Review: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves – one of the most innovative games of the decade?

November 16, 2009

Review: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves – one of the most innovative games of the decade? When Uncharted: Drake’s Fortune first came out a couple of years ago, many hailed the game as the best looking title on the home consoles this generation. However, with the launch of Uncharted 2: Among Thieves, the geniuses at Naughty Dog aimed to up the ante. However, is it good enough to raise the bar once again?

Story

In Uncharted 2: Among Thieves, Drake is back almost two years after the events of the first game. Drake is still treasure hunting as usual when he encounters some former colleagues in the fortune hunting business. One thing leads to another and Drake is on a trail to find the lost treasure of Marco Polo from his trip from China. It’s suffice to say that in Uncharted 2, Drake gets mixed up in one of the biggest action adventure games of this year involving betrayal, romance and an immersive story that will keep you glued to your TV set.

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The single player campaign in Uncharted 2 will run you around 12 hours to complete, which is respectable when compared to other blockbuster titles. However, the game is so immersive you will find yourself playing the game for many hours in one sitting. The chapters are laid out in a way that you always want to continue playing the next one to find out what will happen.

The game also has one of the most amazing set pieces ever seen in a video game. From the war torn city of Nepal to a whole level taking place on a fast moving train, which is probably the most innovative level seen in a video game to date.

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Naughty Dog has done what very few game studios have been able to achieve, bridge the gap between story telling and video gaming. For the first time in a game, you will feel like you are in the middle of the story instead of viewing it from outside the game. The developers also achieve in creating a bond between the gamer and the characters within the game.

Controls

The controls in Uncharted 2 are very tight and much more refined from the previous game. There seems to be more animations varying Drake’s movements significantly. In the first game you jumped across every ledge while hanging from it. However, in Uncharted 2 Drake actually reaches and pulls himself towards the next ledge instead of using the same jump action to arrive there.

The platforming is vastly improved from the first game with challenging destinations that will require you to think. The cover system is also finely tuned with amazing results. Drake can take cover and pull any enemy that walks close by and perform a finely executed maneuver to take him out. Rarely did I find myself latching onto a cover I wasn’t aiming for. The fact that Uncharted 2 seamlessly integrates a vertical cover system proves much more variety in how you strategize your attack.

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You can choose to latch onto a broken wall, and shoot over it while hanging in mid air. You can also use a hanging sign or even a pillar up in the sky as a cover to take out enemies below. Rarely do shooters allow you to really take advantage of higher ground as in real life. Everything about Drake’s movements are solid and there is very little fault that can be found in the controls. There are a few things that can be improved such as Drake’s reaction to jumping up on an invisible wall, but I’m really nitpicking.

Visuals/Design

The graphics in Uncharted 2: Among Thieves look absolutely stunning. Uncharted 2 completely blows the first game out of the water in terms of graphics and presentation. The snow levels actually look chilly as you can see Drake’s breath as well as snow shuffling around his legs. When you execute a roll, or just stand idle, you can see the snow accumulating on Drake’s jacket. The snow slowly melts leaving a semi-wet look to his jacket. In time Drake’s clothes will slowly dry out as well.

I have never seen a developer dedicate so much effort into getting all of the details perfect as Naughty Dog have with Uncharted 2. I have to agree with some of my peers that Uncharted 2 has the best looking single player campaign, period.

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Not only did Naughty Dog craft a extremely well told story that rivals many of the Hollywood blockbuster flicks, but also features one of the best voice acting and dialog as well. The banter between Drake, Elena and Chloe is absolutely gold. The developers have a dialog for almost every situation or circumstance. Drake will whip out a witty joke at the direst of situations.

The game features a comprehensive multiplayer that is also equally addictive to the single player campaign. There is team death match, team objective, gold rush, co-op objective and co-op survival. My favorite mode is co-op survival. If you have played Left 4 Dead’s survival mode or Gears of War 2’s Horde mode then you will feel right at home.

In survival mode, you and two other live players will have to fight off wave after waves of enemies. The game mixes things up by throwing in helicopter attacks, and fully armored boss-like enemy with Gatling guns at you.

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The co-op objective mode is also extremely fun as it is like an extension to the single player campaign. I feel that this is much better than having to play the single player campaign with a friend as there is a great deal of replayability with these tightly woven co-op objective missions. Its interesting, as games such as Resistance 2’s co-op and Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2’s spec-op has all gone this route as well.

The multiplayer is definitely solid and even has a perk-style Boost system where gamers can setup their loadout with different boosters. There are boosters such as more ammo, faster reload, and increase blindfire accuracy. With a level cap of 60, gamers will spend a great amount of time ranking up.

Wrap-up

Uncharted 2: Among Thieves is fantastic as it is a extremely well crafted game. It is rare to see a game created with so much attention to detail and care. The game is definitely a title that will be talked about in the future as it innovates in so many areas in terms of graphics, story telling and character progression.

I highly recommend that all PS3 owners should go out and purchase Uncharted 2: Among Thieves. However, if you don’t own a PS3 yet you should seriously think about picking one up just to experience this title.

Score:

5/5

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203 Responses to “Review: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves – one of the most innovative games of the decade?”

  1. oldschool1987:

    Hmm, I doubt the Xbots will agree with you there. There’s probably one or two who will swallow their pride and say it looks good.

    I agree with the review completely tho, this game is absolutely amazing.

  2. Ivan_PSP:

    Awesome review nicely done, Thanks. Also i only took 10 hours to beat the game on HARD. I read everything i wish you would do more review all the time.

  3. me_:

    The game looks good but “one of the most innovative games of the decade” ……hyperbole .

  4. Ivan_PSP:

    me_:
    Is it so deal with facts.

  5. Saber_HAHAha:

    Innovative might not be the best word to describe it… it basically puts together what makes AAA games into AAA games and takes a huge leap forward ahead of everyone else. The graphics, voice acting, and plot and downright the best of this generation (plot is debatable if you are a huge Metal Gear fan), its one of the most cinematic games, and its single-player campaign has to be the best I’ve ever played. Plus the multi-player is pretty stellar for a TPS/action platformer. The most innovative game this gen is LittleBigPlanet, but this is more accessible and overall better.

    ONE COMPLAINT: VERY VERY EASY. It’s one of those games that, instead of overwhelming you with an excellent challenge (Demon’s Souls), does it in other ways. I played it on hard, then on expert, then got the platinum (all in the first week) and never ran into trouble. Thank god it has online. That’s where you need real skill. Easier than the first, which was easy most of the way on crushing.

    Anyhoos, it’s my favorite game this gen, alongside the first Uncharted and LBP. But I’m planning to pick up Demon’s Souls soon, and it may end up on the list.

    I… got an eye infection =’(. Stupid contact lenses…

  6. Saber_HAHAha:

    I mean I played it on Crushing, ‘doh. Too much Guitar Hero.

  7. harry sachz:

    It does look good. Am still waiting on the brother in law to buy a copy so I can actually play it first hand.

    Oldie, we’re not the ones who try to shit on everything that the other console releases without even playing it.

  8. Kevo/Sir_Chubs_Alot08:

    umm my ass wiping gets pretty innovative

  9. harry sachz:

    Fold or scrunch, kevo?

  10. Mike Ferro:

    @Saber,

    Not saying gameplay or even multiplayer is innovative. I think the game innovates with the way it tells the story as it elevates the medium to a art form other games will try to catch up for years.

    I think Adam Sessler hit it on the head in this video – http://g4tv.com/videos/41828/Sesslers-Soapbox-Uncharted-2-is-Awesome/

    I agree with Adam’s last comments in the vid. that Uncharted 2 is a “game changer.”

  11. CarlB:

    Decade? RE4 when it first came out on GameCube.

    This game perhaps has the best presentation of the decade for a video game, but not innovation. It is the closest a video game has come to being an action movie while still being a fun game.

  12. oldschool1987:

    ‘Oldie, we’re not the ones who try to shit on everything that the other console releases without even playing it’

    @ Harry: Whoa! What other console games have I shit on then? …Or did I misunderstand your comment?

    My comment weren’t directed at you Harry anyway, your quiet neutral when it comes to consoles.

  13. harry sachz:

    Oldie,

    I wasn’t directing that at you mate! Sorry if it came out that way.

  14. Ivan_PSP:

    This game will go down in history as one of the great game ever made in the world.

    Every detail in UNCHARTED 2: Among Thieves screams perfectionism. I hope this game is not just a trilogy i hope it never ends. I will buy every UNCHARTED game Naughty Dog makes.

    Naughty Dog has raise the bar to a whole level of perfection that can only top by well Sony Computer Entertainment.

    I like the ability to tweak the game after you finished the story. I got infinite ammo plus i purchased all the guns I’m buying everything. I want 2 million to buy the fat Nathan Hale to play online.

    My favorite online mode is Plunder well we all love to play that mode is just so awesome.

    This game is worth buying a PS3 a Googolplex times is that awesome. Everyone even the Xbots need to try this master piece. If Sony continues making games like this the wannabe competitors better be ready to lose money big time.

    Again awesome review.

    I hope the film is as good or if not better then the game when Columbia Pictures debut the film.

    Lucky forward to see this Columbia Pictures films.
    UNCHARTED: Drakes Fortune
    inFAMOUS
    God of War
    Metal Gear Solid

  15. Ivan_PSP:

    Lucky i meant looking LMFAO

    Mike i wonder what difficulty you beat the game on i bet NORMAL.

  16. Andrew_DS:

    When I read the title of this post I put my rain mac on before entering. I knew Ivan would exploded in an frenzy of hot sticky self loving goo!

    I agree with CarlB. RE4 for game of the decade. Or Burnout 3.

  17. Ivan_PSP:

    As we all should for all things PlayStation. Highest rated love by everyone. I bet William Henry “Bill” Gates III is playing PLAYSTATION 3.

    Soon…
    Demon’s Soul 2
    White Knight Chronicles 1 & 2

  18. CarlB:

    Nah Ivan, he’s playing Uncharted 3 on XBox 720, because just like most all really good non first-party exclusives, it will just roll on over to the competition’s console.

  19. phranctoast:

    @CarlB

    You played the game on hard for the first play-through?
    How long did it take you?

  20. Roca.:

    Sorry but while I love R4 (for the GC) that game had one of the worst ending in video game history. and there were some thing that never made sense.

    Uncharted 2 is way head of this generation (as far as story telling goes) along with MGS4

  21. Roca.:

    it took me 15hrs to beat U2 on hard. MP is alot of fun.

  22. phranctoast:

    I was 13.5hrs on Normal. I still need to play and beat it in hard and crushing.

  23. Roca.:

    my favorite U2 quote:

    “Metaphors ain’t going to pay you bill kid”

  24. Roca.:

    oops, i meant:

    “Metaphors ain’t going to pay your bills kid”

  25. phranctoast:

    I enjoyed the banter and the very end of the game.

  26. twilight:

    Uncharted 2 has set the bar pretty high. It’ll be interesting to see the next game that challenges Uncharted 2.
    Harry, I see your showing a little love to the ps3 with your new logo and all…

  27. Roca.:

    that was funny too…. (Drake: I hate Clowns) lol

    Chloe’s ass is one of the most memorable thing in video game history ;)

    im sure going to miss it

  28. Barnabe Jones:

    There were so many good lines from that game, but I think my favorite was, “Again with the damn jumping!” … or something like that.

  29. Roca.:

    or when Elena said “maybe we could save the world” (cant remember the exact words). that was funny coming from her

  30. Barnabe Jones:

    ok so I do not have ANY large or pure Blade stones. I have a few of the cloudstones types, but I do NOT have any large shards. :(

    Only missing blue blood & insanity catalyst for the weapons.

    Have all spells, need old monk & maiden miracles (I’ll do them next time) & dragon god (haven’t beaten him yet this cycle).

    And that’s it. Depending on the stones you have, that might be the only thing that screws us up.

  31. twilight:

    I enjoyed Chloe’s character. I hated to see her go.

  32. Roca.:

    we are going to have to farm them…but even then I have been trying but I dont get any drop and when I do, they only drop and single shard. I need chuck, large and pure

  33. Barnabe Jones:

    That’s what I was afraid of… I have really low luck also, like 15 I think. I’ll check the guide to see what it says.

  34. Roca.:

    @ twilight

    whats ur PSN ID?

  35. Roca.:

    are you going to be on today bj?

  36. Barnabe Jones:

    Yeah, I need to get in gear and get a few things done today, but I’ll be on around 5 or 6.

  37. twilight:

    Roca,
    I’m not on line yet. When I get on line, I ‘ll make sure you get this information.

  38. Roca.:

    I spent the whole f**king day yesterday on just 3 levels (Maneater, Old Monk (BP kept owning my ass) and Old Hero)

  39. CarlB:

    phranctoast,

    That was Saber. I played it on normal my first time through as well.

  40. phranctoast:

    “That was Saber. I played it on normal my first time through as well.”

    Wow!
    you rented it and played a 13 hour game through its entirety three separate times? Quite impressive.

  41. Roca.:

    he got platinum, so he most likely spent 35-45hrs on U2.

    I thought carlb said he bought U2 and sold it back

  42. phranctoast:

    pretty sure he got it from gamefly.

  43. Barnabe Jones:

    Roca, last time I fought Old Monk, the Black Phantom sent me a message saying, “just kill me quickly”.

    I sent him a message back saying, “Thanks! You’re the nicest Black Phantom EVER. Usually black phantoms are such jerks”.

    I didn’t actually say that until I killed him though. :)

    Yeah it sucks I’ll have to do old monk and maneater again. What are you going to have to do on next cycle?

  44. Roca.:

    i still have to do false king, Old Hero, Storm King and all of world 5

  45. Roca.:

    the game just got really hard. maybe we need to lvl up more (like we used to)

  46. Roca.:

    I hate those damn BPs.

  47. Barnabe Jones:

    lol I played through a few levels on my own offline just to get through them quickly.

    I’ve only beat 1-1,1-2,2-1,3-1,3-2,4-1,5-1 so far. Still not bad for two plays. Probably two more and I’ll have it beat.

    If we can join up tonight, help me with 2-2 and 5-2, and we can get the weapon trophy.

  48. Roca.:

    get 2-2 to PBWT, and let me know, so we can take on BP Scivir. He is the harderst BP in the whole game. he is cheap too and you have little space to fight him.

  49. oldschool1987:

    ‘I wasn’t directing that at you mate! Sorry if it came out that way’

    @ Harry: Just me being retarded mate lol.

    Now people are mentioning RE4 as game of the decade I’m starting to think they may be right. I remember the 1st time I played RE4, it revolutionized games completely. I hope RE6 goes back to the way RE4 was. 5 was a bit too action movie-ish.

  50. JofaMang:

    HAHAH, Maneater made me so angry, i seriously wanted to quit playing the game, lost to him, like, 20-30 times, until i started useing firestorm on the fucker. Use a weapon, and he swats you around, and takes off in the air once a little damage is taken, wasting time till the second one comes. use Firestorm while he is on the ground, and he almost always jumps in the air (After taking shtiloads of damage) and you can predict his return trajectory and nail him again as he lands.

  51. Barnabe Jones:

    I actually tried firestorm, but didn’t have too much success. I just kept casting warding and slowly chipped away at him with my sword.

    I would say he is the cheapest boss. He flies away when ever you hit him. Plus if he hits you, he can easily kill you or knock you off.

    When you lock on to him, the camera swings widely when he flies away. And when you take into account there are two of them…

  52. JofaMang:

    I timed my firestorm, only used it after rolling out of the way of a lunge or attack, then running back towards him and blam firestorm. Whatever you do, don’t let them finish their yellow energy charge routine, they double their damage output for as long as it lasts, which is actually longer than I survive in those situations, so don’t know how long it does last.

  53. phranctoast:

    RE4 was a great game. It was made better by the fact that it revolutionized the RE franchise, while at the same time keeping the basics in there for familiarity purposes (typewriter, herbs).

  54. Roca.:

    They pushed me off the bridge once. that was a good “30 secs” fall.

    so BJ, are you still in NG++? or NG+++?

  55. Barnabe Jones:

    Jofa, I didn’t realize that’s what the yellow energy thing was. That explains why sometimes I would get killed so damn quickly though.

    Roca, I lost count lol. I am on my 3rd run I think. So NG++.

  56. Barnabe Jones:

    Also I am a huge fan of RE4. 5 was pretty good, but it felt like more of the same, only with co-op.

    Still I would say that the RE GameCube remake was better. I like the old school exploring to solve puzzles. Sadly, that’s never coming back to the RE franchise.

  57. phranctoast:

    I enjoyed the co op in RE5 but I would like to play through it again alone and without Sheava (or whatever her name is) wasting all the ammo. Theres a couple of tough parts where are feel i would be better off by myself than with her help.

  58. Roca.:

    im glad RE5 is the last one in the series.

  59. phranctoast:

    I highly doubt that it will be the last in the series.

  60. Saber_HAHAha:

    I have no idea how long it took me first time (is there a way to check?) but it felt long enough. I know that my second play (crushing) was longer than my first, since I made it a point to find all the treasures. I’m level 20-something online, and I’m pretty decent. My K/D ratio might be 1.5 or 1.7 or so.

  61. Roca.:

    RE5 is the end of that story. There will be more RE games but it will be a brand new story/characters.

  62. phranctoast:

    @Saber
    Usually displayed with your saved game file.

    for the treasures…. did you check online or legitimately find them all? I’ll be the first to admit. I had to look online for a majority of them. My second playthrough on hard I’ll have to do all that.

    “RE5 is the end of that story. There will be more RE games but it will be a brand new story/characters.”

    ahhhhh.. ok.

  63. kev:

    mike – ” I think the game innovates with the way it tells the story as it elevates the medium to a art form other games will try to catch up for years.”

    what a minute…you liked the storytelling so that’s “innovative”? oh i forgot…all things ps3 are innovative and grand to you…

    geez…

  64. Roca.:

    @ Kev,

    the game got over 20+ perfect scores, more than any other game this gen other than GTA4. so there must be a reason why it’s got so many perfect scores.

  65. Rimmer:

    UC2 clearly does a good job bringing elements together and providing an attractive, well rounded package (going by reviews I have read), but it is hardly innovative. Games like Portal or LBP are innovative. This game simply takes the best parts of mirrors edge, Gears of war, tomb raider and half life and sticks them together as a decent whole.

  66. Ghost:

    Anybody else think Chris started using steroids lol? Yeah sheeva loved wasting ammo hehehe, that’s why I controlled the ammo stash and handed it out in small quantities. But it does get to be a pain having to do that. Btw RE4 was just awesome a really cool game. I remember playing the earlier RE’s late at night with all the lights turned out, I will admit it creep me the hell out at times lol. Good series I really hope they keep it up…

  67. phranctoast:

    “the game got over 20+ perfect scores, more than any other game this gen other than GTA4. so there must be a reason why it’s got so many perfect scores.”

    @Roca,

    Don’t forget. U2 did all this on it’s own merits. The GTA series banks on the efforts of past iterations. How many reviewers were afraid to not give the GTA4 a perfect score due to community backlash?

    @kev.
    You’ll never understand until you play it, and you’ll never play it. Go watch some low rez you tube so you can complain about the graphics. lmao.

  68. Saber_HAHAha:

    Rimmer… exactly right.

    The only thing that I’m afraid of is that other developers will try to forget about Uncharted 2, give up trying to match it, and try to make a new standard of games. There is absolutely no game coming up as well-rounded as Uncharted 2, and there might not be for a long, long time.

    PS3 and multi-plat developers, if you want to stand out from the crowd, then start taking notes.

  69. phranctoast:

    @Saber.

    I’m pretty sure Naughty dog is giving out their toolset to other developers.

  70. Roca.:

    imo GoW 3 look just as good if not better.

  71. Saber_HAHAha:

    That’s good of them, I’m sure that there are more than a few developers who would do anything to keep their techniques to themselves. I hope to see some more games that come out of their dark corridors and look like Uncharted 2.

  72. phranctoast:

    idk. I was really hoping gow3 would be a 1090p game, but it’s clearly 720p.

  73. phranctoast:

    I was very happy with the graphical look in dead space. This gives me very high hopes for Viscerals latest endeavor Dante’s Inferno.

    It also looks like the only way xbots will get a little taste of what a GOW game is like as it appears to be a GOW clone..

  74. Roca.:

    “idk. I was really hoping gow3 would be a 1090p game, but it’s clearly 720p.”

    thats a demo, sometimes devs lower the res on the demo to make the file smaller (just like Bioshock did)

  75. JofaMang:

    I have given up hope of the 1080p standard this generation, at least the ps3 can give real 1080p occasionally, and not just upscaled :D .

  76. oldschool1987:

    ‘im glad RE5 is the last one in the series.’

    @ Roca: RE6 is confirmed, there will be some same characters, new story and they’re going to reinvent it all again. The same way 4 was reinvented.

  77. phranctoast:

    Once they couldn’t make the GOW collection 1080p @ 60fps I knew for a fact to not expect GOW3 to be 1080p.

  78. Roca.:

    Jofa: “I have given up hope of the 1080p standard this generation, at least the ps3 can give real 1080p occasionally, and not just upscaled ”

    at least im not the only one who doesnt get fooled by the “1080p” on the back of most 360 games. MS be fooling many ppl with that but in reality most games are upscaled.

    GT5 and NGS 1 & 2 are 1080p right?

  79. Ivan_PSP:

    CarlB:
    “Nah Ivan, he’s playing Uncharted 3 on XBox 720, because just like most all really good non first-party exclusives, it will just roll on over to the competition’s console.”

    Duh lame pathetic keep dreaming.

    And wow i only took 10 hours to finish the game on HARD you people must not be as good i was even looking for treasures and getting trophies.

  80. phranctoast:

    GT5 is supposed to be. NGS1 was but NGS2 was 720p while the 360 version was 540p.

  81. Wylie77:

    I posted this in one other thread, but everyone seems to be in this one so I’ll repost. Gamersspot is reporting that PC MW2 is getting dedicated servers.

    I’m at work so I can’t read the article, just saw a headline. But maybe someone here can read it and confirm.

  82. Roca.:

    i cant access that website…sorry

  83. SW:

    “Gamersspot is reporting that PC MW2 is getting dedicated servers. ”

    Probably the ‘hacked’ ones.

    Either that, or IW realized that the hacked ones are possible and therfore tried to nip it in the bud and release thier own.

  84. twilight:

    There are very few games that have a true resolution of 1080p. Most users believe their games are actually displaying in a resolution of 1080p. They don’t realize that the game is just being upscaled to that resolution.

  85. CarlB:

    OS1987,

    “RE5 was a bit too action movie-ish.”

    It’s funny because RE5 was the game I was thinking of when I was playing through UC2… graphics, scenes, etc. UC2 pulled off the presentation and flow much better though.

    “pretty sure he got it from gamefly.”

    Your right. I did, and I had it for a couple weeks, which works about to about $5 through GameFly 2 at at time. Roca was thinking of when I bought UC and sold it back.

    “wow i only took 10 hours to finish the game on HARD you people must not be as good i was even looking for treasures and getting trophies.”

    The difference is many of us already have the platinum Ivan, you’re SLOW…lol.

  86. CarlB:

    decaps in DAO… very nice.

  87. Roca.:

    hey carlb, check you Blorge.net inbox

  88. phranctoast:

    How long did it take you to complete the game CarlB?

    what’s your psn ID?

  89. Ivan_PSP:

    CarlB:
    If you think you so good face me in a match online and i will destroys your ass. I will take the Xbot outer you. Talk is cheap plus no one gives a fuck about Platinum anyone that really wants it bad enough can get it.

  90. Roca.:

    lmaooo

  91. Roca.:

    you forgot that CalrB is a real Marine Recon Ivan.

  92. RobertCarr316:

    @Ivan
    Come talk to me when you beat the game on crushing in under 7 hours

  93. CarlB:

    The game didn’t take long (don’t have the exact time for you), but getting all the trophies did phranc. MSgtBUSMC.

    Ivan. You have to put me back on your friends list and I’ll think about giving you the chance :)

    Last message from Ivan: “Reason y deleted u Xbox crap” :D

  94. Roca.:

    lmaoo he actually wrote that to you?

  95. JofaMang:

    hahaha, no surprise, he was probably the one who sent the Faget email to HH (or was it CAD, I can’t recall)

  96. Saber_HAHAha:

    @twilight

    Yes, it makes me angry when companies lead people to believe that they are viewing a higher resolution than they really are. I heard that lots of Xbox 360 games have 1080p on the back, simply because it can be upscaled to that. If so, I smell feces.

    It’s hard to believe that Uncharted 2 is only 720p. The first one was blurry in motion and had a ton of screen tearing and really wasn’t very smooth, but this one is absolutely perfect.

    1080p/60fps would have made this look even smoother, but it doesn’t hinder it. The only games that really show a difference with a smoother frame-rate and resolution are high-speed racers. Since I play on a very good TV (58″ Panasonic Vierra, the higher-quality line of Vierras, and it is a plasma), games like WipeOut HD look fantastic. Even my parents (who have horrible eyesight) could see how clear and smooth it is.

  97. phranctoast:

    It was CAD.

  98. Ivan_PSP:

    JofaMang:
    WTF is your problem?

    Roca.:
    I wrote that yes because he just writes to many fucking bad shit about PS3 for no reason. Marine usually suck in their job. I hate them i like more companies like Blackwater PMCs is my shit.

    CarlB:
    You think is a privilege having you on my friends list. Because is nothing more then a betrayal.

    I guess some PS3 owners are not what they appear to be. Is sad to see this happen betraying your fellow PSN empire. Karma is a bitch remember that.

    Saber_HAHAha:
    Why couldn’t all games look like
    UNCHARTED: Drake’s Fortune
    UNCHARTED 2: Among Thieves
    Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
    Killzone 2
    Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction
    Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack In Time
    Heavenly Sword
    Folklore
    Bioshock

    Those are a couple of my favorite PS3 games graphically. The look awesome my Bravia at full 1080p even though they are not all made in 1080p resolution.

  99. JofaMang:

    My problem is retards like you (both sides, 360 and PS3) degrade the dialogue construncted by actual gamers. It is idiot shills like you that give the impression to non-gamers, that people who play games are immature, ignorant, and wasting their lives on the hobby. Just like Kev, I do my best to never acknowledge you, to give you any sense of getting attention for your psychosis, as it only promotes the spewing of further bullshit. My apologies to everyone else for breaking my rule.

    But in this specific case, the crime fits the suspect, that is all.

  100. kev:

    JOFA – who are you and why should we care what you think about anyone?

    i was gaming before you’re dad ever paid your mom.

    yes, ps3 gamers are “immature, ignorant, and wasting their lives on the hobby”…

    want proof? check the post history of the resident ps3 fanboys here; IVAN PSP, ROCA, you, Phranc, etc, etc…

    all loads of bs…

  101. Barnabe Jones:

    Way, way off topic… my birthday is this week. The GF said she got me games (plural). I only asked for the GOW collection.

    When we were watching TV, she got excited when a commercial for Dragon Age came on, and said how amazing it looked. So I think I might be getting it. Which is pretty cool. :)

  102. SW:

    But the collection has multiple ‘games’ ;)

    She suckered you with the collection making you think you were getting more than just it ;)

    Muahahahah :D

    “i was gaming before you’re dad ever paid your mom.”
    “yes, ps3 gamers are “immature,”

    .dot.

  103. Saber_HAHAha:

    I have an idea. If Ivan, Kev, and Jofa all commit serious crimes, they should be handcuffed together. With Jofa in the middle. All trapped in a room, with nothing but a Wii. That would be the ultimate lose-lose situation. Be good, you guys =P

    Just bringing a bit of comedy into the situation.

    And Barnabe, to have a girlfriend who buys you video games (and actually has a bit of a taste, it seems), consider yourself lucky. Karma must be on your side.

  104. JofaMang:

    @BJ

    Both those titles are on my shortlist, heh.

    @SW
    He might as well be saying:
    “you are so gay”
    and a couple lines later
    “Please insert this shampoo bottle up my ass”

    What ignorant douchebang internet warriors don’t understand, is that the only value that can attributed to a person’s contribute, is based on their contribution. What you say doesn’t mean more or less based on who you are. I can claim to be 80, or 15, and it doesn’t have any real effect on the value of my words. Good thing idiots like that identify themselves so easily.

    @Saber
    Haha, how would i be able to play anything weighed down by 20 pounds of shit, stuffed into 9 pound bags handcuffed to each arm?
    My wife is a gamer. Before I met her, I was sure that I would never want to be married at all. 5 years later, it is still awesome.

  105. JofaMang:

    KEV – who are you and why should we care what you think about anyone?

    In case you miss my point (very likely), don’t answer that.

  106. Saber_HAHAha:

    LOL at the “bags of shit” comment.

    Good news: I’m most likely picking up Demon’s Souls today. Oh boy… wish me luck. Most people survive Demon’s Souls, but they don’t ever come back the same…

  107. Roca.:

    I wonder why Kev even bother to come to this site

  108. JofaMang:

    He jerks off to your avatar, roca, isn’t it obvious?

  109. JofaMang:

    @Saber
    It has changed me, I have grown as a gamer. Though since taking break after the platinum, I have stopped shaking convulsively when my hands are void of a DS3. The crackpipe has been very effective!

  110. Saber_HAHAha:

    ROFL I remember in the PS2 days when I gamed a lot more, I was amazed that my hands’ natural positions were in the shape of the DS2. Index fingers higher and slightly more forward than ever before, etc. Or like the time back in Grade 7 (Oh I mean waaaaaay back in Grade 7 =P) when I grew a large, lead-stained callous on the left side of my right middle finger from my pencil. Awesome.

    But I’m sure that Demon’s Souls will have an effect on me. Just like Killzone 2 on Elite (beat it!!!@1) made every other FPS seem easy. I never thought about those poor people who are still playing that on Elite, no auto-aim, no reticule, rough ride. I never played a console RPG since Paper Mario, and definitely never played a Dungeon Crawler. I’m looking forward to it. I’m probably going to cry. A lot. But I’m ready.

  111. Barnabe Jones:

    SW, that’s actually a good point… we’ll have to wait and see.

    Saber, I would have to say it’s one of the most rewarding games I’ve played. The first time you beat Maneater and Flamelurker will be something you’ll remember forever. It just might take a few tries though…

  112. Roca.:

    BJ…when are you going to be on?

  113. JofaMang:

    I had Demonbrand on my first playthrough (R2 spear attacks FTW!) so flamelurker and Maneater weren’t bad. It was NG+ that humbled me, heh.

  114. Ivan_PSP:

    Saber_HAHAha:
    Be careful who’s name you play with. No one is save writing online anyone can be found. Just remember who you compare next time.

    Do you own a PLAYSTATION 3?

    Who has more than $500 on their PSN wallet? LoL i will never link my credit cards with the PSN again since you can’t get a refunds. I now gotta buy the entire store most likely movies.

    I’m playing Tomba and Jersey Devil this week.

  115. JofaMang:

    Ivan goes all E-thug on us. Next step in online delusions of grandeur is either a suicide threat or creation of support accounts (again). Since his ego is so large, I doubt fake suicide threats will happen.

  116. oldschool1987:

    @ Ivan: Bioshock ain’t Playstation exclusive lol

  117. Saber_HAHAha:

    @Ivan

    …I don’t get it

  118. twilight:

    Saber,
    You’re correct. The Xbox 360 games are always listed on the box as 1080p but the games do not have a native resolution of 1080p. It’s just a way to fool people who don’t know any better.
    I know what you mean. There is nothing like high definition. I have a 42 inch 1080p lcd t.v. that is properly calibrated. The picture quality is out of this world. I like high definition gaming. I don’t even care for watching non-high definition stuff any more. I really like blu rays. The picture and sound is incredible.

  119. Saber_HAHAha:

    Sounds a lot like me. I cringe whenever I see non-HD content on my TV. Mostly because of the screen burn that the bars can give (I have light screen burn on the sides that I can hardly notice, bad thing about plasmas), but the picture quality too. I owned a blu-ray player before I had a PS3, I should’ve got a PS3 in the first place (got it in April). Lets just say that blu-ray movies look fantastic. I sold Killzone 2 a few days ago since I’m done with it, but Uncharted 2 is pretty much what really shows it off. The sound too, has a difference.

    Listing a game as a resolution it is not is ridiculous. I like Bill Gates, but I hate the people who run Xbox just because of things like that. I give most of the credit of the 360s success to the developers who made those stellar games for it back in 2007.

    Plus, it annoys me when people throw blu-ray off, saying there is no difference. I’ve seen the difference, it is… substantial ;)

  120. Ivan_PSP:

    oldschool1987:
    I never said it was…

    Sony, Philips, TDK, Panasonic and Optware all plan to release 1 TB capacity discs in late 2016 while Maxell plans one for early 2020 with a capacity of 500 GB and transfer rate of 20 MB/s although HVD standards were approved and published on June 28, 2007, no company has released an HVD as of November 2009.

  121. oldschool1987:

    Just winding you up Ivan lol ;)

  122. twilight:

    There is a huge difference between blu ray movies and dvd’s. If anyone can’t tell the difference between the two formats, then they need to get their eyes checked.

  123. CarlB:

    “Marine usually suck in their job. I hate them i like more companies like Blackwater PMCs is my shit.”

    You like Blackwater Ivan? Interesting. Guess who hires us at 6 times pay to be their leaders, trainers, and field operators? Blackwater.

  124. Mike Ferro:

    @Kev,

    ” mike – ” I think the game innovates with the way it tells the story as it elevates the medium to a art form other games will try to catch up for years.”

    what a minute…you liked the storytelling so that’s “innovative”? oh i forgot…all things ps3 are innovative and grand to you…
    geez… ”

    I think your missing my point, by no means am I saying I liked the storytelling, I am saying the “way” the game tells the story, or the “vehicle” the story is driven by is innovative.

    For example there is one level where you play through a train crash – literally.
    The train is crashing down, getting dragged off the cliff bit by bit and your climbing up this massive wreckage as its sliding down.
    Another example is, your fighting trying to survive while a building is literally crumbling down- this is the level.

    Basically just about every cinematic event, Naughty Dog lets you play through it, while other studios may just make it a cut scene. As Adam Sessler talked about this is the merging of video games and cinematic story telling into a indistinguishable media form. Whether your impressed or not, kudos deserve to be given where its due.

  125. oldschool1987:

    @ Mike: Seriously don’t try to reason with Kev, his mind is made up on all things PS3. It’s like telling a rabbit to not like carrots lol.

  126. Ivan_PSP:

    Mike Ferro:
    Thanks… And yes i like how you can play while all is going on. One of my favorite level is the one on the train. I love how every level was design.

  127. JofaMang:

    Anyone with half a brain knows that kev is a troll who thrives off the attention. Therefore, I am guessing (since i believe mike has more than half a brain) that he wants to get kevin posting like an OCD schizo again, like the old days. I think i might have been able to work in a Mickey Rourke in Sin City quote into that, but am too lazy to put in the effort at this exact second. Futurama comes much easier.

    “If I wasn’t so lazy I’d get up and kick your ass”
    “but you are lazy, right?”
    “Don’t get me started…”

  128. Ivan_PSP:

    LMFAO so true

  129. kev:

    mike – “I think your missing my point, by no means am I saying I liked the storytelling, I am saying the “way” the game tells the story, or the “vehicle” the story is driven by is innovative.”

    face it; you’re a proven liar and rabid ps3 fanboy.

    next time just write, “All things ps3 are better than anything else ever seen in the industry”. You’ll get your message across and save bandwidth.

    i guess “innovation” is where you want to find it, right mike… ? lmao…

    “Whether your impressed or not, kudos deserve to be given where its due.” – i love your theory… too bad in ONLY applies to ps3 games, fanboy….lmao…

  130. phranctoast:

    @kev

    Apparently Mike is not allowed to have an opinion. Even an opinion shared by the majority of people that actually played the game. Is that correct kev?

    Now why should your opinion matter in this instance. Not only is it a fact that you have yet to play the game, you in fact are a proven liar and 360 fanboy.

  131. Roca.:

    damn…..why take the Uncharted 2 review so personal kev??

    let me guess? it score and sold better than your pathetic forza game. lmaoooo

  132. Roca.:

    GT5’s review is going to make him go nuts

  133. Ivan_PSP:

    I call for a kev immediate lifetime ban who’s with me?

    I guess kev only likes if they write only good things about the Xbox 360 and bad about our consoles. What a moron kev is the real fanboy. Mike should take action against this Xbots that keep harassing him.

  134. Roca.:

    Kev gets away with it because of his mental disability. his brain cells are not working properly and its getting worse with each passing day.

  135. phranctoast:

    If anything is clear while playing through MW2, I think it’s safe to say that it will not be offering up a legitimate GOTY challenge to the likes of Uncharted 2.

    Maybe Dragon’s Age will pull a fast one like Fallout 3 did last year and be the GOTY.

  136. CarlB:

    Dragon Age… I doubt it phranc, the game is too much of a step down from it’s PC counterpart. F3 was as well, but UC2 is a much better showcase title.

  137. kev:

    phranc – the point is; he ignores innovation in other consoles, their games and feature sets and ONLY states “innovation” with sony products..

    and here you are, defending him like the sociopathic fanboy that you are… nice…lmao…

  138. kev:

    Roca – you guys hyped GT5p also…and look where it’s at in the ratings….not good…lmao…

  139. phranctoast:

    I kept hearing best RPG in years. I figured if Fallout 3/Oblivion won GOTY and had no online component it’s not too far fetched of a thought.

    You are playing it though and thats what counts.

  140. Roca.:

    i wasnt even around here when GT5p was release. why dont you stop lying for once

  141. phranctoast:

    “phranc – the point is; he ignores innovation in other consoles, their games and feature sets and ONLY states “innovation” with sony products.”

    I guess thats true. Microsoft has been proven to be very innovative.

    They were the first with a Simulation driving game with Forza.

    The first with a karaoke game with Lipps.

    The first with a gameshow trivia game with Scene It.

    /sarcasm

    In fact I’m fairly surprised there isn’t a God of War clone on the 360. I guess with Dante’s Inferno you’ll have something that will be close but no cigar.

  142. JofaMang:

    Rofl, he is still using a 2.5 year old “$40 demo” as proof of what exactly. So cute. His uncle dad must be proud of his “finger-talky” skills.

  143. Ivan_PSP:

    phranctoast:
    But is multiplaform Dante Inferno so it doesn’t really count much.

    Yes Lips and Scene It are both a huge Sony ripoff.

    GT5P is game not not a demo. Demos are free. Plus GT5P looks way better then Forza Motorsport 3.

  144. kev:

    phranc – it’s funny you forgot that MS brought FPS to consoles in a mainstream fashion.

    meanwhile, all you sony fanboys claimed “all the xbox has is shooters”, last gen…. then try the “me too” philosphy with the ps3’s shooters that are supposedly “system sellers”.

    i guess you forgot about the features xbox live brought to gaming while sony plays the “me too” game, again…

    face it; you’re a sony schill.. you’ll never admit MS has done anything better than sony since hitting the market.

    and we wonder why the mainstream sees ps3 gamers as idiots….

  145. JofaMang:

    Your abuse of ellipses offends me as an intelligient user of english. You probably can’t relate.

  146. phranctoast:

    Most everything MS has done has been done in some form or another.

    Including everything on Xbox Live. Do you really think party chat is innovative? Wow. MS brings things out that I was doing on my PC years before the Xbox existed. They took others ideas, wrapped it in a bow and charged for it.

    I failed to mention Halo as there were plenty of FPS on consoles prior. Halo simply brought together an online component that while existing on other consoles wasn’t all that popular yet with console gamers. Ethernet and an HDD in every console was innovative.

  147. kev:

    phranc – the fact you have to move platforms to PC to compare to console gaming PROVES that MS has innovated the console industry to better reflect the gaming available to the virgin pc gamers….

    “Most everything MS has done has been done in some form or another.”

    that could be said of anything…pc gaming included…

    when halo launched in 01 what other fps “games” were that successful outside of Golden Eye? hint: none.

    what other console fps innovated the genre as much as Halo? hint: none.

    like i said, you’re a sony fanboy who will flat out refuse to accept reality… that’s ok…i’ll jsut point and laugh as usual….

  148. kev:

    btw; the first halo has no “online component” you friggin schill of a fanboy..lmao…

  149. Roca.:

    “when halo launched in 01 what other fps “games” were that successful outside of Golden Eye? hint: none.”

    wolfenstein, Doom, perfect dark (N64), and many more.

  150. phranctoast:

    thats all you got? Halo had online support on the PC you ass. you could also play competitive through system link.

    Anyway. I meant the brand, and not the specific title.

    oh… and drop the C, out of schill. lmao

  151. phranctoast:

    @Roca
    Don’t forget Unreal Tournament. The game they based their MP off of.

  152. kev:

    phranc – we’re not talking about pc gaming you ass. If you can’t keep up with the topic, please don’t join…..

    Roca – post the “many more” fps that were as innovative and successful as Halo. lmao….

    btw; none of those did everything Halo did… that’s called, “innovation”..

    phranc – UT is a bloodsport genius, while halo isn’t…. “based their MP off of”? only in your sony tinged fantasy world…lmao…

  153. kev:

    WOOPS!! scratch that last UT remark. I misread your post… first mistake ever….. :)

  154. Roca.:

    “post the “many more” fps that were as innovative and successful as Halo. lmao….”

    I just did…add Unreal Tournament to that list and Half life. you want me to keep going? counter strike? want more..lol

  155. Roca.:

    “UT is a bloodsport genius”

    nice :D

  156. kev:

    Roca – you named 3 games that did NOT have the innovation or sales of halo. then you said “and many more”..

    so…where’s the “many more”…

    or are you lying again…lmao…

  157. kev:

    Roca – it’s funny you have to reach for pc games to equate to xbox… while claiming it’s not innovative..

    it’s funny when you “pwn” yourself…lmao…

  158. kev:

    btw; i just found out that GOWIII won’t have online coop for the ps3 owners…..

    that sucks… my heart almost goes out to you. Coop online is a blast in many games… truly a shame.

  159. Roca.:

    PC games or not….in the end games will always be games no matter the console you play it on.

    and u seem to be forgetting halo 1 & 2 were on PC.

    but if you really wants to talk about success then CoD is the most successful FPS ever and guess what. its available on the PS3 ;)

  160. Roca.:

    ” Coop online is a blast in many games… truly a shame.”

    must of been a blast in ODST, co-op alone cost you about $60.

  161. kev:

    Roca – and not suprisingly, i’ve easily played $60 worth of gaming with ODST….

    it has more modes than coop. it’s funny when you ps3 fanboys make claims aobut games you don’t own…lmao..

  162. kev:

    roca – “in the end games will always be games no matter the CONSOLE you play it on.”

    right..we’re talking about console games…so why did you have to resort to pc games to make a point as a ps3 fanboy…? fanboys….lmao…

  163. kev:

    ps….i’ll check in later. gotta get some work done.

    sucks about God Of War III not having online coop while you ps3 fanboys swear the ps3 and psn has everything xbox live has….

    …apparently not…lmao…

  164. Roca.:

    just like you do the same about Uncharted 2, GT5, GT5p, GT4, GoW series.

    lmaoo…

  165. phranctoast:

    Whats innovative about Halo? Sales equate to innovation?

    The Halo brand just happened to be in the right place at the right time. Consoles online features were just taking off. Ps2 did’t even come with online built in at that time.

    This just reminds me of the douchey console owners (read children) that can’t comprehend that certain things existed before their console came to light.

  166. phranctoast:

    lol.. my work Internet gave out for a bit.

    “sucks about God Of War III not having online coop while you ps3 fanboys swear the ps3 and psn has everything xbox live has…. ”

    Doesn’t really suck at all. If you ever played a GOW game you would realize that online co op simply would not work in this type game.

    They would have to build a separate mode like Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 did, which btw was missing in NG2.

  167. JofaMang:

    “ps….i’ll check in later. gotta get some work done.”
    Translation:
    “These vicodin won’t wash themselve down with Jim Beam! Gotta kill some more brain cells, can still speak in partial senetences”

  168. Roca.:

    lmaoooo

  169. Roca.:

    @ Kev

    if you sometimes feel a lil useless, offended, or depressed….always remember that YOU were once the fastest and most victorious lil sperm out of millions.

  170. Ivan_PSP:

    LoL kev keeps getting own by us he is a total moron diluted and bitter and jealous.

  171. kev:

    So all jofa, ivan and roca have left is personal insults. Poor little fellas… maybe if their beloved PS3 wasn’t such a failure they wouldn’t be so pissed off…lmao…

    Oh well at least phranc tried to use some brain cells so I’ll reply:
    “Whats innovative about Halo? Sales equate to innovation? The Halo brand just happened to be in the right place at the right time. Consoles online features were just taking off. Ps2 did’t even come with online built in at that time.”

    Okay, prepare your “it doesn’t matter to me” or “pc already had this” excuse:

    1. halo was the first console game that had level sizes never seen before in a console game with instantaneous loading of the levels.
    2. the first console game to use normal and bump mapping with dynamic lighting
    3. the first console game that had AI that actually worked with you
    4. had a epic story that had usually been reserved for pc games. (this is subjective as most of the ps3 gamers would disagree, since they’re too young to understand the story)
    5. the first console FPS that had you driving/flying using the camera for control.
    6. It was the first game to release on consoles in DD5.1

    The Halo “brand” was not in the right place and right time, noob. Ed Fries hunted Bungie down. MS knows talent when they see it…unlike sony and their “halo killer” killzone franchise that has yet to live up to any of its hype or promises.

    Your post reminds me of how out of touch you hermit pc gamers are to think that everything gaming started with pc while ignoring the fact console and pc gaming are vastly different and that home gaming consoles were mainstream even as you pc hermits were still trying to figure out how to turn your pc on…. How many pc were on the market in 70’s when console gaming arrived? Hmmm….

    Of course if you were to ever leave your parent’s basement, you’d know this….

    “Doesn’t really suck at all. If you ever played a GOW game you would realize that online co op simply would not work in this type game”

    Next time just say, “it doesn’t matter to me”… it’s the best excuse you weenie pc gamers have used time and time again…

    Its odd you claim to know the gameplay when it hasn’t launched yet… *sigh* fanboys….lmao…

    I’m out for the evening. Jofa’s mom is having a sale, and I don’t want to miss it. :)

    Roca – it’s funny watching you run away from answering questions. Keep it up. Epic Cowardice…. LMAO!!

  172. Ivan_PSP:

    kev:
    You such a little troll stop being so damn bitter and jealous god damn it you just a damn embarrassment to your Xbots family. Face it Xbox 360 is trash with nothing useful.

  173. SW:

    Man whats with blorge these days.

    I’ve taken so many critical hits from walls of text its killing me here…

  174. harry sachz:

    “let me guess? it score and sold better than your pathetic forza game. ”

    So pathetic that it got a metarating of 92? Good point there, roca….

  175. Ivan_PSP:

    harry sachz:
    LoL that’s your best shot wow…

  176. harry sachz:

    @ Ivan,

    What are you jibbering on about now?

  177. ToshithegreaT:

    @ivan

    ???

    @ps3fg

    “PC games or not….in the end games will always be games no matter the console you play it on.”

    I swear i saw someone commenting Uncharted 2 is the best looking “console” game here, somewhere but
    eehh anyways

  178. Ivan_PSP:

    UNCHARTED 2: Among Thieves is the greatest game ever made in all aspect of the game .

  179. JofaMang:

    Did kev really just make a yo’ mama joke? Wow, heh, it’s getting even sadder.

  180. oldschool1987:

    Kev can you ever say anything nice?

  181. kev:

    oldschool – “Kev can you ever say anything nice?”

    if you do a post search you’ll see i will ONLY attack once attacked.

    the moral is; don’t attack me if you don’t like being attacked.

    i try to stick to gaming issues and stay on topic, but at least ONE of your fellow ps3 fanboys will show up and start the attacks, since they have nothing worthy from the ps3 or its games to use in debates.

    it’s truly sad that this is what sony has turned you into. a sad, pathetic, movie watcher who tries to convince complete strangers he didnt’ get ripped off by buying $600 ps3…

    jofa – No, little dude, *this* is sad:

    “These vicodin won’t wash themselve down with Jim Beam! Gotta kill some more brain cells, can still speak in partial senetences”

    …and it was all you….

  182. Roca.:

    why you keep on saying $600?

    that was the lunch price and it was worth it at that time because BD players were $1000.

    now the 360 launched for $400 with no HD player ($150 for a dead HD DVD add on), no wifi, no free online, no rechargable batteries, just 20GB, no HDMI port (what a joke), no optical output, no web browser etc.

    ur argument is pointless and stupid

  183. Ivan_PSP:

    Roca.:
    You just made him make the Xbox 360 look like shit.

    Okay PS3 was $600 with Blu-ray a 60GB HDD
    Xbox 360 was $400 no Blu-ray 20GB HDD and awful reliability not reliable plus back them no warranty from Microsoft. So most people either had to buy a PS3 or another Xbox 360 either way PS3 comes to be cheaper in price. 120 $150 Xbox Live $50 Wireless Adapter $100 Play in Charge Kit $20. Xbox 360 is still the most expensive console with the least features and built-in add-ons. Xbox 360 is pure crap.

  184. kev:

    roca – know what’s sad? even after all that “free” crap you say you got (while paying $600), the ps3 is STILL being outsold by the 360…..

    could it be that gamers don’t want/need all that extra crap sony is forcing them to pay for?

    all indications say Yes.

  185. kev:

    “Xbox 360 is pure crap.”

    ..and is outselling the ps3…making the ps3 less than crap… nice one, Ivan…LMAO!!

  186. Ivan_PSP:

    kev:
    You such a fanboy PS3 has been out selling the 360 since quite some time now. Next learn to write if you meant in worldwide sales yes Xbox is ahead but not much.

  187. phranctoast:

    “The Halo “brand” was not in the right place and right time, noob. Ed Fries hunted Bungie down. MS knows talent when they see it…unlike sony and their “halo killer” killzone franchise that has yet to live up to any of its hype or promises.”

    It was totally in the right place at the right time. You would have to be a complete ass not to see that. It capitalized on online gaming finally making it over to the consoles. oh and Halo was also originally a mac game. I guess MS had the for sight to steal another thing from apple. lmao

    “Your post reminds me of how out of touch you hermit pc gamers are to think that everything gaming started with pc while ignoring the fact console and pc gaming are vastly different and that home gaming consoles were mainstream even as you pc hermits were still trying to figure out how to turn your pc on…. How many pc were on the market in 70’s when console gaming arrived? Hmmm….”

    and your post reminds me as to why you shouldn’t talk about something you know little about. look into the history of video games before claiming shit like that. Not to forget the silly ignorant children that don’t know that First person shooters existed prior to their silly box. oh btw kev. The first RTS wasn’t Halo wars. lol

    Console gaming is cheaper than PC gaming which makes it more accessible to cheap little kids and therefore, makes sense as to why you never got into it.

    “Its odd you claim to know the gameplay when it hasn’t launched yet… *sigh* fanboys….lmao…”

    You do realize that there’s a demo out right? Gameplay vids have been around since E3….. One would have to assume that they weren’t going to completely redesign a winning formula anyway.
    Feel free to not comment on GOW at all anymore as you don’t know what your talking about. GOW3 was never going to have co op.

  188. phranctoast:

    “..and is outselling the ps3…making the ps3 less than crap… nice one, Ivan…LMAO!!”

    You seem to not like to look at the NPD or any other recent charts lately.

    The PS3 has been outselling the 360. Pretty impressive for not having the cheapest console on the market.

    So more people rather spend $100 more on the PS3 than the 360. Who can blame them. They’re probably irate 360 users. I know all my younger brothers friends have been migrating to the better console as of late. I find that pretty significant as I always judged the 360 to be for their demographic (they’re 8 years younger than me)

  189. kev:

    phranc – given the 200+ million customerbase of the playstation franchise, the ps3 *should* be outselling the competition at least 4:1.

    but here it is; only 2 good months out of 24…congrats….and *still* in far last place…

    it’s funny you equate 360 owners as younger when it has the most M rated games and was pretty much built on them. the fact is; you’re too much of a ps3 fanboy to see anything objectively.

    it’s been proven daily on this site….

    “It was totally in the right place at the right time. You would have to be a complete ass not to see that. It capitalized on online gaming finally making it over to the consoles. oh and Halo was also originally a mac game. I guess MS had the for sight to steal another thing from apple. lmao”

    halo 1 didn’t have xbox live support genius…go ahead…say “pc”… when the topic is consoles…idiot.

    who said halo was the first RTS? liar…

    geez…you ps3 fanboys are nothing if not horrible liars…lmao…

  190. kev:

    phranc – don’t you find it sad that you asked for list of what halo did that was innovativie, i provided a list, and you failed to acknowledge it?

    pathetic….

    “Console gaming is cheaper than PC gaming which makes it more accessible to cheap little kids and therefore, makes sense as to why you never got into it.”

    pc games are cheaper. the pc hermits love to remind us all of this little fact….

    it’s funny you consider mainstream as “little kids”… gawd, i hate gaming noobies..lmao..

  191. phranctoast:

    oh.. i see. So in order to get to your original point of Mike ignoring anything thats innovative on MS consoles you need to bring up Halo, which depending on the history of the site may or may not be there. I wonder if he dissed Halo.

    I’m well aware that the XBOX was the most powerful console on the market. As I said it was a PC in a box. Those Halo innovations you mentioned were the technological advances that PC games were doing that first appeared to be possible with a better spec’s machine/console. You seemed to forget the other “innovations” that the Halo series had that were also PC inventions. Recording video playback and map making.

    “pc games are cheaper. the pc hermits love to remind us all of this little fact….

    it’s funny you consider mainstream as “little kids”… gawd, i hate gaming noobies..lmao..”

    PC rigs aren’t though. A good video card will cost more than twice the price of the 360.

  192. SW:

    360 is just a ‘crippled’ PC in a box anywhoos.

    But hey, as long as you don’t have to make a decision (e.g. where you want to put your files) while installing the game, you’re not a ‘hermit’.

    In fact using a 360 is know to make you leet, 1337, uber, and maybe even give you some pwnage…

    Besides, everyone knows that console users are dumbwho need games to be simplified in order to get any enjoyment out of them (because 8+ buttons, and multiple stats in game are too taxing on the brain)…

    Stereotypes are fun :)

  193. oldschool1987:

    Jesus Kev your a fanatic! You seriously need to chill out.

    No one says anything or mentions your name but then you post something about Sony, regurgitating the same shit again and again.

    Tell me why do you hate this console so much? What has it done to you?

    I really don’t understand how you can go out your way to hate this machine lol.

    And you always say were let down by the PS3 time and time again and other thing like that, well if that was true then I wouldn’t still have my PS3 would I?

    If it truly was as shit as you and other fanboys make out then we wouldn’t still be playing it.

    I don’t mind that you don’t like the PS3 that’s your choice but when you come on and start saying everyone who plays the PS3 is retarded and becomes liars… well lets just say it’s a tad pathetic.

  194. kev:

    oldschool – why?

    1. sony sold me 3 malfunctioning ps2 last gen while blaming ME for their poor workmanship
    2. sony build a huge following on affordable gaming and pissed it all away this gen by pricing the ps3 out of most gamers budgets. then blamed us for not working “two jobs” (Kuturagi) to own one.
    3. their fanboys…. worst ilk in the history of gaming.
    4. being forced to pay for things i don’t want or need.
    5. no Halo
    6. sony’s claim that “rumble is last gen” when it released w/o it, then added it later hosing ALL early adopters.
    7. their arrogant stance of gamer will buy it simply b/c it has Sony on it.
    8. sony’s lack of forsight into online gaming. they are merely followers now. bleh…

    want proof of the liar comment? read any of ivan’s or roca’s posts. you know they lie, but as fellow ps3 fanboys, you REFUSE to intervene, leaving me to do it.

    hey, the xbox entered the market with an olive branch and we xbox gamers took crap from 100 million ps2 owners for years. now that the tables have turned, you ps3 fanboys aren’t man enough to take it in return. proving you’re just a bunch of whining, sniveling, (and yes) stupid, spoiled little weenies that refuse to acknowledge any other game as being better or more advanced than your ps3 games. (even ignoring the science, reviews, and testimonials of players who’ve used the game, while you have not)

    hope that clears it up for you.

  195. Ivan_PSP:

    kev:
    Keep making shit up LMFAO we all know PS2 has and had a trillion time better quality then Xbox 360 a 10 year old console. Stop being so damn jealous already deal with facts PS3 is supreme power. Xbox 360 will always be know for RED RING OF HELL and e74 plus vacuum cleaner fan and extremely priced hard disk drive and no blu-ray disc. You gotta get outer the denial shit you on is sad to see how dumb and ignorant your are Xbot.

  196. Roca.:

    KEV:

    “1. sony sold me 3 malfunctioning ps2 last gen while blaming ME for their poor workmanship”

    -lmaooo

    “2. sony build a huge following on affordable gaming and pissed it all away this gen by pricing the ps3 out of most gamers budgets. then blamed us for not working “two jobs” (Kuturagi) to own one.”

    -I bought mine with part-time job while in college. so stop bitching about it

    “3. their fanboys…. worst ilk in the history of gaming.”

    -have you looked at ur self lately?

    “4. being forced to pay for things i don’t want or need.”

    -actually they gave us many things for free, back when the PS3 was $600, a BD player was $1000, wifi $100, HDMI port at no extra cost and FREE online. $600 was a bargain back then.

    “5. no Halo”

    -good…no Halo but gave MGS4, LBP, KZ2, U1 & U2, R1 & R2, R+C and R+C 2, Demon’s Souls, Valkirya Chronicles, GoW collection, Infamous..and coming up MAG, WKC, FF14, GoW3, Heavy Rain, GT5 (u love this one) and many more….Halo wont be missed trust me.

    “6. sony’s claim that “rumble is last gen” when it released w/o it, then added it later hosing ALL early adopters.”

    -its ok…its better then having to buy another console just for HDMI, or because it has a better CPU lol. or Wifi or pay to play online for that matter.

    “7. their arrogant stance of gamer will buy it simply b/c it has Sony on it.”

    Sony = reliable
    MS = Crap/overpriced

    “8. sony’s lack of forsight into online gaming. they are merely followers now. bleh…”

    online play is free and always will be free. the difference between XBL and PSN doesnt justified the $50 subs fees….only fanboys will not see they are getting raped

  197. kev:

    Roca – so I’ve listed the valid reasons why I, and most ps2 owners, do not like the ps3 and in typical fanboy fashion offer responses such as “LMAO”?

    Don’t ask any more questions. You’re not man enough to handle the answers. …

    You offered no educated response in any of your fanboy rant. You = joke.

    $600 is not “free” you blithering idiot…lmao… funny you had to get a second job to pay for the ps3 that has less games, less sales, less online features, and less gamers to play with. Actually more sad than funny….

    It’s funny you forgot sony charged for the network adapter last gen to go online… “free online”? not really…. Online gaming didn’t start in this gen, noob…

    No ps game has ever matched halo’s appeal or gameplay, but nice list of games…lmao..

    Sony got sued in the past for poor workmanship. It’s funny how I have to keep reminding you. They’re not as reliable as you like to claim. In fact some stats have the ps3 breaking down at about a 10% rate… not good with a $600 toy…

    I have to thank you tho. You’ve proven to the world with your response that I was on target with my “ps3 gamers are ilk” comment. You’re simply the worst type of gamer there is. This is why the industry would be better without sony in it.

    If sony’s losses on the back of the ps3 continue, it may not be long before they are out of the biz…

    on the bright side; you have Ivan on your side with the “trillion times” commment…. this guy is your ps3 leader here… .and you wonder why no gamer can take you ps3 guys seriously? lmao…

  198. Ivan_PSP:

    kev just got owned again he a true Xbot.

  199. phranctoast:

    kev could have answered oldschools question without writing a thesis if he simply said “cuz im an stooopid fanboi”

  200. Roca.:

    “$600 is not “free” you blithering idiot…lmao…”

    neither was the $400 launch price for the 360
    or the $50 annual fee to play online
    or the $100 for wifi
    or the $150 for a dead HD-DVD add on
    or the 20 for recharable batteries
    or another $300-$400 for another console with HDMI
    or the $150 to a 120GB HDD.

    add those up…and then see those getting charge for everything the PS3 has for free.

    Kev: “It’s funny you forgot sony charged for the network adapter last gen to go online… “free online”?”

    online wasnt not standard on console back then, but they made it standard with the PS2 slim. but as of today Wifi is starndard for all current gaming system including portable…but the 360 is the expection. and they are charging $100 for it.

    Kev: “It’s funny you forgot sony charged for the network adapter last gen to go online… “free online”?”

    you love lying huh..I said I had a “single” part-time job while in college.

    Kev “In fact some stats have the ps3 breaking down at about a 10% rate… not good with a $600 toy”

    many stats have the 360 breaking down at about 55% rate…not for any electronic device. PERIOD!

  201. oldschool1987:

    Kev I gotta say …I think I’m falling in love with you! When you act all manly and know everything it makes me sooo hard!

    Keep giving it to them god damn fanboys baby! lmao

  202. kev:

    roca – “online wasnt not standard on console back then, but they made it standard with the PS2 slim”

    actually, online was standard…in the xbox..

    oh…but that doesn’t count, becuase it’s not sony..lmao…

    oldschool – i thought so. you were constantly looking for my attention. i’m flattered but you might want to try Roca..i heard he “swings” that way… lmao…

  203. oldschool1987:

    I don’t want Roca! I want you and only you cupcakes ;) lmao

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