Week in gaming: Forza 3 physics fiasco, mini-Ballad of Gay Tony, and Eyetoy was Natal

October 30, 2009

Week in gaming: Forza 3 physics fiasco, mini-Ballad of Gay Tony, and Eyetoy was Natal This week in video gaming news there are new releases and new revelations about games out on the market. Forza 3 has a bit of a physics mishap and Ballad of Gay Tony shakes the GTA community. Also, there is an interesting video showing what Sony could have done with the Eyetoy if the company just had the foresight.

Forza 3 physics fiasco – Super PhysX excelsior!

A game that has been consuming a good amount of my time is Forza 3. The game is definitely top notch with a layer of polish in options and community features. I am currently playing Forza 3 like a mad man in order to write a review of it and it’s pretty darn good so far. The career mode will have you locked in at a steady pace gunning towards the next objective.

When it comes to physics, Turn 10 studio has been pretty bullish towards its latest creation Forza 3. The physics in the game are great and as it should be for a race sim. However, Forza 3 has been getting a bit of flack lately after a popular video popped up here in the U.S. and in Japan displaying questionable physics within the game.

It looks like a glitch of some sorts, but its still funny to watch in awe.

Mini-impression: Ballad of Gay Tony Rocks

BoGT is the latest iteration in the GTA IV universe. The latest downloadable expansion follows the journey of Jose Lopez a body guard and business partner to “Gay Tony.” I have to say this DLC blows The Lost and Damned out of the water with its over the top glitz, crime and sex. It seems like Rockstar just went all out on this one as it has everything in it from base jumping to oral sex. Check out this fantastic DLC exclusively on Xbox 360.

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Nintendo DSi Camera –WTF?

Its bad enough that you look like a dufus carrying around a DSi, but the geniuses at Nyko take things one step further. According to Kotaku, Nyko recently released a giant lens that can be mounted onto the DSi’s miniature 0.3 megapixel camera. This gigantic lens will run you about $25 and will cement you as the ultimate geek.

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PS2 Eyetoy could have been Natal “if it weren’t for those meddling Sony execs!”

There is another video up on the Internet that has been causing some controversy. Someone from Warzonegamer put up an interesting video of a tech demo from the Playstation 2 era of the Eyetoy. The video is eerily similar to Natal’s block-out like demo at E3. I like the last part of the video near the end when the Microsoft rep says this can only be done on the Natal. You have to hand it to Microsoft, its not about how advanced the technology is, but how you market it.

There you have it folks, a list of the most interesting news to come out of video gaming this week.

***Update***

By popular demand more wonky Forza 3 videos -

“Turtling” upside down is a problem, but can be easily solved with the rewind feature!

Physics on steroids!



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142 Responses to “Week in gaming: Forza 3 physics fiasco, mini-Ballad of Gay Tony, and Eyetoy was Natal”

  1. Ivan_PSP:

    Forza Motorsport 3 LoL, thanks for the clip it made my day. The DSi camera is hideous looking and embarrassing to own. Sony can still do that for PS2 to compete with the Wii you never know i hope it might just sell more PS2 faster. And The Ballad of Tony looks good, but i won’t be buying that anytime.

    Have fun playing you little game we already know your review score.

  2. CarlB:

    “It looks like a glitch of some sorts, but its still funny to watch in awe.”

    Oh no. Kev is going to go nuts over this one :) Have you been able to replicate (i.e. verify) the glitch yet Mike?

  3. Ivan_PSP:

    “Oh no. Kev is going to go nuts over this one :) Have you been able to replicate (i.e. verify) the glitch yet Mike?”

    Loved your comment kudos to you. and yes kev is going to flip over this, can’t wait to see what he comes up with. I will try to replicate the glitch if he says that is fake.

  4. CarlB:

    “interesting video of a tech demo from the Playstation 2 era of the Eyetoy.”

    Ouch. But a tech demo through a laptop all the same and never actually on PS2, so we may never know for sure. Yes, Natal is just a more advanced copy of Eyetoy as Eyetoy is just a more advanced copy of computer vision. Of course, both could just be copies of computer vision (not that far fetched is it?) But the ricochet concept itself? I’m pretty sure that was a computer vision concept first as well.

  5. CarlB:

    Thanks Ivan. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was fake, as you said yourself the PS3 side was taking over YouTube in the “war” (I don’t follow this scene as closely, so I’ll take your word for it). Of course, then again, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was actual either.

  6. Mike Ferro:

    @CarlB,

    I haven’t been able to get the car to stand on its nose like in the video, but Forza 3 does have a common problem of getting “turtled” upside down. Sometimes you have to rewind or wait until another car hits you. Also , sometimes the physics can get a bit wonky with epic crashes, like a car bulleting up into the sky.

    However, in its defense, I have to say I’ve never seen a game without its share of glitches.

    I’ll upload some more wonky vids on this page.

  7. Ivan_PSP:

    “However, in its defense, I have to say I’ve never seen a game without its share of glitches.”

    That’s until Gran Turismo 5 comes out.I guess Forza Motorsport was just too much for them to make. AT least they try.

    Youtube belongs to PlayStation there’s no doubt just check out the videos. I also believe this Forza Motorsport 3 glitch is real after doing some questioning online.

  8. oldschool1987:

    Lmao some realistic driving right there. I had that problem going to the shop last week, 7 cars honked me as I spun the car on it’s nose then finished with a back flip.

    At least Forza keeps that real world problem in lol.

  9. phranctoast:

    If there was ever a time where it was so plain as day that Mike reads all our comments and just dishes us out flame material, this is it.

    He must have been laughing to himself as he’s posting this… “This will get 200 replies… muhhhahaha”

  10. Happyhockum:

    “I have to say I’ve never seen a game without its share of glitches”

    and

    “I haven’t been able to get the car to stand on its nose like in the video”

    Pretty much all that needs to be said.
    If it’s real (a big ‘if’ given the usual suspect Playstation fanboy PR’ing) it’s a rare one and very hard to emulate even by someone playing the game “like a mad man”.

    I can’t see 200 comments when the basis of this (part of the) story is so thin.

    Also Natal is much more than just motion capture.
    Facial and voice recognition is a part of it too and I’ve not heard of anyone else’s camera kit doing that.

  11. kev:

    TEH OH-NOOOOOEEESSS!!!!!

    lmao. Geez, Mike, you’re not even trying anymore.

    nothing to add, fellas. sorry. glitches are found in every game of some sort. doesn’t detract from the quality.

  12. Roca.:

    seems like you guys need prove for everything anti-360. the video look pretty real to me. I my experienced with the demo I had a car rolling on top of my hood for about 10 secs before it finally flew away

  13. Roca.:

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10385975-1.html?tag=mncol;title

  14. Barnabe Jones:

    “Super PhysX excelsior!” = Best title EVER!

  15. Roca.:

    BJ,

    look at the worse title ever:

    “The Secret Saturdays Beasts of the 5th Sun”
    …does that even make sense. they were probably throwing some ramdon words for the title

  16. CAD:

    “If there was ever a time where it was so plain as day that Mike reads all our comments and just dishes us out flame material, this is it.

    He must have been laughing to himself as he’s posting this… “This will get 200 replies… muhhhahaha””

    LOL LOL LOL LOL Oh it seems like it doesn’t it. But it’s OK.

  17. CAD:

    Well I downloaded Gay Tony last night and I let you guys know what I think over the weekend if I can get some time to play it. I think I’m also going to pick up Forza today. I think this game is awesome. I did not like the first two but this one has pulled me in.

  18. CAD:

    Mike you forgot this news:

    PlayStation 3 sales up as losses widen at Sony

    Sales of PlayStation 3 hardware have grown during the second quarter to 3.2 million, compared to 2.4 million in the previous year.

    However, losses grew in Sony’s Network Products & Services Division – the group responsible for PlayStation products – to JPY 58.8 billion, from JPY 40.6 billion in 2008. Sales were down 24.2 per cent to JPY 352.6 billion.

    “In the game business, the deterioration in profitability was mainly due to a decrease in PS2 hardware and software unit sales, and the impact of the appreciation of the yen,” said the company.

    Sales of the handheld PlayStation Portable were down marginally from 3.2 million to 3 million, while PlayStation 2 sales fell from 2.5 million to 1.9 million.

    Sony sold 23.9 million PlayStation 3 games during the period, up from the 21.2 million in 2008, while PSP sales were also up to 12.9 million, compared to 11.8 million.

    Sales of PlayStation 2 software dropped drastically, from 23.2 million in 2008 to 11.1 million.

    The entire Sony business posted a loss for the fourth consecutive quarter of JPY 32.6 billion from July to September, compared to a profit of JPY 11.05 billion in 2008.

  19. CAD:

    And this news.

    Microsoft on Friday revealed flat year-on-year sales for its Entertainment and Devices Division, which houses Xbox, but operating income rose 96 percent to $312 million.

    EDD revenue for the first fiscal quarter ended September 30 was $1.89 billion, virtually identical to a year ago. The EDD also includes the Zune media player, PC games, online games, and other products.

    Microsoft attributed the sharp rise in profits to decreased operating expenses, primarily stemming from “decreased Xbox 360 platform costs.” A lower headcount in the division compared to a year ago also contributed to the higher profits.

    Microsoft said that it shipped 2.1 million Xbox 360s during the quarter, down slightly from the year-ago quarter, when the company shipped 2.2 million hardware units.

    The worldwide Xbox 360 installed base is “almost 34 million consoles,” Koefoed said, adding that it leads the industry with an 8.7 software title attach rate. Xbox Live revenue growth grew “in excess” of 50 percent, he said.

  20. Happyhockum:

    Interesting.

    34 million Xboxes v 27 million PS3s doesn’t look like much of a closing gap to me.

  21. Roca.:

    it also looks like nobody is outselling anybody. if those numbers are right then the 7M units difference has been the same for two years now

  22. kev:

    CAD – don’t get Forza 3 until you’re done with Gay Tony. Forza 3 will pull you in. Automotive crack at its finest. If you can get to it from work, check out the Forza forum for some of the insane paint design people have come up with already. Amazing talent…

    It’s funny reading the comments from the ps3 fanboys about Forza’s physics when GT5’s physics engine isn’t even powerful enough to make a car go airborne. Granted, a true racer will do everything they can to keep “4 on the floor”, but it strikes me silly that GT5 fanboys are mocking something their sim games aren’t powerful enough to accomplish. Sounds like sour grapes.

    I could swear the ps3 fanboys said the ps3 was outselling the 360 in both Japan and the EU since launch and yet, it has failed to close any gap with the 360. Is North America that powerful of a market? Apparently so if the ps3 fanboys are to be believed. I guess ps3 fanboys shouldn’t be believed.

    Either way, the sony fans have a lot of egg on their faces right about now…. I’d feel better with a sales number from sony than estimates from their fanbase. 27 million seems a little high for the ps3, imo…

    “8.7 software title attach rate”…… I hope the haters remember this FACT when they start claiming the 360 has “nothing to play”… that’s crazy…that’s over $500 of games per console sold. I can understand. They’re insanely fun games.

    I wonder why the ps3’s attach ratio is so low, given Roca, Ivan, Phranc, Oldschool and other (paid?) sonyboy’s claim the ps3 is the best gaming machine with the “best exclusives”. Apparently it’s not. Otherwise people would be buying more GAMES for their gaming machine. Maybe the amount of “exclusives” means little in the face of enjoyable games.

  23. Ivan_PSP:

    LMFAO…

  24. Roca.:

    @ kev,

    while I recognize the 360 fanbase has more “true” dedicated gamers (which leads to a higher attach ratio) this does not translate in better games

  25. Roca.:

    -this does not translate *to* better games

  26. kev:

    roca – what does translate to “better” games? the sony logo? the PSN logo? what…? reviews?

  27. CAD:

    Kev

    Because he said so. LOL

  28. kev:

    CAD – that must be it. lmao….

  29. Happyhockum:

    More games with higher metacritic scores would seem to me to be the best gauge……but then Xbox 360 wins that particular own so I guess that’s out for the PS3 fanboys.

    I see Ivan’s decided to become an even more ridiculous caricature.
    Like anone cares what a (lying) fool thinks.

  30. JofaMang:

    No Demon’s Souls, console doesn’t exist.

    Now, while a car spinning on its nose is an interesting glitch, how come no one is commenting on on the roll over that put the car into that position. If the physics were so realistic, how come a cars traction breaking point (when the tires lose the ability to maintain contact) is higher than the G-forces required to roll it?

    Anything short of a 90s explorer or forklight will NOT roll over based on the centre of gravities tipping point occuring before tires break loose of the pavement, unless the tires hit a stationary object creating a fulcrum at the contact point, like sliding sideways into a 12″ curb. Rollovers do NOT occur from tire traction, but from interceding the momentum of the vehicle with a sub centre of gravity contact, with enough force to roll the centre of gravity past the tipping point.

    Didn’t you claim to have forgotten more about physics than I have ever learned, Kev? Have you used “Excessive Speed” as the default accident report conclusion for so long that you forgot about these simple concepts? Nevermind, don’t answer, I really don’t care.

    Never mind about FM3, I won’t waste money on a 360 for that type of arcade play.

  31. kev:

    jofa – you opened the box, trollboy. i can’t wait to read your excuses for GT5′s glitches….lmao…

    btw; since you like to claim you know so much, you’d also realize that NO game will ever accurately recreate a flip and vault to 100%… at least Forza 3 tries….

    that’s a lot more than can be said about GT5 and their arcade, bumpercar, physics… that’s for sure…

    like is said, “sour grapes”….

  32. kev:

    jofa – how heavy does a car have to be to not be able to flip? GT5 must have some really, really heavy cars….oooo…teh realism….lmao..

    out for the weekend. later!

  33. Roca.:

    “at least Forza 3 tries…. ”

    and FAILED

  34. JofaMang:

    Flips occur in the real world when things go horribly wrong, not as an occasional side effect of intense racing.

    Why haven’t you answered my any of my questions? Either your silence is proof that you are a liar and don’t understand your own “fizix”, or I am right, and you are too much of an egomaniac to admit that the 9000 physics calcs claims was PR bullshit, as well as Toyo tires involvement being nothing more than a sponsorship gig. If a real tire manufacturer was involved in the actual tire contact physics for the purpose of advancing simulation, the rollover that lead to the glitch would never have been possible.

    This is sad. GT2 outclasses this. Why would I have to defend glitches in GT5? I don’t care about the car spinning on its nose, that is obviously not an intended effect. I was discussing the rollover that lead to the glitch. Bonafide proof of FM3′s Arcade limitations, and lack of realistic physics.

    The only similar glitch I experienced in any GT game was GT1, if you bought a used 93 civic, maxed out weight reduction, put the best tires on it, and stiffened the suspension enough, the car would tip and ride on its sidewalls everytime you tried to make a turn.

    That was GT1. They figured it out by GT2. I can honestly say I have no recollection of any other glitches in the GT series. There is a reason Kaz is touted as such a perfectionist. I am confident that I won’t have to defend any glitches in GT5, but that is moot anyway, as the point of my post was the physics, not the glitches.

    This is a brand new Arcade Racer in 2009, exhibiting a physics error that was corrected in the GT series over a decade ago.

    Amateur, and officially off my list as a possible reason to buy a 360.

  35. JofaMang:

    “jofa – how heavy does a car have to be to not be able to flip? GT5 must have some really, really heavy cars….oooo…teh realism….lmao..

    out for the weekend. later!”

    Hey, i though that was YOUR FUCKING REAL LIFE JOB to know that weight itself is not the lone factor, but the centre of gravity created by the distribution of the weight in the vehicle. You are a fucking lame ass troll liar. I think my Jim Beam jokes are 10x closer to reality than anything you have spewed. I am done with you, I had taken the bait in the past after saying that, but you just gave me all the proof I need to know that you aren’t worth another second of my time.

    Happy Trolling!

  36. kev:

    roca – failed? sorry, but cars do flip in Forza 3…they don’t in GT5… ouch..

    jofa- thanks. you’ve added nothing since you’ve been here. cya round…

    you might want to do a search of the Nurb Glitch found GT4…. it literally eats your car into the track.. .yet you ps3 fanboys claim GT is the pinnacle of simulations…lmao…

    ” can honestly say I have no recollection of any other glitches in the GT series.”

    this is why you’re a joke….

    it’s even funnier when you consider the Nurb’s real life track record has been beaten by almost a minute, using GT4…. wow…”reality”..lol…

  37. kev:

    jofa – “Why haven’t you answered my any of my questions? Either your silence is proof that you are a liar and don’t understand your own “fizix”, or I am right, and you are too much of an egomaniac to admit that the 9000 physics calcs claims was PR bullshit, as well as Toyo tires involvement being nothing more than a sponsorship gig”

    i’ve answered all of those, only to have you ignore the facts and run away.. begone trollboy… sim racing is over your head…

    tell Toyo tires their inclusion of the tire physics engine (yes, forza has a separate physics engine just for tires) is PR b.s… As professional automotive engineers i’m sure they’ll clear their throats before laughing you out of the room…. lmao..

    the reality is; FM3 is the pinnacle. Will GT5 compete…? only time will tell..but not looking good…sorry..

  38. kev:

    jofa – “exhibiting a physics error that was corrected in the GT series over a decade ago.”

    NO gt game has ever had damage or flip and vault capabilities… LMAO..

    noobies…. i love them so.. lol

  39. RobertCarr316:

    @everyone GT is the better car sim it’s fact many racers have come out and said that it’s the best so stop trying to make it out to be worse also I really hate Turn 10 they are so arrogant

  40. Ivan_PSP:

    Forza Motorsport 3 is an epic failure haha lmfao. I will be waiting for the king of racing games Gran Turismo The Real Driving Simulator.

    Some of my favorite PS3 exclusives released and awaiting to be released.

    UNCHARTED 2: Among Thieves
    UNCHARTED: Drake’s Fortune
    Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction
    Ratchet & Clank Future: Quest for Booty
    Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack In Time
    Demon’s Souls
    Ninja Gaiden Sigma
    Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2
    God Of War Collection
    MAG
    Resistance: Fall Of Man
    Resistance 2
    Killzone 2
    Warhawk
    Heavenly Sword
    MotorStorm: Pacific Rift
    inFAMOUS
    LittleBigPlanet
    Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
    Heavy Rain
    The Agency
    God of War III
    The Last Guardian
    AGENT
    ModNation Racers
    Quantum
    Ridge Racer 7
    EyePet
    Valkyria Chronicles
    White Knight Chronicles

  41. JofaMang:

    I like sammiches!

  42. RobertCarr316:

    Oh great…..IT’S ON LIST WAR…..LIST WAR EVERYONE BRING YOUR LISTS ITS ANOTHER LIST WAR also Ivan you said you hated ninja gaiden but it’s there on your list :p

  43. Happyhockum:

    JofaMang

    Surely you know all about how a huge range of the cars behaviour in Forza 3 can be turned off, down or up?

    You can indeed use the game like an Arcade game – if that is what rocks your world or how you prefer to get into a racing game – you can also make the necessary changes to use it as an accurate sim.

    The choice is yours.

    …..and you have no idea how relevant and honest that glitch shown was.

    Mike says he’s playing the game “like a madman” and has been unable to replicate that little display.

    So, you’re happy to write off entirely one of the year’s biggest games cos someone (unknown) put up a funny little YouTube?
    Seriously?

  44. kev:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgcA7N8xJZ8

    Happy – let’s see what he has to say about this video of GT4…. and the disappearing car….

    *waits for lame PS3 fanboy excuse*

  45. Ivan_PSP:

    LoL kev likes to compare GT4 to FM3 can’t to see what game his going to put against the soon to be leader of racing games Gran Turismo 5 again.

  46. Happyhockum:

    Ivan

    As if anyone cares what a lying fool thinks.

  47. JofaMang:

    @HH

    As I said repeatedly to whatshisface, the glitch doesn’t bother me, the ability to roll a car entirely on it’s tire contact patch is what bothers me. I’ll admit, I got on that little diatribe without consideration for the realism settings that were being used in the making of the video, but the fact that the game includes in its mechanics (regardless of realism settings) this type of oldschool, low tech physics response, means that time has been spent on developing the title outside of simulation parameters.

    If I was to buy FM3 for simulation purposes, I wouldn’t get a discount for never using silly arcade settings. I’ll stick to a game that from the beginning 12+ years ago, was motivated by achieving as close to perfection as is possible within a console racing simulation. I know I won’t have to make excuses for it, that there is no risk on my end of not getting my money’s worth.

    If another game motivates me to buy a 360, then I might get this title, as I did have fun with the limited time I spent with the demo. But as a reason for me to spend money on another console, it has failed. That might change with an amazing experience with the full game, but I doubt it.

  48. CON:

    I thought it quite a funny glitch actually but glad to see the ps3 fanboys are outraged and up in arms about it lol.

    @IVAN

    You’ve been proven a complete liar this week and yet to explain urself about ur comments about having 500gb ssd back in June when it isn’t even out now. Surprised you have even been showing ur face in here for the past few days.

  49. CAD:

    that’s a lot more than can be said about GT5 and their arcade, bumpercar, physics… that’s for sure…

    Now that is the truth!! Fora an Arcade? Well we now knows who knows nothing about racers. Yes that is you Jofamang.

  50. CAD:

    Yet pro race car drivers say the physics is very precise and that it feels like the real thing.

  51. Ivan_PSP:

    Hey guys here looks at this awesome stuff/news coming out.

    God Of War III Ultimate Edition Revealed And Priced
    psxextreme.com/ps3-news/6053.html

    SkyTV Coming To PS3 Confirmed
    ps3center.net/news/3979/skytv-coming-to-ps3-confirmed/

    Resistance and Killzone 3 Saving Sony’s 2010 Holiday
    ps3center.net/news/3914/resistance-and-killzone-3-saving-sonys-2010-holiday/

    For Xbox 360 lovers
    dtheatre.com/Xbox360Fixer/

    27 Million sold Xbox 360 31 Million closing the gap really fast according to spong.
    news.spong.com/article/19624/PS3-Sales-Now-at-27-Million

    bestsyndication.com/?q=20091028_xbox_360_red_ring_of_death.htm

  52. CAD:

    Wow Forza even hit the top 10 in Japan.

  53. CAD:

    Wow if Sky comes to the PS3 well there is another Copy from Sony. God I have no respect for them.

  54. Happyhockum:

    Now he’s been busted for the lying shill he is Ivan is left with nothing else but spamming his Sony ads and his out-dated & deliberately cherry-picked pro PS3 propaganda.

    Until he’s banned.
    He called for it for others often enough I reckon it’s time his viral shilling a$$ was kicked.

    Surely this sort of advertising spam is against the rules here?

  55. The Future of Sega:

    I’m sick of this exclusive shit! I thought that the Ballad of Gay Tony would be on PS3. Oh well….FUCK Rockstar.

    I won’t be buying another rockstar game for a loooooong time….Anywho…

  56. The Future of Sega:

    Happy, who are you talking about? Ivan? Roca? I’m confused. What happened?

  57. The Future of Sega:

    Hey Rockstar, do us a favor, and DON’T EXIST!!! Fucken sellouts…..How DARE you leave your loyal Sony fans out in the cold!!!! Shame on you for that.

  58. Happyhockum:

    Sega

    You really have to ask?

    That advertising spamming pr!ck Ivan (and any of his other sad log-ins).

  59. Ivan_PSP:

    The Future of Sega:
    All 2 DLC are only for Xbox 360 because Microsoft paid Take Two Interactive 50 Million dollars half the cost for the entire GTA IV game.

    AGENT the new Rockstar Games series coming soon exclusively to the PlayStation 3 computer entertainment console. rockstargames.com/agent/

    While meeting up with Tony and Yusuf in the park after killing Bulgarin, Luis knocks a hobo into a trash can, and the hobo realizes after Luis leaves that there are two million dollars worth of diamonds on the ground next to the trash bag he fell on, the same diamonds that once belonged to Ray Bulgarin. It’s later revealed in the news that the once homeless man moves to Vice City, and in the credits, Packie McReary is also seen leaving Liberty City, on a plane headed to either Vice City or San Andreas.

  60. CarlB:

    “How DARE you leave your loyal Sony fans out in the cold!!!!”

    They didn’t get “second jobs” to immediately close the 7M gap. Hmmm. Potentially an added 7 million to market to… 7M x $20 = $14,000,000. Of course they probably won’t make anywhere near that in actual sales, but still. Not to mention the fact that Microsoft just paid for exclusive content that was practically guaranteed to be a hit from the start instead of buying out several more entire existing studios and rolling the dice (glad Sony did this with Naughty Dog btw, turned out to be a relative jackpot for them, too bad they won’t be able to make multiplats anymore so more gamers can enjoy their excellent titles though).

  61. CarlB:

    Sorry, $140,000,000. My bad.

  62. Roca.:

    funny how Happy doesnt have any straws left

    all you have left is accused others of uses multiple IDs…until you can prove it..you can STFU

  63. CON:

    until you can prove it..?

  64. CarlB:

    “all you have left is accused others of uses multiple IDs…until you can prove it..you can STFU”

    Ivan has had several log-ins here in the past and has admitted as much openly.

  65. Spideydog:

    Been away for a while and I see the same arguments.

    ROFLMAO.

    G’Day boys/gals ;)

  66. CarlB:

    SPIDEY!!! We missed you! Now… where’s darkwhitehair?

  67. harry sachz:

    haha I remember the Fallen_Angel fiasco.

    How you doing spidey? I”m up north at the moment also, Cairns. The bastards are making me work though.

  68. harry sachz:

    @ Roca,

    “I my experienced with the demo I had a car rolling on top of my hood for about 10 secs before it finally flew away”

    Strange, I thought you said that you no longer have a 360?

  69. CarlB:

    “8.7 software title attach rate”

    I think some of the main reasons why this may be so high in comparison to PS3 right now is the 360′s year head start, the price of many 360 games right now in comparison to PS3 games, and better marketing (though Sony has shown much improvement in this area within just the last year).

    The end result is the same no matter what the reasons, however it is enlightening to know one can buy about 5 titles with generally favorable reviews (75 or higher on Metacritic) for $10 each compared to 0 on PS3… at least here for quite some time:

    newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2083230516%204024&name=%240%20-%20%2410

  70. The Future of Sega:

    Happyhokum,
    Try not to let “them” get on your nerves. :P

    Ivan,
    YeaH and thats why I use to rant on Xbox 360 so much. Seriously that shows lack of talent and lack of confidence for any organization!!! JUST MAKE YOUR OWN GAMES!!! Everyone is happy. But NOOOOOO Microsoft just has to lock in so many exclusive bullshit deals!!

    And that PISSES me OFF!!! Excuse my anger but that makes me furious. Had I known that the 360 would be receiving these episodes I would’ve bought GTA 4 for my 360 instead. Corporate fuckbags…..

    Carl B
    “They didn’t get “second jobs” to immediately close the 7M gap. Hmmm. Potentially an added 7 million to market to… 7M x $20 = $14,000,000. Of course they probably won’t make anywhere near that in actual sales, but still. Not to mention the fact that Microsoft just paid for exclusive content that was practically guaranteed to be a hit from the start instead of buying out several more entire existing studios and rolling the dice (glad Sony did this with Naughty Dog btw, turned out to be a relative jackpot for them, too bad they won’t be able to make multiplats anymore so more gamers can enjoy their excellent titles though).”

    And who’s fault is that??? It’s not our fault that those idiots didn’t properly plan for future endeavors. And now because of their blatant STUPIDITY, gamers like ME are left COLD in the DARK!!! And I DON’T LIKE THAT!!!!! Which is why I say FUCK rockstar.

    And Ivan, I could give two shits less about ANY game Rockstar makes from now on! I refuse to buy anymore Rockstar games period.

  71. The Future of Sega:

    Hey Ivan/Roca,
    Seriously dude you need to cut the bullshit out. We all know that you’re Ivan PSP in disguised.

    “funny how Happy doesnt have any straws left

    all you have left is accused others of uses multiple IDs…until you can prove it..you can STFU”

    That right there gives it aaaall away pal :) . And dude, what is up with your broken grammar!??? Seriously it’s getting old and annoying. VERY ANNOYING! I know I may be a pest at times but I know how to conduct myself.

    And just as a heads up I got banned a while ago for doing the same CRAP that you’re doing now. So as a forewarning, cut the crap.

  72. ToshithegreaT:

    “Strange, I thought you said that you no longer have a 360?”

    @harry

    well he does have a 360, when he has to make a point, but it disappears, when u ask him for his GT.. lol

    and i m sure he played it/watched on his friends 360,

    - who previously was denied replacement, coz he misplaced his reciept..

    - who played halo odst and felt it was a rip off..

    - has already gotten rrod, and obviously is on a replacement..

  73. The Future of Sega:

    By the way, Mike, I think you should take a closer look at Con’s picture. I’m sure Gamerblorge considers that image disturbing.

  74. The Future of Sega:

    Images like that are unacceptable. That calls for an immediate ban.

  75. harry sachz:

    hahaha Toshi, consistency really isn’t his strong point.

  76. CarlB:

    “Images like that are unacceptable. That calls for an immediate ban.”

    Looks like it happened… what was it?

    “And who’s fault is that??? It’s not our fault that those idiots didn’t properly plan for future endeavors.”

    You could always just get the other console for it’s exclusive content like I did :)

  77. Ivan_PSP:

    The Future of Sega:
    Agree Microsoft needs a lot more developers they barely got any and the one they own are really pathetic. Also the one that actually was making decent games they left go. Also they should just buy EPIC GAMES so they can at least own the Gears of War IP because one that contract is over. I highly doubt EPIC GAMES is gonna leave that IP on Xbox 360 is all BUSINESS unless Microsoft pays them a little check to keep for a bit more like a whore.

    Also if you don’t buy anymore Rockstar Games you will be missing on AGENT and we all know Rockstar Games got talented visionary employees. I enjoy all their games well some more then other.

    I also agree with you Microsoft has no confidence in them it shows.

    Microsoft has enough money to buy timed exclusives and DLC that ends on PS3 anyways. It would be better for them to just buy IP or new studios or just try to make new IP themselves like Sony has been doing since PS1. If you ever want to see major confidence look no further then Sony. And I’m not just saying that they have proven to succeed at what they do.

  78. CON:

    @IVAN

    Exibit A (11th Aug 2009) –

    gamer.blorge.com/2009/08/11/best-xbox-live-arcade-games-of-2009/

    Exibit B (17th june 2009) –

    gamer.blorge.com/2009/06/17/ps3-is-obviously-superior-to-the-xbox-360-from-a-technical-standpoint/

    Just to remind you Ivan you’ve yet to explain how you had 500GB SSD back in June when it isn’t even out now. What a pathetic loser you are.

    Gonna keep posting this until I get an answer ;)

  79. ToshithegreaT:

    Just to remind you Ivan you’ve yet to explain how you had 500GB SSD back in June when it isn’t even out now. What a pathetic loser you are.

    Gonna keep posting this until I get an answer

    @CON

    You will get the fanboy reply/name calling/petty insults/WHATEVER !!

    but “NOT” the answer

  80. Happyhockum:

    Hey spidey, been a while, keeping alright?

    Roca
    Your lying idiot alter-ego has started simply advertising.
    That’s got nothing to do with me and is certainly against the rules & deserving of a ban.

    Poking a stick over that 500gb SSD BS is also fully deserved.

  81. Roca.:

    HArry (my no.1 fan)

    I played the demo at a Gamestop at Downtown Boston. want the address and phone number so you dig deeper and prove it for your self. (keep it up my No.1 fan)

  82. ToshithegreaT:

    “I played the demo at a Gamestop at Downtown Boston. want the address and phone number so you dig deeper and prove it for your self. (keep it up my No.1 fan)”

    @all

    It wud be better if we dont respond to ppl who have crebility left whatsoever.. Hardly any 360 user here falsely claims to have played a ps3 game/ or their friends have played this/that game..

    “the video look pretty real to me. I my experienced with the demo I had a car rolling on top of my hood for about 10 secs before it finally flew away”

    @roca

    My advice to u wud be to stop lying abt 360 games,

    1. its funny whenever there is a news abt @rrod,

    well ur friend got a rrod..

    2. If there is a report abt halo odst being an over-priced expansion,

    Well ur friend who got it, felt it was a rip off..

    3. when there is a news abt forza 3 having some glitch,

    U claim to have played the demo and experienced a glitch as well..

    Dude its quite sad, that u have to piss on ur competitors console to make ur console look good,
    seriously dude, if ps3 has to win this gen, it will have to win on its merits rather than highlighting 360′s demerits..

    if u ll go on like this, then sadly many ppl here will have to teach u, by coming down to ur level and “TRUST ME”, its something u wont like..

  83. Happyhockum:

    They are obviously shills Toshi.

    They have even claimed to be here ‘influencing people’…..they really are that sad & pathetic.

    You’re 100% correct, from posting lists of Sony products to never ever doing anything but bash Xbox and talk up PS3 it’s pretty damned obvious what they are about.

  84. JofaMang:

    Hey, I’m no shill…

    …. I’m Batman

  85. Roca.:

    @ toshi

    stop reaching and stop harassing me (there aint any cute dudes in India)

    1- one of my friends had replace 2 elites already, my other friend went through 5 360s until finally decided not to bother any more any stay with his launch PS3. and recently another friend (who hardly play any games just Fifa, PES and L4D) got the RRoD on his out of warranty system (then traded all his 360 games for Fifa 2010 and more PS3 games) is not my problem if you think the 360 is the best built console ever

    2- oh please. you just want my attention.. even most reviews end with “not enough to justified a $60 price tag” for HALO 3: ODST

    3- I never said I experienced a Glitch while playing the forza demo…it was just the Forza physics that makes cars bounce and jump (Jofa surly noticed the same)

    its quite sad that you said you have an MBA but have a brain of a feminine teenager. sorry if you cant believe I have more friends that own a 360. but they are each slowly making the transition to the PS3 (for obvios reasons)

    I wouldnt want to be at your level harassing ppl and recording everything they post…get a life dude

  86. ToshithegreaT:

    @happy
    “Influencing people”

    lol

    @roca

    sure, dude, now u r pointing out that i am a gay.. nice..
    sure u are more credible now..

    Dude stop lying, the day u made that point that ur fiend was denied 360 rrod replacement coz he lost his reciept and CON caught u out lying and correcting u that they ask for ur serial no instead of reciept no, is the day u r caught out lying.. Its funny that some other ps3 users (users and not fanboys) never do that thing..

    Anyways as i said if it makes u justify ur 600$ paperweight then, fine go on..

  87. Ivan_PSP:

    What a dumb ass…

    Roca.:
    Why do you even bother talking to this morons. They are on pure denial i bet if Microsoft releases a Barbie game they will say is the greatest game ever made.

  88. ToshithegreaT:

    “I wouldnt want to be at your level harassing ppl and recording everything they post…get a life dude”

    Again roca, if i know i am not wrong, i wont worry abt someone recording everything ex@ple “milking frachises” quote, i knew what i had said and what i didnt..

  89. Roca.:

    sure ur never wrong… most ppl with a MBA arent ;)

  90. ToshithegreaT:

    I may make a mistake, but atleast i wont lie abt ps3 to make 360 look good..

  91. ToshithegreaT:

    “most ppl with a MBA arent ”

    atleast in my opinion, they are better than those working at Statestreet.. :)

  92. Roca.:

    “atleast in my opinion, they are better than those working at Statestreet..”

    key words : “they are” which mean you not included…which mean you a lying fanboy trying to pretend something you are not. you didnt see that coming, did you (maybe if you just had an MBA you would act like one)

    BTW God of War 3 demo…good stuff there. (it looks way better then Uncharted 2)

  93. Ivan_PSP:

    Roca.:
    I saw the demo looks perfect can’t wait to play it. I hope we get online for GOW3.

  94. harry sachz:

    @ roca,

    “stop reaching and stop harassing me”

    “Its quite sad that you said you have an MBA but have a brain of a feminine teenager.”

    You typed both of these sentences in the same post. So basically you want Toshi to stop ‘harassing’ you, but on the same token you find it perfectly acceptable to call him names?

    Grow up, idiot.

    In saying that, I think I’ll take Toshi’s advice and just ignore him. Perhaps if we stop feeding the troll he’ll go away.

  95. ToshithegreaT:

    “lying fanboy”

    @roca

    i dont think MBA has anything to do with gaming, I think u are confusing “Masters in Business Administration” with “Masters of Bullshitting Administration”..

    BTW i m sure god of war 2 looks nice and will be a good game.. :)

  96. ToshithegreaT:

    @harry

    My thoughts exactly..
    I am already tired of his and his friends experiences with 360 and its exclusive games..

  97. Roca.:

    well then why dont you stick with you business since you just dont know anything about gaming (your pathethic ass just started gaming and you think you a gamer just bacuse you play HALO lol)

    @Harry,

    “just ignore him. Perhaps if we stop feeding the troll he’ll go away.”

    we were doing that to you, buy your sorry ass keep coming back. I wonder why it hurts you so much when I call names to you of your beloved xbot. gang up guys, gang up.

    both of you get a room and Harry please go away forever this time and grow up. (no wonder they banned you from a FREE service. fucking idiot)

  98. Roca.:

    this make me laugh how you guys got each other’s back…..so cute ;)

  99. SW:

    ‘…. I’m Batman’

    But you’re Keaton batman.

    I’m Bale batman.

  100. CarlB:

    “your pathethic ass just started gaming and you think you a gamer”

    Out of curiosity, when did you start gaming Roca?

  101. Roca.:

    my first console was a Atari 2600, since then I have had, Sega Genesis, Sega Saturn, Dreamcast, NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube, Gameboy, Gameboy advance, DS, DS lite, Game Gear, etc. I also manage to get a hold of a Apple(namco) Pipin for a while (it was a failure though, hard to find games for it)

    as you can see I play almost every game from every genre. and I have a huge collection of games/console. I have about 50 PS3 game and 25 PSN games. I play alot of RPG on my DS lite and PSP. I still go back and play Chrono Trigger on the SNES and Mystical Ninja Goemon on the N64 (great game btw but rare as shit)

    why the curiosity though?

  102. Roca.:

    SW,

    I sent you the MAG beta Code through your Blorge.net account via a PM

  103. CarlB:

    No no… I meant what year did you start gaming.

  104. Roca.:

    idk remember the exact year but it was in the late 80′s

  105. CarlB:

    “your pathethic ass just started gaming and you think you a gamer”

  106. Ivan_PSP:

    I started gaming in 1998 when i was 11 years old exclusively on PlayStation. Ever sense that time i have been a loyal fan/advertiser/helper.

    PLAYSTATION 3 “PS3 it only does EVERYTHING”
    PlayStation Portable Go “Is GO Time”
    PlayStation 2 “Live In Your World, Play In Ours”

    I’m not as old as you old are i bet.

  107. CarlB:

    “your pathethic ass just started gaming and you think you a gamer” !

    lol… just kidding. Though I’ve been a “gamer” since 1977, I personally believe it doesn’t matter how old you are or how many consoles you’ve owned or how many games you have played or how long you have been gaming, as long as you currently enjoy a game or games for the unique experience they provide you are a officially a “gamer”. If you tout one single branded console as superior or says it does “EVERYTHING” and repeat PR hype you are a officially a “fanboy”.

  108. Roca.:

    wtf what year were you born?

  109. Ivan_PSP:

    Roca.:
    LoL, i guess CarlB is in the late 30s or 40s. I know a lot of SOCOM players in 30s 40s and a lot on 50.

    PLAYSTATION 3 “PS3 it only does EVERYTHING”
    PlayStation Portable Go “Is GO Time”
    PlayStation 2 “Live In Your World, Play In Ours”
    ivan_network.webs.com/

  110. ToshithegreaT:

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/30/ge_holography/

    http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=90812

  111. CarlB:

    “wtf what year were you born?”

    lol… 1973.

  112. Ivan_PSP:

    CarlB:
    Your ancient damn wow i guess old people do still love video games. JK LoL… I’ll be PlayStation buyer and gamer until Sony decides to stop making them. Since i consider myself immortal.

  113. Spideydog:

    HH, CarlB and Harry (sorry of missed anyone, I just skimmed through these gems … lol) Cheers, good to be back. Yes I’m still in remote NT Harry. My lappy HD died and needed to be sent off for warranty. But I’m back baby !!!! YEAH. Cairns is a nice spot, had family there.

    I’m not entering this Sh%&fight, not car racing fan I’m afraid. I am currently enjoying Uncharted 2 and Op Flashpoint 2. Played and finished KZ2. It is at times frustrating and very short, but looks very pretty. Oh and I got a PS3 slim (so the missus could keep the 60gig ps3 in the loungeroom as the blu-ray player and I could take the slim to the NT)

    I did honestly consider the similar priced xbox elite pack (and yes, I did honestly SERIOUSLY consider it) But 2 things and two things only swayed me. 1. Blu-ray 2. AT THIS TIME, better outlook on games I currently like.

    This is just a personal take on the recent decision I made and is NOT a hack on 360. I was a bees dick away from getting the elite.

    Anyways, happy gaming everyone. Talk soon on another thread dudes ;)

  114. Spideydog:

    1973 ….. Pffft, still a baby ;)

  115. oldschool1987:

    @ Kev:

    I lost track of how many times you said the words ‘Fan Boys’

    Your EASILY the biggest and most pathetic fanboy on here, bar none.

    Also to say I’m a PS3 fanboy is just retards, I have both consoles and they both get played on enough.

    Your a pathetic little boy who needs to be doing his homework instead of coming on here and acting like a little bitch.

  116. oldschool1987:

    Right I’ve been doing this a lot lately because I’m a retard but I need to correct a sentence lol:

    ‘Also to say I’m a PS3 fanboy is just retarded’*

    Need to start checking over shit before I post it, but that child Kev winds me up.

  117. harry sachz:

    @ Toshi,

    I find it funny how he uses the ‘no i’m not, you are’ defence. For example, I mention how I hope ignoring him goes away, and he sends a post telling me to go away. Big points for originality there.

    Another classic was this line;

    “this make me laugh how you guys got each other’s back…..so cute “. If I recall, I am sure he and Ivan have e-fellated each other on many occasions. Again, he seems to forget his own actions when pointing the finger at others.

    @ SW,

    At least he isn’t Val Kilmer Batman.

    @ Spidey,

    Yeah, it’s as humid as a fuck up here, and the air conditioning is pretty crappy, but i’ll live. I didn’t bring anything up with me except for my 500gb por…. erm movie drive.

  118. harry sachz:

    heh and telling me to grow up, why, I believe that you’re repeating what I said to you… again.

    Anyway, back on topic, I bought Forza 3 when it came out last Friday. Only really had about 30 minutes or so to play with it, but it’s an awesome game. I am looking forward to racing the V8 Supercars.

  119. Roca.:

    Harry is like Hemorrhoids….a PITA that never goes away.

    Harry :”I find it funny how he uses the ‘no i’m not, you are’ defence. For example, I mention how I hope ignoring him goes away, and he sends a post telling me to go away. Big points for originality there.”

    I just use the same lame comments be making to reply ur lame posts.

    oh really…when did I “send” you I post? I dont even know in which Cave in AUS you live at to send you stuff

  120. Roca.:

    meant to say:
    I just use the “same” lame comments/words you be making to reply to ur lame posts.

    too bad they dont ban ppl here for stupidity like they do in Home (great experience huh)

  121. ToshithegreaT:

    “I find it funny how he uses the ‘no i’m not, you are’ defence. For example, I mention how I hope ignoring him goes away, and he sends a post telling me to go away. Big points for originality there.

    Another classic was this line;

    “this make me laugh how you guys got each other’s back…..so cute “. If I recall, I am sure he and Ivan have e-fellated each other on many occasions. Again, he seems to forget his own actions when pointing the finger at others.”

    @lol
    i have been noticing it too, to his credit, he has some of the lamest comebacks ever..
    for eg..

    few days back CARLB wrote

    “If the shoe fits, wear it”..

    now we have roca who posted something like this today/yesterday(dont actually remember”

    “If the hat fits, feel free to wear it”

    lol lol lol

  122. Roca.:

    “now we have roca who posted something like this today/yesterday(dont actually remember””

    lol what an idiot by saying that when I just admited that I use the same lines you guys use (so I can be a your level) to reply to your lame ass comments.

    dig deeper next time (my no.1 fanboy)

    lol lol lol <– see I did it again, I used the same lame laugh as you. if this is bothering you then TOO BAD!

  123. ToshithegreaT:

    “lol what an idiot by saying that when I just admited that I use the same lines you guys use (so I can be a your level) to reply to your lame ass comments”

    @troll

    dude seriously, u r coming off as an idiot there, not me.. u seriously have some comprehension issue, where in my post, am i trying to prove that u were lying ??

    Ur reply wud have been appropriate if i was denying it, but thats not the case, actually i m noding in agreement, with him and giving him another eg, which i just noticed BTW..

    “dig deeper next time (my no.1 fanboy)”

    Well why wud i dig deeper, when u are actually admitting that to ur credit, u have some of the lamest comebacks ever.. lol lol lol (repeat this laugh again and prove my point.. he he)

  124. Roca.:

    ““now we have roca who posted something like this today/yesterday(dont actually remember”””

    you said I basically dont remember I do that (I use ur lines and I do remember do it, and I just admited befire to started sayin I dont remember doing it)

    “Well why wud i dig deeper,”

    because you keep track of everything I say, Do you follow me on twitter too?

  125. ToshithegreaT:

    @roca
    by saying that i (dont remember actually), i meant that i was not sure when did u posted that comment “if the hat fits, feel free to wear it”,

    today or yesterday i was not sure abt that..

  126. ToshithegreaT:

    @roca

    i can see, anybody wud have misquoted it, so its my fault sry..

  127. SW:

    ‘At least he isn’t Val Kilmer Batman.’

    Pshh, he’s George Clooney batman!

  128. Roca.:

    Go Yankees!

  129. harry sachz:

    “oh really…when did I “send” you I post? I dont even know in which Cave in AUS you live at to send you stuff”

    Oh I see, he’s trying to berate Australians. Thumbs up for racism!

  130. ToshithegreaT:

    @harry,
    I m from India, and its funny he did something that to me too, its funny, nobody here takes action against this guy

  131. Roca.:

    harry

    soooo there arent any caves in Aus?? is that what your saying?

  132. harry sachz:

    Toshi, whereabouts are you in India? I went to Delhi for work last year and took a day trip to the Taj Mahal. The pictures and what you see on TV don’t do it justice, it’s something that you have to see with your own eyes.

    Roca,

    That’s not what you were saying at all, you racist little bigot.

  133. harry sachz:

    @ Toshi,

    The only people who have had action taken against them were CAD for calling Mike names and Future Of Sega for being just a little too passionate in his posts hehe. However it seems that individuals who berate other countries/races and others who openly promote piracy seem to carry on unscathed.

  134. harry sachz:

    @ Toshi,

    If you were wondering who it was that sent you a friend request last week on Xbox live, it was me.

  135. Roca.:

    CON, CAD and you have make racist comment towards Ivan for being Hispanic/Dominican and yet nothing happens to any of you.

    SO according to you, what was I really saying? is cave a racist thing in your cuontry? thats a pretty normal word here.

  136. oldschool1987:

    LMAO people are so easily offended these days. No one can take a joke anymore without being called racist. Worlds gone soft.

  137. ToshithegreaT:

    @harry

    ya dude i have added you, i knew it might be u, funny GT really, ha ha

    BTW Harry, i live in Delhi.. :)

  138. Spideydog:

    Harry said: “I didn’t bring anything up with me except for my 500gb por…. erm movie drive.”

    It will drop off harry !!!!

    Roca, Hope your not using wifi (built into your ps3)???? It was designed and invented by a “cave dwelling” Australian company. That “little” invention is reaping millions in royalties.

  139. Roca.:

    ohh wow,

    Spidey really? my bad if I offended any Australian citizen, i didnt mean it that way, and I didnt know Cave is a racist/bad thing to say over there.

    if I could only edit my comment to like this (without the word “Aus” in it) :
    “oh really…when did I “send” you a post? I dont even know in which Cave you live at to send you stuff”

    I only mentioned AUS because thats the only thing I know about Harry. if I wanted to ofend him I will do it in different ways ;)

    and yes I use Wifi…as long as it wasnt invented by Harry, I’m good :)

  140. JofaMang:

    Wow, calling someone a cave dweller is not a racist remark, it is very common in NA culture that calling someone a cavedweller is making fun of their lack of tech, or tech knowhow, amongst us elitist asshole enthusiasts. Seriously, just a culture difference, not bigotry. Get off your high horses, heh.

  141. oldschool1987:

    Well said Jofa. The worlds gone pussy ass soft.

  142. Spideydog:

    We collectively got called a “cave dweller” I retorted…… I don’t see the issue. If he can have a dig, so can I !!!!

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