Sony realizes PSPGo folly, goes back to the drawing board

February 24, 2010

Sony realizes PSPGo folly, goes back to the drawing board The PSPGo is having a difficult time finding the right audience. One of the biggest criticisms about the device is around the high price point for a device that is missing a UMD tray. It seems like the folks at Sony finally realizes their folly.

The PSPGo is actually a pretty nice device from a form factor perspective. It’s small as an iPhone and just as light. It has a super bright LED and comes with a nice hefty storage. However, there is one small problem – the price is ridiculously high.

It seems like Sony is doing a bit of damage control by going back to the drawing board to see how they can make it successful. According to a recent interview with Industry Gamers [via Destructoid], Sony’s Rob Dyer admitted that the company priced the device a bit too high for something that does less then its cheaper brethren.

It’s understandable that the device might cost more to make, but that’s what subsiding is for. Also, Sony didn’t market the device right as it was targeting a demographic that really didn’t exist.

Dyer stated:

So we’re going back and re-communicating, and I’m sitting here looking at multiple decks on what we’re going to do this year. You’ll see a lot of things coming out from us to better educate and inform the consumer. All I can say is watch this space, because we’ll have answers to those questions.

Let’s hope that Sony has a good game plan to turn things around for the PSPGo this year. The company could forget about the PSPGo and just release the rumored PSP2 with dual analog nubs instead.



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124 Responses to “Sony realizes PSPGo folly, goes back to the drawing board”

  1. CAD:

    “Sony didn’t market the device right as it was targeting a demographic that really didn’t exist.”

    LOL!! Sounds like their 3D approach,

  2. CAD:

    Here is the problem with PSPGo. No UMD! It’s complete bullshit that not compatible with your physical library. PSP 3000 all the way. Personally I can’t wait until the New Windows Mobile 7 Handsets come out so I can play my Xbox 360 games on it. I’m due for a phone soon so this was perfect news when I heard it. Hopefully HTC will be my brand.

  3. Spideydog:

    There is no way I would buy it at the current price point (far from it actually) and it desperately needs a 2nd stick.

    A competitive price and a second stick would be very attractive for me. Apart from that, not a chance Sony.

  4. Mike Ferro:

    PSPGo is like a impulse buy gadget. If Sony prices it comparatively to the DS I think it would sell like hotcakes. With the right pricing it will come into the view of the market segment its trying to aim for- the hip tech savy casual market.

    @CAD,

    I think 3D is probably the future but it will be in evolutionary steps. I think it will evolve over time so that TVs will be 3D without needing to wear glasses.
    But what Sony has been pushing for is probably the first step to getting there.

  5. CAD:

    “I think it will evolve over time so that TVs will be 3D without needing to wear glasses.”

    Hopefully that is where it goes because the glasses aspect is just not cool. Hopefully a glassless 3D HDTV will have a on and off switch.

  6. Torn_Steel:

    I wouldn’t say that 3D is aimed at a nonexistent demographics, I just don’t think they’re the sought of people that go posting on the internet with their point of views. it’s a gimmick, like the wii, but I think done right it’ll sell well, even if I’m won’t be buying it.

  7. FahKinSuPah:

    Well thank you Sony for finally realizing the huge blunder you made… Always nice to shovel shit on people and expect them to buy it huh?

  8. Rhino:

    Bout time they realised what people were saying to them.

    @CAD “the New Windows Mobile 7 Handsets come out so I can play my Xbox 360 games on it.” LMAO you fucking tool…Xbox Live, gamer tags etc yes, this is very likely to be there, but playing games…You’v got your hand on your weener there mate.

  9. phranctoast:

    Hopefully the next gen xbox makes the same mistake. That would be hilarious.

  10. Roca.:

    “Hopefully the next gen xbox makes the same mistake. That would be hilarious.”

    I thought xbots have been saying they dont need BD because they are going all digital…lol

  11. phranctoast:

    They have. Here’s to wishful thinking. I hope the xbot’s are right!

  12. CAD:

    “Hopefully the next gen xbox makes the same mistake. That would be hilarious”

    Come on now Microsoft is to smart for that. Why and when have Microsoft every made the mistake of targeting a demographic that really didn’t exist. Sorry that’s Sony’s job. Sell a Game system and package it with spiderman the bluray movie and not one single game, Bluray, Taking away PS2 compatibility when that’s what everyone wants, Motion is the new thing we don’t need rumble but after they paid the fine for infringment then all of a sudden they need it, Home, PSPgo with no umd and no way to play the games that you already have. Making a universal controller for all systems like Xbox and Wii owners are going to buy it. This is just a few of the many blunders that SOny makes.

  13. ncaissie:

    It is as I have been saying all along! DD sucks balls and no one is going to limit themselves to Sony’s high priced PSN games. Sure some people may want to download but not everything. It’s nice to walk into a store and find a few games in the bargain bin. PSN has no real bargain bin and “current specials” section is not real bargains.

    My nephew got one after I told my brother not to and he regrets it.

  14. ncaissie:

    Mind you there are idiots like HH that says DD is the FUTURE! LOL

  15. ncaissie:

    “Sell a Game system and package it with spiderman the bluray movie and not one single game, Bluray, Taking away PS2 compatibility when that’s what everyone wants, Motion is the new thing we don’t need rumble but after they paid the fine for infringment then all of a sudden they need it, Home, PSPgo with no umd and no way to play the games that you already have. Making a universal controller for all systems like Xbox and Wii owners are going to buy it. This is just a few of the many blunders that SOny makes.”

    LOL and every one of them together don’t come even close to the MS RRoD fuckup.

  16. phranctoast:

    @CAD
    “Come on now Microsoft is to smart for that.”

    Windows Vista.. Need I say more.

    Hell, their current Windows 7 commercials already leaves them looking like asses as they give credit to all their ideas to Joe Shmoe.

    @Ncaissie
    There are some great deals on PSN. You just have to look every now and then. I got three really decent games for $20 (Braid, Shatter, and Critter Crunch)

  17. Roca.:

    ncaissie – “Mind you there are idiots like HH that says DD is the FUTURE! LOL”

    CAD was also on the DD van wagon and look at him now.

  18. CON:

    PSPGO sucked balls. It’s like buying the ps3 slim and not being able to play your games from the ps3 fat.

    Did anyone here actually buy it apart from IVAN?

  19. Roca.:

    @CAD
    “Sell a Game system and package it with spiderman the bluray movie and not one single game”

    better than packaging with dead system as most launch 360 came dead outta the box….also 360 did not come with HDMI port

    “Taking away PS2 compatibility when that’s what everyone wants”

    at least you can still buy PS2 systems and games, MS killed the Regular Xbot a lil after the 360 came out and now XBL (for Xbox) is going to get shut down completely while there are ppl still playing Socom 2 & 3 on PS2.

    “Home”

    Games Room??? LoL

  20. CON:

    “now XBL (for Xbox) is going to get shut down completely while there are ppl still playing Socom 2 & 3″

    Luckily they can play their old games on the 360 lol

  21. phranctoast:

    “Taking away PS2 compatibility when that’s what everyone wants”

    Who says that it was an option that everyone wanted.
    Sony conducted a survey and it turns out that a very small percentage of people care whether or not they had BC. This is the primary reason the new consoles were released without it. I have the option as I have a launch 60 gig, and I could count on one hand the amount of times I played PS2 games on it. It’s a great bullet point, but when you look at it realistically, must people really don’t care about the loss of BC.

  22. phranctoast:

    “Luckily they can play their old games on the 360 lol”

    They better as you can’t even buy the original Xbox anymore. Unlike the PS2. lol

  23. Roca.:

    “Luckily they can play their old games on the 360 lol”

    but not online….XBL for Xbot is getting shut down
    compredende?

  24. twilight:

    There are still quite a few Xbox360 games that will never be backwards compatible. Unless you own an original Xbox, you are out of luck. At least Ps3 people can still play their entire catalog of Ps1 and Ps2 games.

  25. phranctoast:

    @twilight
    Some PS3 owners that is (20-60gig and some 80). All of them can still play PS1 games as thats fully software emulated.

  26. ncaissie:

    She is talking about buying a PS2 to play them I think.

  27. CAD:

    “Hell, their current Windows 7 commercials already leaves them looking like asses as they give credit to all their ideas to Joe Shmoe.”

    Phranctoast

    That is called listing to your customer. I don’t expect Sony Fanboys to know what that is.

  28. CAD:

    “Who says that it was an option that everyone wanted.
    Sony conducted a survey and it turns out that a very small percentage of people care whether or not they had BC. This is the primary reason the new consoles were released without it.”

    Phranctoast

    Please tell me that you don’t believe what you just wrote. Sony’s propaganda has worked. Gotta love Sony Fanboys they believe every lie that Sony tells. So I guess it wasn’t taken out to reduce development cost like they siad when they removed it. If there hasn’t been a louder cry from Sony Fanboys other then PS2 Backward compatibility being removed then I must be losing my mind because that’s all I have heard since they took it out. It’s all over the net but go ahead and believe Sony. LOL

  29. Roca.:

    CAD
    many of us have 60GB PS3s (backwards compatible), and I bet most of us have barely used our PS3 to play PS2 games.

  30. twilight:

    Ncaissie’s correct. I was simply making the point that all of Sony’s catalog of games (Ps1 and Ps2) are still accessible to be played regardless of the Sony system that you play the games on. If you don’t have an original Xbox, you don’t have access to all of Microsoft’s original Xbox titles because the Xbox360 is not completely backwards compatible with all of the original Xbox titles. Even if you don’t have a backwards compatible Ps3 system, you still can get backwards compatibility with Ps2 games by getting a Ps2 system. The system is still being sold unlike the original Xbox system.

  31. Roca.:

    back on the DD topic.

    install for FF13 on x360 looks like this:
    Disc 1 – 5.9Gb
    Disc 2 – 5.8Gb
    Disc 3 – 6.6Gb

    that’s about 1hr of combined waiting time

  32. Liquid:

    lets just finish the console war right now. . . . . the playstation 3 is like a divine object from the heavens with its amazing catologue of games, excellent online service, massive list of exclusives, blu-ray, proper wireless controllers that you dont need batteries for, its a playstation . . need i say more?

    xbox on the other hand is like a five year olds handyman skills with a few bricks and superglue. . . its loud, is a piece of shit with a 33% failure rate, supports a dead format, laggy shit online service, no true exclusives, copies its competitors and needs batteries for the controllers, uses dvd pfft, . . its just pure shit. . . .

    there you have it, Sony has won the console war. . .

  33. CON:

    @ROCA

    I gotta admit that I was a little pissed the other day when I wanted to explore another planet on Mass Effect 2 and was told I had to insert the other disk.

    There’s some free fanboy ammo for ya! ;)

    @twilight

    You said

    “At least Ps3 people can still play their entire catalog of Ps1 and Ps2 games”

    Now you’re saying

    “you still can get backwards compatibility with Ps2 games by getting a Ps2 system”

    Stop back tracking LOL buying another console is not backwards compatibility you tit! HA HA!

    @phranc

    You’re starting to sound as blinded as IVAN these days. There was a time when you used to be quite objective.

    “Who says that it was an option that everyone wanted.
    Sony conducted a survey and it turns out that a very small percentage of people care whether or not they had BC. This is the primary reason the new consoles were released without it.”

    BC was one of the main reasons I bought my 360 after owning a ps2. I had a catalogue of around 20 games. Without being able to play them on the new ps console I had nothing to tie me in with that console. If they had kept it, it would have been a choice of buy the 360 and lose all my games or buy the ps3 and keep them. So essentially I was cut free.

  34. Roca.:

    @CON
    I was not talking about switching disc, I was talking about the 18+ GB install……

  35. CON:

    @Liquid

    I totally agree with your unbiased comparison. Now that I think of it….xbox is shit! What a fool I have been!

  36. Liquid:

    con

    im sorry to hear that, you made the wrong choice and are now regretting it. . . . do yourself a favour and buy a ps3, you will not regret it

  37. Liquid:

    con

    true its totally unbiased

  38. CAD:

    “back on the DD topic.

    install for FF13 on x360 looks like this:
    Disc 1 – 5.9Gb
    Disc 2 – 5.8Gb
    Disc 3 – 6.6Gb

    that’s about 1hr of combined waiting time”

    Hey Roca, Thank goodness it’s on option and not mandatory like some PS3 game.

  39. Roca.:

    @CON
    my PS2 library is over 150 games and I have used BC on my PS3 for just 2 games…GoW2 and FF12 only because they came out around the time or after the PS3 was already out. also my PS2 is in working condition and hooked up to the TV so I could simply play my PS2 games on it.

    I bet ppl will rather be able to buy a PS3 at a lower price than buy a PS3 with BC at the price it was before they got rid of BC……based on the sales numbers, im pretty sure ppl dont care about BC anymore

  40. jojo29:

    @CAD
    Let’s compare blunders

    Vista?
    Rrod?
    E74 error?
    dvd drive scratching disks?
    Denying rrod problems?
    The zune?
    Internet explorer?

    Need I go on? Rofl @ CAD

  41. phranctoast:

    @CAD

    Obviously they removed it to reduce costs, but they weighed the cost vs benefit of keeping it and look where we are now. Most people simply don’t care.

    How many XBOX games do you guys play on your 360?

    @twilight
    my apologies. I misunderstood.

    @CON
    I’m very rarely objective. I’m fair but hardly objective ;)

  42. twilight:

    Liquid,
    Lol. I have to agree. Sony’s console is the best console overall.

  43. Liquid:

    twilight

    i know, all these xfags are in denial. . they just “want” the 360 to be the best. . but in reality its the worst! lmao

  44. Roca.:

    pretty good side-by-side comparation Liquid

  45. RobertCarr316:

    @liquid
    Over expensive?
    Terrible online at the start?
    Installs?
    1 year warranty?
    Terrible exclusives at the start?

    Liquid it’s not hard to make a list about the ps3 as well heck it’s not hard to make a list about any electronic device

  46. Barnabe Jones:

    The PSP Go’s problem is it’s high price point. If you own an older model there is almost no insensitive to upgrade.

    The lack of UMD drive is a stupid complaint though. My Ipod doesn’t play CDs. And my e-reader can’t digitize my old books. It’s just the nature of the device.

    If they can drop the price point lower then the old UMD models, then I think they can make it successful.

  47. Barnabe Jones:

    *”its” & “incentive”

    Damn it.

  48. twilight:

    Con,
    At least all Playstation fans still have options. Xbox360 fans don’t.

  49. jojo29:

    Robert, the difference in the lists though, however biased liquid may be, most of what’s on his list is true and can’t be fixed, whereas let’s look at your list:

    Over expensive? I agree with you here, but its fixed now right?
    Terrible online at the start? Hmmm, subjective as as long as I could play online for free, I don’t give a shit about content, but live, just like psn, has expanded over the years, whcih is good for us, psn gamers that is as we still play online..for free, while you pay

    Installs? Subjective, its a give and take, install for faster load times, I’m cool with that, oh and 360 let’s you install too
    1 year warranty? Rofl, because our consoles don’t break, a warranty can be 20 years, but if I spend all my time actually using the warranty instead of, I don’t know, using the system how much gaming am I actually doing if my system is being shipped all the time from breaking and using the warranty…

    Terrible exclusives at the start? I in the middle here, there some awesome games, so I take it as subjective, heavenly sword, I was a fan of lair, resistance were not too shabby, but now, ps3 has the most and best exclusves. Period

  50. Roca.:

    both console had terrible exclusive at the start…

  51. Liquid:

    jojo

    i am not biased, these are just facts that i post. . . i agree entirely with your post

  52. Liquid:

    robertcarr

    you again? stfu xbot. . . do you get a thrill from stalking me? go play dress up with all your xbox buddies. . . . jackass

  53. ncaissie:

    XB Live was established with the Xbox 1.

  54. CAD:

    Con,
    At least all Playstation fans still have options. Xbox360 fans don’t.

    Exactly what options are you talking about. BC is available on the 360 for many games and if I want I can just pull out my Xbox. Really just think about what you are saying. Anybody with old Xbox games can just play it on their Xbox that they already own. For those who joined Xbox with the 360 why should they care about BC it’s not like they got a stockpile of xbox game so why should they care.

  55. CAD:

    Sorry that comment is for Twilight

  56. Roca.:

    XBL for Xbox is getting shut down…which means no more online play for any regular xbox game, that includes Halo 1 and 2.

    online on the PS2 is free are ppl are still playing online games like FF11 and Socom on it for free.

  57. ncaissie:

    I find the DVD drives very unstable in Xbox one. I have tossed quite a few. If you have incompatible games and your xbox one doesn’t work you can’t get a new xbox one. I had to buy referb ones. I have two with crappy drives and to I just got and are referbs.
    “Really just think about what you are saying”
    So think about what your saying CAD.

  58. phranctoast:

    @CAD

    you didn’t answer my question.

    How many xbox games do you guys play on your 360′s?

  59. CON:

    @Twilight

    The 360 has BC and it is the ps3 that does not lol you’re talking nonsense. Stop digging a hole.

  60. Spideydog:

    CAD said: “That is called listing to your customer. I don’t expect Sony Fanboys to know what that is.”

    MS didn’t have choice but to listen, nobody was buying vista …. lol

    I wouldn’t get too cocky m8, as already pointed out by others, MS has a rather expansive list of cock ups …. do you really want to play that card ??

  61. Spideydog:

    In fairness Phranc, I use a good handful of xbox orig games on my 360.

  62. RobertCarr316:

    @liquid
    LOL ya I’m a xbot your right even though I think the ps3 is a much better console but I’m an xbot good work there also I was on this website before you so how am I stalking you? :D

    @jojo
    Ya I completly agree with you but the point I was making is that every company makes mistakes it happens and most of liquids list is out dated except for the zune part cause the zune sucks total balls

  63. Liquid:

    robert
    well ok if you prefer ps3 den all is good

  64. me_:

    Were they really optional installs in FFXIII Roca?

    Strange you didn’t say that in your comment, it must have been in the article you grabbed it from…….

  65. Liquid:

    if you guys wanna see something disgusting type in blue waffle. . .

  66. stopstopp:

    I agree with spideydog if MS had a choice we would still only have vista, probably even XP only.

  67. Rhino:

    @CAD “Anybody with old Xbox games can just play it on their Xbox that they already own.” and the exact same thing goes for BC on the PS3 you fucking nob. The majority of PS3 owners would still have their PS2′s. I still have my original thick PS2 which hasn’t skipped a beat, so if there are any PS2 game I wanna play I put them in that.

    It’s kinda funny how your own argument justified Sony’s survey.

    What a fucking moron.

  68. Roca.:

    “It’s kinda funny how your own argument justified Sony’s survey.
    What a fucking moron.”

    LMAOO

  69. CarlB:

    RC316,

    “LOL ya I’m a xbot your right”

    Trust me, it doesn’t matter if you own and enjoy a PS3, if you have stated it here before, praised games for it before, or even if you have stated a PS3 title will win GotY again this year, if you say ANYTHING negative about PS3, even if it is true, you will get labeled an XBot here, it is the PBot way.

    “LMAOO”

  70. MisterX:

    Here’s the reason why Sony is greedy bastard. Xbox just want to move on by out with old and in with the new.

    http://gamer.blorge.com/2009/01/24/why-the-ps3-cant-play-ps2-games/

  71. me_:

    @ CarlB it’s obvious some people around here are a little bit insecure about their purchases. It’s not enough that they like their PS3s they have do bash all other competitors.

  72. CarlB:

    @m,

    true, it must make them feel “superior” when they keep using that word to describe their console and then describing all others as “inferior” (that’s actually when they are being polite, they usually just say “piece of shit” or something equally or even more ignorant), as if gameplay was equal to how many gigs are in a file size or somehow raised with a slightly higher resolution.

  73. CarlB:

    just the latest example of I have found of their… how shall we say it politely… ah yes, unmatched logic and intelligence:

    “because since the PS3 is a more powerfull system, where there is a inferior game on it reveiewers are less forgiven….on the other hand an inferior game on the 360 vs a game taking advantage of the PS3 hardware is expected to be inferior.”

  74. FahKinSuPah:

    @Roca

    “back on the DD topic.

    install for FF13 on x360 looks like this:
    Disc 1 – 5.9Gb
    Disc 2 – 5.8Gb
    Disc 3 – 6.6Gb

    This is an interesting find. It really has me wondering though.

    A DVD9 can hold 8.5Gb. Total space required for all 3 discs would come to 18.3Gb. 2 DVD9′s would be 17GB.

    So that’s 1.3Gb more than what would fit on 2 DVD9 discs.

    When you think about share assets like game engine, common graphics (npc characters, towns and other stuff that appear on all 3 discs), and party members.. all these things that have to be put on all 3 discs… How much space do they all take up?

    When you think about it that way it seems entirely possible that it could have been fit on 2 DVD9′s instead of 3

  75. Roca.:

    @Fahkin
    in reality DVD9 can hold up to 7GB of gaming data
    2GB of space are reserved for copy protection scheme.

    and of course…you are not installing the disc into your HDD

  76. Liquid:

    all you xbots are just pathetic. . . all of you are in denial and jealous of our superior system. . . Carlb are you there leader now that happyhockum is gone?

  77. ncaissie:

    “A DVD9 can hold 8.5Gb. Total space required for all 3 discs would come to 18.3Gb. 2 DVD9’s would be 17GB.”

    Also if it is 18.3GB with duplicate data how much did they compress the video in comparison to the 35GB on the BR.

    It sucks to be an Xbot I guess. But it wont bother them (carlb) because they are use to second rate (<- being generous) crap.

  78. Roca.:

    lol @ ncaissie
    I love when you get technical and leave them clueless of what you are talking about

    …..remember someone was trying to argue 35 > 9 (or 7) just for the sake of being a xbot

  79. FahKinSuPah:

    @Roca

    “2GB of space are reserved for copy protection scheme.”

    2Gb is roughly 1/4 of the total space on the disc. Thats the most ridiculas thing i have heard all day.

    Have anything to back up that ridiculas claim?

  80. Roca.:

    @FahKin

    “Games are stored on standard dual-layer DVD-ROMs with 7 GB of usable space available for game content”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_hardware#DVD_storage

  81. Roca.:

    I know it sounds rediculous since the protection scheme was cracked years ago…..but it’s ture

  82. ncaissie:

    I don’t think Fahkin was thinking about the Games security.
    I was in the same boat but it makes sense.

  83. Roca.:

    what do you think I was originally talking about ncaissie?

  84. ncaissie:

    I was thinking about DVD security to prevent copying.

  85. Roca.:

    I believed that’s what the 2GB are for (or 1.5GB since DVD9 actual size is 8.5GB)

  86. ncaissie:

    but each of the dvds has that part also. this would shorten it by 1.5

  87. Roca.:

    yeah 1.5GB per dics are reserved for something else other than gaming data.

    you will never see a single disc 360 game with a size larger than 7GB, the largest I have seen is Gears 2 with 6.8GB

  88. CAD:

    “XBL for Xbox is getting shut down…which means no more online play for any regular xbox game, that includes Halo 1 and 2.

    online on the PS2 is free are ppl are still playing online games like FF11 and Socom on it for free.”

    Roca,

    Who cares. Shut it down. Really have you heard one person complain about it other then PS3 Fanboys. I have not touched my Xbox and if I do which I probably won’t there is always a campaign. Who cares about Halo 2 Multiplayer when you have Halo 3. Besides anyone serious enough can have a system link party if they want multiplayer.

  89. Roca.:

    @CAD
    thanks for contradicting your original argument about BC.

  90. CAD:

    @CAD

    you didn’t answer my question.

    How many xbox games do you guys play on your 360’s?

    Phranctoast

    I actually play none at the current moment but I have a Few classics that I kept.

  91. CAD:

    I actually gave my Xobx to my cusins a while back. I still have my Nintendo, Atari, and Sega Genesis and my old Tandy Computer. Bet you guys don’t remember playing Video Games form a cassett.

  92. Roca.:

    I thought you said the xbox was your first console

  93. ncaissie:

    “Bet you guys don’t remember playing Video Games form a cassett.”

    Actually I remember making them in the Vic 20.
    I’m probably one of the oldest here at 36.

  94. ncaissie:

    It took Hours to get a dot to bounce around on the screen.

  95. phranctoast:

    My earliest game playing was on an Atari 2600 and a Commodore 64.

    Then there was a big gap as my parents were cheap. I got a NES as a prize for selling Newspaper subscriptions, followed by a Genesis then Playstation, N64, PS2 and PS3.

    Never owned SNES, Saturn, Dreamcast or Gamecube.

  96. Roca.:

    I started with a Atari 2600, then a NES and a old gameboy (brick), then Genesis and SNES followed by Gamegear (Sega portable system), PS1,Dreamcast, N64, GC, PS2, DS lite, PSP, PS3

  97. CAD:

    @CAD
    thanks for contradicting your original argument about BC.

    Contradicting!!! Are you kidding me. I laughed my ass off yesterday watching you guys talk pure shit. I strung you guys along so good yesterday. I was supose to come back to throw it in your face but better late then never.

    Here it is that you and the PS3 Fanboys are now saying that BC is not a concern because you can always play PS2 games on your PS2 and that you hardly ever go back. LOL

    That was my argument to you guys when all of you were bitching about PS3 not having PS2 BC. I ask why you guys even cared and mentioned that since the 360 I have not looked back and you never hear a 360 owner complain about these things. I guess it would matter back then when the PS3 hardly had any games but now that there is an abundance all of a sudden you guys don’t care about PS2 BC. Such Hypocrits you guys are. LOL

    Now you want make it seem a though Shuting down Origianl Xbox Live service is a big deal. We have all moved on to a 360 so who cares. The original Xbox is a Modders Console and if you want it there are plenty in the wild.

    I just love it when you guys contridict yourselves!!LMAOL It just shows that none of you have a foundation and can change like wind.

  98. ncaissie:

    I had a 2600 also when I was younger. But CAD was talking cassette.

  99. ncaissie:

    I still want BC but not so much because I got GOW 1-2 in HD. There are plenty of PS2 games I would buy If I could play them without buying a PS2.

  100. CAD:

    “Bet you guys don’t remember playing Video Games form a cassett.”

    Actually I remember making them in the Vic 20.
    I’m probably one of the oldest here at 36.

    It took Hours to get a dot to bounce around on the screen.

    What you just siad makes no sense to me but I always wondered how a cassett could play a Vido Game. I just kow it worked.

  101. ncaissie:

    The cassette held the code like a floppy disc.
    That is what got my interested in making software for the PC.You write the code, save it to tape and run it. If you screw up you start over.

  102. Roca.:

    CAD you said:
    “Taking away PS2 compatibility when that’s what everyone wants”

    nobody wanted it that bad as the survey proved it. ppl buy PS3 to play PS3 games and if they want to play PS2 games they can still go buy a PS2 for about the same price you need to pay MS to play online.

  103. Barnabe Jones:

    They had PS2 compatibility from the start. The problem is that it cost extra money. Consumers voted overwhelmingly that PS2 bc was not worth it. So this argument is kind of null and void.

    I still have my PS2. I think it will go down in history as the best console ever made. Mainly because it had a monopoly on 3rd party exclusives. We’ll probably never see that again. Plus the 1st party titles were freaking amazing.

    But I guess 2 Halo games were just as good, right? lol marketing.

  104. CAD:

    The cassette held the code like a floppy disc.
    That is what got my interested in making software for the PC.You write the code, save it to tape and run it. If you screw up you start over.

    Intresting I only wish I could remember what game it was.

  105. Rhino:

    @CAD “I strung you guys along so good yesterday.” Face it fuckwad….you’re own argument justified Sony’s survey, so what better way to try and save face by saying that.

    “I just love it when you guys contridict yourselves!!LMAOL It just shows that none of you have a foundation and can change like wind.”

    Really…and you are such a beacon of sanity and reason. You’re right up there with Ivan when it comes to changing your story to suit yourself. This bullshit about BC is a classic example of it. Ohh by the way It’s contrAdict asswipe.

    You truly area fucking moron, so much so that I’m surprised you haven’t qualified for the Darwin Awards yet.

  106. Rhino:

    I remember using cassettes on the Commodore 64…the old black and green screens…ahhh those were the days lol.

  107. SW:

    Except when the tape stopped. And you knew the loading was buggered, but you flipped the tape incase it was two sided, but in your heart, you knew you were starting again.

    I prefered the Amiga 5/600 tbh.

  108. stopstopp:

    Seeing CAD and Carlb going crazy makes me want to have ivan back. At least he kept them from flaming ps3 as a job.

  109. stopstopp:

    Cut out carlb from that sentence.

  110. jojo29:

    @ CAD
    “I ask why you guys even cared and mentioned that since the 360 I have not looked back and you never hear a 360 owner complain about these things”

    Maybe because there aren’t any games on the xbox worth playing…gee i don’t know, in that generation xbox got stomped to the ground…rofl

  111. harry sachz:

    Oh please! Stomped to the ground this gen? Surely you weren’t keeping a straight face when typing that. Both systems are doing rather well for themselves.

    And no games on Xbox worth playing? Are you serious? I’m not going to throw a list out, as everyone knows that there are great games on both systems. Saying that there are no games worth playing is asinine.

  112. jojo29:

    Harry

    if you actually read what i posted, i was talking about LAST gen, yes there were some worthy titles, but face it, PS2 owned, i was talking about THAT gen, LAST gen, i.e the PAST…

  113. harry sachz:

    Oh yeah, apologies. But still, that was not entirely true.

  114. phranctoast:

    “You truly area fucking moron, so much so that I’m surprised you haven’t qualified for the Darwin Awards yet.”

    HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

  115. CarlB:

    SS,

    Thanks, but CAD isn’t nearly as bad as Ivan was, or even as bad as roca is.

    Harry, agreed, any statement like that deserves to be shot down. Even XBox had it’s fair share of great games, especially considering the relatively short time it lasted. To his credit though, he did come back with the “worthy titles” statement to make up for it.

  116. jojo29:

    @carlb, if I “made up for it” why even post about it….

    Anyways, there is ONE xbox game I ALMOST bought an xbox for, I was this close —-><—– and I'm very saddend and surprised we have not seen or heard from it since part 2, which was my fav.

    Eager to find out which title? Coming from me, it will surprise all of you: Mech Assault 2. Man, to me, that games multiplayer was awesome, yeah some of the mech designs were stupid, but overall the game was fun…I was a fucking expert badss with my dropship,, a mech game and I'm having a blast piloting the dropship…crazy huh…man, I just remember being online for that free month my bro had, and having people be like, damn kabroncito, I olove when you my dropship lol

    That game to me was badass…I actually hope for you 360 guys, that pay for live, actually get to it this gen

  117. me_:

    “They had PS2 compatibility from the start. The problem is that it cost extra money. Consumers voted overwhelmingly that PS2 bc was not worth it. So this argument is kind of null and void”

    Shame they didn’t do the same with Blu-ray :P

  118. jojo29:

    @me
    Then we would not be having games such as…well every single sony first party game takes advantage of the br drive..lil game called uncharted..

    Also, then developers such as capcom/ea/rockstar would have to scale their games bac@k even further, as is the case increasingly these days with the xbox..

  119. Spideydog:

    “Shame they didn’t do the same with Blu-ray”

    Seems to be selling quite well now ….. BD and all ;)

  120. CarlB:

    “@carlb, if I “made up for it” why even post about it…”

    Because I was agreeing with harry, you made the ridiculous statement in the first place, and it was good that harry shut your troll statement down.

  121. jojo29:

    It was not a troll statement, the ps2 wiped its ass with the xbox last gen.PERIOD.

  122. CarlB:

    “there aren’t any games on the xbox worth playing” was a troll statement… sorry.

  123. Roca.:

    “there aren’t any games on the xbox worth playing” was actually a fact and a well description of the xbox library as of late.

  124. Roca.:

    “Shame they didn’t do the same with Blu-ray”

    why would they do that, so we can’t watch HD bluray movies…or maybe so PS3 users can get FF13 with compressed audio and visuals, 18GB+ of install and 3 disc?

    or maybe because MGS4 would not be posible to make?

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