PS3 enhanced 720p God of War this holiday – to sell like hotcakes

September 2, 2009

PS3 enhanced 720p God of War this holiday – to sell like hotcakesTwo of the most iconic PS2 games is set to hit the PS3 in a new and remastered way. Sony recently unveiled yesterday that God of War Collections will be released this holiday 2009, which will be completely PS3 enhanced from trophies to graphics. This will definitely be a hot holiday item for gamers.

Two of my all time favorite PS2 games, God of War and God of War II will be hitting the PS3 this holiday season. It was a bit disappointing when Sony revealed that God of War III was pushed back to Q1 of 2010. However, Sony quickly made up for it by listening to the fans and deciding to release a truly PS3 enhanced version of the first two God of War games for the PS3.

God of War Collections, which contains the two previous iterations of the game, will be coming out on a single Blu-ray disc around holiday time. God of War and God of War II will be completely remastered with anti-aliasing graphics (AA), running at 60 frames per second and for the first time ever will be 720p native. Also to top things off, God of War Collections will also have trophy support.

The studio handling the port of the God of War games will be done by Bluepoint Games. Interestingly enough this small third party studio is headed by the former Lead Engineer for Metriod Prime, Andy O’Neil. How is that for setting expectations?

I thoroughly enjoyed the remastered hi-res PSN version of Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection. During its release two years ago, it was considered to be the best looking fighter game out on the market. This was despite the fact it was a PSP port remastered to run at 60fps at 1080p. I hope to see many more remastered classics becoming available in next gen form.

God of War Collections will retail for $39.99, which incidentally costs exactly the same as if you were to buy both games for the PS2 from the Greatest Hits category. For those thinking about picking up the PS2 version just to collect or revisit the game can instead now pick up the God of War Collection for exactly the same price. The fact that many PS3 owners have been asking for this for quite some time pretty much cements the fact that this game will definitely go platinum this holiday season.

*Update:

Correction – Sony never gave an official release date so technically it was never delayed.



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101 Responses to “PS3 enhanced 720p God of War this holiday – to sell like hotcakes”

  1. SW:

    See, now this is a game/compilation they should release on the PSN. I really can’t be bothered to have another disc laying around.

  2. lock_down:

    If this sells well, then 3rd parties are gonna do exactly the same; just re-release their PS2 games with upscaled resolution with a better frame rate.

    Which tbh seems like a win for both publishers and gamers. Publsihers makes money selling their classic games, and gamers get a better experience.

    People are already asking for ICO and Shadow of the Colossus to be remastered, as well as Devil May Cry1/2/3 and MGS2/3. This could the substitute for the lack of PS2 B/C.

  3. Roca.:

    @ Mike

    “It was a bit disappointing when Sony revealed that God of War III was pushed back to Q1 of 2010.”

    Sony never said the game was coming this year, and the game never really had an official released date. looking at the history of GoW, you will notice that all 3 God of War games (including the PSP version) were released in “March”. so March 2010 sounds good

  4. Ivan_PSP:

    Roca.:
    Agree that’s so true what you wrote.

    I wish they had included the PSP version of God of War too and sell it for $60 the collection. I will be buying this i hope is a good port. This truly amazing to have.

    lock_down:
    I hope 3rd party publishers do that like God of War. It will help the damn PS3 whole lot more and will also make the Xbox 360 Game On Demand jealous the service.

    SW:
    Why waste memory if your hard drive dies so does everything else. I know you can re-download the game but still that’s stupid. The file will be huge too. I always prefer disc that’s why i got Warhawk, Burnout Paradise in Blu-ray Disc and i had SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs Confrontation on Blu-ray Disc too.

    I wish to have GTA Trilogy Collection like God of War.

    Also this news is a little late it was cover like 3 days ago.

    I know this is gonna be a new trend for publishers created by Sony. Another innovation by Sony.

  5. Mike Ferro:

    @Roca,

    Yup your correct.
    For some reason I thought the back cover of my Chains of Olympus stated GOW III PS3 2009, but it states “Coming Soon.”

    I think I assumed “Coming Soon” back in March of 2008 as sometime in 2009.

  6. Ivan_PSP:

    Chronological order

    * God of War: Chains of Olympus
    * God of War
    * God of War: Betrayal
    * God of War II
    * God of War III

  7. Kevo/Sir_Chubs_Alot08:

    @ lockdown
    i %100 agree with you dude. if sony could bring back some ps2 games and store multiple games on a single blu ray disc,trophy support,720p,60fps,etc that would be smart not to mention $$ in the pocket…i hope this is a success and a new trend to follow by sony…they should also put trophies in ps1 classics,just a thought

  8. Ivan_PSP:

    Kevo/Sir_Chubs_Alot08:
    It will be too hard to add trophy support for PS1 games. And if God of War Collection does really good you will definitely see this trend going for ever. We all know this games are gonna sell really good. And 720p with 60fps is awesome. Oh my god i just had imagine if they make SOCOM 1 2 & 3 for $60 this will sell huge.

  9. Andrew_DS:

    God of War Collections. What a waste of money for the people who want to actually collect something. This sort of packaging and cashing in really gets on my nerves.

    Its done a lot with DVDs. You buy the Saw Boxset with Saw 1, 2, 3 and 4 in it and then they damn well go and bring out Saw 5.

    This will be the same with GOW. Next Xmas there will be another GOW boxset with all 3 in it. Ching ching, and the pubs cash in again.

    I appreciate that they are upscaling the graphics etc… and possibly adding content but why couldn’t they just wait till GOW 3 was out and do a special collectors bundle for that.

  10. Ivan_PSP:

    Andrew_DS:
    It might not fit and no one is gonna be paying $100 for a game. I know is 3 games but people don’t understand that is bad marketing business. Also they are asking for the same price as the PS2 edition so why complain. Also they adding trophy a big plus. And no i highly i guaranteed they womn’t be another package like this at least not God Of War unless Sony makes a new Blu-ray Disc.

    This the best deal ever a must buy.

    TROLL

  11. phranctoast:

    @Andrew.

    Its spurs interest in the series again right before the next one comes out.

    I planned on playing both again before playing 3. Now I know exactly what I’ll be playing.

  12. Spideydog:

    “I think I assumed “Coming Soon” back in March of 2008 as sometime in 2009.”

    Any reasonable person would think that too …..

  13. Ivan_PSP:

    Stop assuming and wait for real released date.
    Sony’s doing a great job with God of War.

  14. Spideydog:

    That wouldn’t be any fun now would it ;)

  15. Ghost:

    Hell yeah I am glad that they are briging this game series to the ps3. But I also thought that maybe they would release GOW3 in a big box set with 1-2 part of it? I mean they are still going to have a collectors box set and yes Ivan prob somewhere around a bill for, now I just don’t know what’s going to be in it.

  16. phranctoast:

    It would make a lot of sense for them to do this with ICO and SOTC before the Last Guardian comes out, but I don’t really think that will happen.

    Sony sent out a questioneer to gauge interest in a remake. As far as I know nothing similar has happened with the other two games.

  17. Ghost:

    yeah and one of the questions on it was “did people want GOW 1-2 remasterd and included in the box set with GOW 3″ they also asked if we wanted T-shirts or a toy figure of Kratos. Plus there was something about an art book.

  18. Ivan_PSP:

    All three would’ve been a problem because the cost would had been too high $100 most people will say is too high. Even thought that’s an awesome price. This package is a sweet deal. This is gonna sell HUGE.

  19. Roca.:

    @ phanctoast

    “It would make a lot of sense for them to do this with ICO and SOTC before the Last Guardian comes out, but I don’t really think that will happen.”

    since the GoW survey was given a couple months ago, that means that the engine that they are using is pretty good and can remaster PS2 quick and without any trouble.

    I expect more Sony IPs to get remaster and take advantage of the engine and also give something for those you wants BC and for those who never got to play those old PS2

  20. Ghost:

    Well Ivan they probably will have a box collection set for people who want to pay that much for everything. And then they will have just the game for everybody else. I want the box set since I really enjoy the GOW series and have since the first one. I just hope they don’t pull a activision with this?

  21. Ghost:

    so is what carlb: said really true, if I try to get online that I will have to DL 3.0? Does it not give you a choice?

  22. Ivan_PSP:

    Roca.:
    “since the GoW survey was given a couple months ago, that means that the engine that they are using is pretty good and can remaster PS2 quick and without any trouble.”

    That engine was definitely built a couple year ago i bet. Anyways is not that the engine can remaster PS2 games quick is that old they had to do was just make a port that the entire game everything was already done. Sony had this idea in mind for long time i bet. And yes i expect more PS2 games coming like this but maybe from 3rd publisher and Sony some day.

  23. Ivan_PSP:

    Ghost:
    Is better for them the way is now just $40. When people see high prices they just think is a ripoff since most gamers are cheap. All firmware on PS3 are mandatory with the exception of one that was released already.

    What Activision?

    Roca.:
    Everyone in the world has a PS2 already. 140 Million sold

  24. kev:

    Oh yes… Mike is right… I “heard” from “colleagues” this game will outsell every other game on the market this holiday. It has things never before seen in a game. I “heard” it will have over 3 million characters on screen at once, each with their own AI, and High Dynamic Range lighting.

    I even “heard” that people are already lining up with their tents and camping gear in front of retailers just to get a glimpse of this game.

    I also “heard” from “colleagues” the storyline was written by Oscar winning screenwriters. The musical score is “heard” to be written by John Williams and played by the London Symphony Orchestra.

    Oh, did I mention this game will sell a billion copies? This game, I “heard” from “colleagues” will outsell Halo:ODST by 999 million copies. Oh man……this is gonna sell 100 million ps3s, too, from what I’ve “heard” from “colleagues”.

    I also “heard” this game supports over 5,000 gamers on one match on PSN and that sony loves us so much they’re giving us over 100 downloadable maps for FREE.

    I also “heard” it can ONLY be developed on the ps3, since it’s is the only console with one-point-twenty one jigawatts of powah, the “cell”, dilythium crystals, and a flux capacitor.

    Omg..omg..omg….not only will this sell like “hotcakes”, it will be a game our grandkids will be talking about….….

    I would ask why he doesn’t post any sales predictions for other console franchises, but the author already stated he doesn’t care about sales….oh wait….

  25. Ivan_PSP:

    kev:
    SHUT THE FUCK UP DUDE You such a TROLL.

  26. Roca.:

    Kev go back to your cage!!

  27. phranctoast:

    lol@kev.

    Where does it say anything about what Mike “heard”?

    anyway kev.

    How’d you like GOW1 and 2?

  28. Ghost:

    You know “activision” jacking up the price of MW/2 because they know people like it. I just hope they don’t follow there example for GOW3 that’s all. I might be wrong Ivan but I thought it always gave me a choice to DL the other firmware updates?(oh-well). kev is just mad because we get a kick-ass game like GoW and he gets stuck with a bad case of Halo STD’s.

  29. Roca.:

    @ Ghost, I’m pretty sure the update is mandatory.

  30. phranctoast:

    @ghost
    Isn’t Activision only doing that for the PC version? As far as I can tell it’s still 59.99 for the PS3/360 ver.

    And speaking of companies trying to screw with the fanbase like M$ is doing with Halo ODST, They are not the worse culprit.

    Lucas arts is re-releasing The force Unleashed as the Ulimate Sith Edition with a new level in there that will not be available as DLC. It also comes with the two overpriced ($10) SP missions that did appear as DLC. All this for the price of a new game.

    There are two more culprits but they are not nearly as bad and for good reason.

    Bethesda for Fallout 3 game of the year and Sony with Little Big Planet Game of the year also appearing at full game price.

    Bethesda can’t really be blamed as the extra content will appear as DLC anyway so you don’t have to rebuy game. You can just buy the DLC.

    Media Molecule has extra stuff on the disc, but it can all be found for free online. The only benefit is modnation racers beta. Stick with the cheaper version and get the DLC for free.

  31. Ghost:

    Hell I have force unleashed, and I heard something about them(lucas arts) doing that. I also read somewhere that there is a new mission and you can’t get it unless you rebuy the new version of the game? I am not talking about the new DL content either. If that is true then thats pretty messed up.

  32. kev:

    Aw, don’t be like that….i’m just telling you what I “heard” from “colleagues”….

    Roca/Ivan uses what she “hears” as proof as to what the ps3 and its games are capable of. Yet none of the ps3 fanboys call her a “troll”….

    Mike Ferro uses what he “hears from colleagues” as proof of the ps3’s future success, yet none of the ps3 fanboys call him a “troll”… interesting…

    On the bright side…. 100 million ps3’s sold due to this game means there will be 100 million PSN gamers online to choose from. WOW!!!!

    I doubt anyone will even remember what Halo or COD is after GOW is launched. Mmmmm…hotcakes…

    Big fan of John Williams so I’m really, really excited….

    Phranc – I can’t address the Mike Ferro thing too much.. (but he’s used his “colleagues” as proof in the past)

    Talking about his Highness will get you banned.

  33. Akaro:

    As always, I will make a comment so balanced that will be diffilcult to retort but won´t contribute much to the discussion:

    Hotcakes are (most of the time) delicious and well liked by the mayority of people.

    There! Today´s toll is achieved. *Proud*

  34. SW:

    Can I get some hotcakes over here!

  35. Roca.:

    we where have a decent conversation/debate until Ninja Boy showed up

  36. Royzy:

    “See, now this is a game/compilation they should release on the PSN. I really can’t be bothered to have another disc laying around.”

    Yeh that would be so horrible. I’m calling in TROLL on SW. Troll troll troll >>> SW

    I think this will be great, 2 games I missed at the time, and trophies.

    I’m still tempted to pick up Arkham Asylum too. Maybe at the weekend.

  37. oldschool1987:

    Kev and Andrew_DS(double shit)=

    Trolls

  38. SW:

    @Royzy – You’re just jealous of the hot cakes I have over here!

    But I’m serious, my gf doesn’t like my games all over the place so they’re in a cupboard with DVD’s etc. And its a pain in the ass to keep swapping them out as we use the PS3 for playing DVD’s too so it usually has a Fraiser DVD loaded or something.

    Still, I *may* pick it up… Not too sure tho, my PS2 controller didn’t do too well with GoW 1/2 and the sixaxis doesn’t have a wire ;)

  39. phranctoast:

    “Still, I *may* pick it up… Not too sure tho, my PS2 controller didn’t do too well with GoW 1/2 and the sixaxis doesn’t have a wire”

    lol
    The Pillar of Death in Hades. Damn those game makers… Damn them straight to hell.

  40. Roca.:

    hehe,

    many ppl missed GoW2 because it was release after the PS3 came out.

  41. phranctoast:

    @Roca
    “we where have a decent conversation/debate until Ninja Boy showed up”

    I tried to get kev in on the discussion, but he seems more interested in Mike……..

    “How’d you like GOW1 and 2?”

  42. Roca.:

    I got so mad after I found out that Square Enix got his own section in the Japanese PS store with ALL their PS1 games available for purchase. and when I say “ALL” I literary mean it.
    you can find there games like Saga Frontier, Musashi, Xenosaga, Parasite Eve, Vagrant Story and more. the only ones missing were FF8 and FF9. it’ll be great if we get a Square Enix space in the US store

  43. phranctoast:

    ign has a nice interview with the developers.

  44. Happyhockum:

    Guys, I want to ask a question and i’m not trying to be provokative or wind anyone up on this.

    I’ve sat seeing the comments come in on this over the course of the day and I’ve stayed away cos I don’t really know the game and not having a PS3 I don’t have a lot of interest.

    I’ve seen GOW2 on my pals PS2 recently.
    I know he liked it and thought it was a good game.

    But.

    There’s a significant % here talking & raving about a reheat of this as if it was ‘game of the year’.

    I just don’t get it.

    It looks like most if not all of you have played this one to death already so why the big deal?
    They’re going to re-res it & do a mild reheat for PS3.

    I get the idea that fans of the game are looking forward to the new GOW3……

    ….. but a retread of 1 & 2?
    For $40?!

  45. phranctoast:

    It cost the same amount as GOW and GOW2 do right now.

    I never owned the first, but rented it and bought the second.

    The game is worth owning and it represents the best the ps2 had to offer at the end of its lifetime.

    Since it seems like everyone has a ps2, you should give it a rent Happy.

    Only the harshest of cynics and those going into the game drinking hatorade will fit otherwise.

    I know its hard to understand, but pick your two favorite Xbox games and would you find yourself repurchasing them if they came out all spruced up for your 360.

  46. kev:

    phranc – “I know its hard to understand, but pick your two favorite Xbox games and would you find yourself repurchasing them if they came out all spruced up for your 360.”

    we don’t have to worry about this as the 360 has backwards compatiblity that the ps3 doesn’t have… :)

  47. Roca.:

    the game just never gets old Happy, you really need to play this game! Kratos is the best and the baddest video game character ever created.

    GoW1 was GOTY and GoW2 was PS2 GOTY and Action GOTY (Overall GOTY went to Bioshock in 2007)

    the way the incorporated Greek mythology into the game is way beyond anybody’s imagination. The combat system is second to none, and no matter hoy many times you play it the combat will never get old. Just Imagine a guy serving the gods for years so the can free him from his nightmare (of all the bad he has done during his life) and once he found out the gods were just using game and failed you honor their promised he is going for blood and all out to kill every single god and destroy olympus to fulfill his revenge…and that is just a small piece of the whole story.

  48. kev:

    royzy – rent it first. can be beat in one night.

  49. Roca.:

    hey CARLB

    check this out: h**p://www.psu.com/Uncharted-problems-reported-since-PS3-firmware-300-News–a008051-p0.php

  50. Akaro:

    I think the Metroid Prime Trilogy pack is a good example. I already have them all so I won´t buy it . But it is a fantastic deal for anyone who has missed them.

    I am curious about the first GoW, it will be the one that receives the most upgrading.

  51. SW:

    Yeah but you at least get ‘new play control’ (see : money spinner rehash) in MP1 & 2.

  52. Roca.:

    Nintendo has been doing the same, releasing gamecube game with motion for $40, for just one crappy game.

  53. Barnabe Jones:

    Believe it or not… I’ve only played through the first one. I ended up missing out on the sequel. Loved the first one though, so I will be picking this up before 3 is released.

    Isn’t GOW based off of the story of Hercules? They both murdered there own family, they’re both super strong, and have to go through a bunch of trials before they atone for there sins…

  54. Royzy:

    haha SW, were you the type to leave the discs out of the cases, upside down with coffee-rings stained on them. That was the image you just gave me.

    I think I’d like the disc purely to save the HDD space that I really don’t have right now. I should probably should get a bigger drive.

    Kev, that might be worth me doing actually, I’m thinking of upgrading my LoveFilm package to include games. No return-deadlines either.

  55. Akaro:

    You mean:

    $50 for 3 “”"crappy”"” games with motion. =P

  56. Royzy:

    Isn’t the main chap in GOW a mortal though, made cool by Gods? And Hercules the son of Zeus, made mortal by them?

    I can’t say I know my GOW, or my greek mythology…

  57. Barnabe Jones:

    I only played the 1st GOW, and my Greek is a little rusty, but I think there are a lot of similarities between the two.

    btw… I can’t stand the type to leave the discs upside down (or worse, face down) out of the cases. It drives me nuts. I have a friend that does that.. I can’t help but to put the discs back in the case and on the shelf when I’m there.

  58. Royzy:

    I hate it more when that same type of person manages to put some of their games/cds/dvds back, but puts them in the wrong cases.

    SW, is this you. Please tell us it isn’t.

  59. SW:

    Nah, I put them back in the correct cases!

    I’m just a big fan of not messin’ with discs.

  60. Ivan_PSP:

    zoknowsgaming.com/2009/09/02/scene-it-is-finally-coming-to-ps3/

    pcworld.com/article/171303/xbox_360_least_reliable_console.html

  61. Kevo/Sir_Chubs_Alot08:

    dito for me as well not playing the 2nd one…

  62. harry sachz:

    Yep Barnabe, could not agree with you more. The amount of times i’ve seen my $80 360 games sitting on top of the dvd player because the other half was too lazy to put it back is one of my pet hates.

  63. Spideydog:

    Same here ….. Thats why my disc’s are scratch free and like new years later :)

  64. Roca.:

    God of War Collection releases on Nov 10th (same day as CoD: MW2)….seems like Sony isnt afraid of Activion or CoD

  65. kev:

    ivan – that link from pc world has the 360′s failure rate at 21%…. what happened to the 33% you ps3 fanboys were swearing by?

    oh, it’s also interesting that they also show the ps3′s failure rate at 10%… just a little less than half of the 360′s yet still failing…

    i could have swore you guys said the ps3 was problem free…. oh well…

  66. Roca.:

    Kev, just drop it…no matter how you put, or what you say, nothing will change that the 360 is the most unrealiable console in gaming history. PERIOD!

  67. SW:

    Aww c;mon now! Lets all be friends and eat hotcakes together!

  68. phranctoast:

    @kev
    yep and game informer had the 360 failure rate at 50%. Hardware failure is a topic you should strive to avoid.

    So…still never let me know how you liked GOW1&2.

  69. Roca.:

    Hotcakes…. lol

    SW, you funny… you barely talk and when you do you say some random suff that is not related to gaming.

    @ Kev so yeah what do you think about GoW?

  70. SW:

    I beg to differ. Hot cakes was in the post title was it not?

  71. Roca.:

    yeah but you know what he meant. but there’s nothing wrong with a lil sarcasm though.

  72. Happyhockum:

    Roca
    “no matter how you put, or what you say, nothing will change that the 360 is the most unrealiable console in gaming history. PERIOD!”

    No longer.

    SquareTrade the insurance/warranty people have just released their data.

    The Jasper Xbox has a fail-rate of under 1%.

    Interestingly the PS3 (fat, the slim hasn’t been out long enough to show anything) has a fail-rate of 10%.

    Whilst I agree that the early Xbox fail-rate was high (unacceptably so) it’s perfectly clear that it is now fixed and the 3yr warranty is a nice bonus.

    (and I don’t call 1 in 10 that great either……maybe pushing Sony for a similar 3yr warranty wouldn’t be such a bad idea afterall?)

    “SquareTrade, an independent provider of warranties on electronics, estimates that 2.7% of Wiis fail during the first two years of ownership, compared with a 10% failure rate over that period for Sony’s PlayStation 3 and a 23.7% failure rate for Microsoft’s Xbox 360.”

    However…….

    “Since Microsoft introduced a new chip in the Xbox 360 last year, SquareTrade said complaints about the red ring of death problem have begun to abate. On over 500 Xbox 360s purchased by SquareTrade customers in 2009, fewer than 1% reported a red ring of death problem as of August, according to SquareTrade.”

    blogs.wsj.com/digits/2009/09/01/game-fail-study-wii-most-reliable-but-xbox-problems-abate/

    Link to SquareTrade report PDF
    w.squaretrade.com/htm/pdf/SquareTrade_Xbox360_PS3_Wii_Reliability_0809.pdf

  73. Roca.:

    Happy,

    it might at 1% for the jasper but the 360 it is still the most unrealiable console based on the overall numbers..

    and I noticed those are just based on 500 units during an 8-month period . if you probably take the first 500 PS3s over its first 8 months you probably going to end up with 0% defect ratio.

    and of course the Wii is the most reliable console, as it was reported not too long ago that the Wii get the least amount of use by gamers.. I think it was an hour and some change daily use for the Wii. the less you use it the less chances for it to get a system failure. do you agree?

  74. Happyhockum:

    Roca

    We knopw Falcon was better too.

    Besides you can’t buy anything buit a Jasper now, so why keep trying to make a big deal about ancient history?

    “Probably” nothing.
    You’re playing little guessing games with yourself.

    It’s an insurance company’s data.
    As JofaMang pointed out on the other thread when we were discussing this an insurance company lives and dies by the accuracy of their risk assessment.

    You might note that SquareTrade now charges exactly the same premium for cover for an Xbox and a PS3.

    I know it’s a disappointment to some of you guys but the fact is that jibe has now lost it’s bite.

    Xbox is a safe to buy as anything out there as fas as its reliability goes.

  75. Roca.:

    I just noticed something else too.. the 1% its just based on RRoD, which leaves the E74, not reading disc and scratching disc numbers up in the air.

    and also since SquareTrade do warranties on electronic product you can say that the PS3 failure rate is not accurate because Sony has come out with so many Sku/version of the PS3 that most customers might say their system is not working just to get the lastest version. I know ppl that have done that to switch thier 40GB PS3 to an 80GB. Personally I have done the same with my PSP, I have a 3000 right now, but I switched my original for a 2000 and then switched my 2000 for a 3000 while they were still under the retail’s $30 warranty.

  76. Happyhockum:

    Oh dear, typo fest or what?

  77. Roca.:

    Happy:

    “an insurance company lives and dies by the accuracy of their risk assessment. Xbox is a safe to buy as anything out there as fas as its reliability goes.”

    understand what your are trying to prove. but to go as far as to call a “500 units reasearch”
    accuracy…come on! you know better than that.

    and like I a couple of weeks ago, my friend’s elite (jasper) died, and he barely play games. but he was still under M$’s warranty

  78. Roca.:

    dude I am at work and I dont have time to re-read what I wrote. Im not trying to argue with you (as we were all doing fine for the last few days) but that’s just the way I see it. if the “500 unit reasearch” is good enough for you then fine! but you have to understand other ppl may have different opinions

  79. Happyhockum:

    Let’s put it like this.

    Jasper came out in Dec 2008.
    The 1st year is almost up.
    SquareTrade aren’t going away and they have no axe to grind on anybody’s behalf.

    The next round of numbers will see the continuation of Jaspers reliability or not.

    I’m betting it does.

    Just as PS3 slim will see PS3′s reliability improve.
    The smaller, lower energy consuming & cooler running hardware guarantees it.

    However you want to look at it this data sure as hell beats a mere survey and it’s unverifiable and completely unscientific 50%+ nonsense.

  80. Roca.:

    how does a data of a warranty company is more reliable than a survey, both of their numbers can be undesputed. lets your xbox under warranty with “whatever” company. after you warranty runs out and if you system died, that is one system they counting for the research…right? that sound very accurate right?

    but hey like I said, that is just me! lets leave it at that.

  81. phranctoast:

    I just don’t know why someone would get a warranty from a third party when MS provides a 3 year.

  82. Mike Ferro:

    You guys know what makes picking up GOW Collections better than buying a PS2 Greatest Hits, besides the fact its fully remastered?

    It will retain its value longer.

    Typically Greatest Hits value less then the original version despite the fact they are exactly the same game.

    If you jump on Ebay people selling games will clearly specify that the game is not a Greatest Hits.

    Just sharing an interesting tid-bit.

  83. Happyhockum:

    Roca
    “how does a data of a warranty company is more reliable than a survey”

    You have to be kidding.

    You really imagine a completely unverifiable mere survey anyone can say anything in without any checking is equivalent to the stats that come from a reputable insurance comapny’s paid for warranty!?

    “both of their numbers can be undesputed.”

    Why would SquareTrade lie, publicly?
    That makes no sense and could only damage their reputation and their stock-values.
    It is unlikely in the extreme.

    Self-selecting respondants to a survey who are never going to have to prove a thing they have claimed is true are a completely different matter and nothing like similar, nevermind the same.

    “lets your xbox under warranty with “whatever” company. after you warranty runs out and if you system died, that is one system they counting for the research…right? that sound very accurate right?”

    I have no idea what you mean here. Sorry.

    The way this works is obvious.
    Look at the PDF, it shows you.

    Over 16,000 owners took out their warranty.
    That is statistically a nice and large sample.

    It’s not just about RRoD for Xbox either (and when RRoD is excluded the fail-rate drops to a more nornal 11.7%) they do split the failures and show other problems that can occur (although none are especially common, even E74 is a problem effecting less than 1% of Xboxes regardless of age.

    BTW the data talks about “over 500 Jasper units” being included in the report.

    phranctoast:

    “I just don’t know why someone would get a warranty from a third party when MS provides a 3 year.”

    Surely the answer is obvious?
    It’s often pointed out here enough, no?
    The Microsoft warranty ‘only’ covers RRoD and E74.

    Those wishing to have more than the minimum warranty are left with little choice if they believe the rumours and must purchase a 3rd party plan.

  84. Roca.:

    “Why would SquareTrade lie, publicly?”

    I never said the lied, did you read what i said?

  85. Happyhockum:

    Well if you look at what you wrote & then what I said you’d see that I couldn’t make out part of what you’d said.
    It’s a clear as mud.

    I just don’t understand how come you think there’s equal reliability, value or worth between the info an insurance company will release and a mere survey (with no verification of the claims made by the respondants whatsoever) done by a magazine or website.

  86. Roca.:

    because like I said to you, People often lie about a product being defective just so they can get a new one. ( If only you know how many times I have gotten an new Laptop because be abusing my warranty)

    and also there could be cases (when the warranty runs out) that will never get reported. all I said was that thier numbers can be “undesputed”. but it’s cool every head is a whole different world

  87. Happyhockum:

    Roca

    When you’re dealing with sample sizes in the several thousands the fringe handful of dodgy claims become pretty meaningless when looking at the overall picture.

    Insurance companies are not stupid, they know a small % will be iffy claims.

    You just can’t write the whole report off because you reckon a handful of the cases might not be completely honest.

    Besides for the relative reliability between each console that % of iffy claims is more than likely to be much the same.
    Unless you reckon Wii owners are less likely to claim for some reason than PS3 or Xbox owners?

  88. Spideydog:

    Roca said: “If only you know how many times I have gotten an new Laptop because be abusing my warranty”

    So you are one of those who have helped make it harder for those with legitimate warranty claims to get their product replaced !!!!! Thanks to you, selfish asshole #$^*% !!

  89. Roca.:

    @ Spideydog

    LMAOO………..come on, you are paying for it, you have to get your money’s worth somehow right?

    it sounded like you had a bad warranty experience. but why blame it on me, im just “one” person you know!

  90. phranctoast:

    Who doesn’t plan on getting the God of War Collectors addition?

  91. Roca.:

    I already pre-ordered it

  92. SW:

    ‘you have to get your money’s worth somehow right?’

    Tisk.

  93. kev:

    Happy – don’t waste your time. Don’t you know? roca, spidey, phranc, lock down and the other non-360 owners know waaaaaay more about the 360 than all of us 360 owners put together.

    they’re just that smart…

  94. phranctoast:

    kev continues to avoid the question.

    I gotta figure you played the games as you owned three ps2′s.

  95. Spideydog:

    Kev said: “Happy – don’t waste your time. Don’t you know? roca, spidey, phranc, lock down and the other non-360 owners know waaaaaay more about the 360 than all of us 360 owners put together.

    they’re just that smart…”

    Shooting from the hip again Kev ….. it is a well known fact here that I own and enjoy a 360 Pro.

    You have again shot yourself in the foot and must wipe egg of your face. Even the xbox fellas here can back me in owning a 360.

    If your gonna have a crack at me, at least make sure it is factually correct, idiot.

  96. Roca.:

    I owned a 360 but i seem to know more about the system than most of you guys..errrm Kev are you still waiting for MGS4 (360 version).

  97. harry sachz:

    Yeah, and you also work at Statestreet.

  98. Happyhockum:

    Roca

    “i seem to know more about the system than most of you guys”

    That’s a pretty big claim…..especially in view of your comments here.

    Are you trying to hide this?

    (you’re incrediby successful at it so far if you are)

  99. Roca.:

    @ Harry

    “Yeah, and you also work at Statestreet”

    I have no problem sending you an email from my state street email account (M$ exchange/ outlook). just give me ur email address if you are so worried about my job and will prove you wrong and then maybe we can get back to the gaming talk and stop worrying about ppl’s job. (I also used to work at the M$ tech center, do you want me to prove that also)

    it (my job) is also posted on my facebook page, I dont need to lie about my job. sooo until you prove me wrong why dont you stop trying to dig some info about me, I dont like to be harassed by stranger in a gaming forums (no wonder u got banned in HOME).

  100. phranctoast:

    noticed that this title was selling well on Amazon.

    Its pre-orders are doing well in comparison to the new games its up against.

  101. kev:

    spidey – the only “well known” fact about you is that you hate ms, the 360 and 360 gamers.

    your opinions are full of lies, misinformation and conjecture.

    you’re the last one that should asking for facts….

    you haven’t used one yet…

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