PS3 to gain on Wii, Xbox 360 in 2010?

January 7, 2010

PS3 to gain on Wii, Xbox 360 in 2010?I’m sure I’ve heard the phrase, “the year of the PS3″ somewhere before, multiple times. But that is what analysts are now claiming for 2010, with the PS3 expected to gain on the Xbox 360 and Wii in terms of hardware sales. I’ll believe it when I see it.

The Wii started to slip in 2009, but still managed to outsell everything but its Nintendo brethren the DS. The PS3 and Xbox 360 generally battled it out in close formation throughout the year, with the ultimate sales figures depending on where you live in the world.

However, 2010 offers a whole new chapter in the console war, with all three manufacturers eager to increase sales and profit. According to Industry Gamers, Lazard Capital Markets analyst Colin Sebastian thinks this will be a good year for Sony and the PS3, a mediocre one for Microsoft and the Xbox 360, and a bad one for Nintendo and the Wii.

For the year, we are currently modeling a 10 percent increase in PS3 unit sales, Xbox 360 unit sales down 5 percent, and a 20 percent decline in Nintendo Wii unit sales.

Interestingly, Sebastian thinks all of this will result in one brilliant trend for the year: hardware price cuts. So if you haven’t yet acquired all three home consoles, 2010 could be your chance to do so.



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255 Responses to “PS3 to gain on Wii, Xbox 360 in 2010?”

  1. Roca.:

    great, I think Phranc predicted something like this also

  2. ViRuS:

    Maybe it will, maybe it won’t.

    I’ll have a better undertanding towards the end of the year. :)

  3. Ivan_PSP:

    Is not hard to believe that the PS3 is going to do awesome in 2010. Just loot at all the exclsuives plus Sony’s going to make more money and Xbox 360 basically has nothing and Wii is most definitely ready for death. 2007-2010 PS3 has been making hits ever since, if you have a PS3 you are a happy gamer. Finally a analyst that doesn’t need to be fired.

    Plus…
    Free Blu-ray
    Free WiFi
    Free Online Play
    Free USB Charger
    Laptop compatible HDD
    Low price just $300 PS3 is like free.

  4. Saber_HAHAha:

    As much as people like to whine, 2009 was a PS3 year in terms of content. Great exclusive line-up, a price cut, and a Slim model. I’m not sure about sales. But as a gamer who does NOT own stocks in gaming, I would rather see more “gaming” than a silly sale number (which I won’t toss aside, everybody wants to see their favorite console sell well).

    Isn’t Sony catching up in sales, anyways? Correct me if I’m wrong, but I heard that there was a gap in sales between the PS3 and 360, and that gap is now significantly smaller.

    Early-to-mid 2010 looks Sony so far. I don’t know about the holiday season, though. I’m not sure when Natal is expected to be out, but that can easily put the Xbox back on top.

  5. oldschool1987:

    Saber has the right idea and outlook on things.

  6. Roca.:

    Saber: “Isn’t Sony catching up in sales, anyways? Correct me if I’m wrong, but I heard that there was a gap in sales between the PS3 and 360, and that gap is now significantly smaller.”

    when the PS3 came out the 360 had a 10 Million units lead, the the PS3 managed to cut the lead to 7M.

    last time I checked the lead was cut to 5 million and thats not even counting Dec’s sales number.

  7. me_:

    The Wii sold 3m units in the US last December and now it’s selling twice as many units as the PS3 on a weekly basis in Japan (after the FFXIII blip).

    2010 will be the same as 2009.

  8. twilight:

    I don’t care how many systems the Wii system sells. It is still not a true gaming system.

  9. CarlB:

    “I’m sure I’ve heard the phrase, ‘the year of the PS3′ somewhere before”…

    Ha ha… Nice one Dave ;)

    “last time I checked the lead was cut to 5 million”

    Three years to cut the lead in half… so at that pace averaged the PS3 would catch up… by 2013… after the next gen has already started… and just before CAD and Kevin pick one up for $99.

    I do have a feeling God of War III is going to be a huge draw this year for PS3… even more than GT5, though the word is yet to come out on Reach or Natal’s effects.

  10. CarlB:

    Looks like 360 is gaining steam on XBL though:

    “Nearly 10 million people have logged into Xbox Live’s nongaming applications” including ‘Facebook, Twitter, Netflix, Last.fm, Sky, Canal and Zune.’ We’ll do the math for you: that’s 50% of the Xbox Live audience, and those are all paying Gold users.”

    http://www.joystiq.com/2010/01/06/xbox-by-the-numbers-20m-xbox-live-users-10m-nongaming-39m-xbo/

    And the Natal “window” at least is official for Holiday 2010:

    http://www.joystiq.com/2010/01/06/microsoft-says-project-natal-coming-holiday-season-2010/

    And Game Room looks about as much fun as Home is now:

    http://www.joystiq.com/2010/01/06/xbox-game-room-bringing-arcades-back-to-xbox-360-and-games-for-w/

  11. CarlB:

    Looks like 360 is gaining steam on XBL though:

    “Nearly 10 million people have logged into Xbox Live’s nongaming applications” including ‘Facebook, Twitter, Netflix, Last.fm, Sky, Canal and Zune.’ We’ll do the math for you: that’s 50% of the Xbox Live audience, and those are all paying Gold users.”

    http://www.joystiq.com/2010/01/06/xbox-by-the-numbers-20m-xbox-live-users-10m-nongaming-39m-xbo/

    The Natal “window” at least is official for Holiday 2010:

    joystiq.com/2010/01/06/microsoft-says-project-natal-coming-holiday-season-2010/

    And Game Room (Spring) looks only slightly more “fun” than Home is now:

    joystiq.com/2010/01/06/xbox-game-room-bringing-arcades-back-to-xbox-360-and-games-for-w/

  12. Rhino:

    Blah blah PS3′s year…blah blah blah.

    Yeah big fucking deal, Just keep pumping out some decent games, that’s all I care about.

  13. oldschool1987:

    ‘so at that pace averaged the PS3 would catch up… by 2013′

    @ Carl: You don’t seem to take into account recent events:

    -Much more better exclusives
    -Cheaper console

    Now I’m not saying PS3 will catch up with Xbox because I don’t think it will, it’s had too much of a head start and some people are just too stubborn to admit the PS3 has great games.

    I just got both because they both have amazing games!

    Not getting Wii though unless Zelda comes out lol. I never got Twilight Princess for Wii, my Mrs got it mme for the Gamecube… any chance of this happening again? lol

  14. CarlB:

    “Now I’m not saying PS3 will catch up with Xbox because I don’t think it will”

    I’m saying it will… eventually… guess we’ll have to see.

    Bayonetta is brilliant btw, definitely more fun than Darksiders so far, only in each for the first hour though… and I still have to finish up The Zombie Island of Dr. Ned… lot of fun.

  15. Ivan_PSP:

    I hate Xbox 360 Microsoft better make good games or else face a horrible destiny.

    2007 PS3 exclusives
    Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection
    MotorStorm
    Ninja Gaiden Sigma
    Warhawk
    Dirt
    UNCHARTED: Drake’s Fortune
    Heavenly Sword
    Folklore
    Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction
    Time Crisis 4
    LAIR
    Unreal Tournament 3 timed exclusive with mods

    2007 Xbox 360 exclusives
    Crackdown
    Dance Dance Revolution Universe
    Bullet Witch
    BioShock
    Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2 later on PS3
    Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars
    Forza Motorsport 2
    Blue Dragon
    Stranglehold also on PS3 with the film in the disc
    Eternal Sonata also on PS3
    Halo 3
    Project Gotham Racing 4
    Beautiful Katamari
    Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation
    Naruto: Rise of a Ninja
    Mass Effect

    2008 PS3 exclusives
    Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice
    The History Channel: Battle for the Pacific
    Lost Planet: Extreme Condition
    Yakuza: Kenzan!
    Valkyria Chronicles
    Monster Madness: Grave Danger
    Haze
    BioShock better edition
    Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
    Initial D Extreme Stage
    Tears to Tiara: Kakan no Daichi
    Siren: Blood Curse
    Ratchet & Clank Future: Quest for Booty
    Afrika
    Eternal Sonata
    Aquanaut’s Holiday: Hidden Memories
    Cross Edge
    SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs Confrontation
    LittleBigPlanet
    MotorStorm: Pacific Rift
    Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm
    Resistance 2
    Alone in the Dark: Inferno
    White Knight Chronicles

    2008 Xbox 360 exclusives
    Dark Messiah of Might and Magic
    Universe at War: Earth Assault
    The Idolmaster: Live For You!
    Supreme Commander
    Ninja Gaiden II also on PS3
    Command & Conquer 3: Kane’s Wrath
    Left 4 Dead
    Don King Presents: Prizefighter
    Happy Tree Friends: False Alarm
    Unreal Tournament 3
    Tales of Vesperia the best version is on PS3
    Too Human
    Gears of War 2
    Infinite Undiscovery
    Viva Piñata: Trouble in Paradise
    Dance Dance Revolution Universe 3
    Fable II
    Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts
    Naruto: The Broken Bond
    The Last Remnant

    2009 PS3 exclusives
    Savage Moon
    Flower
    Noby Noby Boy
    Killzone 2
    inFMAOUS
    Fat Princess
    Katamari Forever
    Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2
    Demon’s Souls
    Afrika
    Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
    Trine
    Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack in Time
    God of War Collection

    Xbox 360 2009 exclusives
    Race Pro
    Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned Awesome DLC
    Star Ocean: The Last Hope also for PS3
    Halo Wars
    Halo 3: ODST
    MagnaCarta II
    Forza Motorsport 3

    2010 PS3 exclusives
    MAG
    White Knight Chronicles
    Heavy Rain
    God of War III
    Gran Turismo 5
    ModNation Racers
    The Last Guardian
    Free Realms
    The Agency
    AGENT
    Final Fantasy XIV
    EyePet
    DC Universe

    2010 Xbox 360 exclusives
    Tropico 3
    Mass Effect 2
    Tom Clancy’s Splinter Cell: Conviction
    Metro 2033
    Alan Awake
    Crackdown 2
    Dawn of Fantasy
    Dead or Alive: Code Chronos
    Fable III
    Halo: Reach
    Hydrophobia

  16. harry sachz:

    hahaha EyePet

  17. CarlB:

    no no Afrika

  18. me_:

    Hey Harry EyePet is a must have exclusive!

    I’ve been told it’s not even possible on the 360.

  19. Andrew_DS:

    Is everybody think here or what? For the ps3 to actually catch up with the Wii it has to outsell it on a regular basis. Last time I looked the Wii was still outselling it by quite a margin.

    If the ps3 sold 50k and the Wii sold 200k one month and then the next month the ps3 sold 100k, its not catching the Wii. The gap is still getting bigger.

    2010 = 2009, just like 2009 = 2008 etc…

    If the Wii does start slowing down I would assume its because its reaching saturation point. And the 360 is nearing its 5 year life cycle so I expect to see it decline unless Natal grabs the public for next Xmas. ps3!?! I think it will have the odd sales spike when ever a MUST HAVE EXCLUSIVE comes out but its just not having the same success as the ps2.

  20. Andrew_DS:

    HA ha, I am thick for saying think! DOH!

  21. Ivan_PSP:

    Xbox 360 is full of weak ass exclusives.

  22. Roca.:

    2008, 2009 and it seems like 2010 as well. 3 years in a row

  23. harry sachz:

    i love it how he throws Free Realms and EyePet into his list to flesh it out a little.

    If you’re going to put Modnations Racer in the list for PS3, why aren’t you putting Joyride into the 360 list?

  24. Ghost:

    It’s all about the SOULS wimps…hehehehhe

  25. phranctoast:

    After reading Ivans wall of text, I’m simply reminded how great this gen was for both consoles.

    I forgot how many great games came out in 2007 for the PS3 and the 360, considering the “PS3 has no games” BS I still hear to this day.

  26. Ghost:

    Silly Ivan dicks are for chicks…

  27. Ivan_PSP:

    harry sachz:
    Damn i forgot one shit i also forgot the last GTA DLC damn it. I put every exclusives i remember by heart. EyePet i need to get it for the trophy and this girl that want to play it. Afrika i will not care for it looks really nice but not me. Free Realms fucking rulez i play it on my PC is free but i wanna for PS3 fast. ModNation Racers looks ten times better then LBP hopefully someone will lend it to me if i can’t buy it which i know i won’t buy it LoL. I was not trying to put the Xbox 360 down i just felt bored so i made this list to see how much i can remember which is almost everything.

    phranctoast:
    I guess you right but most of the good games for PS3 came out really late with a few exceptions. Xbox 360 had its year a long time ago 2007 i think it was. Microsoft needs to be like Sony they got money they should use it better. Then to waste on mealiness DLC.
    And yeah PS3 has the best game is a FACT.

    If the PS3 was not a Japanese console thinks might had been different i think. American some are biased towards Microsoft because is a USA monopolize company. Wii got lucky because girls don’t give a shit about loyalty and little kids don’t know what loyalty is and all people don’t know gaming so they buy the crappy because they think it looks cool but in reality it looks worst then terrible or horrifying.

    Sony is surviving because of their powerful hardware and their strong massive exclusives plus new IP real exclusives. Also Sony has more gaming studios then both rivaled combine. In the end the PS3 will win no doubt. Wii is about to slip for good because its time has come for a new improved Wii or new console. The PS3 has power to last over 15 years.

    Sony is destine to win always it shows. Also they are the only company that has 3 console on the market plus the only one that can last 10 years. Also Sony always introduces new disc technology from CD to DVD from DVD to Blu-ray Disc.

    I can already imagine 2011 another awesome year with.
    inFAMOUS 2
    UNCHARTED 3 – maybe
    Killzone 3
    Resistance 3
    AGENT
    The New Lightbox Interactive game
    The New Eat Sleep Play game
    Final Fantasy Versus XIII
    and many more.

    Sony is always a step ahead in business.

  28. ncaissie:

    “Three years to cut the lead in half” LOL you’re a fu@k retard. That is to cut the one year lead in half which means PS3 is doing better then the 360 over all. Keep your spin if it helps you sleep better idiot.

    I’m pleased with the games I have on the PS3 and don’t miss anything on the 360 except Halo but I can live without it. I tried it on my brothers 360 before it died the second time.
    Now it is sitting in my bedroom as a door stop LOL.

  29. Roca.:

    “don’t miss anything on the 360 except Halo but I can live without it. I tried it on my brothers 360 before it died the second time.
    Now it is sitting in my bedroom as a door stop LOL.”

    LMAOOOOOOOOO

  30. Happyhockum:

    Jebus H Dave, losing the will to live, huh?

  31. ncaissie:

    “LMAOOOOOOOOO” LOL it’s true.
    He can’t find the power brick and I wont sink one cent in it to attempt a repair.

  32. RobertCarr316:

    Why us there so much hate for afrika I looked at it and I’m quite interested in checking the fame out as for eyepet it’s not great played it in my GF’s brothers ps3 I found it unresponsive and boring but he was having the time of his life playing it

  33. RobertCarr316:

    *Why is

  34. Roca.:

    me_: “The Wii sold 3m units in the US last December”

    “Sony PlayStation 3 sold 3.8 million units worldwide in the month of December. 1.7 million units were sold in the US alone, which would be up over a million from last year at the same time. The PS3 sold close to 500K in Japan, meaning that close to 1.6 million consoles were also sold in Europe as well”

  35. phranctoast:

    @Roca.

    The 3.8 million includes Black Friday as well (They called it Holiday 2009). The numbers quoted were for Nov 26th to Dec 25th I believe.

  36. Roca.:

    you are right Phranc,

    sales were From November 23 to December 27 for Japan and Asia, from November 24 to December 28 for North America, and from November 21 to December 25 for Europe and PAL territories.

  37. Roca.:

    Capcom and Sega will not support the hardcore audience on the Wii anymore….Im guessing we will see Monster Hunter back on the PS3 ;)

  38. CarlB:

    Roca, I see you still “don’t care about sales”… lol.

    NC,

    “That is to cut the one year lead in half which means PS3 is doing better then the 360 over all. Keep your spin if it helps you sleep better idiot.”

    Yes, I was responding to roca who had already mentioned it earlier several times, as I have, but keep repeating it over and over again like a mantra if it helps you sleep better.

  39. Roca.:

    CarlB and his PS3 hate has arrived,

    this only a quote dude, don’t be stupid like Kev or HH. If I care about sales I would be praising games and console based its sales. I was just replying to a “sales” comment made by “me_”

    CarlB: “Yes, I was responding to roca who had already mentioned it earlier several times”

    the lawyer and his lame excuses, my comment was in response to Saber’s question:
    “Isn’t Sony catching up in sales, anyways? Correct me if I’m wrong, but I heard that there was a gap in sales between the PS3 and 360, and that gap is now significantly smaller”

    you clearly skipped through that one too…its funny how you twist other ppl’s comments to make the 360 look good. come out of that fanboy closet already

  40. gunstar:

    Intentional double post:
    If these big companies have no choice but to jump on Sony’s BluRay bandwagon, what choice have us?

    Nintendo and Microsoft jumped into Sony’s DVD ( even if they don’t mention it to their customers) and they made bazillions of bucks & gamers happy.

    So what’s the problem?

    Can someone tell this forum any reason why the next Wii or XBOX games won’t be coming in BluRay discs.

  41. gunstar:

    I want a spanking new
    250GB Xbox360 Elite Slim with Natal built in by January 2011 where I can do that Minority Report waving thing and you can turn it on with a clap or finger snap.

  42. CarlB:

    Roca, I don’t hate PS3, it’s just too funny some of the things Ivan says about it that I can’t help but respond.

    Wait a sec, how did I “skip” his comment or “twist” anything? I just said I was responding to yours, although I did read his as well, and I acknowledged that I have talked many times with you and others in the past about 360′s year head start… apparently you do not remember?

    The end result is the same, 360 earned a lot of PS3′s marketshare by launching a year ahead of it. PS3 lost even more initial customers by launching a much higher price. Since then it has gained back customers like myself with more exclusives being released, a lower price, a redesign, trophies standard, and an improved PSN experience. 360 is still ahead in total sales (year head start), and if PS3 keeps it’s pace averaged it may match that lead shortly after the next gen starts in 2013.

    There’s no hate there. Lose the fanboy shades already.

  43. phranctoast:

    I’m still waiting on carlb to hock a lugie into the back of his ps3 and then tell us how his mysteriously stopped working. ;)

  44. ncaissie:

    “and you can turn it on with a clap or finger snap.”

    As apposed to turning it on with a simple push of a button on the controller? I think it is less effort to push the button then to wave your arms like a wiitard.

    Good luck with that.

  45. Roca.:

    “I’m still waiting on carlb to hock a lugie into the back of his ps3 and then tell us how his mysteriously stopped working”

    wait for it Phranc.. I dont even pay attention to him anymore. he argued that netflix streaming on 360 look just as good as BD movies and then he claimed Netflix streaming on 360 look better than on PS3 when comparasion tell otherwise

    he reply to every single post from Ivan but dont bother with Kev just because Kev is on his “side”

    I see CarlB as a 360 version of Ivan, a fanboy who happens to own both console but clearly have a console of choice and will take time to defend it in a blorge forum

    @ CarlB

    my comment wasnt to anti-360, it was just a simple response to Saber’s question unlike you troll comments countering my response. btw, you 2nd paragraph was superfluous to the subject and

  46. phranctoast:

    Or maybe he can take a piss on it and claim it got the “yellow” light of death. I kill me :D

  47. ncaissie:

    “Or maybe he can take a piss on it and claim it got the “yellow” light of death. I kill me”

    LOL

  48. CarlB:

    Ha ha. Too funny. But I really am looking forward to both consoles lineups this year, not just one. Sorry.

  49. phranctoast:

    I’ll be here all night. Just remember to pick
    up my cd on the way out.

  50. Roca.:

    ha ha, his usual “balance” comment to avoid the heat. lol

  51. CarlB:

    C’mon man, I wan’t it on blu-ray, what’s up with this cd trash? ;)

  52. ncaissie:

    CD as to mot leave out the xbots.

  53. Ivan_PSP:

    Old new reminded here we go.

    Compact Disc
    A CD-R (Compact Disc-Sony and Recordable) is a variation of the Compact Disc invented by Philips and Sony.

    DVD
    Was also part of Sony Philips and Panasonic plus more companies.

    Now Blu-ray Disc
    Sony is on fire not along but always leading.

    Xbox 360 or should i said Microsoft better give some big thanks to some people.

  54. CarlB:

    Don’t forget MD and UMD! “Sony is on Fire”!

  55. Roca.:

    how that HD-DVD add on CarlB…”MS is on Fire”
    (supporting a dead format lol)

  56. ncaissie:

    On a side note:
    “Samsung Electronics has predicted strong earnings for the last quarter, amid rising sales of flat screen TVs.
    The group expects to report operating profits of between 3.5 trillion won ($3.1bn; £1.9bn) and 3.9 trillion won for the fourth quarter of 2009.”

    This really looks like HD Tv’s are not taking off like the resident Xbots say time and time again.
    LMFAO

  57. Roca.:

    nacissie, dont listen to HH

  58. CarlB:

    “MS is on Fire”

    you said it not me… lol.

    NC,

    Who said HDTV’s would “not take off” “time and time again”?

  59. ncaissie:

    HH mostly, as well as a few others. Not you but I like how you speak up when I say xbot. LOL

  60. Roca.:

    “Not you but I like how you speak up when I say xbot. LOL”

    lmaoo

  61. phranctoast:

    How is umd a failed format? Is the propietary ds anD gamecube discs a failed format as well?

    When something is in only one device i hardly think it registers in any format war or anything worth mentioning.

  62. Roca.:

    Phranc

    dont even bother, it came from CarlB. you know he will anything to put the 360 and MS on top

  63. CarlB:

    HH actually said that HDTV’s would not be successful? I find that hard to believe… but maybe you could provide a quote?

    Phranc, I never said it was a “failed format”, though perhaps it did not take off as well as Sony thought it might, it certainly isn’t as successful as DVD or Blu-ray. The load times can suck on it, and I certainly prefer downloaded games compared to UMD games in that aspect. I didn’t mention Nintendo, but they seem to be having slightly more success with the DS than Sony is with the PSP.

  64. Happyhockum:

    CarlB

    “Who said HDTV’s would “not take off” “time and time again”?

    ncaissie:

    “HH mostly, as well as a few others”

    You lying little tu*d.

    Go on then, show one instance where I ever said HD TV would not take off.

    Pretty sad when you reduce yourself to just making it up as you go along.

  65. ncaissie:

    HH said no one is buying HD TV’s right now so HDMI and BR is not needed. I think those sales numbers of one company proves him wrong. I’m not going through old blogs to prove anything. We all know how it has been with the BR is not needed arguments.

  66. ncaissie:

    “it certainly isn’t as successful as DVD or Blu-ray”

    It was never meant to compete so why say something like that other than to argue for the sake of arguing?

  67. Roca.:

    “I didn’t mention Nintendo, but they seem to be having slightly more success with the DS than Sony is with the PSP”

    Nintendo has always been the leader in the portable derpartment…all other portable gaming devices have been a failure. the fact that the PSP has manage to stay alive and compete in the portable gaming department is a feat that no other company have achieve other than nintendo.

    UMD is a propietary format btw

  68. Happyhockum:

    ncassie

    Instead of pretending to recall your little fantasy just stick with providing the quote, you tedious lying moron.

    Love the idea of PS3 catching up with XBox, very funny.

    At CES today Balmer revealed 39 million Xbox sold – and the “‘Xbox Game Room’ to include over 1000 classic arcade games” looks very nice too.

  69. ncaissie:

    Yeah, yeah we all remember your BS spews about HD.
    You, Kev, Harry and CAD. Back peddle all you want dude.

  70. CarlB:

    “HH said no one is buying HD TV’s right now”

    When did he ever say that? Maybe years ago when it was actually true?

    “It was never meant to compete”

    I thought the PSP was meant to compete with DS… and Sony thought that movie UMD’s would be more successful than they are now? Like I said, I didn’t call it a “failure”, but it doesn’t seem to have taken off like they hoped it would, and I doubt the format will last past this gen.

  71. Ivan_PSP:

    I did not add UMD since is only for PSP. Sony made the right decision cartridges would suck and look ugly and extremely dated. Sony is more then on fire they are on a roll destroying competitors games.

    Don’t listen to happyhockum he is a pure moron i just laugh my ass off at his fail attempts at Sony. I rather response to CarlB since he at least plays PS3 also i think harry sachz move to both consoles it was a matter of timing.

    Sony=VISIONARY.

  72. Ivan_PSP:

    UMD is doing awesome for PSP games Sony is going to keep using that a more advanced version.

  73. Happyhockum:

    Cue howling wind of nothing and the tumble-weed blowing.

    ncassie is either a liar full of sh!te and/or has alzheimers and is recued to inventing stupid little tales.

    No wonder there was, straight-away, a stupid
    “I’m not going through old blogs to prove anything” comment.

    That’s cos there isn’t any “proof” to be had
    (in stark contrast to when some of us shoot-down the PBot’s lying BS).

    Not a single shred of truth in the idiot’s invented lies.

  74. Happyhockum:

    ncaissie:

    “Yeah, yeah we all remember your BS spews about HD”

    Well go for it then.

    I don’t have any trouble tracking down the stuff I recall, whats up with your memory?

    Or will you just admit it, cut your stupid cr@p and own up to lying?

  75. Roca.:

    HH was ranting that BD was a niche because since HDTVS were not taking off fast enough. and that it was going to hold BD back.

    he probably said on his other login [kev] though ;)

  76. ncaissie:

    Exactly Roca, I’m not the only one that remembers all the crap and it was not Years ago! LOL
    I’ve only had a PS3 for 9-10 months now.

  77. Happyhockum:

    Roca

    Stop your wriggling whining pathetic support act & go help your pal get a relevant quote or else just stfu moron.

    Back the claim up or just do us all a favour and admit it’s a particularly stupid lie
    (which we all know it is anyways).

  78. Ivan_PSP:

    Roca.:
    LoL he’s an idiot that’s why he believes such railroaded lies from himself. Blu-ray is the new standard so of course it was going to do great it just need a little time. He’s just crying because Xbox only does DVD9 LMFAO. Microsoft should at least had use HD-DVD for games those morons don’t even think.

  79. Happyhockum:

    I keep encouraging you, go ahead, the floor is yours…..prove it with a quote if it’s so memorable then ncassie.

    Prove it if I’ve said that so often and so recently that you recall it so clearly.

    You know you can’t cos you’re full of lying sh!te and everyone can see it right here right now.

    Liar.

  80. Happyhockum:

    Ivan

    The only bigger idiot here is you.

    Caught cold lying to people on the net about your kit to ….er….not sure what exactly.

    You claimed to have bought a Sony Vaio bought in June 09 with a 500gb SSD.

    Cretinous fantasist.

  81. Happyhockum:

    Shall I provide the quotes Ivan?

    You see, there’s the difference.

    Whe I assert something you’ve said I can easily get a link and the exact quote.

    You lot have sweet f*ck all except your imaginations and what you want to believe I’ve said.

    You have nothing.

    You’re just saddos full of spite, hot air and sh!te.

    Must be rubbish to be you guys.

  82. harry sachz:

    “You, Kev, Harry and CAD. Back peddle all you want dude.”

    What did I say to be included in your little hate list? Go fuck yourself norm, you idiot.

  83. harry sachz:

    That was coming from a guy who is hoping some people lose their jobs and come development houses go bankrupt. Nice…

  84. harry sachz:

    come = some

  85. Happyhockum:

    Just ask for the quote harry, truth is he hasn’t got one.
    Cos he’s full of sh!te.

    Even after all this time he’s still got f*ck all.

    Like I said, full of sh!te.

  86. harry sachz:

    HH,

    Should I even bother? I think we both know we’re not going to get anything substantial back from him.

    I’d love to know how I got on his hate list.

  87. Happyhockum:

    Yes, you’re right harry.

    Of course it shouldn’t be necessary but you know how these guys get, they run off at the mouth and suddenly they’ve made a complete w@nker of themselves and once the buttons pushed it’s there.

    For all to see and quote and link back to.

  88. Ivan_PSP:

    Brooklyn’s Finest

  89. harry sachz:

    @ CAD,

    Had fun last night on Left 4 Dead 2. Shame we had that idiot who kept running in front of the rest of us and then start whinging about being shot! haha…. i have to say, I did aim for him on the odd occasion.

  90. CarlB:

    “I’d love to know how I got on his hate list.”

    Simple, you do not love the PS3 unconditionally, you do not worship it exclusively, and you have actually made valid criticisms about it… this is unacceptable and so you have been placed on the list.

  91. harry sachz:

    @ CharlieB,

    I think you’re onto something there!

    It’s a shame that there are people like that, on both sides. Both machines are good, one has advantages over the other in some departments and vice versa. For someone to say ‘xxx is a POS’ smacks of ignorance.

    There’s a lot that I like about the PS3. I like the idea of trophy levels over just achievements. I like the fact that it has a blu ray player. I can probably go on. But it also has it’s drawbacks, as does any machine.

  92. Ivan_PSP:

    2010 is going to be fucking awesome. If you love movies this year is your year get ready for awesome Blu-ray films. If you love games this is one of your years PLAYSTATION 3 is jam packed with awesome hits. 2010 is gonna be fun i can tell. Also if you don’t own a PS3 you can still have fun just wait to get Alan Awake, i know i would love it as much as Heavy Rain. Only if Microsoft could bring a sequel to MechAssault for Xbox 360.

    Yeah TROPHY is way better than Game Score is deeper. Looks like Sony is gonna have one their best year all this is good news for them.

  93. Liquid:

    i cant wait for what is announced at e3 this year

    carlB and harry are you guys on PSN?

    HH shut the fuck up

  94. harry sachz:

    @ Ivan,

    Agreed, this year is going to be good, hence why I have both machines, I don’t want to miss out on anything.

    Heavy Rain has me worried. IGN did a hypebusters column on it and they weren’t glowing in it’s praise. I think I am going to have to wait and see what happens with that one.

    Liquid, yes I am. But I am not adding Ivan. haha

  95. Happyhockum:

    harry, I’ll go & load up LFD2.

    I’ll have to get a little practice in 1st before taking you on.

    Liquid

    You have problems working out what ‘ignore’ means do you?
    You’re the sort of ludicrous f*ckwit who threatens people on the net.
    Go play with your PBot pals.
    You saddo ar$ehole.

  96. Liquid:

    skanger_raver add me if you want

  97. Liquid:

    HH

    dont hate me coz you aint me. . .

  98. Liquid:

    skanger_raver is my psn ID harry

  99. harry sachz:

    @ HH,

    No need to practice, I am awful at it. I was too busy trying to decapitate zombies with an axe to get an achievement and wound up getting killed. Also, CAD pushing me off a ledge didn’t help!

  100. harry sachz:

    Ok, liquid, next time I am on i’ll look for you.

  101. Liquid:

    sound harry. u hav any online games?

  102. harry sachz:

    only MGS4 at the moment, but I haven’t even tried the online bit out on that yet, I am concentrating on inFAMOUS. I was up till 1:30am this morning playing it. I want to finish it being good and then being evil too.

  103. Liquid:

    i still need to finish infamous on good, r u getting MAG? its really good shooter and resistance 2 8player co op is really fun

  104. oldschool1987:

    @ Harry: I think Heavy Rain will not be for most people, it won’t be action packed if it’s anything like Farenheit, which I actually loved lol.

    Play the demo of HR 1st, I’m sure they’ll release one.

  105. harry sachz:

    I am thinking about picking up resistance 2, it’s a ‘Platinum’ game over here, so I can probably get it for around $40. I don’t think I am getting MAG, it hasn’t piqued my interest at all.

    @ oldie,

    I do like the odd adventure game. As long as it’s not a movie where you press a button at the right time to continue the story etc then I may well like it.

  106. CarlB:

    “carlB and harry are you guys on PSN?”

    Sure… MSgtBUSMC

    @Harry, I totally agree, the POS remarks may have held some weight with 360 years ago, but not today… I have problems with both (mainly getting kicked off PSN even in just the main screen on PS3, and 360′s hard drive prices/ots incompatibility), but also love each one’s games. Infamous is still my favorite btw… great game… are you able to get God of War Collection? Also, if you like the zombie action in L4D2 you might love it in Borderlands DLC, that game hits the mark on so many levels.

    I read the column you were talking about on Heavy Rain and am not too worried and think it will be at least above average… what I like about these types of games is they try something different (at least from the mainstream) and experiment with different ideas, if not totally new ones. The end result may or may not be phenomenal, but at least it’s something bold and somewhat different, right?

    Ivan, you don’t have to wait for Alan Wake, Mass Effect 2 is scheduled to be out before the end of the month.

  107. phranctoast:

    “Simple, you do not love the PS3 unconditionally, you do not worship it exclusively, and you have actually made valid criticisms about it… this is unacceptable and so you have been placed on the list.”

    Not really Carlb.
    Harry used to put down blu ray. Maybe about a year ago.

    I looked for anyone ripping into HDTV penetration in their criticism against blu ray. I do recall hearing it as well though. Came up short. I think it was either happy or CAD. Harry had his blu ray pot shots in the past but I don’t think it was him.

    Here’s a link. CAD and happy (as usual) The good thing about this link is it also contains a UMD argument.

    http://gamer.blorge.com/2008/10/12/xbox-360-head-greenberg-actually-wrong-blu-ray-doing-just-fine/

  108. phranctoast:

    http://gamer.blorge.com/2008/12/11/analysis-npd-numbers-reveal-ps3-xbox-360-and-wii-selling-well/

    This one is good.

    happy said.
    “High def is an enthusiasts play-thing and will most likely stay that way – allowing time for the necessary infrastructure to catch up with the requirements for downloads and streaming (and it’s worth noting that downloads do not require the same higher speeds as streaming…..although even here buffering is a major factor, it’s not all about simple speeds.

    Survey after survey show a huge chunk of HD TV owners happily supplying their new HD TV with SD programs.
    The HD TV upscales these and the owners are happy.
    Or they buy an HD TV service (usually with a nice big DVR).

    It’s perfectly plain that many of these same people will be only to happy to have ‘HD lite’ services (and you can see this already happening with the various 720p services)

    Most people simply have no real need for Blu-ray, not at the price it comes at (and although a handful of cheaper players can now be had most still go for $200+) and not at the prices movies come for……and again it’s worth saying that new release DVD prices are not the problem for BD, it’s DVD’s 1 – 3mth prices).”

    The last post also has Carlb saying he’ll get a PS3 when it’s $150 and gow3 is out. :D

  109. Liquid:

    LMAO @ happyhockum

  110. Roca.:

    in 2011-2012 he will have a 3D HDTV and a 3D bluray player and we all going to look back at all the shit talked about it in late 2009 and early 2010.

  111. Roca.:

    Happyhockum:
    October 27th, 2009

    phranctoast

    “I’m surprised the 360 doesn’t have a blu ray add on by now”

    You kidding, surely?
    The Blu-ray gang have been doing their best to push for that one since before HD DVD disappeared.
    It’s not going to happen.

    Why would Microsoft pay the BDA a dime in royalties when it has every incentive not to – not to mention alternatives suited to the mass-market.

    This is not about “hate”.
    This is about recognising the single-minded greed which drove the industry off of a cliff pursuing this idiotic format which was always about them maximising their interests and absolutely not the consumers.
    Just because they chose wrong is no reason for the consumer to embrace a format fundamentally designed to hike prices & remove freedoms we already had (or were about to have – think managed copy and BD+)
    They made their bed.

    why Microsoft (or anyone for that matter) should help in establishing a niche video format.

    UMD?
    Well it was/is another stupid Sony proprietary format that bombed badly and was picked up by no-one else.

    http://gamer.blorge.com/2009/10/27/is-netflix-on-ps3-using-disc-due-to-xbox-360-exclusivity-contract/

  112. Happyhockum:

    phranctoast

    Oh dear, is that really the best you could find?

    Not once in that quote
    (and boy you guys have spent an age looking)
    do I ever say HD TV will not catch on.

    Similarly Roca has found something to post up that’s completely irrelevant.
    Look agaon f*ckwit, my comment is about Blu-ray, not HD TV.
    Sorry to break it to you and ruin your obvious deluision but Blu-ray is not HD TV.

    Pi$$-poor guys
    (no matter how many of your buddies roll in to act as a chorus of support.

    Fail badly, again.

  113. Happyhockum:

    Just a reminder for the slow kids at the back, ncassies original comment was that I, apparantly said -

    “HDTV’s would “not take off” “time and time again”

    I have merely asked for this be backed up – or just save us all the bother & admit you’re full of sh!te.

    So far you’ve failed totally and it’s clear you’re full of it.

  114. Roca.:

    it only proved how pathetic you are to bash on something to just look stupid few months down the road…the fact that you are trying to avoid the heat shows.

    i have been a memeber of blorge for about 8-10 months and I have seen HH bash the PS3 in so many ways.

    -first it was the price, now that they are both the same he does not go there anymore.
    -then HD-DVD vs BD, HD-DVD ended up losing the war
    -then BD vs DD, they are both targeting different market so he does not go there anymore
    -then BD vs upscaled DVDs…lmaoo
    -then he got a BD player but he kept on bashing BD
    -He has also bash on wifi, UMD, the Wand and 3D
    -then saying 360 exclusives look better than PS3s while claiming ODST look better than Uncharted 2
    -hating on 3D even though is not even out and you have no idea what the future holds for it

  115. Roca.:

    Happyhockum:
    June 17th, 2009

    “The PS3 has a Blu-ray player built-in”

    No-one cares (except the PS3 faithful devoted).
    It’s only a means to deliver content (and it has its own drawbacks).

    So what that it has an expensive video format destined to be a failed niche product (like UMD)?
    That’s not ‘a good thing’.
    —————————————————
    Happyhockum:
    June 17th, 2009

    Blu-ray has failed already.
    UMD?

    So much of a failure it’s being dumped by the new PSP (while they charge similar money for a less capable unit), right?

    Did you hear about the Sony guy saying PS3 may drop Blu-ray?

    ————————————————–
    Happyhockum:
    June 17th, 2009

    We can already see from the Blu-ray growth rate (along with things like the HD TV penetration rate) that Blu-ray just can’t grow fast enough.

    You have to be pretty blind to think Blu-ray is ever going to be much more than a high-margin niche

    —————————————————

    Happyhockum:
    June 17th, 2009

    what I said about Blu-ray failing to take off (despite the boost including it in, what, 20 or so million PS3s by now?) is true.

    Blu-ray is guaranteed to be over-taken by other means & events
    Everyone but everyone knows digital distribution is the coming thing.

    Blu-ray is a stop-gap.
    Nothing more.
    Great if you can accept that, tough t*tty if you are ‘investing’ in it to last like DVD has done

  116. Roca.:

    http://gamer.blorge.com/2009/06/17/ps3-is-obviously-superior-to-the-xbox-360-from-a-technical-standpoint/

  117. phranctoast:

    How about this Happy. It’s from the same topic I posted. Of course how your first paragraph I quoted doesn’t read loud and clear is beyond me. Hi def meaning blu ray… and not TV’s?

    happy said:
    “Of course, I agree, you need the HD TV
    (I notice there are disputed numbers for that out right now, one source – Leichtman Research Group – said the USA has 34% or Nielson has just published stats saying it’s only 23% of households have HD TV).
    Then, it’s true, you also need the high-end audio kit (receiver & speakers).

    That’s why I do not see Blu-ray as going ‘mainstream’, the mass-market is never going to have the big enough HD TV (at normal viewing distances) to make 1080p worthwhile and neither are they likely to stump up for the audio necessary to make the most of the new audio standards.

    In time the market penetration will change – although far too late for Blu-ray, by then HD TV services, VOD, DVRs, streaming and downloading will have big chunks of the market.
    Blu-ray will merely be another minority niche. ”

    -What your response should have been was…

    Yep..Well, good find. I guess you got me there.

    I like how when you get cornered your best response is to get literal. “I didn’t say HD-TV’s wouldn’t “”take off”….” Close enough hot shot. close enough…

  118. ncaissie:

    LOL I know he has made that argument about HD TV’s many times. He may not have said they wont “take off” directly but in his BR arguments he has stated similar stuff many times. Saying BR wont make it because the HD TV penetration rate is not happening.
    I’m not reading your post HH so don’t bother responding. I get enough fiction from my TV shows I don’t need it from you too.

  119. Roca.:

    nacissie: “I know he has made that argument about HD TV’s many times. He may not have said they wont “take off” directly but in his BR arguments he has stated similar stuff many times. Saying BR wont make it because the HD TV penetration rate is not happening.”

    here is some proof (besides the one from Phranc):

    HH: “We can already see from the Blu-ray growth rate (along with things like the HD TV penetration rate) that Blu-ray just can’t grow fast enough”

  120. phranctoast:

    I wasn’t even going to bother looking, but he had to be such a douche about it.

    I blame happy..He forced my hand. :)

  121. ncaissie:

    LOL thanks guys.
    I ignore the douche most days.

  122. Liquid:

    lmao

    this is class A stuff! HH your a fool! LOL

    kinda reminds me when he told me i wasnt irish coz he has “relatives” in ireland. lmao

    remember HH you were gona have fun with the “wexford guy” ? then i described wexford and maybe look like the biggest tit pamela anderson would of been jealous!

    HH you fail everytime. . lol

  123. Happyhockum:

    You can self-support all you like but not once do I ever say what ncassie claimed I said.

    Not once.

    The best you can dredge up is a comment which means HD TV adoption is slow and this means Blu-ray adoption must necessarily therefore also be slow.

    That does not add up to ncassies invented BS where he said I said –

    ““HDTV’s would “not take off” “time and time again”

    If your English comprehension skills are so rubbish that you can’;t see that then don’t worry, everyone else can.
    Muppets.

  124. Happyhockum:

    In fact most amusing of all phranctoast dredged up a quote which actually says the opposite of what you lot and ncassie have been trying to say I said.

    “In time the market penetration will change”

    Hardly the same as the liar’s claim that I said

    “HDTV’s would “not take off” “time and time again”

    Face it, you lot are full of sh!te and copuldn’;t back up a word of your stupid claims.
    Fail badly, again.

    …..but thanks, I’ve spent 2 days watching you flounder around like a bunch of infantile f*ckwits desperately hoping something (anything!) could be found that came close.
    Too bad you failed so miserably – and publicly.

  125. Happyhockum:

    ….oh, and most laughably of all, Roca gave up even trying.

    He went on to doing his usual stuff when he’s f*cked up and got nothing, trying to shift subject to any number of a bunch of unrelated topics.

    Laughably pathetic & so transparent, as always.

  126. phranctoast:

    Actually Happy.

    He never said you said that they “would not” take off in the future. He said that you said (phew) that they “aren’t” taking off indicating present tense and not future.

    “This really looks like HD Tv’s are not taking off like the resident Xbots say time and time again.”

    vs

    ““HDTV’s would “not take off” “time and time again””

    I figure, since you like to be so literal, it was only right to play along.

  127. Happyhockum:

    phranctoast

    Actually he did.

    It’s in the posts above, you might like to look at them.

    “ncaissie:
    January 7th, 2010

    This really looks like HD Tv’s are not taking off like the resident Xbots say time and time again.
    LMFAO”

    CarlB asked him specifically what he was talking about -

    “January 7th, 2010

    Who said HDTV’s would “not take off” “time and time again”?

    ncassie replied –

    “January 7th, 2010

    HH mostly, as well as a few others. Not you but I like how you speak up when I say xbot. LOL”

    Jnuary 7th, 2010

    “HH actually said that HDTV’s would not be successful?”

    CarlB then said

    “January 7th, 2010

    HH actually said that HDTV’s would not be successful? I find that hard to believe… but maybe you could provide a quote?”

    ncassie started wriggling and back-tracking with this cr@p -

    ncaissie:
    January 7th, 2010

    HH said no one is buying HD TV’s right now so HDMI and BR is not needed.

    So, it’s there in writing, ncassie not only made the claim but added that apparantly I said it “time and time again”.

    And yet the best you lot can do is present one quote & link which in fact is something which says the opposite of that.

    Like Isaid pathetic.

    (and no amount of your trying to split hairs and help your f*ckwit pals out changes that one bit phranctaost)

  128. Roca.:

    Liquid: “this is class A stuff! HH your a fool! LOL
    kinda reminds me when he told me i wasnt irish coz he has “relatives” in ireland. lmao”

    I already told, you are going to have to put up with his stupidity

    @ Phranc

    good one, thanks for braking it down for his retarted ass

  129. Roca.:

    you just proved Phranc was right when he corrected you for not knowing to differentiate between present tense and past tense

    but anyways all the past quotes (fanboy rants) from you just proved how wrong you were/are. you just argue for the sake of trolling.

    you even went as far as to call UMD a failure and Phranc had to shut your ass down with this statement that you never addressed:
    “why would it be picked up by anyone else. It was good for one product. Why didn’t anyone “pick up” the Gamecubes proprietary format?”

    btw, will you admit that you did claim ODST look better than Uncharted 2 and that Upscaled DVDs look just as good bluray?

  130. Happyhockum:

    There you go, from the source of outright invented quotes comes the moron who can’t read and willfully decides a statement actually means the opposite.

    You’re a creepy cretin Roca.

  131. Happyhockum:

    Better luck shifting the ground next time cos you’ve failed badly here.

  132. phranctoast:

    so when questioned, ncaissie wasn’t being as literal as you, so therefore he said that..interesting.

    Why don’t you check the first thing he said.

    You really are something else.

    I provided direct quotes and you stick your fingers in your ears and pretend it doesn’t happen and now are relying on literal quotes to try and wriggle away.
    you sir fail.

    for everyones viewing pleasure.

    “That’s why I do not see Blu-ray as going ‘mainstream’, the mass-market is never going to have the big enough HD TV (at normal viewing distances) to make 1080p worthwhile and neither are they likely to stump up for the audio necessary to make the most of the new audio standards.”

  133. Liquid:

    HH your the one who failed! LMAO

  134. phranctoast:

    One quick question Happy. It’s unrelated to the current topic.

    If we had a similar bet about graphics last year like we do this year (you saying halo reach will have the best graphics) and Uncharted 2 was the game in question instead, would you have conceded yet?

  135. Roca.:

    Liquid: (in a previous article)

    “your such an idiot. your the laughing stock at blorge LOL”

    damn, you nailed this time :) lol

  136. Happyhockum:

    phranctoast

    ncassie is the one who said

    “HD Tv’s are not taking off like the resident Xbots say time and time again”

    When questioned he said I had said that.

    His caveat & wriggling came later after he had been asked twice and he twigged he’d said something really stupid.

    Of course you could have been in here correcting this evident garbage but you chose to roll in with the muppet crew and help them out.
    You must be so proud.

    You can try (like Roca) to shift this to umteen other topics if you like but that is all you’re doing.

    (and do feel free to explain how slow HD TV take up either has nothing to do with Blu-ray adoption or makes little difference, if you like.
    Post some total market penetration numbers for HD TV adoption if you want to go down the road of disputing that slow HD TV take-up must impact Blu-ray take up, I have mine handy)

    U2 isn’t my idea of the best graphics I’ve seen, sorry but it isn’t.
    At best it’s done a little differently but even there marginally so.

  137. JofaMang:

    How often can one post about posts that were made about posts that were made in response to other posts, before it all seems pointless? How long have I been coming here for?

  138. Happyhockum:

    Roca

    Try & deflect all you like but Blorge’s laughing stock is your alter-ego Ivan.

    A proven liar and fantasist.

    Who is probably just you on a different PC with a different log-in at the office you make the coffee in.

  139. Roca.:

    lmoa @ Jofa

    he just wont admit his fanboy rants. but hey we all had a good laugh. he’s been the laughing stuck for 2 days in a row

  140. Happyhockum:

    Yeah Roca, desperate to try and turn it back.

    You’re way too obvious & easy, shill.

  141. phranctoast:

    I even gave you a perfect “out”

    You could have said that at the time you made the quote HDTV penetration was indeed less, bit you chose to play the literal game.

    aren’t vs won’t

    I will say you are clearly wrong in this topic and your own quotes prove that, but that has no reason to say you are clearly wrong in your overall BRD debate.

    You main point being blu ray wont be the dominating force that DVD was due to all the split formats. That main point looks more and more clear as time goes on. Ouch..that hurt to say.

    anyhow. this didn’t answer my quesiton.

    “U2 isn’t my idea of the best graphics I’ve seen, sorry but it isn’t.
    At best it’s done a little differently but even there marginally so.”

    Would you have conceded the bet based off of the evidence we established?

  142. JofaMang:

    Just because BD may never live up to DVD’s proliferation, doesn’t eliminate it from being a viable, long term format.

    Using only the original digital entry point into consumer home theatre as a measuring stick for BD, a format that was released into a far more diversified marketplace, is innacurate and misleading. But indeed, very handy if you just want to find reasons to rag on BD, which HH has an displayed to us his obssession with, ad nauseum.

  143. Liquid:

    well guys im out, goin out clubbin now! wooo!

    ill back to piss HH off again

    cya lads

  144. phranctoast:

    baby seals?

  145. Happyhockum:

    phranctoast

    We’ve (as far as I’m aware) agreed the basis on which we’re going to judge this, what has that to do with U2?

  146. ncaissie:

    “You main point being blu ray wont be the dominating force that DVD was due to all the split formats. That main point looks more and more clear as time goes on. Ouch..that hurt to say.”

    This is changing fast. I like to rent movies now and then and the BR section is growing in the video store all the time. They are not going to remake every old movie on BR but as time goes on every movie is coming out on BR and more and more people (like me) only rent BR. The last time I was there BR was about 35% of the movie shelves.
    I was there for DVDs as well and it took just as long for them to take over the video stores.

    I think I’ll go this weekend to see how much more BR has taken over. I’ll let you know. Btw I rent at rogers video.

  147. phranctoast:

    “what has that to do with U2?”
    *hypothetical question.*

    What I’m simply trying to find out, based on the rules that we established for the Halo Reach bet….

    if the bet was made a year earlier and I was saying in the beginning of the year that U2 would be the best looking game of the year, would you concede that bet?

  148. Happyhockum:

    phranctoast

    Can’t honestly say as I’ve given it any thought, how many big independent awards and reviews are there and how many did U2 get this year?

  149. Happyhockum:

    Regardless of what the awards have to say and as I said I am personally not convinced by the big claims about U2.

    Games all seem to look quite similar to me and with a res limit imposed at 1080p for this gen I don’t see that changing too much.

  150. phranctoast:

    “Can’t honestly say as I’ve given it any thought, how many big independent awards and reviews are there and how many did U2 get this year?”

    h**p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_received_by_Uncharted_2:_Among_Thieves

    “Regardless of what the awards have to say and as I said I am personally not convinced by the big claims about U2.”

    That’s OK. The bet never had anything to do with either one of out opinions anyway.

  151. phranctoast:

    out=our

  152. CarlB:

    “Not really Carlb.
    Harry used to put down blu ray. Maybe about a year ago.”

    So he joked about it “maybe” a year ago… wow. Besides, he owns a blu-ray player (PS3) today.

    “The last post also has Carlb saying he’ll get a PS3 when it’s $150 and gow3 is out.”

    I also said I would get a PS3 when trophies were standard, the price came down, more great exclusives came out for it to justify that price, there was a redesign, and full PS2 bc was put back in… 4 out of 5 isn’t bad, but I’m still waiting for God of War 3 ;)

  153. Roca.:

    “I will most likely pick up my PS3 for $150 in 2011 to play God of War III. Or a backwards compatible PS4 that has a trophies and ranking standard for all games”

    1- $150? no
    2- 2011? no
    3- BC? no
    4- PS4? no
    5- ranking? no
    6- trophies? yes
    7- GoW3? no (not yet)

    1 out 7 was enough to buy a PS3 :D

  154. phranctoast:

    No need to get testes…. He inquired…you answered it thinking it was due to fanboyish reasons..I just set the record straight.

    “Besides, he owns a blu-ray player (PS3) today. ”

    Soon you all shall.. muuuuhahahahahahahahahaha

  155. ncaissie:

    “he joked about it” LOL sure.

  156. Happyhockum:

    phranctoast

    Get over yourself, I really won’t you know.
    WTF for?

  157. Roca.:

    answer his question, you guys made a bet and now your are twisted what the bet was based on…..pathetic

  158. Roca.:

    twisted = twisting

  159. CarlB:

    Not at all phranc… just thought it was a bit odd considering the general environment here on a daily basis.

    @roca,

    Not hardly. But what can I say… God of War III was truly the only game that I really wanted to play on PS3 back then… and it’s still not out yet :(

  160. phranctoast:

    “Get over yourself, I really won’t you know.”

    ??????????

    @Roca

    The bet was for this year not last year.

    I’m just asking him a hypothetical question. I have my reasons.

  161. Roca.:

    I know it was for this year (2010) but he is still twisting what the bet was based on

    here is his answer to your hypothetical question:

    HH: “Regardless of what the awards have to say and as I said I am personally not convinced by the big claims about U2.”

    expect a similar answer at end of the year

  162. Roca.:

    @ CarlB

    GoW3 was announced for the first time at E3 2008 (June). The game its coming out in March 2010, 1.5 years after it was first announced

  163. phranctoast:

    That answer is his opinion. Opinions arent viable in this type of bet.

  164. phranctoast:

    Let me correct that. “Our”opinions aren’t viable.

  165. Roca.:

    I clearly recall you saying the bet was based on which game gets the most awards for graphics.

  166. CarlB:

    Roca, I know, but thanks. I was just hoping it would have come out by now (maybe along with a few other gamers) a couple of years into PS3′s lifecycle, or at least a couple of years after God of War II (as GoWII came out two years after GoWI), instead of 3 and a half (kind of like GT5). Excellence takes time though, right? Besides, it makes perfect sense: God of War I (Mar 2005), God of War II (Mar 2007, 2 years) God of War III (Mar 2010, 3 years). Also, it’s still not 2011, so I guess I should count myself lucky… lolam.

  167. phranctoast:

    “I clearly recall you saying the bet was based on which game gets the most awards for graphics.”

    ding ding ding. You are correct sir.

  168. Ivan_PSP:

    God of War III is for March 2010

  169. Happyhockum:

    Roca

    Go troll a row somewhere else, idiot, you clearly haven’t a f*cking clue about what you’re dribbling on about here.

    WTF was it to you anyways?

    Like as if it involved your sorry ar$e in the slightest way.

    phranctoast and I know exactly what we agreed on.

    For fun.

    Not for your tediuous attempts at starting an argument.

    You sad spiteful f*ckwitted moron.

  170. Ivan_PSP:

    Sony has the most awarded games. PS3 is just for master piece we are spoil by Sony corp. 2010 looks like another year is coming for us PS3 owners to enjoy our spoil. I can’t wait for Heavy Rain Feb 23rd and God of War III March for my 23rd birthday sweet.

  171. Roca.:

    you surely were the laughing stuck of the day…same time tomorrow?

  172. Happyhockum:

    Oh dear.

    The term is ‘laughing stock’ moron.

    ….and the only laughing stocks around here are the likes of lying Ivan and yourself who relies upon others to roll in saying anything to stop you looking a t*t.

  173. oldschool1987:

    Get your handbags out.

  174. Ghost:

    @Ivan
    Didn’t you just have a birthday not to long ago? How many B-days do you have every year?

  175. CarlB:

    One for every Sony exclusive that comes out… lol.

  176. Ivan_PSP:

    Ghost:
    No i didn’t. I was born March 9, 1987

  177. Knighthawk:

    Don’t really see this as a shock. PS3 is a such a great value @ $299. The games are really getting quite good. Anyone who love games, is a true gamer and can really afford it should own both the PS3 and Xbox 360. You really would be missing out on some great experiences only having one or the other. I consider myself very lucky to be able to have the best of both worlds!

    A little off topic but I went to see Avatar in 3D. Personally I did not think it was good… it was AMAZING! Happy Hockum, sorry but I have to strongly disagree with alot of your opinions about that movie, about 3D, and how Blu Ray could tie into that. 3D, I don’t see that as being a fad. Avatar was such a treat. I could never watch that movie in 2D, it would loose so much of it’s magic! Happy, I really have to wonder if your whole opinion on that movie, 3D and them bringing 3D quality like that home would be different if Microsoft had hold over BluRay!

    I’m not near ready to buy some new fancy 3D capable TV. Perhaps in 5 years time I will be. If they are offering that kind of experience in the home for a decent price, I think there is a big future for 3D in movies and gaming! Avatar was almost 3 hours long and I didn’t want it to end. Saw a preview for more 3D movies and really am excited to see them as well. 3D is here to stay and a stepping stone to the amazing things they will come out with next in the future. I feel like a kid again going to the movies now a days. Don’t get me wrong, 3D alone does not make a great movie. Avatar was well done, it did not rely on just the pretty 3D effects. If anyone likes movies and have not seen Avatar yet, go see it…in 3D!

  178. oldschool1987:

    @ Knighthawk: HappyHockum is just a Microsoft fanboy mate who seems to bash anything Sony related: Blue Ray, PS3, etc. Seeing as Sony are the biggest 3D marketers he bashes it. Avatar is easily one of the best films of the last year, I waited 3 years to see it and weren’t disapointed. One of the only hype films that lived up in my eyes.

  179. Happyhockum:

    Knighthawk

    I went to see Avatar in both 2D & 3D.

    I think you have this all wrong.

    Yes I will agree that Avatar was the best implementation and most convincing 3D I’ve yet seen – I’ve even recommended some of my family go and see it whilst it’s still around to experience it.
    K?

    But my main point is that effects, no matter how impressive in themselves, do not themselves make for a great movie and/or great story telling, that’s simply a fact.

    Secondly, and in relation to 3D especially, expecting people to watch their ordinary or regular TV (whatever soaps they are into or just several hours of a nights viewing) with 3D glasses on is unrealistic and isn’t going to happen.

    3D is simply irrelevant to most TV output and with current flat panel TVs could be seriously distracting and diminish the entire effect
    (that’s the ‘looking into a small diorama’ effect I was talking about before)

    Once you accept that then automatically right there you just chopped away 3D to an occasional option, not a mainstream part of TV watching, for those that can be bothered.

    Plus there’s the glasses thing which no matter how many stand up and say it doesn’t bother them there are plenty who do.

    Of course it has to be remembered that a hugely expensive and very glossy one-off movie in a movie theatre is different – but that hardly ‘breaks’ a whole new tech in the home and ensures it takes off with all your relatives (especially the ones not 30 or younger).

    I expect the tech for this to simply become part of the spec for new HD TVs.
    So it will, slowly, very slowly, bleed into the market.
    I do not see it being a spec most people go out and look for.

    Everyone who has bought an HD TV to date (and it really is just about every single set sold to date) is hardly going to be thrilled to find out they need a new one – a new one which for almost every brand isn’t even out yet.

    Now, I don’t know about you but Avatar is in the process of having been and will shortly be gone.
    Where’s the steady stream of the next 3D movies with a 1/2 billion $ effects budget from a director with talent?

    I would be saying the same thing if Microsoft had brought this out and was touting it as the next big thing btw
    (sorry oldschool1987 but you are so wrong).

    I’m old enough to have seen 3D come and go several times – and whilst older versions of 3D in a side-by-side comparison don’t look as good as today’s one does back then we didn’t have that comparison and the 3D movies were considered spectacular and very impressive too.

    The real thing going on here is the fanboy element get star-struck by almost every new item of shiny-shiny.
    No biggee, and not to patronise, it’s just simply that’s what youngsters are like and do.

    Most adults over a certain age aren’t quite so easily impressed, we’ve seen it loads of times before
    (as in a constant stream of the latest new impressive shiny-shiny, if not the actual article in question).

    99 times out of 100 it usually turns out to be a load of cr@p which doesn’t quite deliver on its promise in the home & which we didn’t really need afterall.

    Try not to get too disappointed once you discover the truth of this. ;)

  180. Happyhockum:

    …..and just to add something I haven’t mentioned here but did say before (before someone misquotes me), if they can do it without specs convincingly then that may well change everything.

    But tbh I just don’t see small/med flat screen panel sizes (the 32″ – 50″ most will ever buy) escaping the diorama effect.

  181. Liquid:

    HH

    do you not think if enough funding is put into this that they mite actually reach a point when it can be achieved without glasses?

    also its your own oppinion that it wont take off and you were wrong about blu ray aswell

  182. Knighthawk:

    @Happyhockum

    A well written response Happy, always gald to see the other point of view. You make some points that really are open to thought or addressing.

    Glad you enjoyed Avatar and have told others to go see it. I agree with you that 3D is not meant for all aspects of visual media. I do however think there is and will be a future for it in gaming and movies. Yes I agree that the glasses for 3D are something that does need to change in order to make it appealing to more people. As Liquid just said above me I think they will be able to achive this with some sort of framless design or without glasses at all.

    Thank you for the thoughtful and well written reply Happy. Though I may not agree with you on some of your ideas or visions, I do enjoy a good debate and an alternative point of view!

  183. CarlB:

    “do you not think if enough funding is put into this that they mite actually reach a point when it can be achieved without glasses?”

    I don’t think it will be with 3D capable TV sets, or even 3DTV sets. The glasses seem to provide that necessary layer that is closest to your eyes in order to trick them. What you are talking about would require holographic projection sets which would make it entirely possible, however it just wouldn’t be the same, as it is likely the projection would be transparent. Maybe with the holodeck or nanodeck, but that’s another 15-30 years out (respectively) at least.

    Every new DLP is 3D capable and some new plasmas are (Samsung 50″ plasma – $1200, and that’s March’s quote)… the thing is, many tv shows and movies are as well, but they are not designed for it, only a few are. That would call for a push behind making the majority of movies and shows designed with 3d in mind as well.*

    Wired recently estimated $20,000 for an actual 3D television from CES, but they still require glasses.**

    Popular Mechanics shows how to do it with any 3D capable set you have now.*

    Sources:
    *
    http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/how_to/4310812.html
    **
    http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/01/3d-tvs-grab-cur/

  184. CarlB:

    “do you not think if enough funding is put into this that they mite actually reach a point when it can be achieved without glasses?”

    I don’t think it will be with 3D capable TV sets, or even 3DTV sets. The glasses seem to provide that necessary layer that is closest to your eyes in order to trick them. What you are talking about would require holographic projection sets which would make it entirely possible, however it just wouldn’t be the same, as it is likely the projection would be transparent. Maybe with the holodeck or nanodeck, but that’s another 15-30 years out (respectively) at least.

    Every new DLP is 3D capable and some new plasmas are (Samsung 50″ plasma – $1200, and that’s March’s quote)… the thing is, many tv shows and movies are as well, but they are not designed for it, only a few are. That would call for a push behind making the majority of movies and shows designed with 3d in mind as well.*

    Wired recently estimated $20,000 for an actual 3D television from CES, but they still require glasses.**

    Popular Mechanics shows how to do it with any 3D capable set you have now.*

    Sources:
    *
    http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/how_to/4310812.html
    **
    wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/01/3d-tvs-grab-cur/

  185. Happyhockum:

    Knighthawk

    Back at you. Respect.

  186. Happyhockum:

    Careful CarlB
    you know that by not expressing anything but the utmost devotion to the idea and expectation that it will be adopted through-out the western world to saturation within the next 2 weeks that you’ll be tagged as a ‘hater’ and Microsoft bigot.

    Expect to hear a lot of PR about 3D, the whole CE industry has blinded itself into thinking it is the answer to the current economic disaster.

    (which given the necessary time-scales involved, even if it does sell well, is ludicrous)

  187. Roca.:

    “Happy, I really have to wonder if your whole opinion on that movie, 3D and them bringing 3D quality like that home would be different if Microsoft had hold over BluRay!”

    you can bet on it

    scenario 1
    HH – “Avatar is shit”
    scenario 2
    HH – “3D is a failure”
    scenario 3
    HH- “I went to see Avatar in both 2D & 3D”

  188. CarlB:

    It’s likely just as many people would be decrying it as praising it here if Microsoft had hold over the movie, 3D, and bringing 3D quality to the home. As it is Sony doesn’t have hold of it, though it could impact Blu-ray standalone sales significantly. 20th Century Fox has the movie, LG has a larger stake in 3DTV’s than Sony at present, and several electronics, software, and computer manufacturers are working on bringing 3D quality to the home, not just Sony.

  189. Roca.:

    “”Sony is the only company with expertise in every part of the 3D value chain” – Sir Howard Stringer

    and you are right Sony doesnt have hold of the 3D tech, they can’t monopolize that feature but they are the only company that has their hands in 3D on all fronts, from movies, HDTVs, Carmaras, Gaming Consoles, Gaming softwares, BD players, PC even e-readers

  190. CarlB:

    Sony has has produced a 3D movie, 3D console, 3D “Gaming softwares”, 3D PC, and a 3D e-reader? Really? That interesting… could you provide a link please?

  191. Happyhockum:

    Pi$$ off Roca, the grown-ups were talking.

  192. Roca.:

    you didnt understand why i tried to said CarlB

    Sony is the only company that has their hands in 3D on all fronts, which will include ovies, HDTVs, Carmaras, Gaming Consoles, Gaming softwares, BD players, PC even e-readers

    HH, talk to me on Monday, your only good to me to kill time at work with stuff like this

    scenario 1
    HH – “Avatar is shit”
    scenario 2
    HH – “3D is a failure”
    scenario 3
    HH- “I went to see Avatar in both 2D & 3D”

  193. CarlB:

    I highly doubt 3D will effect e-readers roca, but nice fluff. And yes, they do manufacture many electronics devices… so many it is said they are losing their focus with PS3′s success…

    http://ps3.ign.com/articles/105/1059483p1.html

  194. Happyhockum:

    Roca.:
    January 10th, 2010

    “you didnt understand why i tried to said CarlB”

    When you write in your rushed drooling total gibberish like this nobody cvan understand a thing you’re trying to say, f*ckwit.

    You’ll be providing quotes & links showing where I actually said

    - “Avatar is shit”

    S’funny how you (like Ivan) can write out your trademark devastating critique without screwing that up.

    I was unimpressed by the Avatar story (even though I like the principles of what Cameron is trying to say), the story is hackneyed and derivative.

    I don’t believe I ever said what you claim here, so, once again you’re making a moron of yourself reducing yourself to the laughable situation of inventing quotes in your own head.

    I bet you get lovely flashing lights and music in there to go with it.
    Cretin.

    - “I went to see Avatar in both 2D & 3D”

    OK. Well yes I did go and see Avatar in both 2D and 3D.
    And. So. What?
    I’d say that gives me a better appreciation of the 3D than those who only saw it the once.

    - “3D is a failure”

    I’d love to know how you can say at this early stage that 3D will do anything much.
    With everyone needing a new HD TV we’re at least 5 – 10yrs off of being able to tell anything about it.

    You pathetic trolling moron.

  195. CarlB:

    Considering one just needs the glasses and a pc w/software with several new and existing tv’s (approximately $1000 entry point), I think it will be a very short time until “3D boxes” (similar in form factor to Roku) come out. I still don’t think these, or true 3DTV’s, will be mainstream anytime soon, but we will see a lot more of this by the end of the year, it’s not going away.

  196. Roca.:

    @CarlB

    “yes, they do manufacture many electronics devices… so many it is said they are losing their focus with PS3’s success…”

    hahaha….like always, focusing only on the negative crap talk to for another attempt to try to put down the PS3…lmaoo

  197. Roca.:

    HH,

    no need explanation for your rants (you excuse failed)

    scenario 1
    HH – “Avatar is shit”
    scenario 2
    HH – “3D is a failure”
    scenario 3
    HH- “I went to see Avatar in both 2D & 3D”

  198. Happyhockum:

    Roca

    Then you’ll have no problem proving those assetions.

    Go ahead.

    Meanwhile I shall once again be sitting laughing at you as the time ticks by and you are again proven to be nothing but empty hot air and piss.

  199. CarlB:

    @Roca, actually, I really want the PSP to stick around, especially as I depend on it for entertainment while travelling. I just thought IGN had an interesting take… perhaps there is a chance PS3 could be more successful if all the resources that went into PSP instead went to PS3? It’s okay… if you try real hard, every once in a while you can think critically… in fact I know you can do it… just look back on all your comments about anything 360 or Microsoft related… now… I know this might cause your brain to hemorrhage, but try doing the same for PS3 every once in a blue moon… lol.

  200. Roca.:

    “scenario 1
    HH – “Avatar is shit”
    scenario 2
    HH – “3D is a failure”
    scenario 3
    HH- “I went to see Avatar in both 2D & 3D””

    proved~~!

    get back at me on monday though, you bored to death during the weekend..you might help kill work time during weekdays but on the weekend you aint no good

  201. Roca.:

    “yes, they do manufacture many electronics devices… so many it is said they are losing their focus with PS3’s success”

    yeah, like SCEA, SCEJ, and SCEA’s studios are fucusing on making 3D devices…right?

    Sony has everything covered, they have different divisions working on different stuff…its just common sense

  202. Roca.:

    carlB

    its funny that everytime you quote IGN is on negative comments about the PS3 or Sony. you attempt to praise MS is noticeable

  203. CarlB:

    as your attempts to praise Sony/PS3 and put down Microsoft is noticeable… is that somehow better?… lol

  204. Happyhockum:

    Roca

    You might have a little credibility if you could ever back up youyr quotes with a link & the real quote instead of you own pure invention…..oh sorry, you’re calling them ‘scenarios’ now (do you even know what a ‘scenario’ is?).

    1) I was unimpressed by Avatar’s story.
    Wow.
    Call the Police.
    So what?

    2) 3D isn’t even out in the home yet so quiote how you spoof off as if it’s a done deal is frankly as laughable as usual.

    3) Yeah I did. I saw Avatar in 2D & 3D.
    And what?
    It at least gives me a reasonable POV when it comes to discussing it & the 3D.
    If you haven’t seen it in both how can you claim to know all about it?

    Simply writing “proved” just underlines your infantile mentality.

    You sad trollong f*ckwit.

  205. Roca.:

    “as your attempts to praise Sony/PS3 and put down Microsoft is noticeable… is that somehow better?”

    I least I dont play the the “balance” nonesense nor im the one who’s hiding behind the fanboy closet…

  206. Roca.:

    HH – “Wow.
    Call the Police.”

    sorry I stop playing that game when I was 5

    scenario 1
    HH – “Avatar is shit”
    scenario 2
    HH – “3D is a failure”
    scenario 3
    HH- “I went to see Avatar in both 2D & 3D”
    sceniaro 4
    HH – “ODST look better than Uncharted 2″
    sceniaro 5
    HH – “Bluray in a failure”
    sceniaro 6
    HH – “upscaled DVDs look just as good as Bluray movies”

    then you made a bet based on graphical awards then you came up with the lamest excuse ever for hypothetical question:

    HH – “Regardless of what the awards have to say and as I said I am personally not convinced by the big claims about U2″

  207. CarlB:

    “I least I dont play the the “balance” nonesense”

    Yes, you really seem to have some aversion to praising more than one console/company whatsoever for some reason or other, sorry if I don’t share that tendency… I’m still looking forward to God of War III though, and my PSP will keep me happy company on my way to Japan… for now it’s Bayonetta on 360.

  208. Happyhockum:

    You just get more and more stupid Roca.

    Of course anyone watching any of this can see it’s your feeble attempt to divert from you own stupidity.

    Laughably transparent & utterly moronic, as usual.

    Still, as the resident fanboy idiot it’s not as if it’s unexpected.

  209. Happyhockum:

    Oh and your claim that I said
    “upscaled DVDs look just as good as Bluray movies”
    is just so typical of your lies.

    Or is it your own stupidity?

    I said some high def transfers (on HD DVD & Blu-ray, actually) as so poor that they look little better than upscaled DVD.

    Which is factually correct & nothing like the same thing you are claiming I’ve said.

    But obviously you’re too thick – or plain deceitful – to understand the difference.

  210. Happyhockum:

    Roca

    “Bluray in a failure”

    ha ha ha ha ha ha

    See, too stupid and ignorant to be anything but a risible figure of derision.

  211. CarlB:

    Hey Happy… this isn’t anything against you, but lay off a little on Roca huh? We don’t need the name calling or the insults… and I think we can stay civil and still have discussions focused on point, right?

  212. Happyhockum:

    CarlB

    If he quits his little leg-humping act then I’ll stop ripping on him.

    Simple as my friend.

  213. Roca.:

    CarlB

    dont worry, i wont go down to his level…I appreciate that you & me can keep our discussion in a civil manner. HH is just mad because ncaissie, phranc, liquid and I made him look like a clown on friday.

    just look at the way he replied to you…it is obvious that he cant stay civil and that he is mad because he was the joke of the day on friday.

  214. Happyhockum:

    Yeah well, you tried CarlB and look what you got.

    The guy’s full of childish trolling BS, frankly I don’t know why you bothered, you know by now what he’s like.

    Couldn’t you see that sh!te coming a mile off?

  215. phranctoast:

    “phranctoast and I know exactly what we agreed on.

    For fun.

    Not for your tediuous attempts at starting an argument.

    You sad spiteful f*ckwitted moron.”

    That was a bit rude.

    To be honest, you have no idea of my intentions.

  216. Roca.:

    keep it coming HH…your panties are starting to show.

  217. Happyhockum:

    Awww Roca’s bored and nobody’s playing.

  218. Roca.:

    like I said…keep it coming HH.

  219. Happyhockum:

    phranctoast

    OK.

    Well, you know what?
    If it isn’t for a bit of fun then forget it.

    I really can’t be ar$ed with playing along with any stupid & ridiculous ulterior motives beyond that.

    That was, as I said right at the time, the only reason I stopped bothering to argue about how to the define ‘win’ so as to enable the bet to happen, for a bit of fun.

    If you want to invest it with anything beyond that then rock on, on your own.

  220. kev:

    keep dreaming fanboys…..

    a new nielson study shows people play the 360 the most, the ps2 (yes, TWO) second with the ps3 somewhere near the last….

    but somehow, people are going to just magically wake up and decide to shell out for an over priced bluray player with a smaller library than the competition?

    *sigh* no wonder ps3 fanboys are pointed at and laughed at….they’re morons…lmao…

  221. CarlB:

    @kev,

    If it was just a blu-ray player, I could see your point (but even then it’s not as exorbitantly overpriced as say, a 360 hard drive upgrade), but it is a game console as well, and it’s exclusives are worth the time and money spent on a second console, for me at least… and it seems Harry as well. I’m not a fanboy of PS3 (or 360) by any means, but I do enjoy great games, and the PS3 has several you cannot play on 360.

  222. oldschool1987:

    Kev how old are you?

  223. oldschool1987:

    ‘no wonder ps3 fanboys are pointed at and laughed at….they’re morons…lmao…’

    Where’s your source? lol

  224. Liquid:

    HH

    here is the link that you wer sayin 3D and avatar ar shit

    http://gamer.blorge.com:80/2009/12/16/sony-on-2010-ps3-ps4-psn-motion-control-backwards-compatibility/#comments

  225. Roca.:

    thanks Liquid,

    you always there to make HH look like an ass

  226. phranctoast:

    Are you saying there were no clear rules to the bet? Thats kind of lame. I was under the impression is was fully fleshed.

    I still don’t see any harm in you answering my hypothetical question. It’s not really all that hard. Most of us already know the answer.

    The point I’m trying to make will be crystal clear after you answer. That is a promise, regardless of your answer.

  227. Happyhockum:

    I said it was sh!te actually – and it was.

    Or are you going to try and claim it was the most original story a veritable ground-breaking and challenger of global renoun to some of our finest stories (taught along side Shakespeare, Milton, Plato et al)?

    It was bubble-gum.
    Feely good bubble-gum.

    Naturally though, as the local acting opinion-fascists, you can’t stand a view at odds with your own and the fact I was not wildly impressed becomes a point on which to act as if I’ve just taken a pi$$ on Christ himself.

    To anyone sane it’s a complete irrelevance what I thought or did not think of the film.

  228. Happyhockum:

    phranctoast

    Naaaa, I tried to gave it a go but you decided to f*ck about and make something more of it.

    So thanks but no thanks.

    Go play with the Rocas and his socky pals, they might be able to be bothered.

  229. Liquid:

    HH you asked for the link so stop “wriggling” your way out of it now that you have it.

    seriously doh man will you just take a chill pill? your so tense and uptight. just relax. . . . breathe in. . . . . breathe out. . . . that wasnt so hard now was it?

  230. phranctoast:

    I’m actually not trying to make more of it, which will be apparent when you answer the question.

    It’s not your opinion anyway. Don’t see why you need to act like you are.

    I’m doing it to prove a point and you’ll understand fully after I hear an answer to the question.

  231. Happyhockum:

    phranctoast

    I said at the time I was agreeing so as to have the bet for a bit of fun.

    You say that’s not your motivation, fine.

    Carry on.

    Alone.

  232. phranctoast:

    Answer the question and all will be revealed.

    If you can’t answer it our Halo Reach bet is off.

    For obvious reasons.

  233. Liquid:

    i love proving HH wrong

    you were begging roca for a link and when i give you one you say “i said shite actually” and didnt say anything else.

    why do you write swear words with little symbols? look mr retard. . .

    sh!te = shite
    fu*kwit = fuckwit
    ar$e = arse
    HH = double ended dildo

    you see??

  234. Roca.:

    he is a total clown…backing off from a bet after it was already in place…what kind of pussy move is that?

    it’s just a simple question…why you have to go through all this just to avoid it?

  235. Happyhockum:

    ….and we have a right little gang of Pbots jabbering away.

    Enjoy your boring yourselves to death in your own company.

    I’m not playing anymore.
    You’re way too obvious & way too boring.

  236. Roca.:

    nice getaway there….when can’t keep up and put up a valid argument thats when you usually run away

  237. Liquid:

    agree with roca . . . . HH close the door on your way out

  238. Happyhockum:

    *laughing at you*

    Enjoy another slow day sad-sack.

  239. phranctoast:

    Yeah..He’s quite the coward.

    I’d tell him what I was getting at if I didn’t honestly believe it would destroy the integrity of the question and the original bet itself.

  240. Roca.:

    the bet didnt even lasted a single month…HH called the bet off just because of a simple “hypothetical” question which we all already know the answer.

    HH, you just proved how lame you are. and yes it will be a slow day for you…you have been the laughing stock since friday.

  241. Happyhockum:

    Yeah, there you go, back to your default.

    Whinging and crying like kiddies, all cos you busted your own dreary little game prematurely.

    Nevermind.

    Hey, if it makes you feel better take the time to type out some abuse.

    Unfortunately though the only effect it will have is to add to my amusement.

  242. Roca.:

    like I said,

    the bet didnt even lasted a single month…HH called the bet off just because of a simple “hypothetical” question which we all already know the answer. [a coward's move]

  243. Liquid:

    HH i thought you said you were leaving?

  244. phranctoast:

    It’s for the best anyway. It was an unfair bet and easily favored me as the victor. That much is obvious.

    The humor lies in the fact that you’re so afraid what Roca will say to you if/when you answer my question that you straight up refuse to do it. Pretty funny considering I’m asking it and not to belittle you.

  245. Liquid:

    and what game are we meant to be crying and whinging over? HH your a faggot. . . damn the words just fell out of my mouth.

  246. Liquid:

    phranc

    im lost, what is the bet?

  247. phranctoast:

    @liquid
    This link sums it up better.

    http://gamer.blorge.com/2009/12/11/greenberg-thinks-halo-reach-to-be-biggest-game-of-2010-gran-turismo-5/comment-page-2/#comment-95695

  248. phranctoast:

    Here’s another stupid thing he said that we should have bet on as well.

    “Halo Reach willl be (by far) the biggest selling game in this coming year (2010).

    Alan Wake won’t be very far behind it.”

  249. Liquid:

    i think HH has swallowed to much MS cum, he has lost all reason. . .

  250. Roca.:

    this is also a good one

    [HH statement about the bet]
    “It’s £20, not the end of the earth.
    OK awards it is.
    Bookmark and we’ll come back to this”

    30 days later….he pulled out of it and could NOT hold his side of the bargain

  251. oldschool1987:

    HH i gotta ask, What the fuck is a sad sack??? And don’t say ‘A sad sack is Roca’ because that don’t explain to me how that is in anyway an insult lol.

    Cock breath is a good one.

  252. Happyhockum:

    oldschool1987

    You never heard that one before?
    It’s nothing especially new, it was one of John Lydon’s favs.

  253. oldschool1987:

    Nope never heard it… or of Johnny boy.

  254. Happyhockum:

    Never heard of John Lydon?!

    AKA Jonny Rotten?

  255. phranctoast:

    A sad sack

    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3274/2699703584_9eb72d9b49.jpg

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