Naughty Dog focusing on multiplayer aspect of Uncharted 2
Uncharted 2 is an awesome game and has won GoTY awards by many sites. Not only does the it have a great single player campaign, it also has a stellar co-op and multiplayer mode. However, one thing it was lacking was a complex stats page.
It looks like the folks at Naughty Dog wanted to focus on the online multiplayer aspect of Uncharted 2 now. The developer revealed that DLC for the co-op would be arriving shortly. To make life easier, Naughty Dog re-crafted the entire Uncharted 2 Web site in order to show all kinds of interesting stats.
It seems like there is even a Career section where you can track the progress of your online multiplayer statistics. There will also be a dedicated Match History, Weapons and Medals section as well. Looks like the developers are going full out in order to support the online community. It would have been nice to have all of this during launch. I suppose its better to get it now then never.
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January 6th, 2010
HH,
Finally got my imported copy of Left 4 Dead 2. Let me know when you want to have a game.
January 6th, 2010
Naughty Dog still fail because the online stats built in the game is a JOKE. Awesome game horrible stat tacking in the game also no customization allow unless you in a fucking party. I still manage to enjoy the game a lot they need to care for the game itself not the damn website.
January 6th, 2010
I have the game and the only MP aspect I played was through the beta. I still haven’t gotten the two MP trophies.
What I played in the beta was great. With all the new games that came out I have been focusing more on SP lately all together. I still need to get back to this game and MW2.
currently playing
Prototype and Assassins Creed 2.
January 6th, 2010
phranctoast:
You playing 2 crappy ass games. UNCHARTED 2: Among Thieves is awesome you should finish the story mode is a non stop fun ride.
January 6th, 2010
@Ivan
I finished the Story mode weeks ago. The topic was about MP so that’s why I brought it up.
Haven’t opened Assassins creed 2 yet, but Prototype is far from crappy.
January 6th, 2010
Is prototype worth the but phran? I been sitting on the fence about that one. It looks bad ass from what I’ve seen but I aslo heard it wasn’t to good.
January 6th, 2010
“but” lol I mean buy
January 6th, 2010
worth a buy? Depends on how much you spend. I got it in Kmart after returning the ps3 wireless keypad for the controller because it’s more or less useless to me, so i picked up the game.
Would have gotten InFamous if they had it and the only other tempting offer at the price was Chronicles of Riddick but that’s cheap enough on Amazon if I ever get bored.
The game is very entertaining. You build up your powers really quickly. I’m about halfway through the main missions and I have what I believe almost everything I can purchase.
It reminds me in a way of Assassins creed with the ability to run and go anywhere (even if you running up walls rather than climbing them).
My early Review:
Story:7.5
Graphics:7.5
Presentation:9
Controls:7.5
Lasting Appeal:8
Online: 0
Overall: 8
Solid game, that’s seems like a decent purchase but an awesome rental.
January 6th, 2010
inFAMOUS and Prototype are not even close to similar, inFAMOUS is actually awesome to own.
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January 6th, 2010
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January 6th, 2010
Online multiplayer would be better if games didn’t carry personal stats. They seem to be all that people care about when playing online.
I think without them, there would be less cheating/boosting and moaning about them in general.
Should just let people concentrate on having fun.
Pretty cool to see Naughty Dog adding stuff to their game though
January 6th, 2010
@Virus
People have been cheating prior to stat tracking.
This is kind of off topic but similar enough to the discussion so here I go…
While not exactly stat tracking as the story defines I needed to put my two sense in.
I’ve seen both sides of it. With the UT games everyone was the same so no one had any unfair advantage other than skill.
With COD games the advancement is good and drives people to play the game more to unlock levels and additional weaponry.
While the second way sucks for the newbie, it creates a desire to strive more by adding a rpg quality to it.
Both ways have the pro’s and cons.
January 6th, 2010
ViRuS:
Naughty Dog did not added anything it was just to the website the game has awful stat tracking for online.
January 6th, 2010
I just bought a PSP Go from SonyStyle after watching this cool video it was a must.
youtube.com/watch?v=Xrqf1UBhGts
January 6th, 2010
^^^^This guy is still here??? Anyways, Uncharted 2 is f****n awesome guys!!! The best part is when Drake is climbing up the train getting ready to fall off the cliff! Epic scene.
January 6th, 2010
Liquid, thought I would stop by and say FUCK YOU….shithole.
January 6th, 2010
Borderlands had weapons leveling out there before MW2… this game just isn’t getting enough attention, so much fun.
“Xbox 360 is most-used game console, Nielsen says” (Jan. 6, 2010):
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-10426467-17.html
January 6th, 2010
Anything they can do for UC2 to increase replayability will help, but they can’t wait too long or they will lose a lot more sales than if that content or those features were released earlier. UC2′s strength lies in it’s single player and polish though… I would think if they wanted to do MP right they would focus on new co-op quest (w/single player option) content as found in Borderlands.
January 6th, 2010
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â”â”â”â”┃　┃　　　　┗â”┳┳â”â”› It’s about time for another ban. Gamerblorge, thanks for the time being. Unfortunately I have business elsewhere. To all my jelquing choooooooodes, it’s been fun while it lasted. And to all of you two faced FUCKS, who pissed me off, go fuck your self.
And to everyone else, Happy New Year!!!!! The Future of Sega wishes you guys the best! I officially retire from this nonsense.
Dave or Mike, you can delete my account, block my ip, barbque it, fry it, I don’t give a fuck. Thanks you guys! The Future of Sega is no more. Goodbye!
January 6th, 2010
you really have some mental issues dude! but anyways *sayonara*
January 6th, 2010
The co-game designer of Uncharted 2 has confirmed a sequel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_received_by_Uncharted_2:_Among_Thieves
January 6th, 2010
@Carlb
Ratchet and Clank games had weapons leveling before Borderlands.
While I would love more co op mission packs, single player mission packs are hit or miss. They seem to favor the open world games more (Oblivion, GTA, Fallout 3, Borderlands), while the other linear mission packs get left in the dust (Tomb Raider, TFU)
I personally believe it has to do with pricing structure.
It may be easier for someone to drop $7 on a couple of new maps than $20 on unproved missions.
While I love The Force Unleashed, I haven’t been able to swallow the price of the packs.
@Sega.
Adios.
January 6th, 2010
the $7 statement was in reference to FPS type map packs, in case that was confusing.
January 6th, 2010
@harry
il do some L4D2 with ya if I get the chance
January 6th, 2010
Harry
I’ll run a game of Left 4 Dead 2. I’ll hit you online when I see you or Visa Versa.
January 6th, 2010
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January 6th, 2010
lol.
AMEX Versa.
January 6th, 2010
“as if Blu-ray dics weren’t big enough, a new report has revealed that they’re about to get even bigger. Thanks to new production methods, the old 25GB per-layer storage capacityfor BDs has been increased to 33.4GB
Read and write at 33.4 GB per layer will be implemented thanks to the use of partial response maximum likelihood (PRML) signal processing. The new method can continue to use the existing Blu-ray optics: a blue-violet laser diode with a 405 nm wavelength, and an object lens with a numeric aperture (NA) of 0.85.
The Important part us that Sony is a huge supporter of the new method, so it would appear that the PS3 developers have even more disc space to fill with uncompressed madness. Final Fantasy can have even more graphics and Metal Gear Solid can finally realize its dream of the ultimate six-hour cutscene”
January 6th, 2010
future of gayga
http://gamer.blorge.com:80/2009/12/30/looking-forward-to-gaming-in-2010/#comments
ive replied to your pathetic insults. do me a favour and die
January 6th, 2010
On Jan. 4, 2010, Sony, in association with Panasonic, announced plans to increase the storage capacity on their Blu-ray discs from 25GB to 35.4GB. The increased discs, according to Sony, will be readable on current Blu-ray Disc players with a firmware upgrade. No date has been set to include the increased space, but according to Blu-ray.com “it will likely happen sometime later this year.”
January 6th, 2010
@ Robert and CAD,
Definitely. I’ve got the UK version of the game (not the gimped Aussie version) so it shouldn’t be toning your game down when we get online. I was playing it yesterday when an Aussie joined the game, next thing I know, no more dead bodies after I shot them. Kinda ruined some of the fun.
January 6th, 2010
Righto harry.
Blu-ray for PC at home?
WTF for?
Too little, too late, inflexible & laughably expensive compared to (much bigger) hard drives.
January 6th, 2010
Cool. Now the whole Extended Edition of each LOTR movie will actually fit on one disc (if they chose not to go with the 50gig)
January 6th, 2010
when are they going to release the BD verions of LOTR? I’ve been waiting for it for the longest time, im glad they finally released the Matrix and the Bourne Trilogy
January 6th, 2010
the storage increase on BD will also help 3D movies and 3D gaming
January 6th, 2010
You can pre order the theatrical versions now Roca. It’s due to release on April 6th.
I’m not touching this until the Extended Edition though. Friggin double dipping Warner.
I hear the EE wont be released until 2011 with anticipation for the Hobbit. Sons of whores!
January 6th, 2010
Speaking of 3D movies and gaming. There’s been a ton of news over at blu-ray.com about the players and 3D tech. Must be a prelude to CES which starts tomorrow.
January 6th, 2010
Cell Broadband Engine
youtube.com/watch?v=XlGak4pBjpo
God of War 3 – Demo Walkthrough 20 Minutes (HD 720p)
youtube.com/watch?v=Xjc-IUco01s
January 6th, 2010
yeah, its the 3D is the big thing at CES
the EE is coming out in 2010?? jesh I think I have no choice but the get the theatrical version for now
January 6th, 2010
2010 = 2011
January 6th, 2010
I can’t wait for Lord the Rings to come out on blu ray. This is one of my favorite movies of all time. I will be getting this whenever it comes out on blu ray.
January 6th, 2010
Roca
“the storage increase on BD will also help 3D movies and 3D gaming”
Do tell us more.
Do you know how big Blu-ray has to be to show Avatar at home in 3D?
If the disc was going to be full in 2D @ 50gb
(and if not why not?)
then how does a marginal boost in blank disc size help?
(Has this increase in disc size even been confirmed as making the move to retail movie discs?)
Double the number of frames/images (which is how this version of 3D works) would indicate 100gb is needed so increasing the 2 layers from 25gb to 33gb isn’t enough
(and it’s worth pointing out that no disc actually uses the ‘full’ 25gb or the ‘full’ 50gb).
More than 2 Blu-ray layers is as likely as 3 or 4 layer DVD, theoretically possible (and it has been for years) but no chance of it happening in reality for the consumer.
Blu-ray as it is already requires firmware updates to ‘fix’ certain movie playback issues – and that is without counting the mandatory updates everyone will need the next time they re-jig the BD+ ‘security’.
The last thing the format needs right now is another round of telling everyone (except the PS3 owners, surprise surprise) that their Blu-ray players are obsolete…..unless they really are going to live with the format locked into being little more than a game console format?
So, a brand HD TV
(which won’t even be mass-market for at least 6 – 12mths),
an undecided type of 3D glasses
(which may or may not be relatively expensive) and
a possibly a need for a new crop of Blu-ray standalones
(which will entail informing all adopters to date that they have an obsolete player).
Not exactly what anyone (sane) would call a recipe for rapid mass-market penetration.
January 6th, 2010
what is your prob with blu ray? how does it affect you?
January 6th, 2010
Yeah, nevermind the honest & reasonable questions.
Everyone should just take what they are given and accept what they are told.
…..and when they’re not even told something just go ahead, turn off you brain and start inventing your own BS
FFS, fanboys, what a joke.
January 6th, 2010
@happy
what I read says the increase would be 50% and not 100%
January 6th, 2010
phranctoast
Even if that is so and it is ‘only’ 50% that’s still indicating, for no loss of quality, a 75gb disc with 37.5gb layers is necessary.
(and lets be honest a lot of high def transfers are pi$$-poor and very ordinary looking as it is nevermind deliberately going along with a technically imposed decline)
January 6th, 2010
Robertcarr has a 360? Robert do you own both consoles? I had you slotted as a PS3 guy. I should get your Gamertag.
January 6th, 2010
Happy I’m not sure about needing that much space to do 3D. The 360 game of Avtar does 3D and that’s a DVD9. Mind you need a 3DTV, Glasses, and HDMI.
January 6th, 2010
happy if the movie fits on a 25gig disc 50% more would put it at the new size. Only if a movie entirely takes up a 50 gig disc will you need 75gigs.
January 6th, 2010
its funny how HH writes his own personal opinion and expect us to take it seriously. I’ll get my info from the BD manufactures, thanks for your useless input
http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=9E92AC12-1A64-6A71-CEBEDBA6E24DC967
h**p://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/Blu-ray-Storage-Increases-Pave-the-Way-for-3D-HDTV-Content.shtml
“The Blu-ray Disc Association today published details of the final specification for 3D-enhanced Blu-ray video. Simply titled Blu-ray 3D, the format will send a stereoscopic 1080p image but, despite the extra data, will only use about 50 percent more data than a traditional, 2D-only image. The relatively efficient storage is helped by an efficient variant of the H.264 video code known as Multiview Video Coding (MVC) that is also backwards-compatible with 2D devices.”
h**p://www.electronista.com/articles/09/12/17/3d.blu.ray.spec.is.2d.compatible.efficient/
don’t listen to HH, 3D is just 50% more of what the BD version is
January 6th, 2010
most BD movies are 10GB to 17GB, depends on the extra contents. the movie along average about 7-10GB.
and of course a 2 layer BD disc is 50GB and soon will be 66.8GB
idk why is with HH and Blurays
January 6th, 2010
but isnt HH scared of the truth? next he will be telling us blu ray isnt high def at all.
January 6th, 2010
@cad
Unfortuntly I have all 3 but my gamertag is RobertCarr316
January 6th, 2010
LOL hh and cad think HD DVD was the only ture HD.
January 6th, 2010
Roca
“will only use about 50 percent more data than a traditional, 2D-only image”
Which means that for the best quality movies which use more than 44gb even the new size disc isnt enough.
Like I said an artificial limitation.
….naturally this is assuming that the new disc size will see the light of day for movies and will work with all the hardware brought out to date.
None of which is assured at this point in time.
What is it with me & Blu-ray?
Oh, I dunno, maybe its the way they had a time-wasting & incredibly dumb (read greed-driven) format war and how they have ended up foisting a ‘still in development’ high def format on the market in such a stupid way that practically guarantees movies on discs are over.
All high def can look forward to is being split between a multitude of niche formats until digital distribution is ready.
Way to go. Idiots.
January 6th, 2010
ncassie
Yeah, the problem for your idiot fanboy approach to this is that the format you cheer on is guaranteed to fail
(in it’s original intention of ‘becoming the next DVD’).
The one thing HD DVD had going for it above all else was that it was a complete & finished product, unlike Blu-ray which has only just ditched it’s ‘final’ profile 2.0 status to go back into development to play around with 3D, rendering all stand-alone hardware sold to date absolescent.
They couldn’t f*ck things up further if they tried…..and the fanboy element whining about how PS3 will do all of this with a firmware just illustrates perfectly how Blu-ray is a format revolving totally around a game console.
Niche status guaranteed.
January 6th, 2010
CAD
I was talking about movies, not games.
Xbox games are pretty much completely free of any disc size constraint, to all intents and purposes now, so long as you have a hard drive
January 6th, 2010
If you want to compare the two, HD DVD was actually a more complete format from the get-go. Blu Ray had to catch up after the demise of HD DVD with the 2.0 profile etc.
Unfortunately, the better product does not always dictate the winner. History shows us that Sony’s Betamax video tapes were better than VHS however we all know how that turned out.
January 6th, 2010
DVD is pretty dead for me, the last time I bought a dvd were LOTR 1 thru 3, which I convert to digital H264 format. Blu-ray is specific to living room only unless BD version of ‘UP’ came with dvd, BD and digital. There’s no portability so increasing the layer size doesn’t make a difference whatsoever. Sony should make a portable version but then again the price range will b in thousand. Anyone kno how long it take to convert Blu ray movie to 1080P H.264 or MKV format?
January 6th, 2010
Indeed harry.
The thing is I’d have liked to see high def on disc get a good run, there’s a lot of classic stuff which will probably never get transferred now as the emphasis stays with the game console guys and the latest shallow Hollywood b*llocks.
I’m a lover of film, not formats and Blu-ray, for film lovers, has been a disaster.
January 6th, 2010
Mister X
Depends on your CPU, RAM and the software.
January 6th, 2010
@happy
It took me an hour using dvdfab to encode 1 pass to 850 by 480 H.264 for almost 2 hour long movie. I am using AMD Quad core with 6 GB ram. Depending on speed of blu ray drive on my PC, I am betting half a day worth to encode which is f*cking insane
January 6th, 2010
HH
next time link your rants, its hard to know when your just trolling, hating or speaking the truth
January 6th, 2010
Mister X
Quad core is a good start and you’ve plenty of RAM.
I’d sit down if I were you cos if you think 1hr was a long wait, well, read on……
Now I don’t encode myself but I know people that do and people who are very talented amatuers at it.
There are softwares out there that have anyone with a PC convinced they have the talent for this (and they are much mistaken).
Skills, experience and a detailed knowledge are required to produce the best results.
Here’s the bit you’re going to love.
I know of one guy that had one pass (and you really ought not be thinking anything less than 2 pass) take 16hrs.
The 2nd pass was longer.
Yes it was a long movie and there were deblocking things done and all the rest but it can be a long wait.
It’s hard to give general rule of thumbs cos, as I said, there are a lot of variables.
If you’re serious about learning this stuff I’d try and get in touch with a high def group on IRC and see how you get on.
Good luck.
January 6th, 2010
“the best quality movies which use more than 44gb”
is that a Discovery Channel 12hr documentary in HD + commercials?
January 6th, 2010
@happy
I only encode because I like the portability and watched it mostly on Viewsonic VDP400 player which I can easily hook it up via component to any tv I want including my laptop. The bottom line is not to make the best encoding but just enough to be watchable. However the interesting part is the HD because it will be nice to encode a movie of BD and watch high def in any big screen tv.
16 hours is just ridiculous. At the most 3 hours is adequate.
January 6th, 2010
I actually supported the High Definition format first. I liked the fact that the discs were region free and the fact that the format was a more stable format at the time. When I realized the high definition format was about to go under, I unloaded everything and traded it in for top value before the official announcement came out that Hd dvd would be no more. I knew it was the end for Hd dvd when Warner Brothers jumped ship. All blu ray players need to support whatever format of blu ray discs that come out not just the Ps3. This is a valid point that was mentioned. People will be furious if they buy a blu ray player that will not be able to support the new blu ray discs that they purchase. Unfortunetely, there are still some blu ray players that are still having problems playing certain blu ray discs and these are not just the budget blu ray players either. This is why many people purchase the Ps3 system as well. They know that the Ps3 will play any type of blu ray discs with no problem.
January 6th, 2010
@twilight
Remember the DIVX format? I think it was circuit city that market it where u can buy a movie for $5 and the first time u hit play on that specific player, u have up to 2 days to watch it unlimited which after that, movie was locked until you pay another $5.
The F*ck up thing is I got version 1.0 player and won’t play ver 2.0 disc. I was really pissed. If blu-ray is like that then all I can say is WOW..
January 6th, 2010
correction
“I got version 1.0 player and won’t play ver 2.0 disc”
Actually I had trouble playing DVD Matrix regular DVD with ver 1
January 6th, 2010
From what I hear, I think the older blu ray players can play newer discs, but the interactive BD live stuff isn’t available to them.
One thing that swayed me into spending the extra to get a PS3 over a blu ray player was that the PS3 was updatable to play this type of content.
January 6th, 2010
Heck ya, finally a blu ray worth buying
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/divx-plustm-hd-technology-first,1108319.shtml
January 6th, 2010
Roca
You see here you go again, you can always be relied upon to roll in here to champion the format and yet when it comes down to it you obviously know f*ck all about it.
You sit laughing about ads and whatever stupidity passes for thought in your idiot fanboy head but unfortunately for Blu-ray the facts are that there must be quality reductions to cater for the size of the biggest Blu-ray movies.
Once again you just illustrate how you are merely a fanboy supporting a format and that in truth you have no idea about the films themselves.
Here’s a quick quizz.
Here are 10 recent Blu-ray releases, what size in gbs are the following –
Kingdom of Heaven
Fame
I love you Man
Che pt 1
Harry Potter & the Chamber of Secrets (ex vers)
Bruno
Jerry Maguire
Step Brother
Twilight
A Perfect Getaway
If you answered “more than 44gbs” to all of them then you have a clue.
twilight
I wasn’t prepared to pas up on the HD DVD bargains, I got a shed-load of high def films for peanuts (150+).
The spare player incase of accident or breakdown was also so cheap.
Ultimately if Blu-ray ever does get its act together for PC (which is looking less and less likely the more time passes on this) I can always rip them to BD, which is a little ironic.
Mister X
Anyone daft enough to buy a Blu-ray player withoput net connectivity (meaning a hell of a lot of profile 1.0 & 1.1 players) has serious trouble every time they muck about with the security &/or need a firmware fix for new movies.
Just like HD DVD was pestered about whether the early players would be able to playback the triple layer 51gb disc or the 34gb dual & 17gb single layer discs (which were about to happen as the format was canned) so it is now open to question how every Blu-ray player currently out there will handle a shift to this 33gb layer disc.
If they toast everyone who currently has a stand-alone I’d say that pretty much ensures Blu-ray stays in the PS3 niche with the negative publicity.
January 6th, 2010
Roca.:
Don’t listen to this morons Xbots you 35.4GB per layer sweet also we will only need a firmware upgrade to use it. I have a Blu-ray burner i hope they make blank disc also. Blu-ray is the future of movies HD-DVD was destroy.
January 6th, 2010
“If they toast everyone who currently has a stand-alone I’d say that pretty much ensures Blu-ray stays in the PS3 niche with the negative publicity.”
That’s y every ps3 fanboy always say free blu ray in ps3
January 6th, 2010
Ivan
You see you’re at it too.
Another one who is a fanboy of the brand but who sadly knows f*ck all squared about the actual product and the tech involved.
Unless it’s covered in simpleton’s a-b-c kiddie steps on some fanzine website or mag you’ve no idea, right?
….go on, admit it, you’re a school boy with a saturday job badgering & lecturing poor passersby in the local electrical store.
We’ve all seen your type.
The fact is you won’t actually ever see 33gb a layer, just like nobody ever actually got 25gb or 50gb from the current discs, you can knock off at least 2.5gbs
(going by what we’ve seen so far with current discs).
January 7th, 2010
Save your crap for someone who cares LMFAO. Face defeat already stop the denial is pathetic. Blu-ray Disc is our future for games/movies/music and everything media. HD DVD was destroy by Sony’s empire of supporters wipe out extinct for life. That’s why Microsoft didn’t added as standard on Xbox 360 they had no fate on it which now backfire multi disc LoL.
Cya in hell LoL.
MisterX:
Free Blu-ray drive on every PS3, thanks for that.
January 7th, 2010
Happyhockum,
I didn’t stay with the Hd dvd format at the time because I was too worried about being out of luck if the system broke. I was thinking at that time that I didn’t want to be stuck with a bunch of movies and nothing to play the movies on. I still sometimes question the types of movies that make it out on to the blu ray format only. I am am really into films. I see what you mean. They think that you are just trying to totally just bash the blu ray format. However, you are also speaking from the point of view from someone who is truly into films. From this point of view, the selection of titles available on blu ray do come up short.
Mister X,
Most of the blu ray players today are much better. However, many of the players still struggle with with java heavy discs and the different types of blue ray disc protection on certain blu ray discs. It causes problems with many of the blu ray players.
January 7th, 2010
No Ivan, Sony is your wet-dream, that’s all.
You have a hard-on for a CE corp.
You invent and lie about the kit you have to people you don’t even know on the net
(Ivan claimed to have bought a Sony Vaio with a 500gb SSD in June 09).
How sad & pathetic does that make you?
January 7th, 2010
Sony “Leveraging” PSN Services for Other Sony Electronics
1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3177522
January 7th, 2010
on the PSN the Full 1080p version of Harry Potter & the Chamber of Secrets about 9.5GB, just like I said, the movie alone without all the extra stuff sizes at around 7-12GB.
January 7th, 2010
Roca.:
Blu-ray Disc films take over 30GB if you check on the store is a bit lower in size weird.
January 7th, 2010
heh why did I think of the South Park episode with the ‘Chamber Of Farts’ when Roca mentioned that movie?
January 7th, 2010
lol @ Harry
January 7th, 2010
@Happy
“If you answered “more than 44gbs†to all of them then you have a clue.”
I guess it’s good that HDDVD went the way of the dodo. It wouldn’t even be able to handle that in its current state.
All this anti Blu ray talk really makes me believe you are simply a bitter Red fanboy. Your side lost…sorry..get over it.
“Indeed harry.
The thing is I’d have liked to see high def on disc get a good run, there’s a lot of classic stuff which will probably never get transferred now as the emphasis stays with the game console guys and the latest shallow Hollywood b*llocks.
I’m a lover of film, not formats and Blu-ray, for film lovers, has been a disaster.”
A lot of classics owned by MGM/Sony. Disaster as it is..i guess… did you plan on those classics making it to HDDVD?
Here you go. Here’s a warner one for you
h**p://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Gone-with-the-Wind-Blu-ray/758/
Also on a technical basis video and audio was better on Blu ray.
More space and higher bit rates makes that possible. Additional space made way for Uncompressed Audio and movies encoded at compressed formats (not Mpeg 2) using a higher bitrate would look better than the alternative.
True that the HDDVD spec was finalized first so some early adopters could be left in the cold, but features solely for “extras” shouldn’t be a factor that makes that format better as opposed a format where the actual “movie” can look and sound better.
Lets see the pros vs cons
Pro-HDDVD-spec finalized first so network connections and HDi were finished prior to BD live and profile 2.0 BR players.
Pro-Prices on players were cheaper. Even prior to the fire sale.
Cons-Less disc space for content
Cons-Higher percentage of potential piracy issues due to less encryption than the competition
Con-Less movie studio support and all support all around (CE companies)
January 7th, 2010
It seems like Sony,Samsung, Panasonic, LG, Toshiba are all supporting 3D Bluray.
Sony Pictures, Warner Bros, Dreamworks, Universal and almost all major movie studios are also supporting it.
January 7th, 2010
Roca.:
Hope they do good for me i don’t really have any use for it. But is good to have the best gaming XP available.
Was the point of even talking about HD-DVD is dead history. You either go Blu or go no where.
January 7th, 2010
First dedicated 3D networks coming to your home TV
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-10425553-17.html?tag=TOCmoreStories.0
January 7th, 2010
Hey Roca….
Were there 3D TV stations (networks, including ESPN-3D) available in the 70′s or 80′s or even 90′s when 3D made brief resurgences?
I’m confused as to all the attention 3D is getting lately with multiple players on the market to support it (even Toshiba). Isn’t it supposed to suck?
January 7th, 2010
Roca
“on the PSN the Full 1080p version of Harry Potter & the Chamber of Secrets about 9.5GB”
There it is folks.
Proof that even the PBots haven’t a f*cking clue when it comes to high def and even they (for all the PR propaganda they suck up) can’t tewll the difference between a so-called ‘full’ HD Blu-ray and an encode down to 9gb.
phranctoast
You can run off into whatever (self) invented narrative you like but for every GWTW you can find there are 100 Spiderman 3s
(and the PS3 demographic ensures its staying that way – even more so if they bail on every stand-alone out there right now).
3D needs a brand new HD TV (which, with one or 2 expensive exceptions, aren’t even in the shops right now).
The ($60 – $100) shuttering glasses are the less impressive of the 2 competing systems btw, the 3D effect RealD polarized system requires a different type of TV not even out yet.
As long as 3D requires glasses, and makes it look like you’re watching miniatures play acting in a terrarium, it’ll be a novelty. Once the glasses are out of the equation, then I’ll be interested.
Even then they have to get past that “moving diorama” effect, which makes everything seem smaller, not bigger, than a traditional 2D viewing.
…..and btw, since when did the PS3 (slim or otherwise) have an HDMI 1.4 connection?
PS3 is HDMI 1.3 (or, IIRC in the slim, 1.3a) it can’t gain the HDMI hardware with a firmware update so it looks like it’ll have to be some sort of half-way house.
Ivan
As someone who often & loudly touts the value of getting Xbox games off of the net why are ytou lying (again) about high def movies?
“either go Blu or go no where”
B*llocks, the net is full of high def encodes & rips, in fact so far every single Blu-ray release has been encoded to varying sizes.
There are also HD TV Caps & encodes.
Get a clue, idiot fanbot.
January 7th, 2010
nope it wasnt supported at all back them, but the “bitter red fanboy” keep saying it will suck even though it’s being supported by all major Electronics manufactures and it’s even getting its own TV spaces/netwokrs.
Avatar: the Game is the first PS3 game to supported it. that just shows how big is the support the tech is getting.
Toshiba supporting it? yeah that was a shocker lol
January 7th, 2010
HH: “can’t tewll the difference between a so-called ‘full’ HD Blu-ray and an encode down to 9gb”
I have the BD disc version and the digital 1080p version and they all look the same. the BD version support different sound format, different languages, subtitles, in-movie features, BD-live and a whole bunch of other things.
the visual quality is still the same idiot
January 7th, 2010
“High Speed HDMI 1.3 cables can support all HDMI 1.4 features except for the HDMI Ethernet Channel”
another idiot who doesnt know what he is talking about. and he talks like if he has actually seen HD-3D in action
and the price is just a matter of time, back when the PS3 came out BD players were $1000 and 40″+ HDTVs (plasma/projection/LCD low contrast ration @ 60hz) cost $3,000-$6,000
January 7th, 2010
@Roca
h**p://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34666354/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/
Good article, even if it is a bit biased against Bluray.
@happy.
With your point with Roca.
While Downloads are more than likely more compressed encodes you also have to keep in mind that when you download a movie your not downloading the 4 languages each taking up a significant portion of the disc.
Which gets us back to that other point. If the 3D version of a movie exceeds current limitations, drop some of the languages and release them as their own release.
January 7th, 2010
woops.. you beat me to it Roca.
January 7th, 2010
brothers, brothers
Don’t forget to remember that all this big push on bigger storage capacity of digital content is to combat the real enemy – PIRACY.
The bigger digital content to existing bandwidth ratio is what’s keeping the piartes at bay.
Didn’t you notice that Sony is getting all the help it needs from its brand competitor’s like Samsung, Panasonic, Sharp, Toshiba etc. just to establish Blu-Ray and everything that comes with it including 3D.
But that doesnt mean they wanna hurt our pockets.
DVD and Blu-Ray’s retail prices are almost just the same when they first came in to the market but the digital contant and value is leaps & bounds for the latter.
The blu-ray association might also have a say on internet bandwidth control , regulation and pricing just to protect the health of all software developers & publishers and all major electronics manufacturers.
Heck one of these days even music will come in blu-ray format for this matter.
And even more Heck is the possibility that this companies will even produce their own Playstations!(I think that’s going abit too far ^_^ he he he)
Don’t be surprised if they continue to dump all this insane digital content to increase file sizes all the time.
And yes don’t be surprised if games prices will go down too.
Don’t be surprised if 50% of blu-rays digital content is dedicated to walls upon walls of security.
And they will do that.
Bottom line Sony must always step up the ante and keep up with Internet technology.
This typing can be tiring…
January 7th, 2010
High Speed HDMI 1.3 cables can support all HDMI 1.4 features except for the HDMI Ethernet Channel
http://www.hdmi.org/download/press_kit/PressBriefing_HDMI1_4_English_100609.pdf
(Page 34 and up)
I’ve been asking HH to link his rants but he keeps refusing to do so. he just write w.e pleases him the most
January 7th, 2010
@gunstar.
Don’t forget. Warner movies will not be released via rental on Netflix for 30 days after the movie comes out. They are said to not be the only studio requesting this from Netflix.
Rentals hurt their bottom line, but his was always known. I rented a lot more movies than i purchased last year.
January 7th, 2010
If these big companies have no choice but to jump on Sony’s BluRay bandwagon, what choice have us?
Nintendo and Microsoft jumped into Sony’s DVD ( even if they don’t mention it to their customers) and they made bazillions of bucks & gamers happy.
So what’s the problem?
Can someone tell this forum any reason why the next Wii or XBOX games won’t be coming in BluRay discs.
January 7th, 2010
because its mostly owned by Sony and it will allow the PS3 to have the upper hand.
but Sony was interested in letting MS and Nintendo have a BD drive on their console for movies only. idk what happen to that
January 7th, 2010
Next Gen will be interesting.
Either Blu ray all the way or Digital Distribution. I’m sure both Sony and MS want DD as it completely cuts out reselling/rentals market and leaves it entirely up to them how they plan to sell and rent their games.
I’m just not sure the infrastructure is ready for it
January 7th, 2010
Roca
“I have the BD disc version and the digital 1080p version and they all look the same”
phranctoast
“While Downloads are more than likely more compressed encodes you also have to keep in mind that when you download a movie your not downloading the 4 languages each taking up a significant portion of the disc”
Too late phranctoast.
Your moron friend answered too soon and blows your point out of the water.
He can’t see a difference between a 9gb encoded download and no matter how dersperatly you try to spin it a 50gb Blu-ray disc is not taken up with 9gbs of movie and the rest in extras and/or different languages.
When you habve friends and allies like that why do you even bother, the moron brigade will always let you down.
IIRC he even regularly claims to have a high-end 50″+ recent HD TV, so you can’t even rely on a cr@p & ancient low res HD TV to help you out.
Unless he’s like Ivan and a saddo liar, which is always possible.
Face it, the game console fanboys know f*ck all about it
(and a quick google is no substitute for some actual knowledge)
January 7th, 2010
its a 46″ you dumb fuck…again link you rants you stupid troll.
and you will stay talking shit about the 3D tech just like you did with Bluray. but I expect you to make the jump maybe 2011 and feel stupid after all the BS you said about it. Deja Vu – just like the Bluray topic all over again.
youa are a funny desperate lil man
January 7th, 2010
If it is DD then I won’t touch it until it is cracked.
I refuse to pay the prices they want for games today.
I just picked up End War for $9.99 brand new.
I don’t have to play the games as they come out, I can wait.
Except GOW 3. I will be getting it the first week. And DC online if it ever comes out.
January 7th, 2010
“and a quick google is no substitute for some actual knowledge”
quick hating rants only show what an idiot you are, but this one funny
“…..and btw, since when did the PS3 (slim or otherwise) have an HDMI 1.4 connection?
PS3 is HDMI 1.3 (or, IIRC in the slim, 1.3a) it can’t gain the HDMI hardware with a firmware update so it looks like it’ll have to be some sort of half-way house”
but you forgot to mention that a High Speed HDMI 1.3 cables can support all HDMI 1.4 features except for the HDMI Ethernet Channel….
this one almost as good as your claim that ODST look better than Uncharted 2.
January 7th, 2010
Roca
Yeah just like Ivan got a 500gb SSD in June 09.
Oh and your claims about what HDMI can or cannot do on PS3 may well turn out to be a tad premature.
But then why would anyone expect the whole truth from you?
You managed to leave out the fact that everyone needs a new HD TV to be able to use it.
January 7th, 2010
HH: “Yeah just like Ivan got a 500gb SSD in June 09.”
yeah your claims are as funny as Ivan’s…
HH: “Oh and your claims about what HDMI can or cannot do on PS3 may well turn out to be a tad premature”
its not my claim, those are the specs and details for HDMI 1.4 and a High Speed HDMI 1.3
where is your link again,
oh thats right, another comment from the frustrated hater who actually claimed ODST look better than Uncharted 2 and that Upscaled DVD look just as good as Bluray movies..
you must be getting a lot of tips at the circus your work for
January 7th, 2010
“You managed to leave out the fact that everyone needs a new HD TV to be able to use it”
and whats your point??? if you want a hybrid car then you need a new car, if you want a touch screen cell phone then you need a new one, if you want 120hz-240hz then you need a new TV, if you wantted a 360 with HDMI then you had to buy/wait for the 360s with HDMI port, if you want to watch movies in HD then you need a BD player, if you haven’t make the jump to the next gen system then you need a new console….etc.
that’s how the tech world is. one of the best PC right now and as soon as you get home with it it will be alread outdated. come down to earth dude and dont stay behind.
January 7th, 2010
I’m not the one who on the one hand PR’s day-in day-out for his beloved and yet who now claims, without a trace of irony or shame, that he cannot see any different between a 9gb download and a retail Blu-ray movie disc.
(and the day you catch me lying about my kit is the day you get to claim there’s any sort of equivelance between what I’ve claimed and what he’s claimed)
January 7th, 2010
so……..whos the xbot resident trolling on a PS3 thread…
it might help to pratice what you preach lol
January 7th, 2010
Roca he can’t help it. There is not much news in the xbox department so he has to do something.
January 7th, 2010
“Roca he can’t help it. There is not much news in the xbox department so he has to do something.”
LMAOOOO! nobody will ever understand HH
January 7th, 2010
Roca
“I have the BD disc version and the digital 1080p version and they all look the sameâ€
Ha ha ha ha ha ha
….oh and look, the inventing liar rolls in to back the f*ckwit up.
Any joy with that quote where you reckon I said HD TV would not take off then liar ncassie?
January 7th, 2010
You have many times. Every time there is and argument about the PS3 including the BR player.
So go play your DVD’s on your SD TV and be happy “Hockum” what ever hockum means.
January 7th, 2010
if you own both version like I do you might actually have a better argument
January 7th, 2010
I’m going back to ignoring you now lol.
January 7th, 2010
HH, you forgot to answer my question!
whos the resident xbot fanboy trolling on a PS3 thread??
LOL @ ncaissie
January 7th, 2010
ncaissie
“You have many times”
Then you shouldn’t have any trouble at all in producing a quote to prove it.
Yeah right.
Liar.
Unless of course you just come clean & quit this BS and admit your a lying moron and stop wasting your time over this.
January 7th, 2010
Run away.
Liar.
January 7th, 2010
Roca.:
I’m all facts not fantasy. So anything i write is true and i can proved also. Just wanna to let you know the true is better then funny. And ignored happyhockum he’s failing Xbot desperate because Xbox 360 has nothing not even built-in WiFi or Blu-ray or a decent menu or cheap HDD or web browsing or any exclusive like UNCHARTED.
January 7th, 2010
Roca
It’s a rare event, treasure the moment.
I was talking to harry originally actually and then commented on your idiotic PR’ing
(both of which were well OT long before I came in, so fail, again, on trying to claim I do what you always do f*ckwit)
January 7th, 2010
Ivan
Such a credible source of comment on anything, not.
Ivan’s the guy who finds XBL too “confusing”.
“Ivan_PSP:
December 8th, 2009
Old Xbox 360 main menu SUCK they need one that’s not bloated and confusing”
http://gamer.blorge.com/2009/12/08/microsoft-working-on-an-even-newer-new-xbox-experience-dashboard/
(Did you note how that was done?
I made the assertion and then I provided the link to prove what I was saying.
Look and learn.
That’s how the grown-ups do it, kiddies)
January 7th, 2010
pratice what you preach
im done with you, enjoy whats left of the day.
January 7th, 2010
Yip, shown up by yourselves as the laughably empty vessels you are.
You got no quote & no link cos you’re just full of fanboy sh!te.
January 7th, 2010
stfu xbot lmfao
January 7th, 2010
did he just ‘laugh his f’n arse off’ when typing that? The boy is easily amused.
January 7th, 2010
The boy finds XBL confusing harry.
I guess it’s wrong to point and laugh at such a um ‘special needs’ child, huh?
January 7th, 2010
HH
what the fucks wrong with people who have special needs? you should be stoned to death you ignorant piece of shit!!! when HH isnt trolling about blu ray or ps3 he likes to abuse children in malaysia, your a sick fuck, and you know nothing, i suppose sony should jump down on their knees and beg you to come up with a media format? your such an idiot. your the laughing stock at blorge LOL
January 8th, 2010
‘I guess it’s wrong to point and laugh at such a um ’special needs’ child, huh’
@ HH: Stupid comment there dick head. Wind your neck in.
January 8th, 2010
Oh my, the faux outrage.
Yeah, I’ll take note the day you lot either stop hurling terms like “retard” or using something like child abuse as abuse
or
call out others for doing so.
Hypocrites.
January 8th, 2010
stop tryin to back track you distgusting paedophile!
January 8th, 2010
leaving alone Liquid, you have to understand where he is coming from….just ignore him
January 8th, 2010
There you go, just as I said, nothing but disgusting pathetic hypocrites.
January 8th, 2010
says the paedophile
January 8th, 2010
HH are you still upset i wouldnt sleep with you that night in venice?
January 8th, 2010
haha
January 8th, 2010
HH how old are you?
January 8th, 2010
I would say about 2 or 3 years old between. But that 3 might be too advanced.
liquid:
LoL you owned him LoL.
Roca.:
I bet happyhockum is preparing what he’s going to be preaching tonight LoL.
oldschool1987:
aLL of happyhockum jokes/comments are are stupid.