Microsoft transitioning Halo to internal team from Bungie

November 7, 2009

Microsoft transitioning Halo to internal team from Bungie Microsoft created 343 Industries, a new internal studio. This studio will be handling future Natal projects and also take over the development efforts of Halo games. According to a new job posting, it seems like Microsoft is ramping up to work on a new Halo game internally.

Since Halo: Reach will be Bungie’s last Halo game for Microsoft, 343 Industries was created to take over this job. The studio was named after an annoying character in the Halo game. This studio will apparently also work on Natal projects.

This new studio will most likely come under Peter Molyneux’s care as he is heading up all things Natal. Peter Molyneux was recently promoted to Creative Director of Microsoft Game Studios.

All of this came to light in a recent job posting discovered by Hot Blooded Gaming, which revealed that Microsoft is ramping up resources to work on a new Halo and Natal project. This new Halo game will undoubtedly be the first non-Bungie developed Halo FPS game. It will be interesting to see if 343 Industries can fill Bungie’s gigantic shoes.



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125 Responses to “Microsoft transitioning Halo to internal team from Bungie”

  1. Ivan_PSP:

    WTF Microsoft can’t make anything but Halo wow Xbox 360 will never see anything new other then a rehash Halo game. This just proves again that Sony has more talent then Microsoft, because they make new IP plus continues other and they are all very successful. And Fable is one of the most boring game i have ever played.

  2. CAD:

    Halo is an amazing game. If you don’t want to acknowledge that well that is just to bad Ivan. That is what makes great systems they have characters you can identify with. Nintendo has Mario and the gang and Microsoft has Halo and Gears. Sony has who? I guess it’s sackboys job now as I don’t know anything memorable character that came over from the PS2 that exsist on the PS3 today.

  3. RobertCarr316:

    @cad
    Um kratos and solid snake which are to of the best game characters ever and ps3 has uncharted 2 and littlebigplanet as their flagship titles which are rated higher then any other xbox exclusive on metacritic

  4. RobertCarr316:

    *which are two

    GOD damn iPod keeps changing my words >:(

  5. oldschool1987:

    ‘Sony has who?’

    Typical fanboy comment their CAD and you normally do so well. I think Sony have more mascots than the 360! Drake, Ratchet and Clank, Kratos, Snake, Sackboy, Crash Bandicoot (remember you said Sony and not PS3), The Helghast, Abe(It was Munch on 360)Jak and Daxter, do you want me to go on?

    Just because Ivan says a stupid comment about Halo which we all know ain’t true don’t mean you have to sink to his level and say something as retarded as that.

    The fact is Sony DO have more mascots than Microsoft so stop with the fanboy-ism, it’s not big and it’s not clever lmao.

  6. Kevo/Sir_Chubs_Alot08:

    SONY HAS SWEET TOOTH BITCH (man i want a twisted metal game on ps3 soon!)

  7. Kevo/Sir_Chubs_Alot08:

    i wonder if we’ll see another odd world game also…man u can’t beat the ps1 classics!

  8. Happyhockum:

    Cue another Xbox thread hijacked by the PS3 fanclub moaning about how they don’t like Halo and PR’ing how amazing the PS3 and it’s games are.

    Boring.

  9. ToshithegreaT:

    “@cad
    Um kratos and solid snake which are to of the best game characters ever and ps3 has uncharted 2 and littlebigplanet as their flagship titles which are rated higher then any other xbox exclusive on metacritic”

    Robert, i hape u are talking abt Xbox 360 and xbox franchise, coz i think Halo 1 is the highest rated exclusive game ever..

    http://www.joystickdivision.com/2009/10/ten_worst_console_games.php

  10. ToshithegreaT:

    i meant u r talking abt xbox 360 and not the Xbox franchise

  11. Spideydog:

    I could do with another Halo, I’m not ashamed to say ;) But not a lame expansion pack for the price of a full game

    I could also do with another Twisted Metal game ….. it was the shiz !!

  12. ToshithegreaT:

    Halo 1 along with Super Mario Galaxy

  13. Roca.:

    SWEET TOOTH is the shit

    Zelda OoT is the Highest Rated.

    Halo one is not a exclusive..its available for PC. awesome.!!!

  14. oldschool1987:

    Oh and wheres FF7 in all this?

  15. RobertCarr316:

    @toshi
    I’m talking about this gen :D

  16. RobertCarr316:

    Also I know mario galaxy is the highest rated game this gen but I’m not including the Wii cause I don’t think anyone cares :D

  17. Roca.:

    between 360 and PS3

    Highest rated exclusive is Uncharted 2 (96) follow by LBP (95)

    Kratos and Sweet Tooth are the shit. (both created by david jeffe)

  18. Saber_HAHAha:

    I want Halo Reach to be good. There is no way they could screw this up again. I want it to be up there with the first 2.

    How many internal studios does MS have anyways? Because almost all of their exclusives seem to be timed, or an IP that they bought.

    We need Rare to make multi-plat games (I know they’re owned by MS… but screw them). I want another true Banjo, and not to mention another Conker. Maybe some FPS to go along. When they did the N64, they were IMO better devs than Nintendo themselves…

  19. Roca.:

    I know MS wants to push the NATAL, so Halo reach is more than like to use it…I wonder now why its called “reach”

  20. ToshithegreaT:

    “Halo one is not a exclusive..its available for PC. awesome.!!!”

    Are u sure abt it,

    Xbox and Games for windows come into MS teritory, Hence Exclusive..

  21. ToshithegreaT:

    Netflix was available on other things too b4 xbox 360, still it was considered to be exclusive to xbox 360, same way if its aint on Sony or nitendo, its MS exclusive, no matter how much u wanna spin on it..

  22. ToshithegreaT:

    People usually go like they “Hey, woah i m gonna get that for pc yeah”

    Wheather u get it for 360 or pc (from steam), u r paying MS, its their exclusive..

  23. ToshithegreaT:

    well when a game like mass effect is given 54 out of 100, its surprising that its still above 90′s in metacritic..

  24. Roca.:

    the point is that Halo 1 is not a exclusive no matter which way you look at it. I can play on my PC (and if I wanted to, I can play PC games through my PS3) Gears of War 1 is not a 360 exclusive, same for L4D)

    i know its games for windows are MS exclusive but their not XBOX 360 exclusive (as the logo says). once you are able to play on other console there is nothing exclusive about it

  25. ToshithegreaT:

    “Mass Effect feels like the first two acts of a great space opera, and the main villain and the most intriguing parts of the backstory have been saved for a sequel”

    @troll review

  26. ToshithegreaT:

    Gears of war 1, l4d, Halo 1 still are exclusive to microsoft platforms no matter how much u gonna spin it, these game sare not on sony/nintendo platforms, hence EXCLUSIVE..

  27. Roca.:

    we are not talking about MS platform… were talking about exclisive game for 360 (and Gears1, L4D are NOT)…you the “only on Xbox 360″ logo you on games like Ninja Gaiden II

    PC is not consider MS platform if you didnt know.

  28. ToshithegreaT:

    “Zelda OoT is the Highest Rated.” – Roca

    “Also I know mario galaxy is the highest rated game this gen but I’m not including the Wii cause I don’t think anyone cares” – Robert

    @roca and Robert

    So zelda is the highest rated exclusive from Nintendo, when i said Halo 1 was the highest rated exclusive game,

    But super mario galaxy isnt counted coz its on Wii ???

    Guys who are we trying to fool here, why bother having a discusion, when ui gonna make everything into petty points scoring debates..

    u guys shud just say you win, ps3 wins, 360 is crap ie. like IVAN here, we wont even bother having a discussion..

    Why bother flipping a coin, wheather its head or tails, u will say u win..

    @roca

    when we all were discussing innovations by ms, sony on consoles, PC was not included, and suddenly its included when we are discussing abt 360 games, dude i will state it gain, if u dont get it, HALO, L4D, MASS EFFECT are console exclusive to 360 (atleast till now)

  29. The Future of Sega:

    Will you morons shut it up!!! My ggodness….Exclusive this…exclusive that…THE HELL WITH IT ALL!!! Anyways, is it just me or does the Halo series feel outdated now?

    I mean lets be honest here Halo 3 was just a reamped crystallized version of Halo 2 in all honesty. There were hardly ANY original concepts in the 3rd series of Halo. Now I’m not bashing Microsoft or Halo because personally I own all 3 games.

    But if Microsoft (or Bungee Jump) pulls some more crap like Halo ODST (a freaken expansion pack charged at full retail price) or tries to hash the next Halo game without original concepts like the first, then forget it.

    It’s been nice knowing the Halo series while it lasted. But I have an odd feeling that Halo Reach will absolutely KILL the Halo series for me for all eternity…..if it’s anything like Halo 3 or 2.

    Does the movie Mortal Kombat Annihilation ring a bell anyone? lol. Well actually I liked both Mortal Kombat movies. But i favor the first over the second.

  30. Roca.:

    im pretty sure we included PC.

    Zelda OoT is the Highest Rated game ever, and also Highest rated exclusive.

    between PS3 and 360 Uncharted just became the Highest rated game this gen.

    Halo is neither the highest rated game ever nor the highest rated exclusive (because its also available for PC)

    so who are you trying to fool

  31. Ghost:

    Kevo/Sir_Chubs_Alot08:
    “i wonder if we’ll see another odd world game also…man u can’t beat the ps1 classics!”

    Yeah actually they are redoing “abe and the gang” it should be available on the PSN real soon… It would be pretty cool if they made a next gen “twisted metal” also I think… Sure they could redo the game but I would like a brand new one for twisted metal..

  32. Ivan_PSP:

    Hao 1 & 2 and Gears of War 1 plus Left 4 Dead are all on PC no need to own a Xbox 360 to play them free.

  33. Ghost:

    Roca:
    “I know MS wants to push the NATAL, so Halo reach is more than like to use it…I wonder now why its called “reach”

    You might be right but I kinda of doubt it…They probably wont be able to use Natal untill the new Halo (expansion..it will have maps tho lol) after reach comes out from the new M$ studio? If they do decide to release natal with reach it will most likely be buggy and full of glitches and quite possibly burn down your house…but that wont stop the followers from going back to the store and buying 10 more (back ups) with a smile on there face.

  34. harry sachz:

    @ Toshi,

    At least they haven’t hijacked this Xbox 360 thread by talking about Demon’s Souls again. It’s bound to happen soon though.

    Back on topic, I wonder if Bungie are going to be generous enough to hand over the code, engine etc to 343 once they officially hand it over? Also, I’d love to see what Bungie come up with next.

  35. Ivan_PSP:

    I wanna get into Demon’s Souls for the C0-Op looks fun.

  36. Roca.:

    “It’s bound to happen soon though.”

    you know it!!! ;)

  37. CON:

    Oh look it’s ivanroca.

    Halo is a fantastic franchise. Why all the hate from ps3 fanboys who don’t even play it anyway……except ivanroca of course who play it through their ps3 somehow lol

  38. Roca.:

    @ CON

    “except roca of course who play it through their ps3 somehow lol”

    I love making ppl feel stupid

    this is how you can play pc games on the PS3 (at least I could play halo 1, Gears 1 on the PS3):

    http://www.streammygame.com/smg/index.php

  39. The Future of Sega:

    Roca youre such a weiner.

  40. twilight:

    Microsoft needs to come up with something else besides Halo. There’s only so far you can continue to milk the same franchise over and over.

  41. The Future of Sega:

    I agree. Halo is an old fart now lol.

  42. The Future of Sega:

    They need to kill off Master Chief in the next Halo for their own good. After Reach…..NO MORE HALOS MICROSOFT!!!!!! pwned

  43. CarlB:

    “the point is that Halo 1 is not a exclusive no matter which way you look at it.”

    The point is it is a Microsoft exclusive which benefits their gaming division which can also benefit 360. The same could be said for Free Realms and Sony, that is if they ever release it for PS3 as well.

    Playing Dragon Age on 360 right now… just picked up the assassin from the Antigan Crows, Zevran. First time I heard his accent and I immediately thought: “My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.” haha… classic.

  44. CarlB:

    “Microsoft needs to come up with something else besides Halo.”

    It’s called Fable… and Gears of War… and Forza… and Mass Effect… and Left 4 Dead… and Dead Rising… yes they are still exclusive, for now. Maybe next year or after PS3 might get a couple.

    Has anybody here played Folklore? Good game?

  45. The Future of Sega:

    Its called….those games aren’t console sellers or add major signifigance to the 360 as Halo. Dude, those games are for hardcore nerds except Dead Rising. Dead Rising is sweet!

  46. Roca.:

    Folklore is a great game but its a game for everybody, read some reviews first and see if its your type of game

  47. The Future of Sega:

    Well im a huge fan for Oblivion.

  48. Kevo/Sir_Chubs_Alot08:

    @ ghost yea odd world is in the ps store right now. i would love for twisted metal to make llike a remake of both 3-4 with better graphics, 60fps and such…i would shit myself

  49. Ghost:

    hehehe Imagine a GT5 type of graphics and all those diff kind of cars to choose from…all done up twisted metal style…yep would def kick-butt…

  50. ToshithegreaT:

    “At least they haven’t hijacked this Xbox 360 thread by talking about Demon’s Souls again. It’s bound to happen soon though.”

    @harry

    let alone high jacking their threads, we hardly even diss their exclusives, but u can see the way they are taking potshots @halo, CARLB was right abt that article, if dissing on halo makes their 600$ machine look good, then good for them,

    And FTR payed expansions are anyday better than payed Demo’s..

  51. SW:

    DEMONS SOULS
    DEMONS SOULS
    DEMONS SOULS
    DEMONS SOULS
    DEMONS SOULS
    DEMONS SOULS

    Its a good job no one ever hijacks threads with GT5 bashing and Forza lovin’!

    Oh wait…

  52. Ivan_PSP:

    I liked Folklore expcet the stupid word cut scenes the game looks so beautiful and artistically well done.
    I might buy it for our $300 beast.

  53. ToshithegreaT:

    @SW

    let me correct it for ya

    Its a good job no one ever hijacks threads with GT5 bashing and Forza bashin’!

    Oh wait…

    Here ya go :)

  54. Ivan_PSP:

    I wanna get see Heavenly Sword with trophy and a sequel.

  55. harry sachz:

    @ Toshi,

    Indeed. Hey I noticed that you’ve been playing Lost Odyssey a bit lately. How far have you gone?

  56. Ivan_PSP:

    I want UNCHARTED 3 with this things and yes UNCHARTED 2 has many already we all know UNCHARTED is perfect but Naughty Dog always exceeds perfection.

    1080p

    60 fps

    At least 10 on 10 online competitive

    And in Co-Op at least 6 players

    With background music support

    Also Sixaxis and Dualshock 3 support

    And Twitter Facebook and Youtube integrated. Youtube to upload videos directly. A a video editing built-in software.

    A built in message Board

    Deeper stat trackings

    More guns and grenades

    Also more skin for players

    More online modes

    More maps

    Longer story like 15 hours long

    At least 45 minute more in cut scenes then U2

    Mods support

    Keyboard and again voice chat to chat online

    Offline multiplayer for up to 4 players

    PLAYSTATION Home support

    User created content

    Weather effects for online maps as optional

    No mandatory install

    I know most of this things are already in UNCHARTED 2: Among Thieves but i want them better i know is already perfect. UNCHARTED Rulez ALL.

    Release for fall 2010 or early 2011.

  57. harry sachz:

    @ Mike and Dave,

    What are the chances of getting blatant attempts of derailing a topic (i.e Ivan’s last post) deleted? It’s been pretty rife lately among some regular posters.

  58. Ivan_PSP:

    harry sachz:
    Are you afraid of Sony making the Xbox 360 the next Dreamcast LMFAO. Everyone talks about different unrelated topic so huch.

  59. Spideydog:

    No Ivan, your just being WAAAAAY over the top. Even the sony boys have had enough.

  60. Ghost:

    Hey man Halo is just Halo…I remember when the first one came out and my ex-girls brother had it and the shiny new x-box (he is another stubborn x-box fanboy marine, come to think about it I think he did some training in CA..CarlB do you train recruits and give them a choice to either buy X-boxes or get your boot in there asses :D )Anyway damn good game stayed up all day and night and beat it. What happen to the series after the first one I will never know, I haven’t played the third or the new expansion I mean the 4th hehe… but I did get to watch all the cut scenes in order from a guy who put them all together and made a kinda Halo movie..

  61. Ivan_PSP:

    Spideydog:
    Lying is never a good thing so stop doing it.

    I’m the PlayStation god.

    Ghost:
    Halo is just Halo so true a pathetic FPS that brings nothing new but crap. Xbots know the game is garbage they just on denial and can’t admit the game is trash. So they just keep playing it.

  62. ToshithegreaT:

    @ Toshi,

    Indeed. Hey I noticed that you’ve been playing Lost Odyssey a bit lately. How far have you gone?

    I have already completed the game 100% inc tresure trove cheevo :)

    I am Playing it again just for fun, till i get Dragon’s Age CE..

  63. ToshithegreaT:

    “the game is garbage they just on denial and can’t admit the game is trash. So they just keep playing it.”

    Are u talkin abt uncharted 2 ??

  64. Ivan_PSP:

    Uncharted 2 to be a unanimous competitor for “Game of the Year” with Uncharted 2 winning the most E3 awards of any game.

    * Game Critics Awards 2009
    o Best of Show
    o Best Console Game
    o Best Action/Adventure Game
    * Gamescom 2009 Awards
    o Best Console Game
    * IGN E3 2009 Awards
    o PS3 Game of Show
    o Best Overall Graphics Technology
    o Best PS3 Graphics Technology
    o Best PS3 Action Game
    o Best PS3 Multiplayer Experience
    o PS3 Achievement for Technical Excellence
    * IGN AU E3 2009 Awards
    o Best Game of E3
    * GameSpot E3 2009 Awards
    o Best Graphics
    o Best PS3 Game
    * 1Up.com E3 2009 Awards
    o Game of Show
    o Best PS3 Game
    * X-Play E3 2009 Awards
    o Game of Show
    o Best PS3 Game
    * GameSpy E3 2009
    o Best PS3 Game
    * GameTrailers E3 2009 Awards
    o Best Third-Person Shooter
    o Best Graphics
    * GamesRadar E3 2009 Awards
    o Most Surprisingly Awesome

  65. RobertCarr316:

    Those GOTY awards are fixed the winner is normally a multiplat so the xbots and ps3 fantards don’t start bitching

  66. twilight:

    Ivan,
    You have to keep in mind that people who just play xbox360 exclusively haven’t been exposed to a game such as this. A game like this hasn’t been done on the xbox360 just yet.

  67. CAD:

    I don’t think you guys understand what a long standing character is. Mario definately is and Master Cheif is to but Solid Snake? You find him on Nintendo so He does not count. Rachet and Clank? Well I would be embarased to say that. Kratos, well I’ll give you that but He has yet to make his apparance but I know he will hopefull next year. Sackboy is a joke and Nathan Drake is becoming a good character but He is just starting out and has yet to cross over to another generation.

  68. Ivan_PSP:

    twilight:
    Agree %100 also it can’t be done so they will never be exposed to something like this. Sony has so many mascot.

    Ratchet
    Clank
    Jak
    Daxter
    Kratos
    Solid Snake
    Sly
    Crash Bandicoot
    Spyro
    Nathan Hale
    Nathan Drake
    Mark Hammond
    Gabe Logan
    Nariko
    Sweet Tooth
    Jester
    Specter
    Sandman
    And many more.

  69. RobertCarr316:

    @cad. Solid snake was made on the playstation a lot of people don’t know that there was a metal gear game on the nintendo and the solid snake in that game is a different person just the same code name and why would someone be ashamed of saying rachet and clank they are likeable characters who are in great games and if we are talk cross platform cad all you have is master chief cause you mentioned gears of war and that’s not cross platform and none of the characters are good in gears they are all meatheads except for Dom who has a little personality

  70. Roca.:

    Kratos is know for its personality. Master Chief is known for his “hat/helmet”

    where you MS be without Halo. because if Nintendo wounldnt have mario, they still have Kirby, Donky Kong, Link, Samus etc. Sony has R+C, Kratos, Sweeth Tooth, J+D, Sackboy, Snake, etc

    @ Ghost

    you are funny!

  71. ToshithegreaT:

    @Robert

    “Essentially, Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance lets Xbox owners experience one of the most talked about games ever made. It also throws in a number of additional features, most notably a series of no fewer than 500 so-called VR training missions that let you explore the nuances of Metal Gear Solid 2′s gameplay without all the cinematic trappings. Unfortunately, it’s plain to see that Konami didn’t spend a lot of time translating Metal Gear Solid 2 to the Xbox. The game wasn’t optimized for Microsoft’s technically superior platform, at best looking equally as good as the year-old PS2 game, and at worst suffering from some technical issues that weren’t in the original. So Metal Gear Solid 2 fans that own an Xbox as well as a PS2 will be disappointed that this version of the game isn’t hands-down superior to what they’ve already played. On the other hand, Xbox owners who’ve never played Metal Gear Solid 2 will find in Substance a highly intriguing, original action game with some truly impressive production values and considerably more lasting value when directly compared to last year’s version.

    As mentioned, the core of Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance is in fact just Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty. The game consists of two parts, the first being a relatively short sequence in which you play as Solid Snake, and the second being the main portion in which you play as Raiden..

    Snake and Raiden have numerous other moves. They can strangle unsuspecting victims or use them as human shields, they can hold up their victims by surprising them with a gun to their backs, they can execute hip tosses or punch and kick combos, and they can leap away from (or headlong into) their foes. Also, what with the game’s great variety of pistols, assault rifles, explosives, and high-tech gadgets such as thermal goggles and a long-range microphone, Metal Gear Solid 2 definitely affords you with a lot of cool stuff to use and a number of cool situations in which to use it.”

    snake was on xbox too or was it some else with the same code name ala 007..

  72. RobertCarr316:

    toshit now you are being an idiot snake is known for the playstation i never said said he was not on the xbox im just telling cad that the snake from the nintendo version was a different person and hideo kojima said this and you cant question the guy who made snake what he is

  73. ToshithegreaT:

    @roca

    i m sure when sony started out, they too bought/threw money to get nintendo exclusives..

    And i know what sony stands for in gaming..

    “where you MS be without Halo”

    why asking, where it might be,
    WHEN IT IS RIGHT HERE..

    I maynot be a halo fanboy, but i do master chief’s significance to xbox’s brand, 2nd in command goes to Marcus fenix and 3rd one to Commander Shephard..

    just as i acknowledge mario’s to nintendo..
    Nathan drake might become Sony’s mascot, if a new uncharted in the next gen..

  74. ToshithegreaT:

    “toshit now you are being an idiot snake is known for the playstation i never said said he was not on the xbox im just telling cad that the snake from the nintendo version was a different person and hideo kojima said this and you cant question the guy who made snake what he is”

    U are right robert, i am sorry, its my fault, i shudnt argue with u ppl, coz u guys can twist anything in ur favor..

    “Also I know mario galaxy is the highest rated game this gen but I’m not including the Wii cause I don’t think anyone cares” – Robert

  75. RobertCarr316:

    “Also I know mario galaxy is the highest rated game this gen but I’m not including the Wii cause I don’t think anyone cares”

    First of I acknowledged mario as the highest rated exclusive this gen and I said that quess no one seems to care about the Wii but I seem to be wrong since by the looks of it you care so for now on il include the Wii :D

    And im not saying you should not debate with other people cause debates are good fun until some stupid fanboy ruins them its just it makes no sense to bring the xbox verison of MGS2 in when im just saying the snake in the NES version is a different person also I should not have called you stupid thats retared of me sorry

  76. Roca.:

    “i m sure when sony started out, they too bought/threw money to get nintendo exclusives..”

    like what…the PS1 is the console that started out the most new IP.

    Crash, Twisted Metal, GT, Sukioden, Wild Arms, Syphon Filter, Spyro, Silent Hill, Resident Evil, Parasite Eve, Jet Moto, OddWorld, Valkyrie Profile, Tekken, Persona, Xenogears, Bushido Blade, Tobal, Legacy of Kain, Star Ocean, Ape escape, Time Crysis, Medevil, GTA, Guilty Gear, Driver, NFS, Lunar, Rage Racer and more..

    so tell what did they from nintendo…mario, Donkey Kong?

  77. Roca.:

    robert
    “U are right robert, i am sorry, its my fault, i shudnt argue with u ppl, coz u guys can twist anything in ur favor..”

    you nailed again

  78. ToshithegreaT:

    @roca u want me to put a list (i m feelin sleepy, it 1’0 am already) of franchises sony bought.. eg ff series.. i m sure u heard of it

  79. ToshithegreaT:

    When a xbxo exclusive gets ported to games for windows, its a multiplat.. right

    aHow can be snake a sony mascot, when he’s been on nin and xbox too.. I hope u do got what i was trying to say..

  80. ToshithegreaT:

    i am feelin sleepy.. Bloody hell, too many typo’s in my posts..

  81. Roca.:

    “franchises sony bought.. eg ff series.. i m sure u heard of it”

    hahaha, like Robert said. you guys twist anything in you favor..but if you want to go there. I recalled MS giving out a big check (from those XBL fees) to SE so FF13 can land on the 360.

  82. RobertCarr316:

    @roca
    Toshit was the one who said you guys twist everything in your favor

    @toshit
    i understand where you are coming from but when you think metal gear solid and solid snake the first console you think about is the playstation or the psp

  83. Roca.:

    on yeah sony stole FF13 from Nintendo..

    first of all.. FF is not owned by nintendo.

    and second…read this:

    “In fact, the N64 was quite attractive, actually. But as our goal was to develop the next-generation RPG we came to the conclusion that only a high capacity mass storage media would facilitate what we wanted to achieve. This meant CD was the only option and so from that perspective, PlayStation was the only choice.”

  84. Roca.:

    also read this..you might learn something today

    “There was great pressure on the team to maximise the benefits of the new medium. “At that time Sakaguchi [Square’s founder] was the series’ producer. Right from the time the decision to go with CD was made he set down a ground rule for the team saying, ‘If the player becomes aware of the access times, we have failed.’ So we tried many tricks to circumvent the issue, such as offering animation while the game was loading data, and so on. The constant fear for us having worked with cartridges for so many years was that the player would feel bored while waiting for loads. However, only CD media was able to facilitate more than 40 minutes of FMV movies, so we virtually had the decision made for us.” “

  85. ToshithegreaT:

    @roca

    FF7 actually..

    FF13 was stolen by Microsoft :) ..

    As usual u aren’t getting my point..
    I m not taking a dig at sony, i m just stating whenever a comapny, launches their console, they do have to make certain kind of investments.. Can u imagine any new company jumping into this gen starting their own games, no multiplats etc.. Sony/microsoft both had to make certain investments to get certain franchises on their consoles.. It happens all the time and i dont think, their is anything wrong in it..

  86. ToshithegreaT:

    @roca

    cmon dont be stupid, how many developer will actually come on live and say we accepted money..

  87. Roca.:

    yeah but sony didnt steal any Nintando’s game. multiplatform games were also on Sega’s console.

    my point is Sony did not steal or paid anything for FF7. and in fact Sony made most of their investment on first party studios, which brought them most of the new IP i mentioned above.

  88. Roca.:

    so you are saying FF7 could have been made on a N64 cartridge? come on it is obvious the reason SE chose the PS1 to make their next final fantasy…and it actually paid off.

  89. Roca.:

    ohh I forgot..

    Sony have Publishing rights on FF7 and and FF8 in the US. and publishing does not mean stealing.

    Im sure you can understand that FF was not that big of a franchise in the US back then so Sony had to publish the game to bring to the US.

  90. ToshithegreaT:

    @roca

    “i m sure when sony started out, they too bought/threw money to get nintendo exclusives..

    This is my first quote.., and i didnt used the word “stealing” at that time.. After that the discussion went downhill..

  91. ToshithegreaT:

    “so you are saying FF7 could have been made on a N64 cartridge? come on it is obvious the reason SE chose the PS1 to make their next final fantasy…and it actually paid off”

    Yes i do, it wouldn’t have been the same ff7 we ppl have seen, but if they wanted to, they could have worked arnd the nin64 limitations..

  92. Roca.:

    ^^^ key “words”

    if they wanted…but too bad for nintendo SE chose Sony for their next FF game. Sony didnt have anything to do with SE’s decision.

  93. Barnabe Jones:

    That’s exactaly the point Nintendo started to slide. Since the 64 and on, they have consistently released inferior console’s in terms of technology. If developers want to make good games, which push boundaries, they look elsewhere.

    The Wii isn’t the platform of choice for graphics, physics, online, etc, etc. If you want a game with waggle that looks worse then a PSP game, then the Wii is the perfect choice.

  94. oldschool1987:

    @ CAD: ‘Rachet and Clank? Well I would be embarased to say that’

    Another fantastic fanboy remark from CAD, what’s going on man? You’ve done so well for a few weeks!

    Ratchet and Clank is a fucking amazing game! SO much more fun than Halo, Fact.

    Halo might have more players and sell a lot more but it’s much more fun so how is it embarrassing? Stupid remark.

    And we had drake 3 years ago in Uncharted 1 so he ain’t JUST starting out and Metal Gear was on SNES not Metal Gear SOLID which if you read Hideo Kojimas interviews likes to say are a different game.

    Are you friends with Kev? lol

  95. Roca.:

    “Are you friends with Kev? lol”

    nope kev life in his own world

  96. Ivan_PSP:

    Roca.:
    “nope kev life in his own world”
    LMFAO so true.

  97. CarlB:

    “where you MS be without Halo.”

    Not doing as good as they are now, certainly.
    Probably keeping pace with the PS3 right now or slightly behind instead of millions of units ahead. They are still relatively new to the industry and most Sony fans certainly did not expect them to be this far ahead (or ahead at all) at this stage in the game.

    You could also ask where Sony would be without MGS/FF/GT sales. What franchise that has currently crossed over to PS3 matches Halo in total sales and popularity success combined? I don’t know.

    You could also ask where would Sony be without an entire generation (6 year) head start in the industry, not to mention decades more experience manufacturing hardware and a substantial cultural advantage in Japan.

  98. Roca.:

    they are multiple franchises/genre carlB

    MS without halo…i guess there would never be a 360

  99. CarlB:

    Sorry, I missed that roca… could you name the top one franchise with the above mentioned requirements?

    It seems Sony relied more on third party exclusives when it began as well… “i guess there would never be a” PS3 without them.

  100. ToshithegreaT:

    “That’s exactaly the point Nintendo started to slide. Since the 64 and on, they have consistently released inferior console’s in terms of technology. If developers want to make good games, which push boundaries, they look elsewhere”

    @BJ

    Its always about $$$$..

  101. oldschool1987:

    360 would still be a great console without Halo, I think it’s got some brilliant exclusives like GOW and Mass Effect and hopefully Alan Wake lives up to expectations but stupid fanboy comments like ‘Master Chief is the greatest and only console mascot ever and all others are bitches compared’ (CAD lol) is annoying.

    I think the 360 is an amazing console with brilliant games but saying Sony has no gaming characters that define their console(CAD) is pathetic and saying that Ratchet and Clank as a mascot is embarrassing is a completely retarded ‘fanboy’ comment to make.

    The fact is Sony do have more mascots, Sony have been in the Console world longer than M4 so there’s one reason why but CAD you need to stop your pillow talk with Kev at night lol.

  102. oldschool1987:

    than M$*

  103. Roca.:

    dont use the term M$, ppl might question your intelligence

  104. Roca.:

    and some of them will straight up get offended by the “M$” term

  105. CarlB:

    “offended by the “M$”

    Not here, never have, never will, use it away. Though if you truly want to “save time typing” the S is closer :) I know now (from what they say) that’s the only reason some people use it here anyway, and that they are not anti-Microsoft or a Sony fanboy in the least bit (from what they say – and it truly shows in the majority of their posts). But even if they were, it still wouldn’t be a problem.

  106. oldschool1987:

    ‘and some of them will straight up get offended by the “M$” term’

    @ Roca: Really? Why? lol. I thought it’s because there made of money lol. Cheers CarlB :P

  107. Roca.:

    there are ppl who thinks only fanboys use the M$ term. and some think its offensive because its inplying something towards thier console of choice. and some seems to straigh up be bother with that term, I wonder why though, like you said “they just make money” ;)

  108. kev:

    SWEET!! more halo? count me in!

    I just wished the ps3 had a game that made their gamers this happy. but alas….

  109. oldschool1987:

    Kev= Troll
    Kev= School Boy
    Kev= Skin Thief
    Kev= Mummys Boy
    Kev= Waste of Oxygen
    Kev= Virgin
    Kev= Cretin
    Kev= Idiot
    Kev= etc…

  110. CarlB:

    “there are ppl who thinks only fanboys use the M$ term.”

    Only when in combination with other terms like “XBot” on posts that usually tout Sony and/or the PS3 to be “TEH SUPERIORZ” to “M$”.

    “I wonder why though, like you said ‘they just make money’”

    True, in which case I wonder why those same people don’t use $ony instead of Sony… unless they think Sony is not making money somehow?

  111. Roca.:

    “True, in which case I wonder why those same people don’t use $ony instead of Sony… unless they think Sony is not making money somehow?”

    you should go ahead and asked them why…im sure there must be a reasong why ppl use M$ for microsoft. its been like this since the early windows days

  112. JofaMang:

    Yeah, I knew of the “M$” joke before I even owned my first PS1 :P

  113. CarlB:

    “you should go ahead and asked them why…”

    I already did… the responses varied at times, from anything such as: “it’s faster to type than MS” to it is “because they make so much money”, to it is the standard acronym (though a standard search of valid sites could not reflect it as such), etc. In any case they did drop the XBot term in combination for the most part, so they do sound like less of a fanboy, at times when they are not spouting about how “superior” the PS3 is.

  114. oldschool1987:

    ‘unless they think Sony is not making money somehow’

    There losing money ain’t they? lol

  115. oldschool1987:

    They’re*

  116. CarlB:

    I guess it could be “-$.0ny” in that case… lol.

  117. oldschool1987:

    @ Carl: LMFAO!!! Class…

  118. Ghost:

    Don’t make Ivan_PSP come on here and give you guys a lesson…

  119. kev:

    oldschool – AWWW… did i hurt the little fanboy’s feelings….finda mommma…she’ll make it all better for you…LMAO…

  120. oldschool1987:

    @ Kev the Kidder: Yeah I just found your mummy, she was shit.

  121. Roca.:

    ^^^^^ lol

  122. kev:

    oldschool – “mummy”..wtf… are we in Egypt? LMAO!!

  123. oldschool1987:

    Nope, England. How we spell it here dumb fuck. Shit come back btw.

  124. CarlB:

    Guess he was never stationed there.

  125. oldschool1987:

    LMAO he’s only ever been stationed at his mums house.

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