Microsoft bans 1 million gamers on Xbox 360

November 13, 2009

Microsoft bans 1 million gamers on Xbox 360 Microsoft recently dropped the ban hammer on nearly 1 million Xbox 360 owners. The ban comes down on owners who may have modified their Xbox 360 or played pirated games on the system. This is one of the biggest crackdowns on video game piracy in recent memory.

It seems Microsoft may have dropped a massive ban hammer on its user base as copies of the popular game started popping up on bit torrent and warez sites for the Xbox 360. According to Information Week, around 1 million XBL users were banned from the service, which is approximately 5 percent of the total userbase.

There has been reports of a small percentage of users getting banned, but never has Microsoft implemented it on such a large scale. Apparently there are some bitter gamers out there complaining about the ban, admitting to paying around $100 to get the consoles modded by an electronic store. Unfortunately, with every fix the crafty hackers have been able to circumvent and figure out a way around detection on XBL.

According to Burn360, a Microsoft representative indicated that the banning goes beyond piracy as it includes any type of modification to the console to make it look cooler or performance better. According to the TOS, technically this would include using a non-OEM Microsoft hard drive or adding an intercooler. At this point it’s an open arms race between the hackers and Microsoft.



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113 Responses to “Microsoft bans 1 million gamers on Xbox 360”

  1. Kevo/Sir_Chubs_Alot08:

    pirate song anybody?

  2. harry sachz:

    Good.

  3. Roca.:

    “According to Burn360, a Microsoft representative indicated that the banning goes beyond piracy as it includes any type of modification to the console to make it look cooler or performance better. According to the TOS, technically this would include using a non-OEM Microsoft harddrive or adding an intercooler”

    thats another million new units for MS

  4. The Future of Sega:

    I agree with Harry. If you want to modify and change features, then make your OWN Xbox. I don’t give a camel’s piss if they paid $100 or more to have it modded. IT’S ILLEGAL!!!

    And not only that, those consoles should be banned from being sold. Anyone who tries to sell an Xbox that has a banned xbl account should be tossed in prison, no questions asked. I have ABSOLUTELY no sympathy for them.

    If you like to mod things then make the original product yourself.

    “He who has the gold makes the rules :)

  5. harry sachz:

    I don’t know if I agree with the intercooler bit, if it’s there to reduce heat then maybe that’s a bit harsh. But for the other stuff, that’s their own stupid fault. And Future Of Sega is right, anyone trying to sell these consoles (to the unsuspecting) should be punished. If someone knows they are buying a modded console that’s been banned then that’s up to them.

  6. ToshithegreaT:

    “thats another million new units for MS”

    No body is forcing them to buy a 360 again, they can sell all their stuff and buy wii or ps3..

  7. Rhino:

    Fair enough if you mod it to play pirated game. But to ban you for an intercooler seems a bit extreme.

    But that’s the risk you take.

  8. Saber_HAHAha:

    Dang… about 1/30 xbox owners being banned (less, not everyone has Live)? Good. Very good. For stealing games, anyways. Banning somebody for putting an intercooler or flame sticker on their 360 is bollocks… but I like to see people getting busted. Probably ’cause I’m a law abiding citizen. And we wouldn’t want consoles to have the same piracy problems as the PC now, would we…?

  9. Mike Ferro:

    Hopefully if Microsoft keeps these ban waves coming, people will just give up on pirating games and just buy them.

    I can understand where Microsoft is coming from, some folks have been known to put the intercooler on backwards causing the unit to heat up even more. Its the third party harddrives that I don’t agree with.

  10. Roca.:

    MS is going to keep it coming if they see a sales spike suddently

  11. harry sachz:

    @ Mike,

    I had a similar point re the third party data cards in a topic here a few weeks ago. I think disabling the hard drives in a similar fashion to what they did with the data cards would have been a better option rather than banning the Xbox live account.

    I wonder if there’s some sort of appeals process?

  12. SW:

    “people will just give up on pirating games and just buy them.”

    Why would it do anything of the sort, you don’t need xbl to play games.

  13. CAD:

    But the Ban does not stop the pirating it only kicks you from LIVE. I see this as a complete waste of time because if they don’t buy the game they might buy the DLC at least. Hell I plan on Modding my 360 when I get a 2nd one. One ligit for online and another for the games where Live does not matter.

  14. Ivan_PSP:

    Mike Ferro:
    yet I’m still here for ever. Microsoft cannot stop hackers or pirated software. They made a crap of a console so they have to resist losing money or just face the true. Which is piracy no matter what can’t never be stop once it starts.

  15. harry sachz:

    Can Ivan please be banned now for advocating piracy? Even just for a week?

  16. Andrew_DS:

    You forgot to “mention UNCHARTED 2 : Among Thieves” for game of the year Ivan. DOH!

    Harry : People like Ivan can’t see past the end of their nose. They have no idea that the whole industry is affected by piracy. Sure games cost a lot and that is as much due to the escalating dev costs that the new consoles (especially the ps3 Ivan) require for each game.

    But you are not going to spend 30-40 million dollars on a game dev if you are just gonna have little oiks like Ivan steal it. So in the end its the rest of us that pay for it while low life plastic gangstas who claim they are a “gamer 4 liFe” (WTF?) get it for free and don’t have any remorse about what they are doing.

    I would like to say I hope sony suffer the same fate as MS are doing and all the 360 fans start copying all the ps3 games. But to be honest, despite the fact I don’t like sony, I wouldn’t want that to happen to any game company, as I believe that they are all out there to try and bring a little joy to our lives through gaming.

    I know I will get stick for saying this as I am a Nintendo fan in the middle of a 360 vs ps3 battle ground, but I am a gamer for life. (note the NON Brooklyn special school spelling)

  17. Ivan_PSP:

    harry sachz:
    Go fuck yourself.

    No one cares.

  18. Andrew_DS:

    Hummppffff. How come he has a go at you Harry and not me? Maybe my post had too many words in it.

    Oh and Ivan …… I care. (Group hug)

    Anything other than UNCHARTED 2: Among Thieves for
    Game of the Year!

  19. Ivan_PSP:

    LOL epic fail

  20. Rimmer:

    How exactly is MS supposed to know if you have an intercooler or modded your case in any way? What a load of scaremongering bollocks. The only thing they can detect is if there is any modification that affect the digital realm, such as software hacks, modded chips or possibly even a different HDD (providing it registers with the system as being non standard)
    Sucks for homebrew users and people that simply want to expand the functionality of the system, but I guess that is the only way they can stop the hackers.

  21. Roca.:

    “But the Ban does not stop the pirating it only kicks you from LIVE. I see this as a complete waste of time because if they don’t buy the game they might buy the DLC at least. Hell I plan on Modding my 360 when I get a 2nd one. One ligit for online and another for the games where Live does not matter.”

    I agree with CAD, those console can still play pirated games they’re just banned from LIVE. which mean they wont be spending money on GTA4: L&D, Shadow Complex, DLC and so on.

  22. ncaissie:

    Microsoft doesn’t want you to cool you Xbox because there is less chance it will die and you have to buy another one. LOL suckers.

    MS shouldn’t make there hardware so easily moddable if they don’t like it.

  23. Ivan_PSP:

    ncaissie: They didn’t have enough development time to put security the console was obviously rush in fear which backfire.

    This is what rushing a console gets you.
    Easy Piracy
    Bad Hardware
    Power Brick
    Over Heating
    Bad Console Design
    User Hate and Love
    A Lot Of problems
    Lawsuit
    High Peripheral Prices
    Microsoft

  24. phranctoast:

    I’m all for companies finding new ways to ban pirates. Good job Microsoft.

  25. Rimmer:

    Ivan, I am pretty sure Microsoft were Microsoft before they released the 360. ;)

  26. Andrew_DS:

    Hear hear Phranctoast.

    Ivan, please stop my ribs hurt! Firstly what was “Epic Fail”?

    And … (deep breath)
    Easy Piracy – Like the ps2 and the ps1? The only reason there is less on the ps3 is because of its “niche” blu ray format.

    Bad Hardware – That can match the ps3 in almost everything but 1080p. That makes the ps3 just slightly above bad hardware.

    Power Brick – Which keeps the heat out of the console which would no doubt cause more over heating. And if if fails its easier to replace.

    Over Heating – See above.

    Bad Console Design – ??? Why bad design? Because it doesn’t fit in your pocket? See the ps3. Oh and the psp for that matter.

    User Hate and love – Hate AND love? WTF. To use your Brooklyn special school terminology… EPIC FAIL.

    A lot of problems – Come on man. Put the summary at the end you flump. Everything you describe is basically a problem so to say that is trying to pad it out.

    Lawsuit – For who. The owner or for MS?

    High Peripheral Prices – Seem to be in alignment with everyone else.

    Microsoft – So if I run an Xbox 360 I get Microsoft. Cha ching. I am off to buy 10 of them. That will make me the richest dude in the world. Unless someone clever person buys 11. Damn them outsmarting me like that.

  27. Roca.:

    yeah but there were ppl who werent doing nothing wrong with the 360, but yet still got banned.

    why MS dont do the same with all the pirated Windows OS’s out there

  28. Happyhockum:

    Roca.

    “According to the TOS, technically this would include using a non-OEM Microsoft harddrive or adding an intercooler”

    If someone has been able to manipulate & over-write the Xbox software to the point where you could use a “non-OEM Microsoft harddrive” then you’re probably talking about a dozen people….and I doubt they would give a cr@p, they’ll just write new software.

    If “TOS” – or most likey just you – are trying to imply (although naturally you don’t come on out and say it) that installing the same 120gb Western Digital hard drive that Microsoft use as a conversion is going to get you banned then you obviously have no clue, as usual.
    It won’t.
    They only banned non-OEM memory cards.

    “adding an intercooler”

    Go ahead, tell us all how XBL could even be aware that an intercooler is connected to it.

    You’re so full of sh!te Roca.
    Just like your fellow shilling alter-ego Ivan.
    Tw@t.

  29. Ivan_PSP:

    Happyhockum:
    Kid your a fool no one seems to care for your idiotic messages so give up. Your are just writing 4 ur self.

    You can un ban consoles with a PC.

  30. Happyhockum:

    Ivan

    Nobody cares what you, a proven liar and fanboy fool, has to say – excepting your alter-ego fellow fanboy fool Roca, perhaps.

    I couldn’t give a sh!te, seeing as I do not pirate games and you do I’d be happy to see them make your Xbox melt if they could.
    Why should I care?

  31. ncaissie:

    “why MS dont do the same with all the pirated Windows OS’s out there”

    They do, It gives you a blank screen. I can’t remember the colour.

  32. Roca.:

    Andrew is back to counter every single post from Ivan!! ohh I thought those days were over :(

  33. Roca.:

    @ happy

    I didnt even say anything about the intercooler. ur always putting words in my mouth. next time try putting ur xbot dick in your mouth, then tell how it go

  34. Roca.:

    do u always get hard feelings for every comment towards MS. or ur just here to troll and harrast Ivan 24/7

  35. Roca.:

    harass*

  36. Happyhockum:

    Roca

    “@ happy

    I didnt even say anything about the intercooler”

    Another proven liar, your post, what you said (hiding behind ‘TOS’…..a fanzine for to$sers lkike yourself?) –

    “According to the TOS, technically this would include using a non-OEM Microsoft harddrive or adding an intercooler”

    Amusing to see you fellatio & gay sex obsession getting an airing again.
    You’re fooling no-one & you really ought to just get it over with and come out, sweetie.

    Got the double-act going again too, eh?
    Poor wittwle Ivan need you rushing to defend him.
    LMAO

  37. Roca.:

    if you can provide a quote from me saying something about the intercooler that’d be nice. if not stfu and and waste my time

  38. Roca.:

    Happy: “sweetie”

    uhmmm sorry but dont confuse me with the dog you be humping all night long

  39. CAD:

    If piracy is such a huge problem on the 360 then why does the 360 dominate the software sales every month.

    The top ten software sales chart for October follows.

    Uncharted 2: Amont Thieves (Sony, PS3) – 537,000
    Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo, Wii) – 441,000
    Borderlands (Take-Two, Xbox 360) – 418,000
    Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo, Wii) – 314,000
    NBA 2K10 (Take-Two, Xbox 360) – 311,000
    Halo 3: ODST (Microsoft, Xbox 360) – 271,000
    NBA 2K10 (Take-Two, PS3) – 213,000
    Forza Motorsport 3 (Microsoft, Xbox 360) – 175,000
    Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days (Square Enix, Nintendo DS) – 169,000
    FIFA Soccer 10 (Electronic Arts, Xbox 360) – 156,000

    And the truth is NBA 2K10 sold the most games in October with a total of 575,000 and Borderlands was 3rd with 524,000 combined 360/PS3

  40. Roca.:

    oh btw, key word: “a quote from me”

    if didnt noticed, that quote was taken from the web. it didnt came from me. so if you have a problem with it, then go to that website and troll all u want.

  41. Roca.:

    @ happy,

    maybe if you just stop troll and read the article first you would have notice that quote came from Mike’s article. so…why ur taking it on me?

  42. Ivan_PSP:

    Roca.:
    You owning this fools and trolls.
    We all know PS3 is the ultimate gaming system.
    Xbots are still crying like little bitches.

  43. RobertCarr316:

    Damn right these dicks get banned people who work as game developers put a lot of time and effort into these games but their is always one stupid cunt who thinks fuck it I can get the game free I really hope microsoft finds a way to ban these assholes forever even if they buy new xboxs

  44. Roca.:

    to me, its all the same as buying use games.

    I never buy use games unless its a old game that I cant even find in stores anymore

  45. CAD:

    Well I’m all about saving money so I’ll take it used if I can find it. New release will always show up in the used section in a few days. Problem is they always put incentives in to make you want to pay the full price. Dame them!!

  46. phranctoast:

    “And the truth is NBA 2K10 sold the most games in October with a total of 575,000 and Borderlands was 3rd with 524,000 combined 360/PS3″

    The tally for NBA 2K10 comes to 524K.

    were you also including wii and ps2 sales?

  47. Ivan_PSP:

    I guess some people have different views for this. Games make profit almost instantly like movie do even with all the piracy. Developers just want every penny which they have full rights to want that. But most people just don’t care piracy doesn’t really harm everyone, that’s just what they want you to think. Look at Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 huge sales already made Activision more then enough profit to fund a couple new Call Of Duty crappy sequels or useless new IP. Piracy hurts only when the product is crap because no one is buying it so they can just get it free.

  48. Akaro:

    “Microsoft – So if I run an Xbox 360 I get Microsoft. Cha ching. I am off to buy 10 of them.”

    Andrew, you rule.

  49. Roca.:

    “were you also including wii and ps2 sales?”

    and PSP lol

  50. CAD:

    “The tally for NBA 2K10 comes to 524K.

    were you also including wii and ps2 sales?”

    No the Tally for NBA 2K10 is 575K and I have no idea if Wii and PS2 was included because the article only mentioned PS3/360. But come on the Wii does not sell 3rd party titles so I’m sure if it did sell any at all that it really does not mattter. Make Mario Basketball and it will sell like hotcakes. Borderlands sold 524K

  51. CAD:

    Come to think of it all third Party developers of the Wii should just license Mario for every game if they don’t want to end up like EA.

  52. phranctoast:

    213K + 311K = 524K

  53. Ivan_PSP:

    Electronic Arts is way better then Activision. I didn’t like Battlefield: Bad Company but i might just buy the second one.

  54. Akaro:

    Ivan:

    There are cases in which piracy harms everyone.

    Everybody knows that the DS is easy to pirate because of the R4. Some people I know say nonsense like “there aren´t any hardcore games for DS”. Out of the nowhere Chrono Trigger , FF4 DS and GTA come out. They got them all… in their R4! Those games got poor sales (which inhibits the possibility of more games like that in the future). If more hardcore gamers acted like them, no wonder why. And then that same people wonder why do casual games overflow the platform. Perhaps it got something to do with casual gamers actually buying their selected games.

    I understant that crap games must not be rewarded but I also believe that good games should not be punished. Piracy sometimes punish both.

  55. Happyhockum:

    Roca

    “oh btw, key word: “a quote from me”

    if didnt noticed, that quote was taken from the web”

    A quote which, no matter how f*cvking stupid, you leapt all over & were more than pleased to reporoduce to spread some of you bashing sh!te with.

    What sort of gormless f*cking moron woould seriously pretend that a console on-ling service could detect a fan attacked to the console?!

    The only real troll here is you (and your fake mate Ivan).

    Shill idiot.

  56. Roca.:

    w.e dude,

    I was just commenting on Mike’s articles (which obviously the quote came from him), didnt know I was going to hurt ur xbot feeling. my bad.

    next time read the article first and attack the author, dont let ur fanboysm get over ur head. again my bad if i hurt ur feelings. I didnt know you were so sensitive ;)

  57. Ivan_PSP:

    This Xbots are so jealous of PS3 they are writing all this crap LoL. We enjoy when Xbots cry about PS3.

  58. Happyhockum:

    Roca

    No you weren’t.

    You trolled around the net to find some sh!t to throw.

    No matter how brain-dead it was you’ll hurl it.

    You’re the one ‘taking things so seriously’ that you do this sort of b*llocks.

    Ivan

    You’re the one so defensive and desperate to impress that you have to make stuff up.

    Xbox is doing very well in this, MW2 is selling at least 2:1 over PS3.

    That’s why you’re putting in over-time here (and God knows how many other sites) doing your idiotic PR routine.

  59. Ivan_PSP:

    All facts

    Xbots are furious at Sony LoL.

  60. Roca.:

    Mike said (last paragraph):

    “According to Burn360, a Microsoft representative indicated that the banning goes beyond piracy as it includes any type of modification to the console to make it look cooler or performance better. According to the TOS, technically this would include using a non-OEM Microsoft harddrive or adding an intercooler. At this point its an open arms race between the hackers and Microsoft”

    see where he mentioned the intercooler and not me. come on dude, why you even keep trying.

    if u still have a problem with that paragraph the NOW YOU KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM. so be my guess and troll about it all you want. I pretty sure it didnt came from me. I dont need to argue with you about something that didnt came from my me.

    next time read the whole article before going on trolling mode.

  61. phranctoast:

    where did 2:1 come from

    I though it was 360-55%
    PS3-33%
    PC-10-12%

  62. phranctoast:

    @Roca

    I think you’d be best to ignore Happy altogether. His stability seems shaky at best.

  63. Happyhockum:

    Ivan

    You so desperately hope so.
    Must be rubbish for you.

    Roca

    It’s laughable rubbish and not a single shred of evidence for the claim.

    Laughable rubbish you rushed to post here.

    An intercooler. An add-on fan.
    Hilarious.

    The internet is full of sh!te, posting a sh!te amd stupid quote proves nothing.

    It’s perfectly legitimate to laugh at you for posting it tho, cos you’re the one who unquestioningly parrots the sh!te back.

    It’s so obvious why.
    You’re doing you big-up Sony & PS3 and bash everything Microsoft & Xbox you can.

    You’re the troll. Shill idiot.

  64. Happyhockum:

    Mike ought to have known better too.

    Did you ask how an intercooler could be detected by XBL Mike?

  65. Happyhockum:

    phranctoast

    Side with the PS3 village idot clan if you must.

    On the otherhand if it’s just me being so shakey about things then feel free, you give it some thought and see if you can let us know how XBL could detect an add-on fan?

    ….and, in the extremely unlikely event it’s even possible, wtf would they do that for anyways?

  66. Ivan_PSP:

    The PS3 users we are killing this Xbots without needing to try LoL.

  67. Roca.:

    i wasnt bashing anything..

    again……. Mike said (last paragraph):

    “According to Burn360, a Microsoft representative indicated that the banning goes beyond piracy as it includes any type of modification to the console to make it look cooler or performance better. According to the TOS, technically this would include using a non-OEM Microsoft harddrive or adding an intercooler. At this point its an open arms race between the hackers and Microsoft”

    it never came from me. thanks 4 your understanding & collaboration sir.

  68. Happyhockum:

    Roca

    You leapt all over it.

    You will repeat any of cr@p without a moments thought.

    Idiot shill.

  69. Roca.:

    Happy said”

    “You’re the troll. Shill idiot.”

    “your idiotic PR routine.”

    “Side with the PS3 village idot clan if you must”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    sounds like somebody is hurt
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Phranc,

    “I think you’d be best to ignore Happy altogether. His stability seems shaky at best.”

    we’ll do, thanks :)

  70. Ivan_PSP:

    Hackers win always.

  71. Happyhockum:

    Ivan

    Your deluded simple little imaginary world must be all the comfort you have left.

    You’ve been sussed out as a fantasist and liar, the PS3 slim sales have come down and are well off the high they were at
    (and so fast too, that didn’t last very long huh?)
    and even the best game you’ve had this year is selling in decent but hardly outstanding numbers.

    Must be rubbish being you.

    Idiot shill.

  72. phranctoast:

    It’s kind of ridiculous now. It’s Bordering on harassment.

  73. Ivan_PSP:

    phranctoast:
    You still playing Demon’s Souls let me know if got UNCHARTED 2: Among Thieves.

  74. JofaMang:

    What is the intercooler powered by? Any modern device with an internal processor made in the past 10 years is capable of monitoring its own power usage. Devices can have power profiles across the different voltages, and total wattage usage monitoring. If the intercooler is powered off the 360 itself (as opposed to an external wall plug just for itself), then the 360 is perfectly capable of seeing the device, and diagnosing its operation. I am not claiming to know that the 360 actually does this, but it is not some crazy possibility, it is very simple, dated technology that would allow this function.

  75. phranctoast:

    not playing Demon’s Souls at all. Still playing U2. perfecting Ratchet and Clank and playing MW2 online whenever I can.

  76. Rimmer:

    Ivan, I think you will find that games developers need to sell a significant amount to make money. The majority of PS3 exclusive games are struggling to break even for example. The developer is lucky to make $20 out of each game sale. I suspect Uncharted 2, for example, would have to sell 1 million to start making a profit. And Killzone 2 would need to shift over 3 million to clear the rumoured 60million development costs.
    That is one reason why more and more developers are going multiplat. It just doesn’t make financial sense to only develop for one single platform.

  77. Happyhockum:

    Roca

    Like Ivan you so desperately wish it was so.
    Pathetic.

    phranctoast

    Awwwww, diddums.
    Is it annoying watching the PS3 morons getting a battering?

    S’funny how you – like several others on the PS3 side of the fence – have been happy to watch those 2 w@nkers turn parts of this place into little more than Sony/PS3 advertising without a word.

    Shows just where your priorities are.

    “harrassment”

    FFS grow up, it’s a message board and I have harassed no-one.

    (and correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t recall you gurning when that idiot Ghost threatened me with physical assault here either.
    You eventually , eventually, came in saying it was wrong but not before wriggling around about it.
    Hypocrite.

    Your phrase was “You remind me of the person who spits on someone and then wonders why he gets punched in the face”.

    Which suits the PR effort by Roca/Ivan and them getting called on it, down to a tee.)

  78. Roca.:

    u basically answered his question, I wonder what he is going to say now….most likely one of this 5 lines:

    “You’re the troll. Shill idiot.”

    “your idiotic PR routine.”

    “Side with the PS3 village idot clan if you must”

    “Idiot shill.”

    “Idiot shill.”

  79. Happyhockum:

    Come on JofaMang, it’s about the most unlikely scenario going.

    …..and an intercooler, even if they could detect the slight additional draw a few fans required why would they start banning anyone when so many have bought them after the initial over-heating issues?

    It’s just not credible.

  80. Happyhockum:

    Roca

    Glad to see you are fully aware of what you are.

    Stop acting like an idiot shill and you won’t get called for being one.

  81. Roca.:

    lets move on to another subject.

    Phranc your down for some MW2 tonight?

    Jofa, will the Red stone lower my CT? im just asking because the Red stone is a challenge stone. so I dont think it will count as “invading” somebody’s world.

  82. Ivan_PSP:

    Rimmer:
    UNCHARTED 2: Among Thieves has sold 1 million in a half going for 2 now. And Killzone 2 cost Sony just 20 million to make. LoL

  83. Ivan_PSP:

    Roca.:
    Let me know if you got UNCHARTED 2: Among Thieves.

  84. Roca.:

    “Stop acting like an idiot shill and you won’t get called for being one.”

    if you havent noticed I have been trying to avoid your fanboy argument. I have better things to do than arguing for something that I “never” said just because you cant see a logical “explanation” to it

  85. Ivan_PSP:

    Roca.:
    Yeah happyhockum always tried to put words you didn’t say it. And anything even facts are all lies in his eyes. The guy is beyond Microsoft’s little whore he a one of a kind troll. Don’t bother talking to that moron i myself don’t respond to his useless post. A 12 year old has a better argument then him LoL.

  86. JofaMang:

    I have no idea Roca, I don’t imagine it will, because the nature of it is both parties have to agree, but i could be wrong.

  87. Roca.:

    I finally found something about DS that you cant really answer lol.

    thanks anyways. u have been really helpful

  88. phranctoast:

    “Phranc your down for some MW2 tonight?”

    Maybe. I may bring it to my friends house as the roomy is renting the ugly truth and it looks too much like a chick flick for me.

  89. Rimmer:

    Ivan, I am well aware of Uncharted 2 selling 1.5million according to Vgchartz. I was simply pointing out the figure at which they would be making a profit. Gears of War 2 for example needs to sell 600k to break even.
    KZ2 had already passed the Euro 20million mark at E3 back in 2007. Considering how it took another 2 years after that to come out it is no surprise if the insider reports of costs hitting Euro 42 million are pretty true. Unfortunately the truth is safely buried by Sony.

  90. Roca.:

    kool, ill be home all weekend,

    im trying to finish up Demon’s Souls so I can start playing R+C and a lil be of MW2 and maybe get back to NGS2.

    but….it will be hard as GOW Collection and Assassins’s are out in a few days (im still having second thoughts about A.C 2)

  91. phranctoast:

    cool deal. The weather will be shit the whole weekend. Im sure Ill be gaming a lot.

  92. Ivan_PSP:

    Roca.:
    What about UNCHARTED 2: Among Thieves?????????

  93. Happyhockum:

    Ivan

    Howl at the moon ll you like shill, just about everyone’s playing MW2.

    Even your alter-ego Roca.

    (which must be funny to watch at your house)

  94. Ivan_PSP:

    Roca.:
    I’m buying Demon’s Soul’s soon you guys got me so jealous of that game i need to have it.

  95. Roca.:

    I will play some U2 online, just shoot me a PSN msg.

  96. Roca.:

    Happy,

    why dont you stop attacking ppl and talkin about games for once.

  97. Ivan_PSP:

    Roca.:
    ok thanks

  98. Happyhockum:

    Roca

    Stop acting like a shill for Sony & PS3 and I might, meanwhile showing you (& Ivan) up for what you so obviously are is amusing me.

  99. Roca.:

    Im glad you only come to this website to read and counter my comments…my fanbase just expanded by 1

  100. Ivan_PSP:

    Roca.:
    LoL omg keep making fool outer them.

  101. Happyhockum:

    Roca

    “my comments…my fanbase just expanded by 1″

    Oh dear, you really don’t get it do you?
    You keep revealing your rather predictable & sad mentality/’thinking’.
    Genuinely you are a pathetic individual.
    Your juvenile needy-ness is risible.

    Ivan

    Go have your ‘episode’ elsewhere you tedious laughably unintelligible shill.

  102. Happyhockum:

    Ivan

    BTW, “omg”.

    What are you, a 13yr old airhead American schoolgirl?

  103. Ivan_PSP:

    LoL LoL

    Maybe this would make you shut the fuck up 4 once
    http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/playstation-3-still-beating-xbox-in-console-sales/?news=123

  104. The Future of Sega:

    Finally he speaks english!! ^^^

  105. The Future of Sega:

    Ivan/Roca can I ask you a serious question? Seriously I mean no humor or criticism by this? Do you really talk with such broken grammar or is it just an online thing you do all of the time? Now again I’m not criticizing you. I just want to know if it’s a mental condition or just a humorous thing.

  106. Ivan_PSP:

    The Future of Sega:
    Get a real life dude you just waiting to get ban.

  107. Happyhockum:

    Ivan

    Wooooooow, stand back in amazement, the PS3 slim’s sales are falling back from their (one single short month) peak fast but it’s held out for a 2nd month on top.

    Big deal, it ends either next month or the month after, the trend is clear.

    ……and for year on year sales the PS3rd still most definitely is in 3rd slot.

    BTW

    It’s been fun watching you make a liar of yourself (again).

    S’funny how when Xbox was battering all 7 shades of sh!te out of the PS3 in the monthly NPD sales you droned on and on and on about how it didn’t matter.
    Now that you’ve seen 1 decent PS3 slim month followed by another even if it is a much less impressive month and you act like all your Christmases have come at once.

    Ludicrous.

    Never let it be said that you ever failed to live down to anyone’s expectations, saddo shill.

    You’re as laughably predictable as expected.

  108. Ivan_PSP:

    Sour grapes Jealousy is hurting this Xbots we are killing them.

    Xbox 360 better get real games to compete with Sony’s army or face extinction like Dreamcast and any other wannabe.

  109. Happyhockum:

    Ivan

    Your pathetic claim that others ‘must be jealous’ when it is patently clear there is nothing for us to be in the least bit ‘jealous’ about is so obviously the last resort of the deluded fanboy who is slowly realising his day-dreams of massive PS3 sales success are vanishing, again.

  110. Ivan_PSP:

    Jealously you all are it shows. Bitterness. The only game that you have is a multiplaform LMFAO.

  111. Kevo/Sir_Chubs_Alot08:

    WTF is shill? @ future of sega…. you made me crack up

  112. Roca.:

    Future of Sega,

    dont talk about grammar when you brought me a High problem-solving test to prove ur in college

  113. Roca.:

    i meant

    dont talk about grammar when you brought me a “High School” problem-solving test to prove ur in college

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