Microsoft: No Blu-ray on Xbox 360

March 9, 2010

Most gamers, game developers, and game publishers must surely realize the Xbox 360 needs Blu-ray, whether they admit it or not. Unfortunately, Microsoft doesn’t agree, so the chances of the high-capacity HD disc format ever making it on to the Xbox are remote.

Games are no longer the small, bedroom-made efforts they once were. They’re now big-budget blockbusters with state-of-the-art visuals, stunning soundtracks, and hugely complex storylines. And all of that uses data, something which Blu-ray has so much more capacity for than DVD-9 does. Playstation 3 uses Blu-ray, Xbox 360 uses DVD-9. Which is clearly a problem.

Not that Microsoft would admit as much, with director of Xbox and Entertainment Stephen McGill telling CVG:

We have no plans to adopt [a] Blu-Ray drive for the Xbox 360. In fact, the future of home entertainment started last autumn when Xbox 360 became the first and only console to offer instant-on 1080p streaming HD movies.

Oh dear, that’s not good. While I agree that digital downloads and streaming are the future for all kinds of media, including games, that’s not going to be true for a few more years at least. When the next generation of consoles will undoubtedly be with us. So there is no excuse for Microsoft not to now adopt Blu-ray for the Xbox 360. Except, of course, pride.



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128 Responses to “Microsoft: No Blu-ray on Xbox 360”

  1. me_:

    And the greatest visuals of all are on PC, stored on you guessed it …..DVD.

  2. twilight:

    The limitations of Xbox360′s disc format is starting to show. The extra space that blu ray discs provides for gaming is great. The format that Sony adopted is starting to pay off.

  3. Kevo/Sir_Chubs_Alot08:

    ms is full of shit…they will see the picture when it smacks them in the face

  4. Kevo/Sir_Chubs_Alot08:

    ms just doesnt want to sell 360 with a blu ray drive for the premium like sony does. thats the colors of ms

  5. gunstar:

    Like they say it in other sites,

    “Microsoft’s Xbox 360 is like a cornered and foaming-in-the-mouth crazy animal just about to die!”

  6. Spideydog:

    “And the greatest visuals of all are on PC, stored on you guessed it …..DVD.”

    Bullshit….. How bout the truth me_ ….. stored on multiple dvd’s and then mandatory install on much larger hard drives, thats how PC does it.

    When the 360 comes with a 500gig HD and mandatory installs, then it doesn’t need BD :)

  7. gunstar:

    … and the people behind the 360 are even more crazier and crazier with their statements.

    Here’s more:

    “Microsoft’s director of global platform marketing for Xbox Albert Penello gave his two-cents on the possibility of blu-ray capabilities on the Xbox 360.

    His (and seemingly Microsoft’s) view on the subject is simple: “Go spend $150 on one,” he told Game Guy Barry White.

    It seems that rather than listening to the growing demand of gamers who want to have a blu-ray capable gaming machine that isn’t Sony’s PlayStation 3, Microsoft would rather not deal with the issue.”

    These people needs to be taught how to admit it when they are wrong and accept defeat like men.

  8. gunstar:

    With statements like these M$ would likely get top spot on BDA’s blacklisted companies to be banned forever.

  9. ncaissie:

    ‘And the greatest visuals of all are on PC, stored on you guessed it …..DVD.”
    WRONG!! LOL Stored on HDD. Big difference bud. Go get a PC game and you will find out. You only put the disc in for the copy protection. Not every 360 has an HDD.

  10. ncaissie:

    “ms is full of shit…they will see the picture when it smacks them in the face”
    It already has. They are trying to save face.

  11. me_:

    “Bullshit….. How bout the truth me_ ….. stored on multiple dvd’s and then mandatory install on much larger hard drives, thats how PC does it.

    When the 360 comes with a 500gig HD and mandatory installs, then it doesn’t need BD :) ”

    Hmm… I agree. A 500 GB HDD would be much less expensive, faster and larger capacity than a Blu-Ray reader. It also doesn’t leave millions of current owners out in the cold.

    Why the hell would you but a Blu-Ray player in a console…. unless you had a vested interest in Blu-Ray that is.

  12. Saber_HAHAha:

    1080p streaming may be “the future of home entertainment”, but Blu-Ray is the “right now” of home entertainment, and Microsoft doesn’t have it. They package with the “yesterday” of home entertainment.

    You need Blu-Ray to reach this gen’s full potential. I say Microsoft should include a Blu-Ray drive in their Natal SKU (and for games, not just for movies!”. It should be able to play older Xbox 360 games. They won’t even need to raise the price of the 360 when they add it. Besides, Sony is selling it for $300, why wouldn’t they?

    I feel more pity for developers forced to cut/compress content to fit DVD, than for developers struggling with the PS3′s Cell.

  13. Roca.:

    @me_

    your first comment was well handled by Spidey. you PC comment was a bad example if you into account that PC can be upgraded and some of the PC install goes well beyond 10GBs

    you second comment:
    “A 500 GB HDD would be much less expensive, faster and larger capacity than a Blu-Ray reader.”

    it won make a different because you still need 5-6 DVDs for 30GB+ games….so BD still wins

  14. stopstopp:

    Dave

    A few years down the road? I think more like 20-50 years.

  15. Ivan_PSP:

    Wow are people retarded or what. I’m with Microsoft on this one. How that fuck can they add Blu-ray support to Xbox 360 for games unless they give 38 million FREE.

  16. me_:

    “PC install goes well beyond 10GBs”

    Doesn’t sound like much when you consider the superior visuals they put out in comparison to a 50 GB Blu-Ray.

  17. Roca.:

    10GB sounds just a bit much for 360 developer…heck even 18GB has to be compressed to shit and spread out into 3 DVDs……on the other hand PS3 devs can put out 35GB+ games hassle free all in one disc

  18. me_:

    Really, if it was such a great thing and made such a difference they’d use it for PCs.

  19. Roca.:

    they will use what? bluray?
    if it is bluray you are talking about then you must not know what your talking about…..why woould they use BD for PC when the percentage of PC with a BD drive are close 1%

    the point is…MS is trying to evade the BD talk by saying the 360 has “1080p streaming” but they are obviously not saying what BD does for gaming!

    L.A Noire developers are already complaining about the 360 limitations. Capcom had to cut content out of Lost Planet 2 due to the 360 limitations…1.5GB from the DVD9 are reserved for a protection scheme that was cracked years ago so developers are left with 6.8.

    so like I said, the 360 is not a PC and 10GB is far beyond their limitation are will probably required extra work or more dics (install is out of the question since not all 360 comes with HDD)

  20. me_:

    “BD for PC when the percentage of PC with a BD drive are close 1%”

    Doesn’t really matter. Only 1% of PCs can run Crysis but that didn’t stop them.

    PCs moved from CD to DVD and I’m sure one day it will be BD. It’s not a critical factor in performance and that’s why M$ shouldn’t bother using it.

  21. Ivan_PSP:

    me_:
    Microsoft needs Blu-ray Disc support at least for movies since the quality from the disc is better then the streaming 1080p they offer. Also i know is impossible for them to use for games. Microsoft might start losing support soon for not supporting the Blu-ray Disc Association. Why include Blu-ray Disc games for PC you still have to install them there’s really no point. Also the requirement for Crysis are very low i run that game on my PC my old one so smooth.

  22. me_:

    Well maybe I should have said when Crysis was released only 1 % of PCs could run it.

    Blu-Ray was a cool feature in a console when the PS3 was released but it’s not so much of a big deal now. I just picked up a Sony Blu-Ray player for half of what a PS3 costs, I think most people will do the same now.

  23. Torn_Steel:

    “And the greatest visuals of all are on PC, stored on you guessed it …..DVD.”

    True, but PC doesn’t have the stupid copy protection the 360 has, we do however have other kinds of shit (Ubisoft!). Plus there’s the install.

  24. Ivan_PSP:

    me_:
    Blu-ray Disc is a huge deal now and the PS3 is not just for movie lovers. PS3 is the best investment anyone can make. Half the price and it can only do movies LMFAO you rip. Most people just buy the PS3 console is a way better deal.

    Oh please Crysis doesn’t look better then the PS3 exclusives. Crysis is mainly talk and no is a lie it has a low PC requirement it runs smoothly on almost any decent PC. But

    Torn_Steel:
    It doesn’t have the same Xbox 360 protection duh but is still uses one like every disc does, plus another one from the company that is using the disc 2 protection always.

  25. CON:

    “We have no plans to adopt [a] Blu-Ray drive for the Xbox 360. In fact, the future of home entertainment started last autumn when Xbox 360 became the first and only console to offer instant-on 1080p streaming HD movies.”

    Sounds like this comment was directed more about blu ray vs 1080p steaming movies rather than games.

  26. CON:

    “Oh please Crysis doesn’t look better then the PS3 exclusives.”

    Depends what your graphics card is.

  27. Ivan_PSP:

    I can run Crysis on everything HIGH and stills just looks good just not as good as PS3 graphics.

  28. Ghost:

    It’s only a matter of time before M$ switches to Blu-Ray or at least offers it as an add on…

  29. RomasantaMC:

    @Ivan
    your lies do get annoying.

  30. Ivan_PSP:

    Ghost:
    Maybe for movies since is too late for games the Xbox 360 console is already release without Blu-ray Disc drive.

    RomasantaMC:
    Dude what are talking about i don’t lie.

  31. CON:

    @ROMA

    IVSPAM also claims he bought a Sony Vaio with 500gb SSD as standard fitment back in June 09……even though it didn’t exist at the time.

    @IVSPAM

    Why you gotta bullshit so much? LOL

  32. phranctoast:

    Ok. Lets see.

    @_me
    PC games are compressed and unpacked during their installation. Games typically are larger than the disc size as a result.

    PC games look better because of hardware. PC hardware is already years ahead of console hardware. Therefore you can have the same game on a console and PC and the PC’s resolution is so much higher than it’s console counterpart. Texture resolution can be the same or similar on brd and DVD due to texture compression tricks, but limited to hardware restrictions.

  33. Roca.:

    me_ is a total idiot by trying to defend the 360 doesnt need bluray when it is clear that DVD9 is starting to hurt some games and it is hold the 360 back! and the fact that not all 360 come with HDD doesnt help the cause either!

  34. phranctoast:

    @Ivan
    Crysis looks better than all console games still.

    @me_
    “I just picked up a Sony Blu-Ray player for half of what a PS3 costs, I think most people will do the same now.”

    Is there any reason why you went with that instead of a PS3? Is the PS3 not worth the $150 difference in your eyes?

    @Story
    I can’t view the original CVG link at work, but it appears they are speaking more for movies than games with that quote. It would be stupid of MS to put a BRD player in the 360 at this date and time in the consoles lifetime. An Add on however shouldn’t be out of the question.
    Just watch though. MS will have BR in their next console, and if they don’t, it will be a hybrid of blu ray that doesn’t play the movies but based on the same tech (to avoid Sony royalty fees, and maintain their Download scheme)

  35. Roca.:

    “IVSPAM also claims he bought a Sony Vaio with 500gb SSD as standard fitment back in June 09……even though it didn’t exist at the time”

    how’s is that different from you claim that Forza 2 sold more copies than ALL PS3 exclusive? or you saying the PS3 doesnt have a internal upscaler? I can keep going but I will be easy on you and I will leave it there ;)

  36. Ivan_PSP:

    phranctoast:
    Crysis is not and will never be as great as people claim it is.

  37. ncaissie:

    “@me_
    “I just picked up a Sony Blu-Ray player for half of what a PS3 costs, I think most people will do the same now.”

    Is there any reason why you went with that instead of a PS3? Is the PS3 not worth the $150 difference in your eyes?”

    LOL Some People are pretty stupid. Or maybe doesn’t have enough money after replacing his POS 360.

  38. ncaissie:

    “Crysis is not and will never be as great as people claim it is.”
    In graphics it is Ivan. I can’t say for game play because nothing beats God Of War for game play.

  39. phranctoast:

    I agree with ncaissie here. Crysis is an OK shooter, but graphics wise it blows all others out of the water.

  40. CON:

    @ROCA

    Sorry??? You’re actually defending IVSPAMS bullshit???

    I don’t claim to own things that don’t exist. What exactly did I lie about? I used VGchartz as a ref to compare forza against gt5p to back up an argument. How is that lying you if I used a source you tit? lol

    Forza 2 sales have not been updated since june 09 on the site and gt5p was similar so that’s the last comparason between the two.

  41. phranctoast:

    @ncaissie
    “LOL Some People are pretty stupid. Or maybe doesn’t have enough money after replacing his POS 360.”

    What I’m trying to establish is worth. I’d buy a 360 at $150 more than likely. What keeps me away is, a majority of it’s exclusives are also on PC. For me it wouldn’t be worth it, or it might if I had to spend more than $150 on a video card. As it is now, none of the 360 exclusives (ME2 being the latest) have recommended specs over my current PC’s specs.

  42. CON:

    IVSPAM

    Give it up with your bullshit comments. Crysis is still better than current gen consoles. Even your fellow ps3 fanboys disagree with you.

  43. CON:

    @Phranc

    You gonna buy ME2 for PC?

  44. phranctoast:

    @CON

    I was really tempted when in was 29.99 the other day on Amazon, but truth be told, I really don’t have all that time. I’m barely halfway through Assassins Creed 2 with GOW3 out next week. I still want Darksiders and Bayonetta, and Heavy Rain….and maybe even FF13.

    I’ll get it eventually.

  45. Barnabe Jones:

    The worst thing about this all is that it holds back the development of multiplat HD gaming for us all.

    Having to squeeze games into a space that is less than PS2 and Wii is ridiculous. That doesn’t sound very next gen at all.

    Just imagine the quality of games we could all be enjoying right now if BD was the standard format. I guarantee that average size of games wouldn’t be 4-10 hours like it is now.

    “became the first and only console to offer instant-on 1080p streaming HD movies.”

    -WTF is this guy talking about? Way to avoid the question at hand, mouth piece.

  46. Roca.:

    CON “Crysis is still better than current gen consoles”

    Crysis sucks….it just a awesome looking “Haze” and a mediocre shooter!…too bad they cannot combined awesome graphics with awesome gameplay and story like Uncharted 2, GoW3, KZ2, Heavy Rain, R+C and more

  47. ncaissie:

    “What I’m trying to establish is worth. I’d buy a 360 at $150 more than likely. What keeps me away is, a majority of it’s exclusives are also on PC. For me it wouldn’t be worth it, or it might if I had to spend more than $150 on a video card. As it is now, none of the 360 exclusives (ME2 being the latest) have recommended specs over my current PC’s specs.”

    I don’t think I would even spend $150 on a 360 even with a 120gig HDD. But yes, to spend $150 on a BR player when you can get a BR play and a great consol with free online play for the extra $150 is pretty stupid. I have a gaming rig and would rather spend $150-$300 updating the video card then to buy a 360. Especially when I can use a 360 controller to play those 360 exclusives. My 7i chip with 9Gigs of Ram will last longer then the 360 and even the 720.

  48. Liquid:

    wheres that smell of curry coming from???? oh wait toshi is here!!

  49. Roca.:

    @CON
    “What exactly did I lie about?”

    you said Forza 2 sold more than all PS3 exclusive. here is the quote from you:
    CON:
    February 19th, 2010
    “Forza 2 also sold more than any PS3 title”

    http://gamer.blorge.com/2010/02/19/alan-wake-could-be-the-best-looking-xbox-360-game-ever/

  50. CON:

    ROCA

    Did you read a single word of my last comment to you? LOL You’ve just repeated what I’ve said….minus the explaination! Ha ha!

    Sticking up for IVSPAMs pathetic lies makes you as bad as him, if not worse.

  51. phranctoast:

    I’ll chalk that up to a mistake on his part Roca.

    The thing that cracked me up is, even he knew his mistake and backed down but CAD and Carlb…Especially Carlb, found the need to make the topic last two weeks while effectively losing the argument at hand in disgrace :) .

  52. CAD:

    Sorry Dave but Bluray is the past. I have a Bluray player and I have one movie and no intentions of buying physical media that will end up on my shelf and become a storage problem. Who wants to spend more money for the same movie just to watch it and put it back in the box and on your shelf. I find myself using my On Demand service from Rogers which is also offerd in HD/SD and the XBOX 360 1080P streaming and my PVR/DVR. On Demand is the reason I’m not going to satellite service and it’s there when I want it and it’s more convienient and it looks great and offers Dolby Digital. The 1080P Streaming works great on the 360 and guess what, Sony is once again following Microsfots lead and is going to offer HD Movies for Purchase and Download on PSN. Bluray my friend cannot compete with that and Blockbuster has not seem me for well over a year now. As for games, 80% of the games released don’t need hugh capaity for disk storage and if more focused on Online and Multiplayer aspect which extend the games life far greater then what Final Fantasy can do once your finished with the game and becomes another trade in. Extra disk are not deal breakers so I have no idea why developers would complain. Download is the future and disk are going out the door.

  53. Roca.:

    Ivan is known for his funny comments, but you, CAD and Kev always said someshit without having anything to back it up!

  54. Roca.:

    @CAD
    this a gaming forum so we are taking about BD as a gaming format…why are you still stuck on movies???

    many gaming developer are already having a hard time trying to fit all thier content on DVDs

  55. jojo29:

    Ok my 2cents:

    Nothing on consoles looks better than crysis..the 3 games that come close are killzone, uncharted, and gow3…oh lookey all ps3 exclusives…I know this because I have crysis and I can run it at the highest settings never dipping below 60fps..ok maybe a dip here or there..

    Continuing, the reason the pc can get away with using dvds is because, the dvd only holds zipped/compressed files, that, when “installed” on your pcs hard drive, is only needed for essential information…

    If, for example they wanted to run the 10plus game, say like world of warcraft, off a disc, guess what? They’d need a BD…and wow came out 5 years ago…

    Face it, sony made a good move with the bd, as is evidenced and proved by the developers such as rockstar, square, capcom among others stating having to cut back their games because of the 360s hardware limitations and faulty hardware…ok that last one was from my list lol

  56. Liquid:

    eh CAD you have been able to rent and buy movies off psn the last year and a half

  57. twilight:

    “I picked up a Sony blu ray player for half of what the Ps3 costs.” Sony’s latest blu ray player in this price range is one of the most stripped down blu ray players on the market. You get what you pay for. The Ps3 is one of the best blu ray players on the market. Its features and overall performance are top notch. There is a reason why the Ps3 is still one of the top blu ray players years after it was released.
    The limited space on Microsoft’s disc is starting to effect games. Gaming content is getting bigger all of the time.

  58. CAD:

    Like I siad before if your games are being cut back then blame Sony because had there been no market confusion and there was a clear cut choice when the 360 launched then maybe Microsoft would have adopted Bluray but at the time DVD was a clear choice. Once again PS3 get screwed by it’s own actions and Sony’s greed.

  59. Roca.:

    “if your games are being cut back then blame Sony”

    while at it, lets also blame Sony for the 360 shitty hardware, 360 not having wifi, original 360 not having HDMI port and controller without builtin battery……oh I almost forgot, Lets ALSO blame Sony for MS charging $50/yr for online play!

  60. twilight:

    Roca,
    Lol.

  61. jojo29:

    Roca, don’t fall for CADs bullshit, he’s just saying stuff on purpose, right CAD?

    He only posts anti ps3 jargon, just to get a reaction, I know for a FACT what he truly thinks…just switch up what he says to the opposite.

    So when CAD says he bought a 150 dollar br player, he really means he loves sony. When he says he only has one movie and wants no physical media, he is really saying he has quite a collection of br movies and is loving it.

    This is FACT, CAD cannot argue this logic. He truly loves the ps3, really he messaged me on psn and told me he loves the ps3 and sold the 360 about a year ago

  62. phranctoast:

    ouch.. Roca is on Fire!

  63. ncaissie:

    “Like I siad before if your games are being cut back then blame Sony because had there been no market confusion and there was a clear cut choice when the 360 launched then maybe Microsoft would have adopted Bluray but at the time DVD was a clear choice. Once again PS3 get screwed by it’s own actions and Sony’s greed.”
    LMAO You are a true fuckin idiot.

  64. phranctoast:

    @CAD
    If MS had any faith in its partners it would have put HDDVD in the 360.

    Oh, heres some uplifting Blu ray news for you
    http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=4245

  65. twilight:

    It seems that the majority of people still prefer owning traditional physical discs over digital downloads.

  66. Roca.:

    Sony sign a deal with all six major movie studios to offer their library on exlusively on PSN

    Studios bring most of their movies in HD to PSN:
    -20th Century
    -Fox
    -Walt Disney
    -Paramount
    -Warner Bros
    -Sony Pictures Entertainment (of course)

  67. ncaissie:

    @phran

    LOL My favorite part:

    “It is worth mentioning that Blu-ray sold more in these relatively slow two first months of the year than digital downloads did in the whole of 2009 ($199 million, including both standard-definition and high-definition, according to Screen Digest). In spite of all the continuous hype from tech sites and web pundits about the impending digital domination and the disc’s demise, the public seems to see much more value in a movie when it comes on a high-quality physical support with top-notch video, audio and extras than on a downloaded video file.”

    I wish HH could see the smile on my face. At least we can still rub it in for CAD.

  68. ncaissie:

    “Sony sign a deal with all six major movie studios to offer their library on exlusively on PSN”

    They can shove it.

  69. Roca.:

    “I wish HH could see the smile on my face”

    in HH’s head…..Bluray is still a failure!
    I’m glad Liquid made him go away

  70. ncaissie:

    And CAD. “Sorry Dave but Bluray is the past.”

  71. Roca.:

    @ncaissie
    and he said that after he spent extra money on a bluray player LOL

  72. phranctoast:

    @ncaissie

    Yeah that one quote just lifted up Happy’s skirt and gave it to him hardcore……without lube :)

  73. Roca.:

    LOL

  74. ncaissie:

    LOL yes it did.
    Is he gone for good?

  75. phranctoast:

    “Is he gone for good?”

    After he finishes getting little boy junk he should be back. I believe he said three months.

  76. ncaissie:

    “After he finishes getting little boy junk he should be back. I believe he said three months.”

    LOL I can’t wait to rub it in.

  77. Roca.:

    I always enjoyed making HH look like a dick.
    I still can’t get over the fact that he bet Halo Reach was going to be the best looking game! LMAOO

  78. ncaissie:

    Do you think these xbots will ever tier of being wrong?

    I notice a lot of them are buying PS3s and none of the PS3 people are saying they bought a 360.
    It’s so funny. And the “you’re a true gamer if you own both consol’s” is a load of crap. I have many consols and won’t get a 360 unless it gets to $50. If I wanted to play anything on the 360 I would buy it for PC or borrow my brothers.

  79. ncaissie:

    I may not be the best gamer but I consider myself a gamer.

  80. CAD:

    if your games are being cut back then blame Sony”

    while at it, lets also blame Sony for the 360 shitty hardware, 360 not having wifi, original 360 not having HDMI port and controller without builtin battery……oh I almost forgot, Lets ALSO blame Sony for MS charging $50/yr for online play!

    Well having built in WiFi means you cannot upgrade so the 360 made the right decision. Many PS3′s are going down and a good amount of you have had to pay for your fixes even under warrenty. Having a controller with a replaceable battery is better then having a controller you will have to replace when the battery life is at it’s end. Lets also have a LOL moment at the short ass recharge wire they provide. LOL I’m also going to laugh my ass off when Sony starts charging for cross-game chat. LOL But LIVE is much better and PSN is a Joke.

  81. Roca.:

    “Do you think these xbots will ever tier of being wrong?”

    the frustration of not having any valid “bad thing” to say about the PS3 is killing them….all they have left now is making shit up (example below)

    CAD – “Sorry Dave but Bluray is the past.”

  82. CAD:

    ouch.. Roca is on Fire!

    What Fire. I didn’t know Roca has Ganaria.

  83. Roca.:

    another example:
    CAD – “Well having built in WiFi means you cannot upgrade so the 360 made the right decision”

    sometimes I wonder if they have any clue of what they are saying :|

  84. CAD:

    Sorry nerver wrong. I’ve paid attention to the whole history and the only people that are blind is PS3 Fanboy because you support a compnay that does not give a shit about you.

  85. ncaissie:

    “Well having built in WiFi means you cannot upgrade so the 360 made the right decision”
    How so? I’m sure if Sony wanted to they could make a USB 80211n stick for the PS3.

  86. ncaissie:

    “Many PS3’s are going down and a good amount of you have had to pay for your fixes even under warrenty. ”
    Bull shit. Name one!

  87. ncaissie:

    Why do you always have to make shit up CAD?

  88. jojo29:

    @roca, good job on your posts, leaves very little for me to add or say lol

    As for a happyhockum: ROFL! I remember being here when he was preaching the following:

    The ps3 trojan horsed the br. This one maybe true but what were the results?: br won the format war, the ps3 becomes the definitive value pack system of choice. Good foresight sony..and a good way to bloat their wallets, despite the costs of the ps3…see, I don’t see sony as some type of friend to me, they want money, but they seem to cater to what the consumer wants: vale and longetivity..no one wants to replace their stuff 2 years later.

    It bloated the cost for something we didn’t need: this one always bewildered me…we always buy things we don’t “need”. Happy had admitted to buying a seperate br player…something he didn’t need to do had he bought a ps3…knock out two birds with one stone I say…

    The ps3 br-d is horrible compared to other players
    Games don’t need it..: another fanboy comment because one just needs to look at top 5 br players and the ps3 will be there

    All this is further backed up by at least 5 major developers complaining about the limitations of the 360 hardware

    I fought and fought with his dumb ass time and time again…I wish we could link back to those articles, cuz cad/happy would be eating their own shit right now, as I called it on them then…

  89. CAD:

    Sorry but I’ve never made anything up. I speak facts and I never contridict myself much like PS3 Fanboys. LOL

  90. stopstopp:

    ouch.. Roca is on Fire!

    What? FIRE!! FIRE BAD FIRE BAD!

  91. stopstopp:

    Cad

    If you say you post facts, then post sources.

  92. twilight:

    Well, I certainly love blu rays. I just came from the store loading up on James Bond blu ray movies. They are on sale this week. I can’t wait for Lord of the Rings to come out on blu ray.

  93. AgendaZ:

    “Nothing on consoles looks better than crysis”
    @jojo29
    You are so LAME!!!
    you are taking a game that is on a $600-$1000 pc for it to run and compare it to a $299 system.. plz stay in school, you will learn more son

  94. Saber_HAHAha:

    @ CAD

    So you would rather take no wi-fi over wi-fi, a controller that you need to buy batteries/charger for rather than one with an internal battery and a charger, and a good warranty over good reliability, in 2 consoles that cost the same?

    I’m not buying that one. Would your tone be different if those features between the 2 consoles were switched?

    I can take “the PS3′s short ass charge cable”, but PSN isn’t a joke. Think about if you want to go on and play some COD or Battlefield, or something. I don’t see a $50/year difference. In fact, I see nearly no difference. I’m not saying that XBL isn’t better than PSN, but I AM saying that the difference isn’t that huge.

  95. RomasantaMC:

    @Ivan
    I would of told you why you lie but seems phranc got to it.
    Everyone go check out your Movie Galleries they got $8 going out of buisness blurays.

  96. Ivan_PSP:

    RomasantaMC:
    LMFAO.

  97. me_:

    “Sony’s latest blu ray player in this price range is one of the most stripped down blu ray players on the market. You get what you pay for. The Ps3 is one of the best blu ray players on the market. Its features and overall performance are top notch.”

    Funny, that’s what I hear when I come to (Sony) gamer forums but when I go to AV forums their not too keen on the PS3 anymore.

    I got a standalone player because I used a PS2 as a DVD player for a long time. In the end it was loud, clunky to use (in comparison) and performed poorly. After that I decided I wouldn’t make the same mistake again. Besides I’ve already got two consoles hooked up to the TV, I didn’t want another one.

  98. jojo29:

    @CAD

    Microsoft does give a shit about you…ramming you in the ass:

    Unreliable 35%+ failure rate console even to this day

    $50 bucks to play online with servers that can be worse, but no better than psn servers…

    Wifi you gotta pay for

    No hidef experience at all….sorry streaming is not better than a br disc..

    No br

    Hardware that is pissing off developers, top dawg developers at that…

    Try and come back from that…so we can point and laugh at you

    Where’s your bitchass xbot convoy now, that’s right, they all went and bought ps3s so all their arguments are poof, and quit trting to lie, you already messaged me the truth of what you are trying to do here on blorge over the psn network. He’s just trying to get responses from people, he already told me over psn

  99. jojo29:

    @Me_

    Ok I hope you mean th AVSForums. The only reason they are not too keen on the ps3 is because they are going for the latest and greatest in AUDIO and video quality. I’m also a regular on the avs forums, so if your gonna post about them, don’t post bullshit. The peeps at avs are pretty top notch and are true enthusiasts meaning they will recommend products based on a budget and preference you post. But they won’t hesistate recommending a ps3, quit posting bullshit.

    I also frequent the following sites

    Arstechnica
    Highdef digest
    Bluetights <–superman forums
    Dsmtuners<— car forums

    And am rated at least above avg on them ;)

  100. CON:

    What was that about HH not being back for 3 months?

  101. ncaissie:

    Bluetights <–superman forums

    I will have to check that out

  102. Roca.:

    “What was that about HH not being back for 3 months?”

    you miss him already?

  103. Liquid:

    HH wont ever be back. he has a nervous breakdown everytime he hears the word liquid.

  104. twilight:

    Liquid,
    Lol.

  105. me_:

    Sorry Jojo, I have a little trouble believing your objective.

    Maybe I’m just part of the “bitchass xbot convoy”

  106. oldschool1987:

    @ CON:

    HH has joined the Army and was sent to Afghanistan to fight in the very legal and correct war. He is killing your family members as we speak. Let’s hope he don’t miss any out.

  107. JofaMang:

    @Twilight
    I believe the LotR blueray releases are supposed to coincide with The Hobbit. I heard that the regular version comes earlier with the full extended version when The Hobbit hits theatres. Rumor or truth, I too am waiting for the BD versions. I have the full extended Boxed versions of the LotR on DVD, and it upscales very well on the PS3, but native BR will be just bitchin, heh.

  108. twilight:

    JofaMang,
    Hopefully, they’ll do an excellent job transfering the films to blu ray. Lord of the Rings is one of my absolute favorite movies of all time.

  109. Ivan_PSP:

    I want to see AVATAR again but in my 46″ Bravia and soon i will be buying a new HDTV from Sony for 3D. I’m buying the AVATAR Blu-ray Disc film as as it launches.

  110. harry sachz:

    @ Jofa,

    They’re making a hobbit movie? Is Peter Jackson doing it? Do you know when it’s out?

  111. twilight:

    Ivan,
    I haven’t seen this film. I may check it out when it comes out on blu ray.

  112. Ivan_PSP:

    harry sachz:
    Go here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hobbit_%282011_film%29

    twilight:
    Is awesome the movie and the 2 Spanish girls from DR and PR.

  113. phranctoast:

    @OS

    That made me laugh hard.

    @harry
    It’s supposed to arrive in two parts. To my understanding the first one will show how gandalf gets the map and key from the dwarf king who escapes frp, Dol Guldor from the withcking (Witch-king of Angmar) who was known as the Necromancer in the Hobbit. Then tells the whole Hobbit story and the socnd part will tie up loose ends between that and The Fellowship.

    I personally am waiting for the Extended BRD edition and not buying the one coming out soon. If you don’t do the extended edition, you might not do them at all imo.

  114. Ivan_PSP:

    Carlos Slim Helú beats Bill Gates as the worlds richest man.

  115. stopstopp:

    Darnit Ivan you beat me to it.

  116. Ivan_PSP:

    stopstopp:
    Bill Gates is losing money damn he’s really buying too much DLC LMFAO and too many reviews. Oh well the fans might be stupid not to see it but the bank is showing.

  117. phranctoast:

    2012 has 41% market share on Blu ray.

    http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=4275

    50% here we come!!!!

  118. Roca.:

    “2012 has 41% market share on Blu ray”

    does the other 59% includes DVD + DD? if so I think we have a winner ;)

  119. phranctoast:

    Thats I’m not too sure of. I think it may be physical media only. But don’t quote me on that….

  120. Roca.:

    anybody’s watching “Green Zone” this weekend?

  121. Ivan_PSP:

    Roca.:
    I will when they release a good DVDRIP copy.

  122. Liquid:

    has anyone seen alice in wonderland yet?

  123. Ivan_PSP:

    If love Microsoft you love the US support for the Xbox brand go here
    youtube.com/watch?v=gikEDlLpuPs

  124. ncaissie:

    “has anyone seen alice in wonderland yet?”

    I took my daughters to see it last saturday.
    it was ok.

  125. RomasantaMC:

    @Ivan
    Beautiful vid, I wish I could dispose of my outdated/broken electronics the same way.

  126. Ivan_PSP:

    RomasantaMC:
    Only Microsoft’s product get the US soldier to dispose of their crap like that. I hope they buy them a real console aka PlayStation 3. I feel sad for them that they had to put up with that trash. The Marines use PS3.

  127. RomasantaMC:

    Guess I chose the wrong proffesion then.

  128. Ivan_PSP:

    LoL

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