then Xbox wouldn’t be crucifying PS3 every month in NPD – especially in US/Canada where they have more HD TV market penetration than anywhere outside of Japan.t

  35. Ivan_PSP:

    Happyhockum:
    LoL, You need a better statistic system. Xbox recounts from the repair shop.

  36. phranctoast:

    I’d credit that to price Happy. I don’t know if I would be bragging about a system half the price not coming close to selling twice as much if I were you. Hardly “crucifying”

    Just so we’re all on the same page, Im talking about a ps3 slim 80 gig for 299 vs a 360 Elite 160 gig for same price.

    If you really think the 360 is a better deal, more power to you, but anyone without fanboy goggles could spot the better deal.

  37. Ivan_PSP:

    phranctoast:
    Thanks… ♥PlayStation♥

  38. Roca.:

    CAD:
    “All I’m going to say is that I agree with Andrew DS that the positons are pretty much locked in and will remain that way till the end of this generation.”

    Says Partcher right?

    Happy:
    “Thanks but I have Blu-ray, you dumb goon.”

    at a extra cost, and that money to Sony anyways

  39. Roca.:

    phranctoast,

    “Just so we’re all on the same page, Im talking about a ps3 slim 80 gig for 299 vs a 360 Elite 160 gig for same price. ”

    the elite has only a 120GB HDD

  40. phranctoast:

    Roca,

    I’m assuming they bump up the specs of the elite and drop its price by $100.

    I still feel the PS3 is a better deal.

    I don’t think the Arcade will change much in price however. While $150 is the sweet spot, I find it hard to believe MS will get there too soon, even if they could afford to do so.

  41. lock_down:

    “I believe that the max number of people who will buy consoles has reached it’s max”

    There’s so much fail going on right there. $149-$199 is where a console sells the most. Neither the Wii or PS3 are yet at those price points. The 360 is, but who knows what the sale ratio between Elite/Pro/Arcade is.

    I think the Arcade will disappear over the next year, and MS will make the Elite the only SKU.

  42. Ivan_PSP:

    Roca.:
    Yeah that’s the max you buy one for $150 LMFAO ripoff. I have a 80gb model with 320 GB added on and my other PS3 60gb model i got 250 GB. all for less then a $90.

  43. Barnabe Jones:

    I think it should be pretty interesting. The price cut/slim & GOW 3 & GT 5 should help to move some serous units.

    Sure M$ is cutting the price also, but they don’t have any huge game releases in the near future.

    My money is on the PS3. Halo 2.75 just isn’t going to cut it.

  44. Roca.:

    Halo 2.75 ??? lol

  45. phranctoast:

    prob ODST.

    I’d call it Halo 3.072

  46. lock_down:

    Let’s call it Halo Pi = Halo 3.142.

  47. Roca.:

    see how much the franchise has grown in just 3 post. it went from Halo 2.75 to Halo 3.142

  48. Happyhockum:

    phranctoast:
    “Im talking about a ps3 slim 80 gig for 299 vs a 360 Elite 160 gig for same price.”

    Well we’ll have to wait and see what happens.

    We already know this much, the 120gb Xbox is going to be selling for $299.

    But so far everything about this PS3 slim is mere assumption/wishful thinking.

  49. Happyhockum:

    The 80gb Playststion 3 is currently $399 & the 160gb model is $449.

    You really think $299 is likely (besides a short-term stock clearance of the dead 80gb)?

  50. Ivan_PSP:

    Halo is pure garbage they releasing Halo: OSDT a fucking expansion pack how pathetic can Microsoft get. I don’t believe rumors. But the PS3 sure is gonna obliterate the Xbox 360 starting this fall with games like

    UNCHARTED 2: Among Thieves
    Heavy Rain
    Gran Turismo 5
    Demon’s Souls
    The Agency
    God of War III
    MAG
    White Knight Chronicles
    Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2
    Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack in Time
    Twisted Metal
    Quantum
    Under Siege
    Final Fantasy Versus XIII
    Final Fantasy XIV
    L.A. Noire
    ModNation Racers
    The Last Guardian
    Agent
    Afrika
    Amphibian Man
    Big Time Revenge
    Brave Arms
    Data-Fly
    Fifth Phantom Saga
    Last Rebellion

    And many more…

  51. Happyhockum:

    Ah, childish debating tactic No.1 the gish gush.

    A tedious list that’s meant to do what
    (besides bore us all to death)?

  52. Roca.:

    Ivan you know these Xbots hate to see lists because they dont have any games to back it up or to make and good list.

    ohh by the way all the games in between Afrika and Last Rebellion are cancelled or their status is unclear.

    -ModNation racers is also coming for the PSP
    -Afrika is coming in next month

  53. phranctoast:

    is that a joystick in your pocket happy, or did you just take a good look at that list?

    As for the rumor is concerned, until it happens it is only that. All the sins point to yet though. The rumor is 100 Euro price drop (can make the sign on my keyboard)

  54. phranctoast:

    *signs point to yes*

  55. Happyhockum:

    Ivan/Roca

    Nobody else here posts lists cos nobody else is such an obvious & tedious fanboy.

    phranctoast

    No € sign?

    Try pressing & holding down Ctrl & Alt and then pressing 4.

    They just released the 160gb PS3 and it was originally $499 but has fallen to $449 very quickly.
    Do you really think they are goiung to sell a slim PS3 @ $299 with the older SKU @ $150 more?
    I don’t.

  56. Barnabe Jones:

    “control, Alt, and 4″ -*nothing happens*

  57. Happyhockum:

    Nevermind Barnabe, it must be something only UK keyboards can do then
    (dunno why but I thought phranctoast was in the UK).
    Our keyboards don’t come with it as a seperate key but you can get it to appear that way (€ as demonstrated).

    There might be a patch on the MS site (if you really need it).

  58. lock_down:

    Wow, I just found a load of new symbols I never knew existed on my Macbook…excpet it’s Shift, Alt + Number

    ™

    Genius.

  59. Roca.:

    Happy,

    U know what bored of us to hell you, every single post of you with sales numbers, netfilx talk, tweeter, facebook, gaychubbydate, 1 TB SD card for HD movies, HD DVD, DD, you coming out of the closet and so on….

    ^^ all those non-gaming feature are boring as fuck……..remember this is a gaming forum so keep up with the topic. at list a game list show GAMES which is what ur system is lacking of now days

  60. Happyhockum:

    BTW

    I wonder, does a PS3 slim mean an end to fitting a HDD of your own choice?

    (there may be a height issue here, some HDDs are bigger than others)

  61. Ivan_PSP:

    “The Japanese market is the most important key for the Xbox’s global strategy. Microsoft is committing fully to its success in Japan. We will continue to make as much effort as we can to make the Xbox 360 successful in Japan.”

    Yoshihiro Maruyama

    ♥The PlayStation Is The Best Name In Gaming♥

    ☺ ☻ ♥ ♦
    ♣ ♠ • Ω
    ◘ ○ ◙ ♂
    ♀ ♪ ♫ ☼
    ► ◄ ↕ ¥
    √ € ♣ ♠
    « » ♂ ♀
    ® ™ ♫ £

  62. Happyhockum:

    Ivan/Roca

    I’ve told you before, if you can’t speak intelligible English then nobody is going to understand a word you say.

    Here are a few tips –

    - Try to calm down,
    - speak slowly in your own head as you type,
    - say the words out loud if you have to,
    that way it might actually come out as something other than laughable gibberish.

    Good luck with that. ;)

  63. Ivan_PSP:

    Roca.:
    ModNation Racers i wanna get so bad it looks awesome.

  64. phranctoast:

    “I wonder, does a PS3 slim mean an end to fitting a HDD of your own choice?”

    Good point. Its a key feature if you ask me.

  65. Ivan_PSP:

    phranctoast:
    At least wait to see if is real or just a huge fake rumor. Solid-state drive…

  66. Happyhockum:

    Ivan/Roca

    SSD!?

    Jeez, you better hope it’s not cos if it is it’ll be hugely expensive to even buy a small one.

  67. Rimmer:

    I doubt the price drop for the PS3 is going to be more than $50. Sony simply can’t afford any more.

  68. Roca.:

    “I wonder, does a PS3 slim mean an end to fitting a HDD of your own choice?”

    it shouldnt be a problem since the 2.5 HDD is really small. and Since the PSP Go! is going all Digital and Sony is always expanding its Video Store library they (and PS2 games coming soon – Rumored) probably aware of the needs a bigger HDD

  69. Happyhockum:

    Ivan/Roca

    2.5″ HDDs vary in height, they are not all the same (there was an issue with the existing PS3 caddy being able to take all of them).

    The slim (if it comes) may well have an issue.

    Have to laugh at the SSD idea……it would make Microsoft’s 120gb proprietary drive – at it’s release price – look cheap.

  70. phranctoast:

    idk Rimmer. That latest thing i hear is Sony dropped production cost 70%.

    I guess we’ll wait and see. I don’t think Sony can afford to not cut the price.

    Id buy another for my room if it was $250.

  71. Roca.:

    I also head somewhere that the PS3 slim is keeping the same shape of the PS3 but it has now a smaller/better bluray drive, more RAM, it comsume 300 Watts (idk what that has to do with anything) and 4 USB

  72. phranctoast:

    yeah.. SSD is a pipe dream.

  73. Ivan_PSP:

    Memory Stick XC

    In January 7, 2009, Sandisk and Sony launched the Memory Stick XC format series (“XC series”), by extending the Memory Stick PRO format series (“PRO series”), has achieved maximum 2TB capacity, 60 times larger than that of Memory Stick PROTM which is 32GB. XC series has the same form factors as PRO series, and supports MagicGateTM content protection technology as well as Access Control function as PRO series does. XC series uses exFAT file system, while PRO series uses FAT12/16/32. A maximum transfer speed of 480 Mbps (60 MB/s) is achieved through 8-bit parallel data transfer

  74. Roca.:

    ‘I doubt the price drop for the PS3 is going to be more than $50. Sony simply can’t afford any more.’

    lamest comment ever

    ‘idk Rimmer. That latest thing i hear is Sony dropped production cost 70%.’

    keep up with the news

  75. Ivan_PSP:

    Roca.:
    300 Watts damn that’s a lot of electricity and unreal.

    Model (Prefix) PS2 Compatibility SA-CD WiFi: 802.11 b/g Cell/RSX Max Watts USB 2.0 Ports Card Readers Harddrive Release Dates Region Suffixes
    CECHA Hardware Yes Yes 90nm/90nm 200 4 Yes 60GB Nov, 2006 -> Aug, 2007 00 01 06 07 12
    CECHB Hardware Yes No 90nm/90nm 200 4 No 20GB Nov, 2006 -> Apr, 2007 00 01 07 12
    CECHC Software Yes Yes 90nm/90nm 200 4 Yes 60GB Nov, 2006 -> Aug, 2007 02 03 04 08
    CECHD Software Yes No 90nm/90nm 200 4 No 20GB
    CECHE Software Yes Yes 90nm/90nm 200 4 Yes 80GB Aug, 2007 01 05 06 11 12
    CECHF Software Yes Yes 90nm/90nm 200 4 Yes 80GB
    CECHG No No Yes 65nm/90nm 160 2 No 40GB Oct, 2007 01 04 05 06 07 08 11 12
    CECHH No No Yes 65nm/90nm 160 2 No 40GB Oct, 2007 00 01 04 05 06 07 08 11 12
    CECHI No No Yes 65nm/90nm 160 2 No 40GB
    CECHJ No No Yes 65nm/90nm 130 2 No 40GB Aug, 2008 00 04
    CECHK No No Yes 65nm/90nm 130 2 No 80GB Aug, 2008 01 02 03 04 05 06 07
    CECHL No No Yes 65nm/65nm 130 2 No 80GB Aug, 2008 00 01 03 04 12
    CECHM No No Yes 65nm/65nm 130 2 No 80GB Aug, 2008 03
    CECHN No No Yes 65nm/65nm 130 2 No 80GB
    CECHO No No Yes 65nm/65nm 130 2 No 80GB
    CECHP No No Yes 65nm/65nm 130 2 No 160GB Oct, 2008 01 04 07 12
    CECHQ No No Yes 65nm/65nm 130 2 No 160GB Apr, 2009 00

  76. Roca.:

    ‘yeah.. SSD is a pipe dream’

    and yet the System (PS3) has manage to not be affected by it.

  77. Roca.:

    mayb it was 130, I cant double check here at work…

  78. Ivan_PSP:

    ALL PLAYSTATION 3 OWNER GO HERE
    edepot.com/playstation3.html

  79. Happyhockum:

    Ivan/Roca

    Lets see a link for a 2tb memory stick.

    Let’s also see your explaination of what “480 Mbps (60 MB/s)” is meant to mean.
    Do you know what Mbps and MB/s means?

    Busted – you’ve been googling again without understanding what you’re copying & pasting, haven’t you?

  80. SW:

    Roca, I believe they’re talking about the cost and NOT the capability for the PS3 to actually use the drive.

    It would make little sense for sony to put a SSD into the PS3. The aim is to cut the cost so people buy the thing afterall.

    I predict that 2010 will see sony GIVE away PS3’s to all!…… ;)

  81. Happyhockum:

    Ivan/Roca

    Tell us where to buy one & how much this 2tb stick costs……then tell us how that fits in with a price-cut PS3.

    Muppet.

  82. SW:

    HH – 60MB/s is close enuff to 480mbps.

  83. Rimmer:

    “lamest comment ever”
    Aw, bless, Roca/Ivan has a go at irony.
    Now considering the 70% is taken off the initial estimate of the production cost at time of launch between $800-900 that would place the current production cost somewhere between $240-300. Considering that you have to add licensing costs to that (HDMI, Bluray, DVD etc), as well as shipping costs and a profit margin for the retailer, $299 is awfully optimistic. I suspect $349 is much more realistic.

  84. Ivan_PSP:

    Happyhockum:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_Stick
    Happy now scroll down and read the facts.

  85. Happyhockum:

    SW

    Excuse me?

    MB/s is Mbps.

    megabyte per second (MB/s or MBps)
    h**p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_rate_units

  86. SW:

    The second B is NOT capitalized in Ivan/roca (I can’t be bothered to look).

    Hence Megabits per second, not bytes.

    (480 mill / 8) / 1024 / 1024 = 57MB – ish

  87. Happyhockum:

    Ivan/Rova

    No, there are reports that Sony have finalised a 2tb stick with faster speeds
    (just like there are reports of USB flash drives and SD cards @ 2tb and 300Mbps speeds
    h**p://news.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/0,1000000091,39589099,00.htm )

    You gave the 2tb stick as some sort of evidence to support your claim on SSD in the next PS3.

    So I’m asking, where are these sticks and for how much?

    All you can do is point at a report of ‘coming sometime’.

    Fail, badly.

  88. Rimmer:

    Happy, The numbers refer to Megabit per second (Mbps) or Megabyte per second (MB/s). One is used as a data transfer measure, whereas the other usually refers to storage capacity. There are 8 bits to a byte, so 480Mbps is actually 60MB/s. Whoever thought this up needs their head examining.

  89. Happyhockum:

    Ooops, my bad SW. :o

  90. Roca.:

    ‘megabyte per second (MB/s or MBps)
    h**p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_rate_units’

    seems like google isnt working for you anymore!! lol

  91. SW:

    Where the heck did the sunglasses face in my post come from…..

    Bastard….

  92. Happyhockum:

    and Rimmer.

    He’s still holding up a product months from being available on retail.

    In fact it could be at least 1 or 2 years away from going retail – the SD Association road map – which includes Sanbdisk and Sony Erickson – said within 2yrs in fact.

  93. Happyhockum:

    Ivan/Roca

    I doubt you understood the distinction (lucked out on someone else explaining it so you didn’t have to).

    Tell us that funny one about how you reckon how “Optical cable is as good as there is for Audio output”.

  94. Happyhockum:

    :cool:

    would be the usual way SW

  95. Happyhockum:

    :eek:

    How the devil did that happen!? :confused:

  96. Happyhockum:

    :rolleyes:

    Obviously doesn’t work everytime. oh well.

  97. Kevo/Sir_Chubs_Alot08:

    wait happyhockum…u think an elite console right now was selling well?? do you see ppl demanding for a price drop? NO! ps3 is more on demand and when it does lower, it will have a new look in a slim making it even more appealing, so to say the elite will sell > a ps3 at the same price is just retarded

  98. Happyhockum:

    :mad:

  99. Happyhockum:

    Kevo/Sir_Chubs_Alot08

    You’d only be able to answer that if you hadthe sales data for each SKU, which neither you nor I have.

    I have read that the Arcade does not sell well and from this I’ expect the best selling model to be the current 60gb Pro.

    Selling the 120gb Elite at the 60gb Pro price is bound to improve sales.

    I know some of you guys don’t want to believe it but hard lines, they really did just give Sony a major boot in the danglies.

    You all just seem to be basing your expectations of what PS3 has in store on mere rumour and wishful thinking.

  100. Happyhockum:

    This one would be nice if it worked – :chainsaw:

  101. Happyhockum:

    Damn. :(

  102. Ivan_PSP:

    CFast cards are expected to reach market in late 2009. At CES 2009, Pretec showed a 32 GB CFast and announced that they should reach market within a few months.

    Yeah $300 PS3 like the one available now will outsell anything is too go to pass.

  103. Roca.:

    HAppy knows exactly what will happen when the price drop comes. you nailed again

  104. Ivan_PSP:

    Hell Yeah, he does some body is going for 3rd world base… A PS3 at $300 is as good as a second life LoL.

  105. Roca.:

    Happy go play some Xbox or something stop spamming the thread…whats wrong nothing to play lately? mayb its time to upgrade to a PS3 huh?

  106. Happyhockum:

    Ivan/Roca

    Nevermind your usual silly waffle.

    The short answer is that you were once again full of it & talking cr@p about PS3 slim having a 2tb SSD and/or memory stick.

  107. Happyhockum:

    Ivan/Roca

    Talking to yourself is a deeply pathetic sad sight.

    What $300 PS3?
    How many hoops and loans/credit cards/mobile phone deals do you have to take out to get one for that?

  108. phranctoast:

    That would make it a $150 PS3 ;)

  109. Ivan_PSP:

    Happyhockum:
    How many loans do you need to build a complete Xbox 360? You the sad loser that always comes with stupid stuff that obviously no one give’s a shit about.

  110. Roca.:

    its funny how you take time to write Ivan/Roca on every single post just to try to make a point.

    can I say sign of frustration?

  111. Ivan_PSP:

    Roca.:
    Yeah the dude has no life he is always bitter for some reason. I think he is like that because he gets no attention here. Obviously he is Xbox 360 fanboy he talks so much bad things about PS3 without even ever owning one he is a such a hypocrite. That’s why i laughed at all his post they are just way too lame and pathetic. He is here for my amusement only. I don’t mind what ever anyone here says about me words can’t hurt me. Plus we all know that PLAYSTATION 3 is the better console period.

  112. phranctoast:

    He wants to be happy/harry

    although CAD/CON is still my favorite.

  113. Ivan_PSP:

    phranctoast:
    LoL, good one.
    We PlayStation owner don’t step that low. We have more respect and we are smarter. We also have the best and strongest most reliable gaming console.

  114. lock_down:

    CADCON™

  115. Ivan_PSP:

    lock_down:
    Another good one LoL. Kee it them coming LoL.

    PLAYSTATION®3 4 LiFe

  116. JofaMang:

    I bought an SSD for my computer, and tested it out on the PS3 for a few days before formatting for OS/Game install duty in the gaming rig.

    It is so fucking impressive, I just ordered another one just for the PS3 (A 120gb to replace the 60gb in the computer, putting the 60 back into the PS3, heh). Load times on ALL games are cut by at least 50%, well higher on some. SFIV loads rounds in about 3sec, compared to the 10-15 installed I was experiencing with my 320gb 7200rpm drive.

    It is expensive, and I was going to wait until the prices dropped more to get a dedicated SSD for the PS3, but going back to the 320 felt like punishment, hah.

  117. Ivan_PSP:

    JofaMang:
    Cool. SSD rules.

  118. Happyhockum:

    My Elite cost me £135 new ($223 US/$266 AUS).

    No loans, no problem.

    I got the wireless adapter for £40 ($66 US/$78 AUS).

    I also got the plug & play kit for £9 ($16 /$19 AUS).

    Now what?

  119. Happyhockum:

    FFS phranc don’t encourage him.

  120. Roca.:

    woooow I forgot how many shit u need to get a 360 working properly

  121. Ivan_PSP:

    Roca.:
    You gotta built it like a PC with the over priced bad quality peripherals from the thief’s known as Microsoft the money wasting company.

    WiFi (Wireless Fidelity) $66
    HDD 60GB $100
    HDD 120GB $150
    Play & Charge Kit $20

    All that is free on PS3
    You still need watch movies from DVD on Xbox 360 while on PS3 we have Blu-ray Disc included we the system. Also we don’t need to own the PHOTO, MUSIC or VIDEO to added to the PS3 hard drive on Xbox 360 you do or at least have it burn on a disc. You are force to buy the 60GB or 120GB at a huge price.

    You need a loan after you buy it LMFAO.

  122. CAD:

    If you really think the 360 is a better deal, more power to you, but anyone without fanboy goggles could spot the better deal.

    Your PS3 is garbage so just accept it. How is the PS3 a better deal when it has a bunch of New Ip’s that will take forever to come out plus they are new so they’re not even proven. Your online is no where next to LIVE and that is considering that it’s free but then again so is LIVE you just have to pay to play online. Every service offered on PSN is a rip off of LIVE. You have on overpriced Bluray with a 360 inside, almost. The games on 360 are better, they look better and offer more. I don’t expect you to understand because until you have a 360 you will not know what your missing. The better deal is the 360 and were not asking for an arm or a leg.

  123. SW:

    Don’t make a post like that, and then throw around the word fanboy…

    I know you’re only reacting to Ivan/Roca/Anyone else, but two wrong don’t make a right!

  124. Rimmer:

    Roca / Ivan, I paid £129 for my 360 Pro 60gb, plus about £6 for a set of rechargable batteries. Add to that about £8 for a long ethernet cable and that is pretty much all my expenses. Total expenditure: £143. Why should I spend more than twice that on a games console that offers me the same gaming experience? If I want Bluray I will get a standalone machine that has bitstream output and a proper remote control. If I want to access photos or music I simply connect to an external USB hdd or stream them directly from my laptop. So no need to install a larger HDD.

  125. Ivan_PSP:

    Xbots are just too stupid.

  126. Barnabe Jones:

    lol @ CAD’s argument of “XBL cost money, so that means it’s better”. I never get tired of hearing that one.

  127. Ivan_PSP:

    CAD:
    I feel so sorry for him. CAD you last post make’s no sense since all that has happen and still happen SCEA has released a bunch great new IP and there’s way more coming Microsoft doesn’t even make games they just pay limited time DLC and they used to pay for exclsuives. Xbox 360 a nightmare to own…

  128. Ivan_PSP:

    Barnabe Jones:
    My last post not for CAD but for you, oops wrong name LoL. Xbox Live only has a party over PSN other then that it has nothing else. Plus the PSN doesn’t lag and is free while Xbox Live lags and has millions of cheaters.

  129. Ghost:

    You guys want to check out a pic of the new PS3 slim?
    http://themagicbox.com/0908/game090812a.
    shtml
    This is probably for sure what it will look like.

  130. harry sachz:

    holy crap! Fall asleep for 8 hours and this thread explodes!

    I really wish Ivan/roca had a mute button.

  131. Ivan_PSP:

    harry sachz:
    I wish you never talk or write for ever… Next time don’t sleep.

  132. Ghost:

    Your comment is awaiting moderation. hmmmmmmm…………….

  133. Ivan_PSP:

    Ghost:
    Don’t bother waiting Dave Parrack doesn’t moderate shit.

  134. SW:

    Too many smiley faces Ghost mebbe.

    You have a limt of, dum DUM DUMM!!!!!!!

    ONE…

  135. Barnabe Jones:

    Ghost – did you try and insert a web address? That will usually do it. Try copying and pasting the address without the W W W . in front of it.

  136. Ivan_PSP:

    Erased the (www.) news.google.com/news/search?pz=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=uncharted+2+among+thieves

  137. CON:

    Is it just me or is IVAN/ROCA turning in to more of an illiterate tit these days???

    Seriously his grasp of the english language is laughable.

    Now.

    Back to the console wars lol. I’m really hoping for price cuts all round. Def think ms should consider dropping the LIVE charge to at least half price, maybe more. As much as I love my 360 this is a major gripe for me. Maybe start a petition? Anybody?? The ps3rd owners always seem to be pretty outraged about this although I think that has more to do so with the fact that they can’t comprehend why the fuck their console is behind when their service is free.

  138. Happyhockum:

    It’s not just you CON.

    The funny bit is when he pretends that Xbox cost us all fortunes and we show otherwise.

    I didn’t even have to buy the network adapter, I chose to.

    I use powerplug-networking in my house, I could easily have used a cable, I just thought the adaptor was neater and it saved me having to bother swapping cables to the plug socket with the LG Blu-ray player’s network connection.

    XBL live, well free is always nice of course, but whilst I agree with you CON the truth is I honestly do believe what I say to the PS3 guys, it’s pennies a day and I don’t miss them or really care that much about it.

  139. Ivan_PSP:

    LMFAO Stop jealously hurts i know just buy a PS3 and it stop torturing your little brains.

  140. Barnabe Jones:

    “Blu-ray player’s network connection” – wait aren’t you allays complaining about how blu-ray is a failure?

  141. Ivan_PSP:

    Barnabe Jones:
    Xbots are too scared to even think right. LMFAO they too stupid to know even what quality is. PS3 is like 10 Xbox 360 combine to 1. Sony=Gaming.

  142. Happyhockum:

    Barnabe Jones

    I know this is an advanced concept for some of you guys but try to take off the fanboy blinkers and comprehend what is actually being said, not what you think is being said.

    It’s my view that Blu-ray will be a failure – in its original aim of replacing DVD.

    It’s my view that it offers the mass-market ‘benefits’ most will never truly enjoy – you only have to listen to that idiot Ivan/Roca talking about how
    “Optical cable is as good as there is for Audio output”
    and how he uses a VGA connection to play movies from a laptop.

    To genuinely ’see’ 1080p at normal viewing distances you need a very large HD TV.
    Most people are buying HD TVs in the 32″ – 50″ range.
    That’s simply not big enough.
    See this – h**p://carltonbale.com/2006/11/1080p-does-matter/

    You can’t deny your biology or the physics.

    Siumilarly with the new audio, most will never buy the high quality receiver nor the 5.1/7.1 speaker package so they will never hear the new audio standards.

    I can buy any of this stuff if it interests me.
    I have the TV and I have the audio kit.

    What I have never done is try and kid anyone to shovel a stack of money they can ill afford into a video format that is unlikely to last very long and which will offer them benefits they will not actually be able to get.

    Go ahead and ‘invest’ in the format if you like but remember it doesn’t stop at a Blu-ray player, you need the very big screen and the very expensive audio kit.

    The people who are really “too stupid” in this are the sort of blind and ignorant morons who imagine an optical cable is giving them the new lossless quality audio and that their small HD TV is showing them 1080p properly…….and who will then preach their ignorance to others as if they have a clue.

    (then, as we see here with Ivan/Roca, they project their own insecurity after being sussed out time after time. It’s pretty sad)

  143. Ivan_PSP:

    Happyhockum:
    Blah Blah Blah, another pathetic huge epic fail just shut the fuck up dude you a fucking JOKE. Blu-ray Disc is the future deal with it stop being such little bitch. PLAYSTATION 3 is the future of gaming Xbox 360 is basically dead. You an idiot rewriting old post loser. EPIC FAIL.

  144. Happyhockum:

    Ivan/Roca

    Why are you so interested?
    You didn’t ask me so why leap in to gurn and cry and wet your panties about it?

    “Optical cable is as good as there is for Audio output”

    LMAO

    Go on, tell us that other funny one about how a high-end receiver is just an HDMI splitter.

    Your preachy ignorant whinging is just hilarious.

  145. Ivan_PSP:

    Happyhockum:
    HDMI is not a splitter idiot. Guess since you own a Xbox 360 you wouldn’t know LMFAO only late unreliable model have it. You an idiot another epic fail from the Xbot homo…

  146. Ghost:

    Anyway since my post has not been moderated yet I will try this way. I asked if you guys want to see a pic of the new PS3 slim? It will probably look like this when it comes out?
    http://the-magicbox.com/0908/game090812a.shtml
    that’s the link if you want to check it out?

  147. Ghost:

    Damn it (lol) I tryed to put my link through another way since my last one has not been moderated yet. And of course what do I get another “Your comment is awaiting moderation”(lol) So I will try it like this, if you guy’s want to check out the new PS3 slim go to “PS3Vault.com” and read the first article and click on “The-MagicBox.com” link at the bottom of the article to see some pics of what it will probably look like. I don’t think I really like the design that much. What do u guy’s think?
    Like I said I tryed to put the link that goes directly to the pics but I guess you can’t do that here?

  148. harry sachz:

    Ivan,

    Something for you to ponder.

    You keep talking about wanting Dave or Mike to ban people from here. Not sure if you’ve noticed this, but you have to be the most disruptive person here who continually dribbles his inane nonsense without rest. The fact that you’re 22 years old and act like this is astounding. Even the PS3 boys think you’re an idiot, except for roca (you).

    If Dave or Mike are planning on banning someone, it’s going to be you.

    I am sure you’re going to respond to this by calling me a homosexual or that I am jealous of you, I am expecting such a response, however I really think you should take a step back and look at how you are behaving.

  149. Ivan_PSP:

    Ghost:
    I’m gonna fix that. And those PS3 designs are horrible from the link magicbox. All i want is the same PS3 at least %70 smaller with a 45nm CPU & GPU.

    Again in February 2008, IBM announced that it will begin to fabricate Cell processors with the 45 nm process.

  150. Ivan_PSP:

    harry sachz:
    Shut the fuck up FOOL LMFAO I’m the king and you a bitch mother fucker LoL. I’m never gonna be ban since Dave and Mike are real gamers they understand any shit i write LoL. Stop hating bitch if you can’t take the things i say leave.

    I don’t care how i behave is my damn life so live your own not mine.

  151. harry sachz:

    That’s the type of response I was expecting.

    Anyway, ignoring that idiot for a minute, NPD figures are in.

    Wii – 252, 200

    360 – 202,900

    PS3 – 121,800.

    81,000 unit difference between PS3 and 360 in just one month! This slim unit couldn’t come fast enough, hopefully it comes along with a slim price too.

  152. Ivan_PSP:

    harry sachz:
    Good for you enjoy them happy now. LMFAO you a such joker. Glad you were expecting my respond.

  153. Barnabe Jones:

    Ghost – I think that magazine used mock ups. They’re not official (at least I hope not). I would bet that the slim will look like that grainy video that was leaked a few weeks ago… it matches the photos that were leaked from the factory also.

    .youtube.com/watch?v=q6CCOTz327s

  154. Barnabe Jones:

    Harry – that’s US. When you take the rest of the world into account, and the fact that the numbers skew the other direction in Asia, it’s not that bad at all. Plus supposedly they let stock dry up completely in the UK (lock_Down?).

  155. Ivan_PSP:

    Barnabe Jones:
    I already know how is gonna look. Just like the PS3 model that they selling now just %70 or maybe more smaller. Common sense just look at the previous slim models for the PSP PS1 PS2. Sony always satisfied the fans with slim models. Well with the exception of the PSP Go which looks like garbage. I hate the look of it i might still buy it.

  156. Zoar:

    Ivan_PSP: Thanks Ivan!

    I’m thinking of buying it for the PC because of PhysX:
    youtube.com/watch?v=vINH6Z9kqgI

  157. Ivan_PSP:

    Zoar:
    Your welcome… And Batman: Arkham Asylum looks great, the PS3 has the best version because we getting the JOKER not harry sachz LoL. I suggest a Alienware PC from Dell they have the most affordable and best PC for gaming…

  158. harry sachz:

    Barnabe,

    Yeah I know that’s the US, which is the largest country in terms of gaming. However the only numbers we get from Asia are Japan, who would outsell the 360 by around 6-8000 units, hardly a dent in the lead. The rest of Asia don’t really have much of a presence.

    By what I read, the UK has the 360 outselling the PS3, and the remainder of Europe is pretty much neck-a-neck.

  159. Ivan_PSP:

    Only if we cared. No more Microsoft Word LoL ban LoL. Enjoy your own statics. Currently checking SonyStyle.

    g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/697694/Halo-Reach-Will-Be-Bungies-Last-Halo-Game-For-The-Xbox-360.html

    psxextreme.com/ps2-news/4737.html

    edepot.com/playstation3.html#Super_Secrets

  160. SW:

    And again, freaking DS still doing over half a million units…. Insanity…

  161. Ivan_PSP:

    SW:
    Yup that crap (DS) actually is doing good i still can believe it is amazing how many people like that piece of crap just like the Wii. I hope/wish Microsoft reinvents the Xbox 360 from scratch with Blu-ray and no more fat battery for the controller. Also a better menu similar to the one on PS3. And i would love having PC hard drive compatible and hopefully built-in WiFi at no extra cost. This wish also applies to Wii and DSi. For PS3 i wish we had Windows instead of Linux LoL i know is never going to happen i can dream. Sony and Microsoft should create a single gaming console while still creating a new Xbox and PlayStation i know is dumb but i can dream. Blah Blah Blah cya later cooking.

  162. Ghost:

    Barnabe Jones:
    Yeah man I hope you are right, I thought they kinda looked pretty funky myself.(lol) and Ivan_PSP isn’t there alot more stuff inside the PS3 then there was in ps1-ps2, I mean do you really think they can make it as slim as the PS2?
    @Ivan_PSP:
    I thought Alien-Ware was a solid gaming computer untill they merged with Dell. Don’t get me wrong Dell knows how to put plastic together and they know how to do it fast, it’s just trying to get support or help from somebody over there is like pulling teeth. I was looking at Falcon Northwest gaming computers and just from there web-site they look like they have there shit together, plus they are built right here in North America, But they are expensive. I don’t own one so I really don’t know but I was thinking about getting one. Are they better???

  163. Ivan_PSP:

    Ghost:
    I think they can make 3 times fatter then the PS2 Slim in order to keep the Blu-ray drive, power brick, HDD, motor and other stuff..

    You can always buy VAIO a VAIO you need a lot of money to buy a good gaming VAIO but it will be worth it. I like Dell more then HP all HP are bloated with crap.

  164. Ghost:

    Ivan_PSP:
    I don’t know but I think “Falcon Northwest” is better than VAIO for a gaming computer? I think FNW is pretty much top of the line. Like I said earlier I don’t own one so I personally can’t say for sure, but from what I heard and looked up FNW is pretty solid.

  165. Ivan_PSP:

    Ghost:
    This is my PC from late 2008 i also upgraded more. It cost almost $4000 because i customize but i checked the Falcon PC couldn’t find prices.

    sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665507557#specifications

  166. Spideydog:

    Wow, I’ve been away for a while and nothing has changed at all. The same fanboys at each other’s throats.

    ENJOY YOUR SYSTEMS FELLAS. They aren’t going anywhere and are selling just fine.

  167. Happyhockum:

    PS2 almost outsells PS3….wow.

    Coming into it’s 4th year.

    Just wow.

  168. Rimmer:

    Happy, don’t rise to Ivan / Roco’s pathetic coaxing, you are better than that. Take it for the comedy element that it really is. The more outrageous he gets, the more people ignore him anyway.
    One thing about Bluray that cracks me up is how they are advertising it as having the latest, highest quality HD sound quality (which it does) and show a family sitting around their TV enjoying this HD sound coming from nothing more than the TV speakers. Talk about pearls before swine. That is precisely why Bluray is not doing well. Joe Average just couldn’t care if it has lossless HD audio and crystal clear images, he /she simply don’t have the equipment & inclination to make use of it.

  169. Happyhockum:

    Rimmer

    Exactly.
    The number of kids sitting listening to a cheapo supposedly HD receiver and their cheap cr@ppy speakers who thing they are hearing lossless audio cos a little light came on and the sound got a little bit louder is hilarious.

    Actually Ivan/Roca gave the game away without realising it earlier when he talked about an HD receiver just being an HDMI splitter.
    The cheap sh*t he buys probably does only manage to pass-through with no bitstreaming & decoding.

    Let’s face it, when you’re listening to standard Dolby Digital 5.1 or DTS 5.1 you’re probably ahead of most people anyways.

    People usually watch movies for the movie, not spotting pretty irrelevant additional detail……and that is why you are 100% correct, most just aren’t that ar$ed about HD.

    They do like a flat panel TV, for its looks (which wis why the awful early ones sold at all) …..but even there most, according to the last US numbers out, are buying 32″ – 42″ sets that are 720p/1080I res.

  170. Rimmer:

    I remember my dad going out and buying a new flatscreen for their living room. I remember him insisting on it being 1080p because he read that it was the best. So he buys a 1080p 42″ LCD and then mounts it on the far wall of the livingroom, about 25 feet away from the seating area. Duh. Now he can’t read the onscreen menu from the sofa because the text is so small. These are the sort of people Bluray needs to convince.
    On a different note, is it just me, or has the number of DVD releases with DTS sound plummeted since Bluray / HDDVD came out? Me smells a conspiracy rat. No where is my tinfoil hat?

  171. ncaissie:

    Ivan
    You know nothing about Gaming PC’s. And if you ever owned one you would know.
    You are totally backwards. I have had many Alienware Laptops and a buddy of mine has the Desktop. Alienware is total garbage. I also have a few HP laptops and the $3000 HP played Farcry and Doom 3 WAY better then the $5000 Alienware laptops. The company I worked for purchased 12 Alienware laptops and 8 Died within warranty and then again just out of warranty (one year) And Alienware took forever to repair them. I still have 3 at my place. I’m thinking about seeing if I can find someone local to repair them. My buddy tried but they couldn’t find parts for the one model.

    So HP beats Alienware hands down for product and service!

    The desktop is still going but I don’t know how well it plays games because I didn’t get to try it. It’s huge and looks cool though.

  172. ncaissie:

    @Ivan
    That is no gaming PC. My $1500 PC has better specs then that. Mine didn’t come with a monitor though.

  173. ncaissie:

    The videocard is just above average.

    NVIDIA® GeForce® 9600M GT GPU

    http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_m_series.html

  174. phranctoast:

    idk rimmer. Not many of my DVDs have DTS sound.

    ncaissie.
    isn’t alienware dell now?

  175. Happyhockum:

    ncaissie

    Come on now, you don’t seriously think Ivan/Roca did anything other than link to what he imagined was an impressive PC in the Sony catalogue do you?

    It’s really no surprise that this is something else PS3 console boy knows little or nothing about.

  176. phranctoast:

    CAD wrote.
    Your PS3 is garbage so just accept it. How is the PS3 a better deal when it has a bunch of New Ip’s that will take forever to come out plus they are new so they’re not even proven. Your online is no where next to LIVE and that is considering that it’s free but then again so is LIVE you just have to pay to play online. Every service offered on PSN is a rip off of LIVE. You have on overpriced Bluray with a 360 inside, almost. The games on 360 are better, they look better and offer more. I don’t expect you to understand because until you have a 360 you will not know what your missing. The better deal is the 360 and were not asking for an arm or a leg.

    -garbage compared to the super awesome 360 hardware?

    -Theres nothing wrong with new IP’s In fact 360 has been doing well with new IP’s as well. They also have that little problem of getting them out the door. See Alan Wake and Huxley.

    -Live sucks. You know you rather have in be free. Pay to play online, and with no First party IP’s getting dedicated servers.

    -Xbots cry about blu ray and how to ps3 is not a game machine while at the same time holding their tongue as the 360 get a HDDVD addon and Multimedia abilities similar.

    -The games offered are the same and at least theres first party games to look forward to. How great will it be for 360 users when the only difference between the 360 and the ps3 are that ps3 gets more games and 360 can only manage to get DLC for games that are on both.

  177. Happyhockum:

    phranctoast

    I’ve never “cried” about the PS3 having Blu-ray…..it was for me one of the few originally attractive things about PS3.
    Now it merely helps explain a part of the reason how come it’s doing so badly.

    Sony trying to sew up the next DVD was always something to be very wary of and indeed they have managed to f*ck it up completely and now HD movies on disc are guaranteed to fail to take over from DVD.

    This is nothing like quite the same thing as my 1st point.

    You’ve also managed to miss out the fact that when both systems offer much the same games the Xbox does it for far less money and (despite not having the benefit all that imagined ‘power’) the Xbox version of games usually turn out to be the better ones.

    Multi-media is attractive to me and all that media hub stuff used to be held up as a PS3 strong-point.
    I find it amusing and interesting how it’s Xbox now being bashed for that.
    Perhaps it’s because PS3 has nothing over Xbox to offer there?

  178. Ghost:

    @HH:
    “perhaps it’s because PS3 has nothing over Xbox to offer there?”

    The PS3 is a better made machine since it’s launch. So that’s one Hell of a diff right there?

  179. ncaissie:

    @CAD: “How is the PS3 a better deal when it has a bunch of New Ip’s that will take forever to come out plus they are new so they’re not even proven.”

    LOL Where would we be without trying new things? Sitting around a fire wondering how it got there!

  180. Roca.:

    phranctoast you nailed it

  181. phranctoast:

    when I said Xbot and didn’t necessarily mean you Happy. lol… Ok ok..maybe a little bit.

    The post was directed at Cad.

    I’m not bashing the 360 for multimedia abilities…. Just bashing the hypocrisy of users when not even given the ps3 the title of game machine because of its added features.
    Quite frankly….more is better.

    Every now and then the poor ps3 users have to put up with knowing that a certain multiconsole release looks slightly better on the 360. Most of the time the only way to tell the difference is with freeze frame gametrailers comparisons. At the same time theres those great first parties to look forward to and they at least seem to get it.

  182. Happyhockum:

    Ghost

    Go on then, in what practical tangible way?

    Show me anything meaningful cos I am at a loss as to see anything that adds up to a hill of beans to me.

    Card readers? Phhhfff. I have 1 multi reader in my PC & and another 20 – 1 multi reader inc obscure stuff as a seperate.

    Blu-ray.
    I have a much better high definition player thanks.

    Wireless?
    I have wioreless and I could have easily used cable thanks to my powerplug networking at home.

    Games?
    They look and sound identical, usually.
    Occasionally 1 PS3 release is done better than Xbox and vice-versa.
    The range for Xbox is now so huge I could care less about Sony’s 1st party releases.
    Honestly.
    I really don’t care, Xbox already has more good games than I will ever buy.

    So what?
    Go ahead, tell me.

  183. Ivan_PSP:

    Xbox 360 is like a upgrade Xbox 1 LMFAO pure crap PS2 has better games. Xbots shut the fuck up already and Alienware is awesome. I didn’t pay just in case you ask. Xbox 360 has nothing on PS3 period. We got more and better must have exclsuives that would never be on PC and none of them are timed exclusives. We get all Xbox 360 exclusive what it had left and all their crappy DLC that they paid to have first stupid i know. Also we save more then them because we don’t need to buy a fucking charger or wifi or a bigger hard drive. We don’t need to send our console for repair every 2 months. All our PS3 had Blu-ray and a HDMI with a free online service that kicks serious ass. 5.1 7.1 and 8.1 Surround Sound.

    My Alien specs:
    Some stuff like the fan and graphic card i ask for help NVIDIA according to them i have a awesome cooling system LoL i hope. $1600
    12 Gigs Ram
    3.2 GHZ
    1 Terabyte
    Plus 512 SDD
    Blu-ray reader/burner
    Built-in Blutooth
    Windows Vista Ultimate
    Microsoft Office Enterprise 2007 (Free)
    Compact Flash, Memory Stick, SD & Mini, XD support.
    2 Built-in Fans
    2 HDMI input like the PS3
    HD TV tuner
    5.1 and 7.1 Surround Sound (Can’t use it too loud)
    Black and Blue

    Game manufactures LMFAO i love free games Xbox, Xbox 2, PS1, PS2, PSP, Dreamcast and PS3. I’m able to ripg games for those console the PS3 won’t load duh LoL. PC is free well games.

  184. Ivan_PSP:

    I meant have not had oops

  185. Happyhockum:

    Ivan/Roca

    Just back from googling, eh?

  186. ncaissie:

    LOL Microsoft Office Enterprise 2007 (Free)?

    Do you know what Enterprise version is? They are for volume licensing. They don’t come free with Home PC’s. PC’s get OEM copies not Enterprise copies.
    From MS: “Available only through Microsoft Volume Licensing (5 or more copies)”
    You are proving yourself to be a liar. LOL

    You are funny. Alienware is CRAP plain and simple. Oh, I did get a nice T-shirt from them though! LOL

  187. ncaissie:

    Also show us the link to where you get Office with Alienware PCs.

  188. Happyhockum:

    Still waiting Ghost.

    If you can come up with a decent fist of this I’ll give it a fair hearing but in all seriousness I don’t think you can.

  189. phranctoast:

    psssst ghost….

    say hardware reliability, blu ray, and first party games that are not only exclusive to the console but exclusive overall.

  190. phranctoast:

    Happy is great today. He’s giving and receiving in a full circle.

    Hey MIKE.

    Lets get a story about Halo ODST and how MS are fleecing their fanbase by only offering a new gametype and a short sp mode, with only three new maps (All the mp maps are from Halo 3 and the bonus packs) for the price of a new game.

    In all fairness, if you are new to Halo this really makes sense for you to buy. If not, like the overwhelming majority of Xbox brand users you are simply bending over and screaming “Thank you sir….may i have another”

  191. Happyhockum:

    I’ve yet to go into Halo.
    I have Wars & 3.

    3 online is said to be great but I’m still COD4′ing. ;)

  192. Ivan_PSP:

    ncaissie:
    Here you go
    megaupload.com/?d=ZRC48ZM6

    enjoy it.

  193. Knighthawk:

    “2 HDMI input like the PS3″

    @Ivan

    That was a typo correct? Hope it was, otherwise you are a total moron(naw, you’re an idiot). First, the PS3 has an HDMI output not an input. Second, the PS3 only has one HDMI output not 2! Wow for someone who blows Sony all day long, you don’t even know the hardware or the terms for them.

    Simply put, you are a total moron. You don’t know shit, but you like to spew alot of it! I can’t see you being 22, most people are above your level at 10! Dude seriously, it’s not even funny anymore, kinda feel sorry for you!

  194. kev:

    i don’t think they need a price cut. the ps3 and the 360 are already both at $299, according to Mike Ferro…..

  195. Ivan_PSP:

    Duh is 1

  196. Ivan_PSP:

    Knighthawk:
    You make laughed you a total JOKE.

  197. Happyhockum:

    Your English typing is a joke, schizo boy.

    I thought you said you were off?

  198. JofaMang:

    Can we, for just one fucking day, not feed Ivan? Seriously: Happy, CAD/CON, Kev, Harry (ok, maybe not Harry, his shit is too funny to hold back) but the rest of you just fucking ignore him. He responds when you respond. He doesn’t read what you write, he just spouts random sony fanbot crap everytime he sees his name in someone elses posts.

    Seriously, Lets pick a day and stick with it. If it goes well, we can extend the ban on trollfeeding perhaps one day at a time, like quitting the booze or crack.

  199. Ivan_PSP:

    lol

  200. ncaissie:

    I bet Ivan has Sony.com for his home page and salivates on his keyboard as he surfs the site every day.

  201. Ivan_PSP:

    ncaissie:
    Google is my homepage on all my PC and electronic gadgets with web browsing. Everyone see’s me as the Co-founder and CEO of PlayStation talk here LMFAO. I take in a lot of pride owning a PlayStation. I’m a member of the Gamer Advisory Panel (GAP)

  202. kev:

    jofa – if you notice, i don’t really respond to Ivan…. he keeps responding to himself (Roca) and others, but i have learned: Never argue with an idiot. He’ll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. :)

    HEY!!! WHAT’S WRONG WITH CRACK!????!!!!!…. i kid, i kid… :)

  203. SW:

    I’m with Jofa on this one.

  204. Happyhockum:

    JofaMang

    Check the other ‘power’ thread.

    It’s too late, the f*cking moron has just sent a distress call to his fellow fanboy kiddies to come and try to wreck the site with their infantile circle-jerking over the PS3.

  205. Ivan_PSP:

    The award for dumb mess stupidest most hypocrite lowlife loser fan-bot Xbot goes to the homo Happyhockum lmfao xbox can’t stop crying because ps3 has games n they well they only know halo n gears of crap………….

  206. Happyhockum:

    Yeah, pathetic as always.

    Incapable of stringing an intelligible sentence together the resident village idiot resorts to his usual projection and laughable & idiotic claims.

    It must be rubbish being you, schizo buy.

  207. Ghost:

    @HH:
    Man do you really need me to explain why or how the PS3 is a better made machine.

  208. harry sachz:

    Can we make it a week?

  209. phranctoast:

    If you make it that long you’ll all be bored.

  210. Happyhockum:

    Ghost

    I’ve explained what I already have and why and as far as my Xbox goes I’ve also posted how much it cost.

    If you can honestly show me a decent reason why I should buy PSD3 then feel free.

    I don’t think you can other than to give me your opinion.

    “Better made”?
    Nasaa, sorry, that won’t fly either.
    There’s a little potential ticking time-bomb under the PS3 that has the possibility of making the early Xboxs’ RROD look like a virtue.

    The early Blue lasers had a very finite life-span.

    Those who make a lot of use of their PS3 as both a game player and disc video player may well come to regret their choices.

    We know ‘the yellow light of death’ is no myth now.
    I suspect the 2 are not unconnected.

    I have a late Falcon Xbox which has never so much as frozen up on me.
    So tales that mine is built badly and the PS3 is built so much better just do not wash with me.
    Sorry but they don’t.

  211. SW:

    The earlier 360’s were indeed badly built. Newer ones not so. My falcon is running without a hiccup.

  212. CON:

    IVAN how the fuck have you not been deported you immigrant FUCK

    LEARN HOW TO SPEAK ENGLISH

  213. SW:

  214. Happyhockum:

    We’ll all see in Germany on Tues whether the slim is happening.

    There are some pics (which could be photoshopped) showing 80gb PS3 at $299 and the new 160gb at $399.

    The press also ran stories recently of how stocks of the 80gb model were being run down.

    Will this just be a limited stock clearance of the dead 80gb or a true new price point for the slim – and how does that sit with the $399 160gb model?

  215. Ghost:

    @HH:
    Well all will say is look at this link?(lol) And did you say in a earlier post that regular DVD’s can’t be played on a PS3?

    ps3vault.com/how-to-kill-a-ps3-console-1975

    So yeah I still stand behind what I said PS3 are better made.

  216. Spideydog:

    HH said: “There’s a little potential ticking time-bomb under the PS3 that has the possibility of making the early Xboxs’ RROD look like a virtue.”

    So you are claiming something before it “apparently is going to happen”

    Thats desperation m8.

  217. Ghost:

    HH is just pissed because his gaming system can’t guide a nuclear warhead from his living room like mine can. (lol)

  218. Happyhockum:

    Nope, it’s a known fact, actually.

    Naturally Spideydog laps in with his usual bile, spite and instinctive anti-social BS to have a go but it’s sad to see Ghost taking the cue and heading down that Ivan/Roca road.

    In 2007 (after the PS3 release) the University of California-Santa Barbara published this

    h**p://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=197001536

    All over the net you’ll find comment about dead lasers and how to replace them.

    Just like theyellow light of death has quickly punctured that aire of total reliability PS3 owners once claimed.

    I’ll even give you guys a hand for when you need the bits – the laser lens is part No. KES-400A and the full unit is part number KEM-400AAA.

  219. Happyhockum:

    Ghost:
    “did you say in a earlier post that regular DVD’s can’t be played on a PS3?”

    No.

  220. Happyhockum:

    BTW if or when the Blu-ray diode does die on your PS3 Sony will charge you for it
    (I’ve seen pi$$ed off owners talking about charges £90/£150 US/$170 AUS quoted).

  221. Happyhockum:

    Still, we all know there’ll be no debate on this.

    Just like with the PS 1 & PS2 problems it’ll be denied and denied until it becomes so big and so obvious that it can no longer be denied.
    Which of course will make it so much worse than if it had been admitted earlier.

    We just have to wait until then.

  222. Ghost:

    HH:
    Man I was just joking with you lighten up, I put the link up to be funny, you know ha ha? And if my laser dies or anything else, believe me I will be own here and pissed off about it. (i want denie anything) I am not that kind of person. In fact “knock on wood” if anything happends to my PS3 Sony is going to get on

  223. Ghost:

    Sorry I was cut-off by my Enter button. Anyway Sony is going to get a piece of my mind day after fucking day untill they fix the problem. And anyway I hope your wrong? I hope my Ps3 isn’t just wating to break down because hell it’s so advanced, when it dies a couple of jet liners might drop from the sky? You know because it helps to guide airplanes in the sky when it’s not helping me to achieve a platinum on Res 5. (lol)

  224. Happyhockum:

    Ghost

    Sorry if I missed the gag.
    NP

    All I am saying is that there are numerous reports of laser failures on PS3.
    The yellow light of death is real, not a Microsoft nor an Xbox owner’s invention.

    If you look you will see numerous items oin the web about replacing dead PS3 laser diodes.
    I am not making this stuff up.

    I hope yours doesn’t go t*ts up on you, that would be a cr@ppy thing, I am simply saying it is a possibility if you work the laser hard using it a lot for games and movies, they really do have a very finite life-span.

  225. Spideydog:

    HH said: “Naturally Spideydog laps in with his usual bile, spite and instinctive anti-social BS to have a go but it’s sad to see Ghost taking the cue and heading down that Ivan/Roca road.

    In 2007 (after the PS3 release) the University of California-Santa Barbara published this

    h**p://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=197001536

    All over the net you’ll find comment about dead lasers and how to replace them.

    Just like theyellow light of death has quickly punctured that aire of total reliability PS3 owners once claimed.

    I’ll even give you guys a hand for when you need the bits – the laser lens is part No. KES-400A and the full unit is part number KEM-400AAA.”

    Grow up fanboy. Your making up bullshit, that hasn’t even occurred and your claiming it’s fact. DESPERATE microsoft fanboyism, and after making ridiculous claims like that, you come here and call other people bile, antisocial, spite, blah, blah, blah simply because it doesn’t line up with your fictitious claims.

    If it was sooooo widespread as you claim, we all would know about it, just like RROD, but the simple fact is, it isn’t. Accept it

  226. Roca.:

    **SILENCED**

  227. Happyhockum:

    Awwww look.

    Spideydog’s trying to get a row going with his village idiot sidekick.

    Bad luck son. Try elsewhere.

    Anger management might be an idea for you, hiding behind that passive aggressive BS isn’t fooling anyone.

  228. Spideydog:

    HH said: “Awwww look.
    Spideydog’s trying to get a row going with his village idiot sidekick.
    Bad luck son. Try elsewhere.
    Anger management might be an idea for you, hiding behind that passive aggressive BS isn’t fooling anyone.”

    You are still biting HH, so I don’t need to go elsewhere. You just don’t like when someone actually calls you out for the “Hate” mantra you spew.

    Anger management …. Passive aggressive ….. Bah hahahahahaha, this comes from Mr RAGE himself. Hypocrite and STILL using “I’m not, you are” school boy comebacks.

    Now please reply with just how much you apparently don’t care.

  229. Happyhockum:

    Oh, and again.

    My very own saddo leg-humping stalker.

    Too boring & far too obvious to be much fun tho.

  230. Spideydog:

    Obvious again ….. your new catch cry? Is this your only “original” comeback you can come up with?? Obviously!!

  231. Happyhockum:

    There you go again. Such devotion.

    Love the thought that you’re so deluded that you think this is about ‘material’.

    Isn’t there an amatuer dramatics society in your village for you to be wowing ‘everyone’ with?

  232. Spideydog:

    Mmmmm Hmmmm. THAT, is the best you have?

  233. SW:

    Speaking of price cutting…..

    I read that MS is pulling a Nintendo and raising the Arcade SKU price in the UK (as well as removing the bunbled XBLA games)…

    Suppose they’ll blame Euro…

  234. Happyhockum:

    SW

    I’d wait until this thing arrives before we see what price it goes for (and ignore any rumours of what anyone else is doing until it happens too).

    The Yen is crippling Japanese business and last I saw a £50 drop was being floated for the UK.

    The £ has been doing better against the $ US so that pressure shouldn’t be so much.

  235. Spideydog:

    Thats never stopped you preempting before HH ….. Oh thats right, this is about xbox. No one is allowed to do that unless it is sony eh !!

  236. Spideydog:

    After all you are preempting the failure of blue laser diodes !!!

  237. Ghost:

    @HH:
    Well SW heard right and his reason was right to. So I guess what he heard was true huh?

  238. Happyhockum:

    Ghost

    I’ve seen tales about Microsoft lifting the price of the Arcade……whilst at the same time cutting the price of the Elite to the level of the old 60gb Pro model.

    We’ll see soon enough.

    Spideydog
    “Boo hoo hoo, gurn, cry whinge and on and on and on”.

    Pathetic, as always.

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