Valve loves Natal but not “s**tty” games

February 22, 2010

The reason many hardcore gamers dislike the Wii and its control system is the type of games available for the console. Valve thinks – hopes – that developers will up the ante and quality for the Xbox 360′s motion-sensing control system, Natal.

Love it or hate it, motion-sensing control is already big business thanks to the Wii, and set to get even bigger upon release of Natal and Arc on Xbox 360 and PS3 respectively. But what will differentiate both of these from each other and from the Wii Remote are the games. Pure and simple.

And on this score, Valve (Half-Life, Left 4 Dead) is clear in its thoughts on what kinds of games should be developed. At least for Natal. Chet Faliszek told CVG:

Hopefully we’ve gotten past the point of mini-games. I’m sick of that [makes arm movement]. That’s not a game for me anymore. Let’s get some real interaction going. We have these technologies now that let us interact in different, really exciting ways. It’s developers’ jobs to do something with it. Impress me. Don’t just make s**tty games I wouldn’t want to play if I had to use a joystick.

He has a point. Some Wii games are crap to the point you only attempt to play them because they use motion-sensing. Take that aspect away and you’re left with a “s**tty” mini-game. Hopefully Natal and Arc will persuade developers to make games with a little more substance than the typical Wii fare.



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45 Responses to “Valve loves Natal but not “s**tty” games”

  1. gamer_thumb:

    Although I’m sure many great games will be made for sony and MS make no mistake, there will be shovelware. Every crappy motion controlled game that made it’s way onto the wii will try to find a spot on your beloved HD consoles. Yes there will be Natal ninjabread man and Chicken Shoot Arc, multi-platform Petz and babiez and other things that can end in Z. You can hope Sony and MS won’t allow them but in the end there is money to be made. Developers will want to cash in and each console will want to boast that they have the most motion controlled games. Of course you won’t buy them but others will no matter how much you warn them. Don’t even get me started on the peripherals that will come out. Plastice guns, bats, tennis rackets, swords…. it never stops. Welcome to the world of motion control and try to be understanding when your child begs you to buy Natal Carnival Games.

  2. Rhino:

    LOL I’m sorry, here’s one of the laziest developers’ around shouting out “It’s developers’ jobs to do something with it”.

    Same that doesn’t apply to the PS3 you fucking moron.

  3. CON:

    The same lazy developers who made Half Life 2, one of the greatest games of our time. Sure.

  4. FahKinSuPah:

    I agree with Chet Faliszek’s opinion. The Wii is full of mini-games pretending to be real games.

    Probably the best game I played on Wii is Metroid Prime 3. That game definately had the motion sensing tech implemented well into it. Eventually I will buy the Prime trilogy for Wii and play through it.

  5. gamer_thumb:

    @ FahKinSuPah
    MP trilogy is incredible and really makes me wonder why there aren’t more FPS for the wii. Anyway be sure to pick it up soon, Nintendo has just discontinued shipping it.

  6. Rimmer:

    well all valve need to do is stop their moaning and actually design a motion sensing game that appeals to them.

  7. phranctoast:

    Enough with this L4D BS. Lets see Episode 3 already.

  8. CON:

    I don’t think there ever was going to be an episode 3. Maybe they’re just evil ppl who designed the best game ever and just thought it would be funny to leave everyone hanging!

  9. CON:

    Prepare for unforeseen consequences

  10. Liquid:

    episode 3 is the only reason why im keeping the orange box, i gotta know how it all ends! whatever happened in the borealis sounds creepy. . . it is the borealis isnt it?

  11. CON:

    I heard they were creating a totally new engine to take over the Source engine. If this is true I have no doubt this will be mind blowing. Remember the difference between half life 2 and ps2 games when it came out?

    This may be the game that pulls PC gaming back to its rightful top spot.

  12. phranctoast:

    The Source engine was good because of its efficiency. It looked great even on non high end machines.

    Being that PC gaming appears to be dying a bit (Which Saddens me) The new source engine should be created with the consoles in mind as well. Kind of how the CryEngine is being developed now.

  13. Roca.:

    lazy doesnt mean unskilled.

  14. ncaissie:

    “The reason many hardcore gamers dislike the Wii and its control system is the type of games available for the console.”
    That is a load of crap. I hate the controls. I would play the new Mario but the stupid controls make it unplayable. For instance when you have to make a pounding motion to break blocks.

  15. Barnabe Jones:

    So minigames are shitty, but on-the-rails shooters aren’t? …..right.

  16. phranctoast:

    Theres a place for everything BJ. I for one would really enjoy a decent arc port of Dead Space Extraction and thats an on rails shooter.

  17. Roca.:

    “Theres a place for everything BJ. I for one would really enjoy a decent arc port of Dead Space Extraction and thats an on rails shooter.”

    for $15 you can’t really complain, but I dont see my self paying $50-$60 for a on rails shooter, which is much wii owner paid for it

  18. phranctoast:

    Maybe it will be released as a PSN title before Dead Space 2 comes out.

  19. Roca.:

    I think you missed it, I posted about a month ago that EA is going to release Dead Space Extraction on the PSN and XBLag for $15

  20. phranctoast:

    I thought I saw that but I wasn’t sure if it was just my imagination.

  21. harry sachz:

    XBLag…. you’re sounding like Ivan…..

  22. Roca.:

    @harry
    what can I say, blorge was pretty slow today……. ;)

  23. CAD:

    Come on now Harry actions speak louder then words. At least Ivan buys a 360 even if he talks shit he still bought it so he can’t be that stupid like our friend who loves to talk about shit and has no clue or experience about anything he is saying. Pitiful little fanboy he is. I only hope one day everyone has sense to just go multiplatform and stop doing an injustice to yourself and being a stupid Fanboy limiting your experience and making an ass out of yourself.

  24. CarlB:

    @harry,

    wouldn’t be the first time….. ;)

  25. Roca.:

    “being a stupid Fanboy limiting your experience and making an ass out of yourself.”

    sounds like CAD

  26. CAD:

    I’m glad that you know I’m talking to you Roca.

  27. Roca.:

    i know your talking to me…..but idk why you are describing yourself to me, is that a new thing you have going on?

  28. Liquid:

    why did ivan leave?

    CAD

    only xbots want everything to go multiplat coz yous just wanna play all our ps3 true exclusives, it doesnt really matter for us doh coz all the 360s games are already multiplat

  29. phranctoast:

    “why did ivan leave”

    To make blorge a slightly better place.

  30. ncaissie:

    I thought he was funny.

  31. Roca.:

    he used to crack me up with all the stuff he used to say…

    I think he left because CarlB already took his place, and he was havent as much fun as before now that HH is gone.

  32. phranctoast:

    I enjoyed his links. He was always on top of things. Other than that…. He kind of made us all look bad.

  33. Liquid:

    he shud come back

  34. SW:

    At least the infighting here has calmed down a teeny bit now.

    People just need to stop provoking ;) CAD now so he calms down a little bit, he’s gone into overdrive ‘if you’re gonna say X then I’m gonna say Y’ mode…

  35. phranctoast:

    Yay. No kev. Thanks mike for permabanning that ass.

  36. Liquid:

    i thought he was only banned for two weeks? is it permanent?

  37. Roca.:

    he got banned for 2 weeks for insulting Mike, then he got banned permanently for voting for MW2 100 times

  38. CarlB:

    I think Ivan left because Roca already took his place, and he wasn’t having as much fun now that HH is gone.

  39. SW:

    I thought HH went on vacation for more more (as Alan P. would say) lady boys ;) . Or did he leave completely?

    Once day, Blorge will become a book. Maybe some kind of Holy Book (scarey thought).

  40. phranctoast:

    Let my people go

  41. Roca.:

    HH ruined his image so bad in this forum that he thought he needed to disappear for a while to rebuild his image..

  42. Liquid:

    yes HH was the biggest jackass i evr encountered on the net. . .why is he so angry? that guy needs to take the poker out of his ass.

    carlb

    man are you a parrot?

  43. phranctoast:

    @liquid.

    What’s wrong? You don’t like the “I know you are but what am I” mentality of Xbots.

  44. ncaissie:

    My father is stronger than your father! LOL

  45. CarlB:

    @liquid,

    What’s wrong? You don’t like the “I know I’m a troll but I’ll call everybody else one” mentality of Pbots?

    My console is better than your console! LOL

    *mirror*

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