Pachter: PS3 Netflix circumvents Xbox 360 exclusivity deal
Netflix and Sony recently revealed a new partnership. Considering Microsoft’s belief that the company has some sort of exclusivity with Netflix, this news was a bit confusing. The great Michael Pachter believes that the Netflix disc for the PS3 is to circumvent the deal with Microsoft.
Yesterday, I wrote a story about the announcement regarding Netflix service for the PS3. One interesting tidbit out of the story was the fact that users would have to initially use a blu-ray disc when wanting to stream movies or TV shows. I theorized that this was probably done intentionally by Netflix and Sony to circumvent whatever exclusivity deal the movie rental service has with Microsoft.
According to GI.biz, Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter is also theorizing the exact same thing. In a newly released investor note from the analyst, Pachter indicated that the disc is probably a method to circumvent whatever deal Microsoft has with Netflix. He theorizes that the exclusivity probably has something to do with how the application appears on the dashboard and accesses the service over IP.
Pachter claims that since the PS3 is an open platform with an Internet browser built in, the solution being proposed by Netflix with Sony would not violate the agreement with Microsoft.
Actually, now that I think about it, the fact that Sony clearly stated that the service is using Blu-ray’s BD-Live technology to access Netflix content seems like its meant more for Microsoft to read than for the consumer. One thing is for sure, Microsoft knows how to write those exclusivity contracts.
Other companies such as Tecmo, decided to re-build Ninja Gaiden II as Ninja Gaiden Sigma II from the ground up in order to get out of first party publisher contract with Microsoft. The big question on my mind is why sign a contract if you will regret it down the road? I suppose the answer to that question is pretty simple.
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October 28th, 2009
Foist.
October 28th, 2009
Don’t be a fucking “First” loser, no matter what accent you are phonetically ripping off from.
As for the story, good for Netflix, get more business, screw MS. Exclusivity is like renting a game, in the end, you might get an experience out of it, but your money leaves you with nothing substantial. Build (or buy) a first party studio, invest in them with money and support, and in the end, you might make some money, but you will for-sure build more knowledge and experience into your corporation. Those investments pay off in the long run (Hello Sony 1st party exclusives) and provide a deeper game base over time. 1st parties have big money behind them, they can afford to take their time to make things RIGHT, and not just rush everything to market.
Buy exclusivity contracts and you only get value as long as it lasts, or as long as it takes for them to figure out the loopholes. Get what you deserve.
October 28th, 2009
Yes, most consumers would rather not wait a year or longer to play a game or utilize a service like Netflix. Whether they provide nothing more than that service a year later for the same fee is yet to be seen. Next month.
October 28th, 2009
Nothing really is ever exclusive to Xbox 360 only everything eventually ends up on PS3 better. Microsoft just tries to make look like it is. Gears of War and Mass Effect are two Xbox 360 franchises that will end up on PS3 updated like Ninja Gaiden1 and 2, Bioshock, Tales of Vesperia Star Ocean and many more. In the end Sony wins because they get the product with out having to buy timed exclusive contract.
October 28th, 2009
So Mike are you implying that those extra features you get on disk that download or streaming services don’t have will happen through Sony’s Netflix deal because it’s using BD Live? Let me remind you about HDi It was before BD Live and it’s because of HDi why BD Live even exsist. It’s a shame that the new features for HDi were never exposed at CES the year HD DVD went down.
October 28th, 2009
“Let me remind you about HDi It was before BD Live and it’s because of HDi why BD Live even exsist. It’s a shame that the new features for HDi were never exposed at CES the year HD DVD went down.”
Sorry bro.. Just not true.
HDi is a lot more simple on a programming level than BD-J was. They were both in development the same time. One was just finished before the other.
BD-J was one of the reasons MS went with HDDVD and not blu ray. MS obviously wanted a cut but the blu ray group went with Java instead which was a big MS rival.
October 28th, 2009
I don’t know why this story even exists. An update to the last one wouldn’t work?
I read Pachters views a day before the Netflix story appeared with Mike speculating the cause even though most of us had an idea as to what Pachter was talking about.
A little late on this one.
October 28th, 2009
still want that MAG beta Phranc?
I wonder whats CAD trolling about? I dont think HDi was used for netflix. so why bring a obsolete service up?
October 28th, 2009
CAD, Why bring up HD DVD. The shit is dead, leave it there. It was obviously crap.
And Mike
“One thing is for sure, Microsoft knows how to write those exclusivity contracts.”
If that were true they wouldn’t be getting screwed time and time again on the exclusive deals. LOL
October 28th, 2009
Sure do roca.
October 28th, 2009
you have blorge.net account
October 28th, 2009
Java is a disaster.
That’s why BD Live is so appallingly bad – and why even a huge chunk of the Blu-ray users have absolutely zero interest in it.
Clunky & slow and already described as dead by no less than Steve Jobs 2 years ago.
It was in fact Sony & theor BDA proxies who turned their back on the DVD Forum (which they had previously all been members of – and still are) and insisted on using Java and a video format of their own in their doomed attempt to corner the video market and create a 2nd cash-cow in the same way as DVD had once been.
Too bad they failed – as heavily shrinking margins (those cut price and 2 for 1 deals screw with the bottom line so badly) and poor sales illustrate only too clearly.
October 28th, 2009
sounds like *hate*
but seriously the hate is getting pathetic
October 28th, 2009
I do Roca, but your better off just sending it through psn. I’ll be on tonight for a little bit before the World Series…
October 28th, 2009
LOL @ Happy.
Everything is some crazy conspiracy with Sony as the lead bad guy.
It really is wonder you can ever support MS with their horrible track record.
October 28th, 2009
“and why even a huge chunk of the Blu-ray users have absolutely zero interest in it.”
Probably because a huge chunk of any movie watchers hardly have interest in extras at all. The New star wars movies and the Lord of the Rings were the only extras I bothered to watch. Most people are similar when it comes to extras.
October 28th, 2009
“and why even a huge chunk of the Blu-ray users have absolutely zero interest in it.”
you talk like we pay for it. I bet there is a huge chunk of Gold members who dont care for all the other “Gold” features besides “online play”
October 28th, 2009
Phranctoast
Development at the same time? Well that I’m not sure of but what I do know is that from day one every HD DVD player was equipped with a ethernet port and every HD DVD Movie used HDi and that was since March 2006 and BD-J did not launch until March 2007.
“CAD, Why bring up HD DVD. The shit is dead, leave it there. It was obviously crap.”
That is where your wrong. Anyone who look at both formats would know that HD DVD was the better product at the time when compared to bluray. Bluray was playing catch up and then Sony paid for the win. What makes it hilarious is that even when bluray won it still was not at HD DVD standards and all those features that existed on HD DVD did not exsist on bluray until March 2007 when the war ended in January 2007 but yet bluray was choosen as the winner. The air just smells of foul play doesn’t it? They did not even make it mandatory for a ethernet port until December of 2007. They spent so much money securing Bluray as a format that the Playstation suffered in game development for it which is why your only getting games this year.
“I wonder whats CAD trolling about? I dont think HDi was used for netflix. so why bring a obsolete service up?”
Roca
Lets get this straight. The troll job belongs to you.
So why bring up a obslete service? Because Mike implyed that:
“Actually, now that I think about it, the fact that Sony clearly stated that the service is using Blu-ray’s BD-Live technology to access Netflix content seems like its meant more for Microsoft to read than for the consumer”
I think Mike is saying that BD Live features will come to Netflix and if that is the case then Just realize that Microsft still has HDi in it’s back pocket and I’m sure that if needed they will implement it on the 360 if needed. Just because HD DVD is dead does not mean that HDi is dead. Because one thing is for sure digital movies don’t come with the content/features that physical disk have.
October 28th, 2009
Oh and Phranctoast
I did know that Microsort and Java where enemies. I think That is the reason why Microsft went with HD DVD over Bluray because Microsft wanted to use HDi on Bluray and Sony wanted Java so Microsoft gave them the finger and went to Toshiba.
October 28th, 2009
Just because I know someone will ask
BLUray prior to the war had no:
Ethernet port
No extra content that could be downloaded
no interactive menu
no in movie menu
no mini games
Longer to load
no firmware updates
October 28th, 2009
I also forgot to mention:
Dual Format Disk
Picture in Picture
October 28th, 2009
CAD:
“I think Mike is saying that BD Live features will come to Netflix and if that is the case then Just realize that Microsft still has HDi in it’s back pocket and I’m sure that if needed they will implement it on the 360 if needed. Just because HD DVD is dead does not mean that HDi is dead. Because one thing is for sure digital movies don’t come with the content/features that physical disk have.”
soo do you really think MS will bring the HD-DVD add on?? lol nice for MS to have a dead service in their back pocket.
CAD:
“I did know that Microsort and Java where enemies. I think That is the reason why Microsft went with HD DVD over Bluray because Microsft wanted to use HDi on Bluray and Sony wanted Java so Microsoft gave them the finger and went to Toshiba”
I believed it was the other way around. Sony gave the finger to MS by not letting them use BD. in fact untill this day Sony is giving MS the finger and the 360 is still BDless
October 28th, 2009
HD-DVD prior to lunch:
Support from Sony Pictures
Support from FOX
Support from Lions Gate
Support from MGM
Dreamworks
then more joined BD and HD DVD had no”
Support from WB
Support from Disney
Support from Universal
and “after” the war was over, HD-DVD didnt even had:
support from Toshiba (the maker)
support from MS (a big supporter since day 1)
so will you rather have more movies or no movies but a few features more
October 28th, 2009
Oh Roca it is obvious that your trying to have a conversation about a topic you know nothing of. Lets leave this to Phranctoast, Happy and myself. Go educate yourself on the topic because your looking stupid. I say Microsoft still has HDi in their back pocket and you think I’m Talking about a HD DVD add on. LOL
October 28th, 2009
@CAD
Doesn’t change the fact that it is CURRENTLY a dead format. Didn’t make the cut, regardless of the reasons/conspiracies you think lead to it’s demise. Its fucking dead.
The group behind HD-DVD was not fit enough to survive. It’s over. Capiche. Your HD-DVD collection is not going to grow beyond 2007 titles. It’s dead.
If you want we could talk about how the chevette was a rip off of the European econoboxes that stormed NA during and after the fuel crisis of the 70s, but that car is dead, too. So why bother?
Lovers of art and technology should not get political, cynical or conspiratorial. The media it is delivered on shouldn’t be a talking point. Sure Toshiba got a 10b contract to produce Cell BE chips a week after they announced taking HD-DVD out back to the wood shed, and sure the PS3 may have been a trojan horse for BD, but who really cares anymore? BD is alive, HD-DVD is not. I was a fan of BD before I knew about BD-Live, purely for the raw storage capacity. Does that mean I should degrade my opinion of the media because it grew in its scope only after doing battle with competition? Are you not a fan of the free market at all? I mean, I respect Idealist Marxist tenets, but not at a high enough regard to build a hate for competition. Holding a grudge over items like this is juvenile and fanboistic.
October 28th, 2009
“Oh Roca it is obvious that your trying to have a conversation about a topic you know nothing of. Lets leave this to Phranctoast, Happy and myself. Go educate yourself on the topic because your looking stupid. I say Microsoft still has HDi in their back pocket and you think I’m Talking about a HD DVD add on. LOL”
you didnt get the joke…but let me put it more clear for your retarded ass..HDi is just as dead as the HD-DVD add on
October 28th, 2009
Jofa:
“Does that mean I should degrade my opinion of the media because it grew in its scope only after doing battle with competition? Are you not a fan of the free market at all? I mean, I respect Idealist Marxist tenets, but not at a high enough regard to build a hate for competition. Holding a grudge over items like this is juvenile and fanboistic.”
I hope CAD undertand this and stop his argument about something thats been dead for a while now. maybe you should draw something with colors so he can understand it better
October 28th, 2009
Oh that was a joke. I must have missed the smilley face on that one. LOL
October 28th, 2009
Oh christ I’m dealing with morons. I know HD DVD is dead. HDi is a program that belongs to Microsoft and HD DVD belongs to Toshiba. What makes you think Microsoft can’t resurrect HDi and use it for their own Movie Service offered through LIVE!
October 28th, 2009
Anyway Mike I’m still waiting for your answer as you implyed that BD-Live comment was meant for Microsft to read into and not the consumer but I got it unlike the rest of your minions because that flew right over their heads.
October 28th, 2009
Patcher is probably wrong anyway. Looking at MS’s history: “exclusive” almost always means “timed exclusive”.
October 28th, 2009
JofaMang
I’m all for recognising the reality of the current situation.
Blu-ray won the little battle between the HD video formats.
No news there.
What we can say tho is that Java is in large part responsible for the clunky mess a lot of the Blu-ray menus and features can sometimes be.
It is in fact perfectly fair to point out that this entire situation arose because Sony & their partners refused to go along with the DVD Forum (despite being members) and cooperate on the next HD format.
This by the way had nothing to do with which movie studio ended up supporting which format (which in any event had very little to do with any actual merit and was all down to laughable lies about their so-called ‘security’ – BD+ and all the rest were broken long ago – and how much cash each threw at whichever studio).
This is no conspiracy tale this is a matter of record.
The BDA’s reasoning was obvious, they expected to cash-in on ‘another DVD’ and did not want to share it as widely as they would have to have done had they gone through the DVD Forum
(which is ironic as avoiding stupid, costly and self-harming format wars a main point of the DVD Forum).
Unfortunately for them they ended up with a protracted format war and a pyrrhic victory and we all live with the consequences.
We know HD movies on disc will not be around for long, Blu-ray simply doesn’t have the time, at current growth rates, to get big enough to withstand the onslaught of the continually growing streaming services.
The key is that there is no sign of Blu-ray’s growth picking up by the necessary amount.
It is at the stage now where almost every week a new downloading and/or streaming service is launched.
The old DVD market is in the process of fragmenting so heavily that it will become a mass of minority shares.
Feel free to dismiss reasoned debate as hate as the usual suspects around here prefer to if you like but I suspect you are better than that.
October 28th, 2009
“That is where your wrong. Anyone who look at both formats would know that HD DVD was the better product at the time when compared to bluray. Bluray was playing catch up and then Sony paid for the win”
That is where your wrong. I heard of BR years before it was released. Back in 2000-2001
It wasn’t sony’s product at the time.
October 28th, 2009
Talk all the bullshit you want. You and HH are just trolls who think they know what their talking about.
October 28th, 2009
BLUray prior to the war had no:
what war WW2? LOL
October 28th, 2009
@ncaissie
“BLUray prior to the war had no:
what war WW2? LOL”
LMAOO
October 28th, 2009
CAD and HH are probably one of those idiots with a Betamax and tons of tapes LOL
October 28th, 2009
Oh Happy we can only laugh at stupidity/lack of knowledge on the topic. There is no point in going on. So Mike I’m waiting for your response and then that it for me.
October 28th, 2009
I still have a Laserdisc player and about 30 movies in storage. TAKE THAT BACK NCAISSIE I SWEAR TO GOD.
October 28th, 2009
Betamax was superior for recording. Until svhs that is.
October 28th, 2009
SVHS was ridiculously expensive (15+ for SVHS when VHS was down to 1-3 each) even in the EOL of VHS. I had a few SVHS tapes for temporary recording, as they never seemed to lose quality even after dozens of re-recordings on the same tape, but used the crap tapes for stuff I wanted to keep, just because of the price.
October 28th, 2009
Oh yeah I’m still waiting for a senseable response to this without the stupidity of telling me about HD DVD being dead. Duhhh!!!
“HDi is a program that belongs to Microsoft and HD DVD belongs to Toshiba(which is currently dead). What makes you think Microsoft can’t resurrect HDi (a program made by Microsoft) and use it for their own Movie Service offered through LIVE!”
Because we all know that those features only exsist on physical media at the moment and if what Mike is hinting at then we should see the same for BD-Live to exsist on PSN.
October 28th, 2009
I can’t dismiss a lot of what happy says. He seems to be painting it one color but forgetting the subtleties that also helped create the format war.Â
When creating a format one has to keep in mind the movie studios, obviously as their movies are on said format. More movie studios prefered an added encryption scheme to thwart piracy (bd+) than the older scheme that DVD used. This in return gave the bda more support where it counts. These same studios are the scary evil monsters that happy mentions time and time. They didn’t want their
Shit stolen so they went with the option that gave them more protection. Shame on them.Â
MS support never amounted for blu Ray for a
Couple of reasons.Â
Blu Ray planned on using other compression tech other than vc1 which was a MS created format.Â
Blu Ray planned to use bd-j instead of ihd or hdi as it’s known today.Â
MS also wanted to be a thorn in sonys side and stall the format war for their own purposes which was a streaming option that’s still a work in progress.Â
Why else would they have bought paramount for 18 months?
October 28th, 2009
Please take this in the nicest of ways cad. You confusing up some things.
Blu Ray live would be used as a conduit to netflix. This does not mean all the flashy bd live stuff will be available nor any need for ms to try and compete with Sony in that respect.
Think of bd live like a bridge being used.
October 28th, 2009
CAD! HD DVD IIIISSSSSS DDDEEEEAAAADDDDD!!! Give it up already!
October 28th, 2009
Yeah, I take it like phranctoast, that BD-Live is just a tool to help circumvent the exclusivity, not the engine that powers the whole service.
I am betting that the exclusivity will expire about the time the Firmware update includes netflix. With that will be the exit of BD-Live from being used in the service.
The difference would be like watching a movie over Linux instead of windows. Same Resolutions, same compression methods, different OS. I highly doubt (and it hasn’t even been hinted) that the use of BD-Live includes access to all the BD-Live features found on the associated BD hardcopy.
That would be a HUGELY stupid move, assuming streaming can eventually provide true uncompressed 1080p, the marketable advantage of owning the BD would be destroyed. Of course, the math doesn’t work even on our best internet connections for instant on uncompressed 1080p anytime in the next 10 years.
October 28th, 2009
CAD
Quite.
ncassie
I thought you were ignoring my posts?
(and the idea that ‘Blu-ray’ was anything more than a proposed concept in 2001 is laughable, and Blu-ray has always been primarily a Sony venture, they were the majority holders in the enterprise).
phranctoast
Why are you confusing the matter of studio support like this?
That has nothing to o with the initial moves (which were going on long before it got as far as studio support).
Like I said, studio support had nothing to do with merit as a consumer product and everything to do with the delusions regarding ‘security’.
AACS which both HD DVD and Blu-ray used BTW was nothing like the same as the security DVD used so your implied comment about “than the older scheme that DVD used” is simply misplaced and irrelevant.
Both HD DVD & Blu-ray mandated the exact same 3 video codecs (compression); VC1, AVC & MPEG2, in fact.
October 28th, 2009
“CAD! HD DVD IIIISSSSSS DDDEEEEAAAADDDDD!!! Give it up already!”
It a shame some people just can’t read and he is Canadian. Oh how sad.
October 28th, 2009
“Blu Ray live would be used as a conduit to netflix. This does not mean all the flashy bd live stuff will be available nor any need for ms to try and compete with Sony in that respect.
Think of bd live like a bridge being used.”
Phranctoast
Well that is exactly what I’m trying to find out. Mike gave the hint of it but never clarified himself yet and I’ve been asking for the clarification about the 5th time now.
Thanks for not being a moron like the rest.
October 28th, 2009
Happy here is something that will peak your intrest.
http://blogs.msdn.com/andypennell/archive/2009/06/18/more-hd-dvd-players-than-blu-ray-players-in-america-still-in-2009.aspx
October 28th, 2009
When your there check out Feb 2008
http://blogs.msdn.com/andypennell/archive/2008/02.aspx
October 28th, 2009
thats a blog page, and who ever wrote it probably forgot to count all the PS3s.
and it still doest change the fact that HD-DVD is dead…where are you trying to get with all these?
October 28th, 2009
It’s not meant for you guys. So don’t worry about it.
October 28th, 2009
So I was playing the Forza Demo again and I must say, I know many knocked the rewind feature but I love it. It helps you master a turn without restarting the race just because you messed up. I understand Madden has this feature too.
October 28th, 2009
actually Happy the tech existed back in 2000-2001 like Ncassie said. Studio support was definitely involved early on. It should be obvious that it was, as without their support it just crashes and burns.
The group that preluded the BDA was formed in 2002.
In fact the first blu ray player was released in 2003 in Japan. The tech was there, just not the standard.
Happy, You should also point out that Toshiba headed the DVD forum. They have as much to gain by steering the committee to their favor.
October 28th, 2009
I was always under the impression that you could access netflix through the browser on the PS3, so all this does is require you to stick a disc into the drive to access that very same browser. how is that new?
October 28th, 2009
phranctoast
Actually phranc the theory existed and the concept was knocking about but it is laughable to suggest that ‘Blu-ray’ as it came to be was around back then in 2000 – 2001.
The fact that the BDA formed back in 2002 just tells you how ready that group was to shaft the DVD Forum.
The Blu-ray player you’re referring to was not in fact a Blu-ray player at all but a data storage device which was the concept prototype for the idea.
It’s about a million miles away from the BD player as we now know it.
You’ve not picked up the fact that both formats mandated the same video codecs (regardless of the fact that VC1 is the Microsoft one).
Toshiba have Chaired the DVD Forum that’s true, but it is hardly a position from which the committee can be ‘steered’ as you claim.
Do you know who the steering committee are?
Hitachi Ltd., Matsushita Electric Industrial Co. Ltd., Mitsubishi Electric Corporation, Koninklijke Philips Electronics N.V., Pioneer Electronic Corporation, Sony Corporation, Thomson multimedia, Time Warner Inc., Toshiba Corporation, and Victor Company of Japan, Ltd.)
Along with up to ten (10) additional Principal Members to be determined by the above-named ten companies.
None of those companies can be claimed to be ‘in Toshiba’s pocket’.
Like I said, the BDA gang chose not to go with & through the DVD Forum simply because of their greed.
They thought they could cash in in the same way as Toshiba had with DVD and so opted to swerve the cooperation which would have seen HD video on disc years before it appeared.
Thanks to their short-sighted stupidity we end up with a short-lived HD video disc format and they got what their selfish moves deserved in the end.
They have spent a huge fortune spent on R&D and new manufacturing plant and no prospect whatsoever of recovering that (as we can already see with margins pared to the bone – latest net rumour is that there will be a $50 Blu-ray player on Black Wednesday.
S’funny how the wheel turns – rock-bottom pricing and little if no margin was once held up as a point to bash HD DVD over)
October 28th, 2009
@CAD,
“Actually, now that I think about it, the fact that Sony clearly stated that the service is using Blu-ray’s BD-Live technology to access Netflix content seems like its meant more for Microsoft to read than for the consumer. ”
I think your misinterpreting my sentence. The whole context around it is around how Netflix is circumventing the exclusivity contract with Microsoft.
The speculation is that the exclusivity contract probably has something to do with how the Netflix application embedded into the NXE on the Xbox 360 and the type of network communication protocol.
BD-Live is Sony’s patented network communication method, so by stating that this new Netflix partnership will use BD-Live in a press release tells Microsoft that they are not violating the terms of the agreement between Netflix and Microsoft.
It was an interesting point about the legal semantics, and not a jab at technology superiority.
October 28th, 2009
Thanks to their short-sighted stupidity we end up with a short-lived HD video disc format and they got what their selfish moves deserved in the end.”
sooooo tell me. when do you the end of BD? the orignal Xbox was a short-lived gaming system..and I bet BD is bound to last more
October 28th, 2009
Roca
Jebus but that was lame.
The Samsung guy (only Samsung, one of Blu-ray’s biggest backers) gave it 5yrs in late 2008.
You don’t really think they want a long-lived system do you?
Wake up.
The whole point is to get us all to move on to something else again in a few years.
(and you’ve got to be laughably ill-informed to not know that Xbox mk1 died early because of an almighty row between Microsoft and Nvidia, it wasn’t really a ‘choice’ at all.
But once again you already knew that and preferred to slam Xbox with your idiotic BS)
October 28th, 2009
It was an interesting point about the legal semantics, and not a jab at technology superiority.
Well thanks for clearing that up. When I heard that statement I thought that they would apply BD-Live to Netflix movies which would be great as you can only get that experience on a disk. So I thought that if they do that don’t think that Microsfot can’t do the same and just pull out HDi. I was not trying to get at who is superior because I have never seen BD-Live but the usual trolls get me off topic all the time.
October 28th, 2009
Happy I think you need to add that Sony was desperate to win after so many failed attempts.
October 28th, 2009
Hey Happy did you check out Andy Pennell Blog. He worked for Microsoft and was on the HD DVD team before it all ended. He gives much insite into what happened. But that is all history now.
October 28th, 2009
I had a productive day. Blue Dragon and Old King Doran are dead.
All I have left to do is the False King… but I kind of don’t even want to fight him. I don’t want to risk loosing levels.
October 28th, 2009
CAD
Thanks for the blog addy.
Interesting stuff.
I might have to pose a couple of questions.
October 28th, 2009
@IVAN
Exibit A (11th Aug 2009) –
http://gamer.blorge.com/2009/08/11/best-xbox-live-arcade-games-of-2009/
Exibit B (17th june 2009) –
http://gamer.blorge.com/2009/06/17/ps3-is-obviously-superior-to-the-xbox-360-from-a-technical-standpoint/
WHAT A FUCKING LOSER YOU ARE. WHY WON’T YOU EXPLAIN TTHIS????? LOL
October 28th, 2009
Exibit A (11th Aug 2009) –
gamer.blorge.com/2009/08/11/best-xbox-live-arcade-games-of-2009/
Exibit B (17th june 2009) –
gamer.blorge.com/2009/06/17/ps3-is-obviously-superior-to-the-xbox-360-from-a-technical-standpoint/
WHAT A FUCKING LOSER YOU ARE. WHY WON’T YOU EXPLAIN TTHIS????? LOL
October 28th, 2009
@Barnabe
I lost like, 12 levels the first time I fought him. The next time, I used lighter armor (King doran is best light armor there is) so I could roll around faster, and even on NG+, my second time I only lost 1 level.
October 28th, 2009
CON
His sort never have the necessary pair to ever admit to being wrong and apologise to all those he lied to & took the pi$$ out of
(which was all of us, in fact).
Simple as that.
I’d love to be proved wrong but I have a very strong suspicion that Ivan will either disappear and become someone else or brazen it out.
October 29th, 2009
Well any time he mentions anything he claims to have i.e. his x number of ps3s and xboxes I’m simply going to quote those links every time and call him out.
October 29th, 2009
Who cares? Like you fucks ever took Ivan seroiously to begin with. I was at the point of ignoring his posts months ago. All your bitching about this subject is really looking petty.
October 29th, 2009
phranctoast
S’funny how when it comes to it you PS3 guys cvan always be relied upon to back up even the proven liars and f*ckwit element (if they too are PS3 fans).
Ivan nailed himself to the wall and after the way he has behaved here deserves everything hes been getting.
October 29th, 2009
haha how pathethic is Happy to think BD is only going to last 5 years (dont keep your hopes up kido)
October 29th, 2009
I’m just tired of reading all the BS. It’s literally in every story. We get it…you’re the super internet sleuth Mr Sherlock Hockum.
Thank you for drawing the line in the sand. You can always be relied upon for doing that.
So you’re really going to tell me you took him seriously to begin with?
The guy that has three 360′s….. 4 Ps3′s always selling them on Ebay to get a newer model and creating his post to look like a press release with all the Copyright and trademark stuff included. The ADD individual that contradicts his points in his own sentences….
please…….
October 29th, 2009
“creating his post to look like a press release with all the Copyright and trademark stuff included”
LMAOOOO thats so truee (I though I was the only noticing it)
October 29th, 2009
phranctoast
Just saying, it is interesting to see which ‘targets’ some choose here.
Roca
Like VHS Blu-ray will be around more than 5yrs.
The point is not how long it is around on store shelves, it is about how long the studios will push it as a major element in the market, and once again like as if you didn’t know.
You’re really working hard at taking the f*ckwit crown from the liar.
October 29th, 2009
again, dont keep your hopes up Mr. Patcher wannabe
nobody can take that crown from you.
October 29th, 2009
“Just saying, it is interesting to see which ‘targets’ some choose here.”
I’ll give you that.
Even though some people say some of the most ridiculous things, if they share my console preference I usually don’t bother to call them on it. It’s usually do to lack of caring. It would also be taking pleasurable fun time away from some of you guys.
Not one person can claim they do otherwise.
October 29th, 2009
Roca
You know, when you’re going to call someone names it helps if your reference isn’t something obscure and known to a handful of people.
Who the hell is “Mr Patcher”.
A teacher at your school?
October 29th, 2009
@ Happy
“Who the hell is “Mr Patcherâ€.
A teacher at your school?”
read the title of this article you moron, but anways Patcher is a Future-telling dickhead who have failed horrible on his previous predictions…just like you
October 29th, 2009
@Roca
it’s spelled wrong
October 29th, 2009
Mr. Pachter
sounds better now. thanks
October 29th, 2009
Mr Pachter….
He’s sometimes right…..but you know how the saying goes.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
October 29th, 2009
Roca
“read the title of this article you moron”
phranctoast:
“it’s spelled wrong”
LMAO
Oh dear, just slightly 1/2 a ton of egg on your face, “moron”.
October 29th, 2009
if bluray was the success sony swore it would be, they wouldn’t have caved in to Netflix just to keep pace with a console that doesn’t even offer Bluray.
bad news for Sony’s bluray plans, that’s for sure.
they’re missing out on potential BR licensing fees from every Netflix movie played on the PS3.
oh well…only the most hardcore (read: mindless) sony fanboys actually thought bluray would somehow propel sony into the #1 position again….
October 29th, 2009
laugh all you want(when you dont have a valid argument you tend to focus on lil/dumb stuff..like wasting your time with Ivan and Posting 100 times that you cought him lying) …but again dont keep ur hopes up on BD 5-year life span
already 3 years and counting
October 29th, 2009
@Kev.
theres a place for downoadable media. It’s called renting.
October 29th, 2009
phranc – the business model sony is using for Bluray and the BDA is counting on sales and rental of the tangible disks….not d/l….
the “renting” of d/l media is a direct competitor to their bluray disk plans of world domination.
let’s let it go. this is obviously over your head….
October 29th, 2009
renting in a direct competitor to buying movies in general.
It existed before and it will exist again. Downloadable movies are just another type.
Gives people more choices.
The studios (Sony included) get a license fee for every movie played on that service.
October 29th, 2009
“The studios (Sony included) get a license fee for every movie played on that service.”
and thats why you wont find any movies from Sony on the XBL video rental service.
October 29th, 2009
phranc – like i said..over your head.
if you think sony makes anywhere near the licensing fees on d/l content than a standalone disk, then you’re more delusional than i thought.
spin it anyway you can, sonyboy…the fact is; they’re not competing with their own bluray business model…. not good…..
leave the studios out of this. you’re trying to skew the topic with your ignorance of the sujbect….
October 29th, 2009
You need to work on not being such a pretentious ass.
-Quality isn’t the same as blu ray
-No Newer titles.
I said it before and I’ll say it again. People that want to buy movies will buy movies. People that don’t will rent.
October 29th, 2009
apperantly Kev was so busy keeping track of all his medicines that he never realized the rental “options” has been available for everybody since the VHS/VCR days
October 29th, 2009
Roca
You really are desperate to take over the f*ckwit title aren’t you?
Nobody ever said Blu-ray would have a total lifespan of only 5yrs.
Idiot.
But like all trolling moronic cretins are already knew that.
October 29th, 2009
kev
“if bluray was the success sony swore it would be, they wouldn’t have caved in to Netflix just to keep pace with a console that doesn’t even offer Bluray”
Bingo.
We have a winner.
The support crowd will do their best to minimise what this means but anyone seriously trying to claim this is a step forward for the Blu-ray/PS3 project is laughably insane.
October 29th, 2009
No one here rented a game or movie and then decided they liked it enough to own it?
Anyway. My first post in the last netflix topic explains my feelings on this the best.
October 29th, 2009
“Nobody ever said Blu-ray would have a total lifespan of only 5yrs.”
explain how come I have seen 2-3 post from you quoting Samsung’s comments about BD has 5 years more left in it. do you want me to show when you and where you quoted Samsung? and if you believed that you are more stupid that the guy who said.
and no thanks I dont want to take the FuckWit Crown/Title from you…you can keep and rob it all over your ass.
@ Happy/Kev
Like Phanc said. “People that want to buy movies will buy movies. People that don’t will rent”
Netflix is no where near DB quality..so ppl who want to take full advantage of their expensive HD setup will always buy/rent BD.
and resolutiong higher than 1080p is bound to happen sooner or later so BD will be able to all the data for it but in the contrary it streaming it will take more bandwith will be more of a pain
October 29th, 2009
Nobody ever said Blu-ray would have a total lifespan of only 5yrs.
I thougt you said that after talking to a samsung guy.
October 29th, 2009
giving him the Crown too Phranc
October 29th, 2009
Posting from my phone sucks. I didn’t see that you already wrote that.
October 29th, 2009
Roca.:
“Nobody ever said Blu-ray would have a total lifespan of only 5yrs.â€
“explain how come I have seen 2-3 post from you quoting Samsung’s comments about BD has 5 years more left in it. do you want me to show when you and where you quoted Samsung? and if you believed that you are more stupid that the guy who said”
You’re insane – as well as laughably innane.
The Samsung guy said in sept 08 that he reckoned Blu-ray had 5 more years left in it (go ahead & quote, I gave the link).
How you twist that into your ludicrous notion that (according to you)_ I’ve claimed ‘Blu-ray would last a total of 5 years’ is just one for your own deranged ‘logic’.
…..and there goes phranctoast illustrating perfectly what I said about who you choose to roll in and ‘support’ and bash.
Roca, try you shilling act on someone interested.
It might be different if you were at least amusing and/or interesting but you’re well wide of that every time.
October 29th, 2009
at Happy:
-you said:
Nobody ever said Blu-ray would have a total lifespan of only 5yrs
-I said:
explain how come I have seen 2-3 post from you quoting Samsung’s comments about BD has 5 years more left in it.
-you said:
How you twist that into your ludicrous notion that (according to you)_ I’ve claimed ‘Blu-ray would last a total of 5 years’ is just one for your own deranged ‘logic’.
you can’t read now..you even quoted my comment and it clearly says “Samsung’s comments about BD has 5 years more left in it”
hahaha you deserver another crown
and either way your are as stupid as the samsumg guy for posting it. that comment alone is as stupid as some from Sony saying “next gen start when we say so”
too bad you fall in the same category
maybe a 3rd crow will do better
October 29th, 2009
phranctoast:
“Quality isn’t the same as blu ray”
Er, it was actually.
In fact some Blu-rat titles are very poor (so bad they had to be redone and reissued – think 1st release of ‘The Fifth Element’ (the 2nd release is hardly stellar either) and the pi$$-poor ‘House of the flying Daggers’).
The usual complaint the ill-informed Blu-ray fan makes is that HD DVD did not have enough space (which ignores totally the existing situation with and the latest developements in video compression – one might even think from the way some Blu-ray fanboys talk that Blu-ray itself was not enormously compressed compared to uncompressed 1080p video).
HD DVD in fact had the exact same 1080p video Blu-ray carries.
As far as audio is concerned the HD DVD ‘floor’ for minimum audio quality (Dolby Digital Plus) is actually higher than the 640kbps minimum Blu-ray mandated.
There are plenty of HD DVD titles with lossless Dolby TruHD audio too.
(but you only have to hear the resident f*ckwit witter on about how he thought
‘optical was the best audio you can get’
to know that for most of the Blu-ray/PS3 fanboys lossless audio is utterly irrelevant, they have neither the speakers nor the receiver to even hear it……and don’t even understand the subject to make such ridiculous pronouncements)
October 29th, 2009
Roca
You’re a cretin.
1st you attempt to laugh at me for saying blu-ray would last 5yrs then you dodge & swerge in circles when it’s obvious I said no such thing.
I bet you imagine yourself incredibly clever & amusing.
Shame it’s only in your own mind tho.
F*ckwit.
October 29th, 2009
“1st you attempt to laugh at me for saying blu-ray would last 5yrs then you dodge & swerge in circles when it’s obvious I said no such thing.”
haha even phranc noticed it. maybe you forgot to log onto your other account (kev) when quoted the misterious Samsung guy.
more crown for the royaly
do you mean fuckwit…come say it like a man, say like you mean it~
“You’re a cretin.”
looks like that trip to singap0or helped expand your vocabulary a bit
October 29th, 2009
you forgot to say HD-DVD is “dead” on you anti-BD trolling post
October 29th, 2009
Roca
The reason why I star or obscure a letter in a curse word is because unlike you I have a little consideration for those who find offense in that sort of thing.
Obviously that probably comes as a surprise to you, adolescents awaiting adulthood amusingly always imagine cursing to be ‘manly’.
It’s a bit sad really.
Unlike you & your ‘pal’ Ivan (and undoubtedly 1 or 2 others here) I do not and never have used another log-in name here in Gamer Blorge.
Fail. Badly. Yet again.
Just like you failed with your own invented idiocy that I’m supposed to have said Blu-ray would last just 5yrs in total
(“BD 5-year life span”).
Yes HD DVD did die off
(although sales have proved remarkably resilient for a dead format), I have never denied that.
Even so it’ll just go down as the 1st of the HD video on disc formats to fail to become ‘ther next DVD’.
Blu-ray is failing too, albeit at a slower rate.
Awwww, nevermind, eh?
October 29th, 2009
Oh and trust a f*ckwit fanboy like you to write off a factually correct post, regarding the technicalities of both HD formats, as “anti-BD trolling”.
You really can’t abide seeing the facts of the matter, can you?
Still, what does anyone expect from the sort of moron who imagines that
‘optical audio is the best you can get’
and that
‘HDMI cables are so that you can connect your console to the TV and then use optical for the audio’.
Utterly laughable.
Go on, admit it, you’re about 13 aren’t you?
Lying like your buddy Ivan.
*guffaw*
October 29th, 2009
Happy”Unlike you & your ‘pal’ Ivan (and undoubtedly 1 or 2 others here) I do not and never have used another log-in name here in Gamer Blorge.”
it has been proven Ivan and I are two different person.
EPIC FAIL..AGAIN (a new has been set for failures by Happy)
“Just like you failed with your own invented idiocy that I’m supposed to have said Blu-ray would last just 5yrs in total
(â€BD 5-year life spanâ€).”
I said it before but I will said it again for your retarded ass:
“you can’t read now..you even quoted my comment and it clearly says “Samsung’s comments about BD has 5 years more left in it—
HORROBLY FAILED!!
Happy: “Blu-ray is failing too, albeit at a slower rate.”
can you elaborate? no. MASSIVE FAILED!! again
Happy: “Go on, admit it, you’re about 13 aren’t you?
Lying like your buddy Ivan.”
I know thats average age for abusing innocent kids. but dont try to hit on me. Thanks.
Have a good life waiting (Desperately) for BD to fail. the only whos failing so far is you. is your infamous samsung guy 13 years old, maybe he will be down for your dirty games
October 29th, 2009
*guffaw*
*guffaw* 
October 29th, 2009
Roca
2 different PSN accounts ‘proves’ nothing.
Back-peddle on that 5yr cr@p as fast as you like your stupidity is there for all to see.
Blu-ray failing?
Sure.
Entering it’s 4th year @ 6% – a slower take-off than DVD – is fail
(and that’s with the enormous boost including it in PS3 from day 1 gave it – DVD got it’s boost @ 4yrs in from the PS2……there will be no similar year on year doubling of sales for the next couple of years for BD).
Child abuse.
Yeah, wow what a nice topic for joking about.
You are an adolescent kid aren’t you.
Idiot.
Have a great life shilling daily for PS3/Sony?Blu-ray.
October 29th, 2009
“2 different PSN accounts ‘proves’ nothing.”
its been prove by PSN, Dave already say Ips were different you the only troll who keeps spamming the same shit.
Happy “there will be no similar year on year doubling of sales for the next couple of years for BD).
Mr. Pachter did again….FALIED
Have a great life shilling daily for 360/no existance of RRoD/BD is Failing/360′s numbers/best hardware in gaming history.
October 29th, 2009
btw that was my last respond to you. if you feel like responding then do so.
good luck
October 29th, 2009
Roca
Wise up.
2 different PSN accounts & 2 different IPs is the easiest thing in the world to have.
You gave actual ‘proof’ of nothing.
For instance, were I as sad & that way inclined I could use at least 4 if I wanted with the minimum of effort (and all through different ISPs).
More if I could be ar$ed.
That Pachter (not Patcher anymore, huh) comment is lame and ill-founded.
You obviously hate to hear it but there are already significant numbers out this year, Blu-ray has grown by 44% this year.
That is not doubling year on year.
The failure is all yours.
The thing is I do not shill the 360.
I can happily criticise it when it’s due and I don’t do your trick of saying nothing but endless (empty) praise.
Most of what I post here is laughing at the risible and often ignorant cr@p you post.
October 29th, 2009
can you log in into two PSN account and play the same game online with another player from this site. good luck down that. find a better excused next time…you are pathethic now.
bye Patcher
October 29th, 2009
Feeble.
If I had a ‘friend’ willing to go along & sustain the charade it wqould hardly be difficult now would it?
Jebus H but you’re thick – or (much more likely, in my opinion) ridiculously condescending enough to seriously imagine that the rest of us are too dumb to be unable to see how it can easily be done.
Idiot.
October 30th, 2009
“and thats why you wont find any movies from Sony on the XBL video rental service.”
Yes there are plenty of Sony pictures movies on the XBL video marketplace for rent, you would know this if you actually owned the 360 and looked on XBL before you spouted this.
October 30th, 2009
“Netflix is no where near DB quality..so ppl who want to take full advantage of their expensive HD setup will always buy/rent BD.”
Yes, but for the majority of consumers BD is marketed to that have inexpensive setups and Netflix HD streaming as well, such as myself , it is just as good for our purposes… and we can rent BD/DVD (for content that is not yet available on BD) at the same time as Netflix HD streaming is just a supplement to the disc rental service, so it just makes sense.
October 30th, 2009
@Happyhockum,
“Blu-ray has grown by 44% this year.
That is not doubling year on year.”
I agree, but I have to admit, that’s still not a bad figure at all. Blu-ray may not ever match DVD’s popularity, but it definitely seems to be moving in the right direction as far as making significant sales to stay the course and be profitable.
I know I don’t keep up with the industry sales statistics like you or others here, but I do notice little things that seem to be good signs of a tipping point. For instance opening up the Navy Exchange (NEX) flyer today and noticing there are many more non-Sony PC’s being advertised at reasonable prices with Blu-ray ROM Drives. This seems eerily similar to when DVD ROMs first started becoming popular in PC’s to me. Signs of success for the format?
October 30th, 2009
last week BD took about 15% of all physical media sold.
October 30th, 2009
phranctoast
That’s really not good you know. Not when you look behind the headline and see what the history is and how this arises.
For well over a year Blu-ray has, according to the Neilsen Videoscan numbers been stuck fast moving between an 8% – 17% share.
……and that ‘last week’ number is boosted enormously (but still manages to be very unimpressive) by that cr@ppy ‘Transformers 2′ garbage.
That was their big hit this year and still they stayed within their usual range.
In fact the truth is that Blu-ray sales are on a gentle upward slope periodically punctuated by big spikes every time a movie aimed slap-bang on the ‘PS3 demographic’ arrives.
Then, once that effect is over, the numbers fall right off a cliff again.
You might like to consider that Neilsen Videoscan also flatters Blu-ray and shows it in it’s best light.
Blu-ray is an early adopters format (nobody can seriously claim it is genuinely mass-market at this stage).
DVD is a mature market.
Early adopters tend to buy on first release.
Mature market buyers have now learned to wait a few weeks or months for the inevitable and substantial price-cuts.
Once again this is a situation where like is not quite being compared with like.
October 30th, 2009
Carlb: “Yes there are plenty of Sony pictures movies on the XBL video marketplace for rent, you would know this if you actually owned the 360 and looked on XBL before you spouted this”
sorry I got the services mixed up. it is you beloved netflix that cant stream anything Sony.
“There is one omission to content available on Xbox 360 however, with Sony decided to make any movies from Sony Pictures Entertainment unplayable on the Playstation 3’s rival console. The Sony movies will still be watchable on PCs, Macs, and other Netfix enabled set-top boxes”
http://www.webtvwire.com/watch-netflix-movies-on-xbox-360-new-xbox-experience-includes-hd-but-no-sony-content/
yeah if I had one I would have know…damn you MS and you crappy hardware
October 30th, 2009
again…instead of correcting me you accused me of lying. but your response to Happy was more proffesional even though you had a slightly different point of view.
I guess I have to live with this for being PS3 owner
October 30th, 2009
Carlb
The PC drive stuff is an interesting one.
It seems to me that they havebent over backwards to keep burners and media priced so highly that they are practically invisible in the marketplace.
ROM drives.
Yes it’s true that they have come down in price but they are IIRC around 1/2 the cost of the cheapest stand-alone.
Personally (with the one exception of the Xbox HD DVD add-on which is an excellent ROM drive and cost me peanuts – £20 ($33 US = $36 AUS – damn but the US $ has fallen a hell of a lot against the Aussie $) I wouldn’t buy a ROM drive.
It’s not even as if it’s a cheap way into high def, you need the software (and if you don’t know where to get it, er, ‘free’ on-line you are stuck……and you need that software to be updateable when firmware revisions and security revisions appear, as they still do with Blu-ray from time to time.
If things were to change I doubt it would make much odds now, hard drives are so reliable & cost-effective now per $/gb that a BD burner & media wouldn’t look like any kind of value at all.
I just paid £58 ($95 US = $105 AUS) each for 2 Western Digital 1tb drives delivered.
A Blu-ray burner alone is much more than that (the cheapest I can see here is about £132 ($218 US = $240 AUS) and the BD 25 media is expensive and the BD50 media is hard to come by and laughably expensive.
In my opinion I think they have missed the boat on that one in PCs.
October 30th, 2009
“it is you beloved netflix that cant stream anything Sony.”
Yet again roca, Netflix streaming on 360 also has Sony pictures movies, and once again, you would know this if you had a 360 and checked before you misspoke. And I’m sorry, nothing is “beloved” to me, though I do think Netflix HD streaming is an excellent service so far on 360 (albeit far from perfection).
“again…instead of correcting me you accused me of lying.”
No, I just corrected you, said you were mistaken, and you just admitted to it. There is a difference (at least to me) from being mistaken (as you were) and lying. As in you just really did not know what you were talking about and still do not when it comes to a service you do not have on a console you do not have, you just used false second-hand information and went with it as fact. It happens, no worries. Lying in my mind is purposely and maliciously spreading falsehoods when you know the truth (I don’t think you did this).
My response to happy’s statement: “Blu-ray has grown by 44% this year.
That is not doubling year on year” was more measured because what he stated seemed pretty straightforward and factual from what little I know about the subject already.
“I guess I have to live with this for being PS3 owner”
No, you just have to live with me getting the Uncharted 2 Platinum trophy before you did.
Buck up little camper.
October 30th, 2009
“It’s not even as if it’s a cheap way into high def, you need the software (and if you don’t know where to get it, er, ‘free’ on-line you are stuck……and you need that software to be updateable when firmware revisions and security revisions appear, as they still do with Blu-ray from time to time.”
I don’t know, I find it hard to imagine that software is not built into the laptops and pc’s I’m looking at here. Looks like they are mainly from HP in this flyer. Pretty good specs too for $799 and up, though I haven’t kept up as much with this as in the past.
October 30th, 2009
I guess it’s possible things are changing but to the best of my knowledge Carlb you need something like PowerDVD to playback Blu-ray
(and HD DVD for that matter).
It’s not the sort of thing you get in a freebie player like VLC (unfortunately) or WMC (although that might have shifted a little with Windows 7).
If you check out Amazon’s listings for the seperate Blu-ray burner drives you slot in to your PC they claim to come with software but many buyers complain that it’s the stripped down useless ‘essentials’ type stuff
(like that horrible useless bare-bones version of Nero that used to get sent out with DVD burners).
October 30th, 2009
roca – i’m convinced you’re never even actually have even seen a 360. you are more wrong than right about all things 360-related. seriously.
hate in silence. do the ‘net a favor…..
October 30th, 2009
Just to add Carlb
You also want to be damned sure that if you were to buy that
(a) the supplied software was fully supported, gaving you regular updates to enable you to keep playing your discs and
(b) that support was not time-limited.
Even AnyDVD HD is finding that they are regularly updating
(and you might have thought that by stripping all the cr@p out they mightn’t have needed to be so frequent with the updates)
Consumer & user-friendly are not primary concerns with Blu-ray it would seem.
You also need to be aware that not every stand-alone is happy to play burned BD -Rs & BD -REs.
For instance many players (even Sony’s own S300, for instance) couldn’t playe them until a firmware came out for it many months after it was on the market.
My own LG won’t play them with the latest ‘profile 2.0′ firmware
(but fortunately I have a saved library of all the relevant LG firmwares and the one issued in April 08 works just fine with them – should prices ever get attractive enough for me to bother).
October 30th, 2009
“for the seperate Blu-ray burner drives”
Yes I agree those could be a pain in the butt… I was just talking about the systems by the larger companies that have it built in already. I think the pre-built systems may be more popular and better selling with the majority of the market population, though I don’t know for sure.
October 30th, 2009
http://www.slashgear.com/netflix-xbox-360-streaming-suffers-sony-pictures-pull-out-1923287/
October 30th, 2009
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/sony-pictures-pulls-nxe-netflix-content
October 30th, 2009
http://www.gamertell.com/gaming/comment/sony-pictures-entertainment-titles-not-available-on-xbox-360/
October 30th, 2009
this might have changed…but these were some article I read so time ago
October 30th, 2009
roca – you’re reading old and outdated information.
please try to keep up.
October 30th, 2009
Happy
every single Electronic device/apps/software now days that are online-capable and wants to add new/better features to offer better customer service, will do it via a software update (which is way better than having to buy a new one). Cell phones go through updates, TVs now are doing the same, GPSs do it, Gaming systems (360/PS3), some car’s dashboard, computer software (hello service packs), apps, many portable electronic devices etc.
a BD player is no different
October 30th, 2009
“roca – you’re reading old and outdated information.”
I corrected my self and stated:
“this might have changed…but these were some article I read so time ago”
you clearly skipped that line, its funny that this come from a guy who keeps bring up GT4 to a Forza 3 comparation and talk trash about GT5 which is 60% complete and no where near being release
October 30th, 2009
roca – “no where near being release”
actually kaz said he could launch it right now if he wanted.
either you or he is a liar. which is it?
October 30th, 2009
“they’ve even managed to accurately reflect the differences between a Mercedes SL 600 and the Mercedes SL 55, which is hard enough to do in real life.”
“if he wanted” are the key words….thanks (ohh the lack of comprehension skill)
60% of a GT game will be 200%-300% of most racing game out there. the game is set for March 2009.(I guess he did “wanted” to release right now then)
October 30th, 2009
“if he wanted”…so he’s saying the game is complete… you’re saying it’s nowhere near completion..
who’s lying..you or him?
“60% of a GT game will be 200%-300% of most racing game out there”…thanks for reminding us why you are one of the biggest sony fanboys here..
so..who’s lying?
October 30th, 2009
Roca
A BD player is absolutely very different.
This has nothing to do with the usual “add new/better features to offer better customer service” example you gave and has everything to do with so-called ‘security’ changes which can stop the player playing discs.
BD (thanks to that ‘virtual machine’ disaster that is BD+) is indeed very different.
You really haven’t a clue about the details of this stuff, have you?
October 30th, 2009
““if he wantedâ€â€¦so he’s saying the game is complete… you’re saying it’s nowhere near completion..
who’s lying..you or him”
are you stupid or are you that blind. they release GT5p and they can release another GT5 version with less stuff (around 400 just like FM3, sans Nascar, sans W2R, sans head tracking,etc) but they keep adding more suff and they wont stop until they reach the goal..so far they said they are 60% through of what they want to accomplish…can they still release the game?? yes…(ohh the lack of comprehension skill)
October 30th, 2009
“You really haven’t a clue about the details of this stuff, have you?”
probably not….as my BD (PS3) player has worked fine since I bought it, with only one update so far (BD-live 2.0) and everything else works like a charm. cant complain there. but you defenitely know more about it than I do as you had to learn it the hard way.
October 30th, 2009
roca – stop tapdancing..
either kaz is a liar or you are… i’m thinking we both know it’s you….
don’t think for a moment you have the ability to speak for kaz….
October 30th, 2009
Roca
No, it’s called being informed f*ckwit.
You can sneer at all the Blu-ray stand-alone owners if you like
(terrible PR’ing for the format btw…..your shilling is cr@p at times you know)
but the fact is if the format is to take off at all it has to break out of the PS3 zone.
Of course it’s failing to do this quickly enough…..but this is mere the double-edged sword of the Sony PS3 tactic for Blu-ray revealed.
It’s also high-lighted everytime a garbage movie like that Transformers 2 POS appears and spikes the sales numbers.
The fact remains that Blu-ray’s firmware updating has absolutely nothing to do with
“add new/better features to offer better customer service”
as you ignorantly just tried to claim at first.
WTF would that mean anyways?
Are you saying you now imagine that they are going to update players to new specs?!
Whatever happened to ‘profile 2.0′ being the ‘final’ spec!?
What new specs, exactly?
‘Better’ audio than lossless (LMAO)
A higher resolution than 1080p (ditto).
Just as with HDMI & Optical links we can now add Blu-ray’s firmware updating to the list of things you’ll spout on and on about but obviously don’t understand the 1st thing about.
You’re just showing your ignorance.
Typical ignorant fanboy.
October 30th, 2009
how am i lying if the game is not release yet (just like I said) and Kaz said they are GT is 60% complete (just like I said)ohh the lack of comprehension skill)
October 30th, 2009
“Whatever happened to ‘profile 2.0′ being the ‘final’ spec!?”
Not that it stopped them coming up with a profile 3.0 (for audio only).
Intelligent class act or what?!
LOL
October 30th, 2009
kaz said he could launch gt5 anytime he wants. so either he is a liar or you are…..
stop trying to spin his words. you’re not smart enough to speak for kaz.
October 30th, 2009
Wow, Roca’s now arguing how great a game that hasn’t even appeared yet probably is going to be.
LMAO
Vaporware……with a long history of one cancelled launch date after another.
Until it’s in the shops and you can buy it who cares, at this rate they’ll be lucky to get it out next summer.
October 30th, 2009
He cannot, well he can anyone can release any game even if is not finish as long as they the boss. He just said that i don’t know why. GT5 is not finish yet.
This the TV that every gamer should soon get it looks awesome.
Bravia ZX Series
youtube.com/user/sony#p/u/12/Vh9k9njQp8g
October 30th, 2009
Ivan
The lying Sony shill fool.
Take your viral advertising spam somewhere else idiot.
October 30th, 2009
“this might have changed…but these were some article I read so time ago”
Yes it did. Some time ago meaning almost a year ago.
“roca – you’re reading old and outdated information.”
Looks like he’s also reading only the titles and not the specific information in the actual articles, as they state clearly specific information like: “all content by Sony-owned Columbia Pictures” not any movies from Sony, and “temporarily unavailable”.
So roca, I already corrected you once about the movie rental service through XBL, you then twist your comment around to say “I meant your beloved Netflix” with a link from about a year ago along with the delightfully objective comment “damn you MS and you crappy hardware”, I correct you yet again and then you decide to put up three more links in succession that are also from about a year ago after I already corrected you twice.
You then add as a caveat to your proclamation of the way things are with a service on a console you do not even own “this might have changed…but these were some article I read so time ago” and this is “I corrected my self”?
Classy.
October 30th, 2009
New PlayStation®3 250GB System just $350 can you say temptation or what.
us.playstation.com/PS3/Systems
This link is for all you that love PULSE like me.
us.playstation.com/PSN/pulse
The greatest place to buy games
us.playstation.com/PSN/Store
For those of you getting a subscription to Netflix to watch on PLAYSTATION 3 go here first.
netflix.com/NRDInfo/PS3
October 30th, 2009
Mike do us all a favour & ban this advertising a$$hole.
How much more blatent does the to$$er have to get?
He’s not here for the community and discussion he’s doing a viral advertising number (ab)using the site.
October 31st, 2009
Roca,
I just wanted to thank you (sincerely) for spurring me to look at different Sony Pictures Movies. One caught my eye that I had seen available through Netflix New Movies: The Children of Huang Shi but did not think twice about until now.
I probably would have passed over this without this thread, at least for a while. Instead I watched it tonight on my 360 through Netflix streaming and enjoyed it thoroughly. Thanks again, and it means more to me than who was “right” or “wrong” here, or who said what.
November 2nd, 2009
Not out on BD yet.
November 2nd, 2009
never heard of it but glad you enjoy