Xbox 360 system update is now live with some conditions

April 7, 2010

Xbox 360 system update is now live with some conditions The latest update for the Xbox 360 is finally here and it’s packing some good stuff. As advertised the update brings the long awaited external USB drive support along with a few extra bells and whistles.

Even though Microsoft has restricted the maximum size the Xbox 360 can read to 16GB, the feature is definitely nice to have. However, many gamers rushing to plug in their USB thumb drives may find an odd message popping up.

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I am not sure why my off the shelf USB SanDisk thumb drive does not meet Xbox 360’s performance requirements. Oddly enough many seem to be getting this strange message when using their USB thumb drives as well.

I wonder if we need to purchase Microsoft’s official USB thumb drives priced at 8GB for $40 and 16GB for $70 to experience the full performance needed for the Xbox 360. Despite the scary warning message my USB thumb drive seems to be running fine with no apparent “performance issues.”

259 Responses to “Xbox 360 system update is now live with some conditions”

  1. The Future of Sega:

    Ah this doesn’t surprise me in the slightest. It’s what I’ve come to expect from Microsoft. I updated my halo edition 360 earlier today and had no idea what it was for….having my ps3 break down has really taken it’s toll on my social life….like i actually have one lol…..well when i was with my ex gf…..um anyways back to the point, does this mean I can finally upload videos on my 360 via usb?

    I hope that the update supported my video file types….but then again customers should abandon all hope when it comes to Microsoft. We still haven’t received full backward compatibility with original xbox games yet. :-)

    Hows it going Mike?

  2. Spideydog:

    “I wonder if we need to purchase Microsoft’s official USB thumb drives priced at 8GB for $40 and 16GB for $70 to experience the full performance needed for the Xbox 360. Despite the scary warning message my USB thumb drive seems to be running fine with no apparent “performance issues.””

    You took the words outta my mouth. I bet you don’t get that message on their device, even if the “off the shelf” drives work just as good, or even better.

    Good sales ploy, and hardly surprising.

  3. Spideydog:

    What is the current name of the update ….. (I update via downloading from the net – not by LIVE)

    Is it “$systemupdate_fall09_8955″

    Just don’t know if they have updated it here to the current file ??

  4. RomasantaMC:

    @Spidey
    do you mean you downloaded it to some external storage and then updated it through that process?

    This would be nice so I don’t have to rig my PC as an wifi adapter for my xbox each time I want to update my xbox

  5. Spideydog:

    I haven’t tried with thumb drive, but have done with it burnt to a cd and works fine. I will try with a thumb drive this time (waste of a cd) just need to confirn if it’s the current update

  6. phranctoast:

    “I wonder if we need to purchase Microsoft’s official USB thumb drives priced at 8GB for $40 and 16GB for $70 to experience the full performance needed for the Xbox 360. Despite the scary warning message my USB thumb drive seems to be running fine with no apparent “performance issues.”

    *sigh*
    Did anyone ever say MS doesn’t specialize in FUD?

    Where’s CAD to defend this? ;)

  7. Ivan_PSP:

    “I wonder if we need to purchase Microsoft’s official USB thumb drives priced at 8GB for $40 and 16GB for $70 to experience the full performance needed for the Xbox 360.”

    Awesome thing to say i had to quoted. Damn you all did too LoL. PS3 has this already.

  8. Roca.:

    “I wonder if we need to purchase Microsoft’s official USB thumb drives priced at 8GB for $40 and 16GB for $70 to experience the full performance needed for the Xbox 360″

    this dont suprise me one bit, I remember MS selling 512MB memory cards for $50…..what a rip off

  9. harry sachz:

    What’s the issue? Mike said it works fine with no performance problems. Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill…. It’s not like half of the people commenting here even own a 360 to get up in arms over it.

  10. phranctoast:

    Just another example of Microsoft lying to their userbase. An uninformed person (read kid) may see this lie as a reason to run out and buy the overpriced official USB device.

    Maybe we’re completely wrong. Maybe this message only pops up when using a USB 1.0 device and 2.0 devices are fine. Anyone with a 360 want to field test this so we can get back to ripping on MS?

  11. me_:

    Does this update let me run Linux on my XBOX?

  12. Ivan_PSP:

    harry sachz:
    LoL, true it works fine for me.

  13. RomasantaMC:

    @me
    No it doesn’t and will never have linux support like the Ps3 supported for 3 years. At least I don’t have to worry about my Ps3 gettn hacked anytime soon.

  14. Ivan_PSP:

    RomasantaMC:
    “At least I don’t have to worry about my Ps3 gettn hacked anytime soon.”

    Even when the PS3 gets hack why would you need to worry about it.

  15. Roca.:

    “Does this update let me run Linux on my XBOX?”

    your Xbox CAN’T even run a web browser ;)

  16. CarlB:

    Hmmm… now all I need is to be able to sync the most popular usb device… oh yes, I can already sync it on my 360:

    “More iPads Sold on Launch Day than PS3′s”

    http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=7677

  17. phranctoast:

    My biggest fear if my respective system was hacked would be some douche creating a virus that would inevitably brick the system.

  18. phranctoast:

    @Carlb,

    Weren’t there supply issues with the PS3 at launch?
    I recall getting mine two weeks later and I was on a line where they gave vouchers.

    Swing and a Miss ;)
    But thanks for playing :)

  19. CarlB:

    “And yes, everyone ran out of iPads too, so don’t just blame the supply.”

    “Swing and a Miss ;)
    But thanks for playing :)”

  20. Roca.:

    CarlB
    you don’t know what you are talking about, I was at the mall yesterday (stated on the previous article about the DC Universer reservation) and I went to a the Apple store to check the new iPad and there was a huge line full of people waiting for their turn tu purchase the iPad.

    and why you are comparing a device that has no competition on the market to a console competing with 2 other successful companies

  21. Roca.:

    CarlB
    Swing and a Miss :)
    Strike 2, one more and you’re out

  22. phranctoast:

    Your originality shines through like a beacon Carlb. I wonder if you can complete sentences without trying to replicate mine…

  23. phranctoast:

    I personally don’t see the draw to the iPad. It’s way to big for a portable game solution. Seems like a fad, or the “thing to get so I can show off to my friends” device.

    @Roca
    Catch that Yankees/Boston game last night? It was nice to see Joba back to original form. To K’s and a fist pump.

  24. Roca.:

    iPad for sales – All in stock

    http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_ipad/family/ipad

  25. CarlB:

    “I was at the mall yesterday…”

    Yes roca, I was at the PX yesterday as well as throughout the time the PS3 was said to be unavailable and there were huge supplies there as well. Anecdotal is not universal.

    Roca
    Swing and a Miss :)
    Strike 2, one more and you’re out

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/technology/news/e3i309cdb262cc7125ed3ef68c488e3ef64

  26. CarlB:

    “Your originality shines”

    Oooh. Sorry phranc. Didn’t realize you created the phrase “swing and a miss” all on your own, but I did use quotation marks for your benefit. Might want to talk to roca about the copy without authorization as well. Think about trademarking if it is truly a concern.

  27. ncaissie:

    I wonder if the USB on the 360 is USB 1. LOL that wouldn’t surprise me at all.

  28. Roca.:

    “the PS3 was said to be unavailable and there were huge supplies there as well”

    Bullshit, when the PS3 came out retail store were handing out tickets for those who were in line, most store had 12-25. After those were gone ppl had to wait until the next batch which was weeks later. the Wii had a better launch than the PS3 because of the PS3 shortage during launch.

    and like a said, why you are comparing a device that has no competition on the market to a console competing with 2 other successful companies

  29. Roca.:

    CarlB you dont have a clue of what you are talking about (as always) you bought you PS3 on Oct 2009, not on launch day like others.

  30. ncaissie:

    ““More iPads Sold on Launch Day than PS3’s””

    LMAO Now your comparing sales of a consol to sales of a media player? You are one pathetic moron. You fuckin idiot.

  31. phranctoast:

    I call it as I see it. Copying phrases from others posts appears to be your MO. Doesn’t make you funny nor support any point you try to make. It Just makes your arguments/debates all the more weaker.

  32. CarlB:

    Believe what you want to believe in your own little part of the world, but it doesn’t go for every part of it.

    and why are you so upset? First you were stating iPhone outsold PSP because it was a phone, now a device that is clearly not a phone, even without a camera, outsold PS3 at launch, let alone PSP. I’m not doing the comparison, but gaming websites are. Ask them.

  33. Roca.:

    “You are one pathetic moron. You fuckin idiot.”

    indeed

  34. phranctoast:

    The PS3 is finally being stocked, and at more significant numbers lately.

    If you guys read some of the posts form that insider on blu ray.com, He was indeed correct with the supply estimation. They are available and supply is less limited.

    It’s still going to take until the Summer until the issue is completely remedied, but if you really want one you’ll be able to get one.

  35. CarlB:

    Roca, I’m talking about the recent shortage this year when I speak of the PX.

    “LMAO Now your comparing sales of a consol to sales of a media player?”

    “LMAO” Now isn’t the PS3 supposed to be the media hub of the home? “It only does everything” after all. Don’t be a “fuckin idiot”, and continue striving to reach the “pathetic moron” status you always knew you could attain.

    Nice icon phranc. Is that your own now as well? If you want to claim originality then live it. Don’t be a hypocrite.

  36. Roca.:

    “now a device that is clearly not a phone, even without a camera, outsold PS3 at launch”

    does the PS3 had a camara? you are trying to hard Carlb, if I were you I would stfu before you make youself look dumber.

    and the Apple website had all iPad version in stock and AVAILABLE NOW!…

  37. Roca.:

    “Roca, I’m talking about the recent shortage this year when I speak of the PX.”

    so you are comparing sales of a launch day device vs the sales of a 3 year old console in the middle of a massive production shortage?

    if you want to go tha route, the I bet it outsold the Wii, 360, PSP and DS also as none of those console sold 300K units the day the iPad launched
    you really are pathetic

  38. CarlB:

    “does the PS3 had a camara?”

    Yes actually. It’s called the Eye. Perhaps you’ve heard of it… or perchance (gasp!)… even spoken favorably of it?

    “Apple website had all iPad version in stock and AVAILABLE NOW!…”

    Nice. Looks like Apple has a more capable logistics/manufacturing chain than Sony. Thanks for pointing that out.

  39. Roca.:

    CarlB
    the PS3 and the iPad dont have a built-in camara, but you can buy a camara device (add-on, sold separately) for both. Thanks for proving how wrong you are in this topic.

  40. phranctoast:

    I’m glad you like my gravatar carlb. It’s original as far as blorge is concerned. I really rather have the “pew, pew, pew” screen capture though. I felt it was more appropriate than the Fallout 2 pregnant woman kicker.

  41. Roca.:

    “Apple website have all iPad version in stock and AVAILABLE NOW!”
    “Nice. Looks like Apple has a more capable logistics/manufacturing chain than Sony. Thanks for pointing that out.”

    ^^^ you are now contradicting yourself,
    first you said the were all out of stuck, now that I proved you wrong you backed away from your original argument. lmao you are a clown

  42. CarlB:

    “so you are comparing sales of a launch day device vs the sales of a 3 year old console in the middle of a massive production shortage?”

    Again, I’m not the one comparing, just quoting other gaming sites, but, umm… you might want to read the linked info… or at least the title: “More iPads Sold on Launch Day than PS3’s”… key words there being “Launch Day”.

    PS3 just seems to have the weakest launch week out of the big three, which may be why it is being picked on:

    Wii: 529,650
    DS: 546,500
    360: 352,950

    PSP: 163,812
    PS3: 086,740

    http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=X360&reg3=All&weeks=1

    Another reason may be that iPad seems to be similarly priced to the PS3 launch prices. Nothing to get worked up about though.

  43. Roca.:

    CarlB – “Roca, I’m talking about the recent shortage this year when I speak of the PX.”

    CarlB – “PS3 just seems to have the weakest launch week out of the big three”

    you are contradicting yourself again CarlB, so which one is it, “launch shortage” or “this year recent shortage”?

  44. CarlB:

    “first you said the were all out of stuck”

    brick and mortar logchains vice online retail are two different stories, recently proved this year with PS3 shortages. As well, it seems resellers don’t prey (i.e. exorbitantly price on EBay) as much on new devices like iPad nearly as much as they do home gaming consoles like Wii/PS3 at launch. Again, nothing to reduce yourself to preschool (name calling) levels about.

  45. CarlB:

    “you are contradicting yourself again CarlB”

    I’m sorry, was there not a PS3 shortage early this year? I only got on island a few months ago, and can therefore only talk about this year’s supply here at the PX. I thought you aware of both situations, but sorry if I’m overestimating your knowledge or memory capacity.

  46. Roca.:

    Ipad are all Available NOW and they didnt have a shortage at lunch like the PS3, which most store only had about 12-25 consles on launch day.

    key word = Shortage

  47. phranctoast:

    Stop confusing the matter with facts Roca. Lies and misdirection are the only true “facts” these guys understand.

  48. Roca.:

    @CarlB
    “I thought you aware of both situations”

    I’m aware of it (you also argue the recent shortage during Jan-Feb NPD numbers, contradicting yourself again) but I’m just not sure which ‘shortage’you are talking about that the iPad outsold?

  49. Happyhockum:

    Typical.

    An Xbox story with Pbots all over it pretending that ‘ordinary’ USB flash drives might not work after the latest update just enabled them.

    Of course to the Pbots it’s a case of ‘how dare Microsoft put a little caution flag up if users plug in a non-brand drive’.

    All flash drives are exactly the same and run exactly the same specs for speeds.

    Don’t they…….oh, they don’t.

    Muppets.

    Nice one Microsoft, another neat bit of customer-friendly usability
    (Arcade owners will love this, 32gbs of quiet cheap storage).

    Personally I’m now just looking forward to the next NPD numbers.
    They’ll show a whole 1/4 in ’10 where this BS about 2010 being (finally) the year of the PS3 is laughable BS.
    Which will be nice.

  50. Roca.:

    do you own a iPad or are you planning to buy one CarlB?

  51. Roca.:

    @Phranc
    “Stop confusing the matter with facts Roca. Lies and misdirection are the only true “facts” these guys understand.”

    glad to see that I’m not the only one notince what CarlB is trying to do here ;)
    he is truly the master of misdirection

    @HH
    since when the “year of PS3/360″ is based on sales?
    I beleved the 360 and PS3 are both gaming console so which ever console has the best ‘gaming’ lineup will win the “the year of….” award
    so far the PS3 has had the best lineup since 2008 (proof can be found on IGN, Metacritics, kotaku and more)

  52. CarlB:

    “I’m just not sure which ’shortage’you are talking about that the iPad outsold?”

    Actually, it was just a simple quote about iPad outselling PS3 at launch. Shortages were brought up later as some kind of justification. The end result is the same. No lies or misdirection, unless you count shortages as misdirection on phranc’s part, which you upheld and supported with a vehement fervor, for some reason or other.

  53. Happyhockum:

    There’s no test quite like the public voting with their wallets.

    You Pbot lot hate that cos then you have to face up to the Wii battering your beloved all over the place
    (interestingly Xbox owners are not so fussed – especially as Xbox is now starting to sell faster than the Wii).

    Still, you just carry on your disinformation routine (as if anyone is going to be influenced) pretending that any USB drive won’t wwork after the latest update.

  54. phranctoast:

    To put it simply than. Carlb is right.

    iPad outsold The PS3 at launch..done and done.

    Trying to state the fact that the PS3 had shortages at launch is just an excuse and does not negate the simple fact that it was outsold by a device that wasn’t in short supply.

    This is as meaningless as trying to compare movie sales when one was in 100K less theaters.

  55. phranctoast:

    @HH
    PS3 is outselling the 360 worldwide. Carlb can verify this for you with VG chartz (I’m blocked from here)

    PS3 has also had shortages for the first quarter of the year. This is not up for debate and is indeed a fact.

  56. phranctoast:

    “Still, you just carry on your disinformation routine (as if anyone is going to be influenced) pretending that any USB drive won’t wwork after the latest update.”

    Who says other devices wont work? If anyone it’s MS trying to get people to spend twice as much on their proprietary device when it’s not needed.

    Talk about defending filthy practices…sheesh

  57. CAD:

    Well I got the same message but I found no performance issues. I pluged in a 2GB Flash Drive and it left me with 1.4 GB after it formated the Drive I put my profiles on it and I found no issue. I then pluged in my external HD and it gave the same message but I allocated 16GB and it told me that it would use 512 MB plus the 16GB and when it was over I had 16GB. I threw a Demo on it and I played it with no problems.

  58. Roca.:

    “There’s no test quite like the public voting with their wallets”

    yeah, games like Okami, Ico, Valkyria Chronicles, Madworld, sold horrobly but that doesnt change the fact that those games are one of the best games in their genre. HH usually have nothing to add to support your rants.

    the PS3 has had the best gaming lineup since 2008.

  59. phranctoast:

    @CAD

    Are both these devices USB 2.0 or 1.0?

  60. CAD:

    On IGN the Flash drives they used did not give them this message with the Drives they used.

    http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/108/1082253p1.html

  61. Wylie77:

    In other news, M&M’s also outsold the PS3 yesterday. The Mars company representitive praised the M&M brand and said how happy they were for this achievement even though they don’t see how the PS3 is competition to them considering they are two completely different products.

  62. CAD:

    Dude I don’t even know. But I’m sure they are 2.0 and not 1.0

  63. RomasantaMC:

    @Wylie
    good point,
    did they have shortages?

  64. phranctoast:

    Ok.. Thank you CAD. I was just checking.

    @Wylie

    LOL :)

  65. CAD:

    Spidy why go through the hassel. Just connect to LIVE and update.

  66. Roca.:

    @Wylie77
    Good one lol

    @RomasantaMC
    Lol

  67. CAD:

    “your Xbox CAN’T even run a web browser”

    Roca

    Actually yes it can. You have to have Vista and I’m sure Windows 7 as my information was before that even came out. There is a plug in for it. I’ve seen instructions online but I never bothered probably because I had XP at the time.

  68. CAD:

    Phrachtoast

    Who would have a USB 1.0 anyway. How old is your tech dude.

  69. phranctoast:

    @CAD,

    I was trying to come up with excuses for MS for this message other than the “We want you to buy our “”official”” device” excuse.

  70. Roca.:

    “As reported from Xboxic, Xbox 360-system files are unreadable when using USB flash drives at the moment, but a group of modders have bypassed the encryption of these files and are now aiming to create a program that extracts the content to a PC desktop.

    Xboxic points out, that once the program becomes public, it could lead to sharing gamesaves and the modification of gamerpics and themes. There is a screenshot up at Xboxic which shows the current progress of the exploit”

    who’s in charge of security/protection at MS? that guy should have been fired long time ago.

  71. Ivan_PSP:

    CarlB:
    I see no reason why iPad sales better but what ever. CarlB needed something new to brag LMFAO. We all know the PS3 is selling very good the demand is at a all time high Sony can hardly keep up with the demand. I have never seen Xbox 360 in the top 50 on Amazon best seller list.

    Roca.:
    True i can’t believe Microsoft hasn’t added Internet Explorer to Xbox 360 they are so stupid i want it. I only use Firefox on my computers and sometimes on my PS3 using Linux.

    Currently playing UNCHARTED 2: Among thieves online Competitive. http://www.naughtydog.com/stats/index/ivan-

  72. Roca.:

    @CAD

    **Greenberg: Xbox 360 won’t get Web browser**
    http://www.destructoid.com/greenberg-xbox-360-won-t-get-web-browser-169465.phtml

  73. CAD:

    Oh Phranctoast please the PS3 had Supply Problems at launch. LOL That was the Wii dude.

    In truth it did only for a little while as people were buying them and reselling them on EBAY for twice the price just to make a profit. My buddy did that and made some good coin of it. Suckers!!

  74. Ivan_PSP:

    I meant to write this. There’s no reason in hell why iPad sales matter is not a video game console not even close.

  75. phranctoast:

    I was thinking about it, and there would be “performance” issues no matter what to some degree.

    Some of you guys are more PC savy than me (Jofa), but correct me if I’m wrong.

    USB 2.0 is significantly slower than both IDE and SATA internal drives.

    Someone installing a game on a flash drive will not have the same performance as someone installing it to an internal HDD. This is regardless of whether or not you use the official MS ripoff USB flash device or another.

  76. CAD:

    Yeah Roca they are not putting it there intentionally you have to work for it.

  77. CAD:

    Well Phranctoast say what you will but like I said it work with no problems. Flash and Hard Drive. Even Mike siad it worked.

  78. Roca.:

    “True i can’t believe Microsoft hasn’t added Internet Explorer to Xbox 360″

    because IE is the most unsecure internet browser.

  79. RomasantaMC:

    Roca
    you could exploit a way to web browse and get email but I think MS patched this, not sure though.

    Ivan
    my second post was worring about my account getting hacked. As for uncharted you don’t find the MP odd if not ruined from the amazing MP it was.

  80. phranctoast:

    @CAD
    I think you’re missing my point. Go back and read it again, and if you still don’t understand I’ll figure out a better way to explain it to you.

  81. Roca.:

    “Yeah Roca they are not putting it there intentionally you have to work for it.”

    @CAD
    ohh, I get it…MS’s philosophy is that you have to work to get a lil extra feature for their products.
    I should’ve noticed it since you also have to work for wifi, online play, batteries, physical HD player etc.

  82. RomasantaMC:

    @phranc
    I think thats what the 500Mb format usage is for, to allow the xbox quicker access.

  83. Roca.:

    @RomasantaMC
    “As for uncharted you don’t find the MP odd if not ruined from the amazing MP it was.”

    was is the BIG difference now? I didnt get much playtime of the online mode before the update

  84. Ivan_PSP:

    RomasantaMC:
    The UNCHARTED 2: Among Thieves online part does not affect the single player it has no reason. I don’t know why people always say that.

    Roca.:
    Yes Internet Explorer is the worst most unsecured browser.

  85. phranctoast:

    @Roma

    Yeah, but you’re still limited by USB 2.0 inherent speed restrictions. USB can only go so fast, and as I come to know it, that speed isn’t nearly as close as internal HDD’s speeds.

  86. CAD:

    Roca only you would have issues. True online games connect to a wire, Batteries were never an issue the design of the PS3 controller is an issue, All system sell with some type of storage, and Xbox Live is better and worth it chaep ass.

  87. Ivan_PSP:

    CAD:
    The PS3 controller is the best one. And how in the hell is the design an issue? Xbox Live is too laggy for a PAID service. And all PS3 have HDD.

  88. Roca.:

    @CAD
    it doesnt change the fact that MS sells all those things and you still have to pay extra to get them.

    idk why 360 users thinks that “A” is better than “A+B+C+D” when both product cost the same.

  89. RomasantaMC:

    @phranc
    Yeah but if you think about it You can run an OS and play some games from an external HD on a PC. There might be slow load and startup times for the Demo but I think that would be the only factor for short demos for long ones you might run into searching errors.

    @Cad
    runnin a cable from my basement living room to my upstairs router would be a bitch. There is no difference between wired and wireless if you got a true gaming router.

    @Roca
    You can use almost any laptop as a wifi transmitter for the xbox.
    as for the uncharted2 MP before updates 1.05-1.06 The game pushed out Gears2 when it came down to My favorite MP game, but alas just like gears 2 people bitched how it wasn’t call of duty so they changed the gameplay.

  90. Ivan_PSP:

    I always use Wireless for my PS3 and i never get disconnect and i can always download extremely fast.

    Xbox 360 is full of overpriced ADD-ON for idiots to buy.

  91. RomasantaMC:

    @Ivan
    There is little difference in online gaming lag PSN Vs. Live. (only argue if you actually own both systems)
    “RomasantaMC:
    The UNCHARTED 2: Among Thieves online part does not affect the single player it has no reason. I don’t know why people always say that.”
    I never did say that the MP affected the SP?
    But I had over 100hrs into the game before FeB. it replaced Gears 2 in my book.

  92. Roca.:

    @RomasantaMC
    I still dont get it, what exactly did they change with this new update?

    “You can use almost any laptop as a wifi transmitter for the xbox”

    that is still a $300-800 wifi transmitter when it should have come for free, the DS, PSP, Wii, phones and PS3 got it built-in for free

  93. Ivan_PSP:

    RomasantaMC:
    I own 3 Xbox 360. And Xbox Live is a lag fest.

  94. phranctoast:

    “@phranc
    Yeah but if you think about it You can run an OS and play some games from an external HD on a PC. There might be slow load and startup times for the Demo but I think that would be the only factor for short demos for long ones you might run into searching errors. ”

    That’s exactly the performance issues I was talking about. I have no doubt that these devices will work, but how well they will work.

    I have a USB2 Flash drive that I backup game saves on. It takes longer to save on it than the HDD. I’m thinking this is the “performance” issue MS was talking about, and not the type of lack of performance that would make it straight up not work.

  95. Ivan_PSP:

    Microsoft makes sure that the over priced USB that they got is better to suck you into buying it. Microsoft is all about monopolizing and using propaganda to sell their awful products. QUALITY is a bad word for Microsoft’s staff is not even allow. In features PS3 has the best and the most no doubt, PS3 is the ultimate gaming system.

  96. RomasantaMC:

    Ivan REALLY? I don’t have any problems. The post (only argue if you actually own both systems), was to weed out undesirables.

    @
    Roca yeah I know, just postn an inconveinant work around to something stupidly not included, as I posted for Cad I don’t want to run cables everywhere in my house. I didn’t have time to descently give all cons to both you guys. trying to respond to to many people.

  97. CAD:

    Roca

    Considering the fact that I have not paid anything extra I have no idea what your talking about. Typical PS3 Fanboy Bullshit. The 360 is a better game console and I would never have changed my purchase decision even if they came out at the same time.

  98. Ivan_PSP:

    RomasantaMC:
    Okay. But side by side the PSN will rape Xbox Live in connection.

  99. CAD:

    RomasantaMC:

    Sorry to hear that. But haveing your internet connection in your basement is a bad choice on your part. I had mine installed in my living Room which is the best place for it. With all the devices for the living room have ethernet ports in these days it’s a foolish move to have it anywhere else.

  100. Ivan_PSP:

    Where do you people live in a cave here in NYC we have awesome wireless connection free and pay.

  101. RomasantaMC:

    @phranc
    I doubt to many problems will arise, MS has to have something up there sleeve with a 500MB partition set aside. Could be they do a small install on the system before playing and dump it later or Cad didn’t notice the load times (would be hard to notice the difference unless he already played it on the internal HD). But since I didn’t design the software I don’t know.

  102. CAD:

    The PS3 controller is such garbage I was playing Battlefield on PS3 and my hand started to cramp up and it became so uncomfortable. They make that controller for Chinese not the rest of the world.

  103. Ivan_PSP:

    CAD:
    You wish.

  104. Ivan_PSP:

    Chinese u a moron

  105. RomasantaMC:

    @Ivan
    well the lag people run into is either a poor host(usually Live ex. Halo3). Or the slight lag/frequent disconnects because of overloaded servers(Usually Psn ex. Killzone 2). Psn is usually fixed in about two weeks or sooner. Live is usually fixed by actually selecting to be pared with decent connections.

    @Cad
    my router is tucked away in a room upstairs with my gaming PC. Ps3 is in my upstairs living room and xbox is in my downstairs lounge/living room, I can connect to all of them via wireless (xbox included with workaround) + my 2 laptops can connect anytime. I find it stupid to have to have all 3 systems in one area or near it just to get internet and no wifi for my laptops. Some people like you don’t need wifi but it makes things MUCH easier for me.

  106. phranctoast:

    @CAD

    Maybe if you left your junk alone for a minute you wouldn’t have so many hand cramps.

    I guess it does make sense. You are married.

    Did you hear?….theres a food that cuts womens sex drive down 75%…..

    Wedding Cake ;)

  107. RomasantaMC:

    @Cad
    so you own a ps3? The controller takes getting used to if your not used to it.
    xbox cont. pros-triggers, offset sticks
    ps3 cont. pros- no annoying battery pack in back to get in way of hands, flat D-pad

  108. RomasantaMC:

    @phranc
    LOL
    I will insist there be no wedding cake at my reception

  109. Ivan_PSP:

    RomasantaMC:
    Well i have never experience lag on my games. But on Live try playing Gears of War and in a bit is laggy plus a a lot other games with bad online design.

    MAG runs perfect Warhawk servers also and Resistance 60 players smoothly. Xbox Live is a paid service that is shameful.

  110. Roca.:

    “Considering the fact that I have not paid anything extra I have no idea what your talking about.”

    1 out 40 million? those 360 add-ons dont sell by themselves you know…..MS keeps restocking them for a reason.

  111. Happyhockum:

    phranctoast:

    “Talk about defending filthy practices…sheesh”

    Boll*cks.

    Cry me a river over the capitalist market (and while you’re at it keep on pretending only Microsoft uses it).

    They are a business and (rightly) point out that the non-proprietary USB drive may not operate to the same spec as the one they sell.

    Not all USB drives are the same or operate to the same speeds.
    Regardless of that nobody is stopping anyone using whatever unit they wish to.

  112. Ivan_PSP:

    Xbox 360 is the most incomplete console ever made. Xbox 360 should be renamed Xbox Add-ON

  113. RomasantaMC:

    @Ivan
    you must’ve play killzone 2 when it first came out. Disconnects were frequent.
    Mag-takes little to no bandwith and was beta tested like crazy
    Resistance-Has insomciac ever let anyone down, by far my favorite Dev
    Warhawk-I don’t know how I got this game but I have yet to play it.

    Yes the current price doesn’t warrant what it offers but it still offers more then Psn currently. I only get gold when a great game comes out my friends insist gears2/Halo3 or I get a free month.

  114. RomasantaMC:

    Yeah Happy is “Playing”

    @happy
    Why don’t you give us a link comparing xbox USB write speeds to the a few Generic ones on the market. It would be fairly sufficient proof of your arguement.

  115. Ivan_PSP:

    Xbox USB is trash

  116. phranctoast:

    This is good coming from xbox.com/storage

    “I’m getting a “Performance Warning” message, what does that mean?
    If your device doesn’t meet Xbox 360 performance recommendations, you may experience significant performance problems playing games from the device or saving games and profiles to it. Buy an Xbox 360-branded USB Flash Drive to ensure optimal performance. More info …”

  117. RomasantaMC:

    @phranc
    thats propaganda,
    Doesn’t exist,
    your a stupid fanboy,
    MS doesn’t screw people on peripherals………EVER,
    LMAO

  118. phranctoast:

    @Roma,

    CAD or HH may say something like that…..seriously.

  119. Ivan_PSP:

    Join me in UNCHARTED 2: Among Thieves for some fun Competitive matches screw this Xbots.

  120. RomasantaMC:

    @HH
    “Cry me a river over the capitalist market (and while you’re at it keep on pretending only Microsoft uses it). ”
    No, but they do abuse it.

  121. CAD:

    It funny how all of a sudden speed matters because this is the same group who thinks that 2X Bluray Drive speed is faster then a 12x DVD Speed. LOL

  122. RomasantaMC:

    @Cad
    isn’t the bluray laser finer and collect more data than a dvd laser?
    “Blu-ray also has a higher data transfer rate — 36 Mbps (megabits per second) — than today’s DVDs, which transfer at 10 Mbps.”

  123. phranctoast:

    @CAD
    2X BD is faster than 12X DVD.

    It’s the seek time thats slower on BRD.

    As far as USB speed. I’m just trying to come up with a significant argument in favor of Micosoft’s “performance issues” using 3rd party devices. By saying that USB is slower than internal HDD’s (fact) is not a swipe at MS or the 360. Just something inherent to the technology.

  124. Roca.:

    “who thinks that 2X Bluray Drive speed is faster then a 12x DVD Speed”

    @CAD
    in fact it is faster, do you have any proof stating otherwise? if not stfu

  125. Roca.:

    “By saying that USB is slower than internal HDD’s (fact) is not a swipe at MS or the 360. Just something inherent to the technology”

    360 user lack comprehension skill, specially HH

  126. RomasantaMC:

    “By saying that USB is slower than internal HDD’s (fact) is not a swipe at MS or the 360. Just something inherent to the technology”

    Who argued against that?

  127. Liquid:

    happyhockum

    i believe 09 WAS the year of the ps3! jackass. . . .it outsold the 360 by two million units! now. . .go on. . .put your spin on it. . .fanboys. . . . .lmao

  128. Roca.:

    @Phranc
    sorry for the late response.

    yes I saw the game yesterday even though I was still pissed the let the opner get away from them. Yesterday’s game was a game one, I see that almost everybody is hitting except A-rod and Tex, which is good because when those two warm up the whole lineup is just going to get better.

    Joba should just stay as a setup men and wait until Mo retires so he can become the next great closer.

  129. phranctoast:

    @Roma

    CAD keeps either failing to read my posts or failing to understand them.

  130. phranctoast:

    “@happy
    Why don’t you give us a link comparing xbox USB write speeds to the a few Generic ones on the market. It would be fairly sufficient proof of your arguement.”

    I’d also like to see that. I’d love to know the big differences and what justifies a price for twice that of market value.

  131. RomasantaMC:

    Okay I thought it was directed at me. You know the fanboy thing was a joke right?

  132. phranctoast:

    @Roca

    I was happy to see Joba come in there and strike two people out. It’s like nothing changed from before. I was a bit worried with all the F’in up they’ve been doing with him from reliever to starter and back to reliever would have messed with his arm/skills. Glad to see that I was worried for nothing.

    Just for a flash back…. Last year the Yankees lost the first eight games to the Red Sox Then won the next eight, and still went to win the World Series.

  133. phranctoast:

    @Roma
    We’re cool ;)

  134. Roca.:

    @Phranc
    I live in Boston, so I cant afford to see the Red Sox win because I’m going to hear it all day long.

  135. phranctoast:

    If the Yanks win tonight make sure you get the gear on Friday to rub in in those chowder eaters faces.

  136. Roca.:

    LOL I will :D

  137. phranctoast:

    Alan Wake is releasing early, and at a reduced price.

    http://www.amazon.com/Deadly-Premonition-Xbox-360/dp/B002WSR8BC/ref=br_lf_m_1000208101_1_1_ttl?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=videogames&pf_rd_p=1259042222&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_t=1401&pf_rd_i=1000208101&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1GV22HFYYNS1XTX5S1SP

  138. Ivan_PSP:

    Syphon Filter might make it to PS3 can’t wait for E3.

  139. CAD:

    1X DVD speed is 1350 kilobytes per second.
    1X Blu-Ray speed is 4608 kilobytes (36 megabits) per second.

    So:
    2X Blu-ray drive is 9,216 kilobytes per second, or 9 megabytes per second.
    12X DVD is 16,200 kilobytes per second, or almost 16 megabytes per second.

  140. ncaissie:

    LOL

    cad, Carl and hh you are all retards. Go jump in front of a train already. Do the world a favor.

    there are millions of products that out sold the ps3 and 360.
    So fuckin what?

  141. Ivan_PSP:

    Media type High-density optical disc
    Encoding MPEG-2, H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, and VC-1
    Capacity 25 to 50 GB (single-layer)
    50 to 100 GB (dual-layer)
    Block size 64kb ECC
    Read mechanism 400 nm laser:
    1× @ 36 Mbit/s (4.5 MByte/s)
    2× @ 72 Mbit/s (9 MByte/s)
    4× @ 144 Mbit/s (18 MByte/s)
    6× @ 216 Mbit/s[1] (27 MByte/s)
    8× @ 288 Mbit/s (36 MByte/s)
    12× @ 432 Mbit/s (54 MByte/s)
    Developed by Blu-ray Disc Association
    Usage Data storage
    1080p High-definition video High-definition audio
    stereoscopic 3D
    Future Possibility:
    Quad HD
    2160p
    Ultra HD

  142. phranctoast:

    @CAD
    Haven’t we argued this enough?

    DVD read speeds practically get cut in half when double layer discs are used, which a majority of 360 games are.

    Also Blu ray reads with Constant Linear Velocity (CLV)while DVD reads at Constant Angular Velocity (CAV).

    CAV: The drives transfer rate is variable. Information on the inside tracks of the disc is read at approximately half the speed as the information on the outside of the disc.

    CLV: The drives transfer speed is linear or constant regardless of whether information is on the inside tracks of the disc or the outside.

    So a 12X DVD is faster if, its a single layer disc with the information on the outside of the disc.

  143. Wylie77:

    The good news for you two is if Joba doesn’t pitch well, the Yanks will go buy the best pitcher on the market. It’s like the Yanks = Microsoft.
    How ironic!

  144. CAD:

    Thanks Ivan for saying the same thing. Bottom line is the PS3 is 2X end of story.

  145. Roca.:

    CAD fails again!!!

  146. Roca.:

    “Bottom line is the PS3 is 2X end of story”

    2x BD > 12X DVD end of story

    here are more details about it CAD:

    -Data transfer rate (data):
    DVD = 11.08Mbps (1x)
    BD = 36.0Mbps (1x)

    -Data transfer rate (video/audio)
    DVD = 10.08Mbps (<1x)
    BD = 54.0Mbps (1.5x)

  147. phranctoast:

    @Wylie,

    I guess that could only be Cliff Lee now, but I’m worried about his health issues. Mark my words, he wont be a Mariner next year. It sucks that KC locked up Zack Grienke.

    “It’s like the Yanks = Microsoft.
    How ironic!”
    Not really. The Yanks won the World Series in 09, and Sony had the game of the Year and the System of the Year in 09.

  148. Wylie77:

    Phranc, I’m just messin with ya. As a Twins fan I think I should be able to jab at you a little. Who knows maybe we will win one game against you this year!

  149. Roca.:

    Sony = best gaming lineup
    Yankees = best hitting lineup

  150. Roca.:

    I wantn Joe Mauer to the next Yankees catcher

  151. twilight:

    Xbox360 v Ps3–always fun. Xbox360 rules… yeah.

  152. phranctoast:

    @Wylie.

    It’s all good ;)
    Hey. The demo of MLB The Show 2010 has a playoff game with the Yankees vs The Twins.

    Usually they do the World series but I guess since Mauer is on the cover so……..

    “I wantn Joe Mauer to the next Yankees catcher”

    Twins got him for a while.

    I want to see what the Prospect Jesus Montero can do. They are already talking about him DH’in if Nick Johnson gets hurt….let me correct that…When NJ gets hurt..

  153. Roca.:

    **Blu-ray sales increase nearly 70% in Q1 2010**

    http://playstation.joystiq.com/2010/04/07/blu-ray-sales-increase-nearly-70-in-q1-2010/

  154. Wylie77:

    Yeah, I tried that demo. It was weird, the ump called a ball off from Mauer’s bat foul that was clearly two feet fair. Then Carloz Gomez over ran second and got thrown out. Then Nick Punto ran home and was thrown out even though I was clearly mashing the buttons trying to get him to stop at third. After all of that Joe Nathan comes out onto the hill and blows the whole damn thing. At that point my entire team pissed their pants and went home!

  155. phranctoast:

    “After all of that Joe Nathan comes out onto the hill and blows the whole damn thing.”

    As far as late 09 that Sounds very realistic ;)

  156. Wylie77:

    Oh yeah, and Mauer is ours for the next nine years.

    By the way, the way it looked in the pre season games, the ball at the new Target Field (or “The Bullseye” as I call it) is gonna carry pretty good. No more white roof to lose a ball in.

  157. twilight:

    Speaking of blu ray, I saw the Lord of the Rings blu the other day. The transfer is underwhelming.

  158. phranctoast:

    Oh Yeah.. I forgot you guys got a new stadium….

    I’m still not too sure how smart it is to not have a Dome in Minnesota. Snow delays and Snow Outs, Instead of just Rain outs/delays.

  159. phranctoast:

    “Speaking of blu ray, I saw the Lord of the Rings blu the other day. The transfer is underwhelming.”

    Did you at least rent, or did you buy :(

  160. twilight:

    Since I got the set for $20 dollars, I went ahead and purchased it.

  161. Ivan_PSP:

    God of War Trilogy Soundtrack is awesome a true must have.

  162. phranctoast:

    Quickly sell it and get some money back.

  163. Wylie77:

    One last thing on baseball then back to video games.

    I’m not too worried about snow outs. The Rockies have more to worry about that than us. It usually gets into the 60′s in April in the Twin Cities. Plus we usually don’t play into late October, so I don’t see that being a problem either. Everyone in Minnesota is happy to finally have outdoor baseball back. They have already sold 2.4 million tickets for this year. Last year they sold 2.6 for the entire season. Okay I’m done.

  164. Roca.:

    “Plus we usually don’t play into late October”

    LMAO….time to become a yankees fan

  165. Wylie77:

    Not going to happen Roca. Twins fans hate the Evil Empire, as well as the Mets, Redsox, and to a lesser degree the Angels. These teams tend to buy our best players out from under us. If we could keep all of our home grown talent and the Yankees were forced to do the same, we would be the one winning the World Series. But, that’s not the world we live in.

  166. ncaissie:

    Did you hear?….theres a food that cuts womens sex drive down 75%…..
    @phranc, what is 70% of none?

  167. Roca.:

    @Wylie77
    the Yankees have/had a pretty good amount of player that came up from their farm system.
    Mariano Rivera
    Jeter
    Posada
    Pettite
    Cano
    Joba
    P.Hughes
    and a switch-pitching pitcher

  168. Wylie77:

    ncaissie
    70% of none is called masterbation.

  169. Wylie77:

    Roca, all good players no doubt. But would they win a world series with just them? I could name enough Twins players we have lost to cancel all those players out except for Jeter and Rivera.

  170. Wylie77:

    Also, I think you cheated. Your switch-pitching pitcher isn’t in the bigs yet. I’ll bet he isn’t going to be switch pitching when he does get to the majors either.

  171. phranctoast:

    I’m interested in seeing how a switch pitcher works with switch hitters.

  172. Liquid:

    oh look HH is NOWHERE to be seen when i told him 09 was the year of the ps3 and so will 10

  173. Ivan_PSP:

    God of War Trilogy Soundtrack
    http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KMYXHJ7T

  174. Happyhockum:

    Just like SDHC cards differ in spec/speed so too some USB flash drives transfer data faster than other flash drives.

    That’s all that caution message is about.

    It has nothing to do with your moronic talk about flash v hard drive.

    But never let it be said that you Pbot f*ckwits won’t bring any of your laughably ill-understood BS to the table just to make your ludicrously feeble PR’ing against the Xbox.

  175. Liquid:

    answer me HH. is it coz Sonys PS3 outsold Microshafts shitbox plz fix me by 2million units in worldwide sales that u wont ?

    wake up.

    LMAO

    thats ludicrous isnt it?

    idiot shill

    *taking off HH’s writing style*

  176. FahKinSuPah:

    @ncaissie

    “Did you hear?….theres a food that cuts womens sex drive down 75%…..
    @phranc, what is 70% of none?”

    Nothing cuts down a womans sex drive like marriage.

    Bottom line is, guys who want to get laid should never get married

  177. Liquid:

    awh is the poor baby ignoring me coz i upset him in december? i must of really humiliated you if it took u three months “on holiday” (pfft yea right) to recover from HUMILIATION

    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

  178. Ivan_PSP:

    FahKinSuPah:
    LoL

  179. Wylie77:

    @ Phranc

    Believe it or not, I heard the other day that there is already a rule in the rule book that says a pitcher can only switch once per batter. This is due to the fear of a switch batter switching sides every pitch causing the pitcher to do the same and it being a never ending cycle.

  180. phranctoast:

    @Happy

    What’s faster.
    A USB flash drive or an Internal HDD?

    What would be better to play games on demand with.
    A USB flash drive or an Internal HDD?

  181. phranctoast:

    @Wylie
    Yeah. I looked that up after I asked…
    It looks like it was created because of this guy. It sounds rather unfair for the pitcher as switch hitting is more common so a SH will always win in the battle of better stance. It sounds like it will only be effective against batters that aren’t SH’s

  182. FahKinSuPah:

    @phranc

    “What’s faster.
    A USB flash drive or an Internal HDD?”

    USB 3.0 would be nice lmao

  183. Wylie77:

    HH- if it works so great than why are you pissing and moaning so much? You are calling people f^ckwits just for questioning the USB on a video game consol. Take a deep breath and relax. As long as your 360 is still working you have nothing to be so upset about.

  184. Ivan_PSP:

    http://geohotps3.blogspot.com/
    New update for hacking
    God of War Trilogy Soundtrack
    megaupload.com/?d=KMYXHJ7T

    Geohot
    youtube.com/watch?v=1-9wLWQ4-uA

  185. Happyhockum:

    Wylie77

    The point is the whining and pant-wetting over Microsoft offering their own USB drive when anyone can use any USB drive.

    USB drives do differ in spec and naturally they (Microsoft) would like to sell your their own brand (just like ever other CE producer – and just like ever other CE producer you’ll more often than not find the own-branded product is the more pricey…..well boo hoo hoo, the world isn’t sweetness and light. Grow up)

    Nevertheless the fact is anyone can use any flash drive up to 2 x 16gb.

    However you try and bash it that is a noice expansion in usability.
    Especially for those Arcade guys who do not have a hard drive.

    The rest is just the typical ridiculous quibbling infantile Pbot BS afflicting these boards
    (and wrecking the site).

  186. Ivan_PSP:

    I don’t need a USB for my PS3 since i got 500GB HDD and a a Xbox 1 with a modified 250GB HDD and a 500GB HDD PS2 modded.

    Fuck Microsoft.

  187. Ivan_PSP:

    Purported hack brings Linux back to the PS3
    http://news.cnet.com/8301-27076_3-20001962-248.html

  188. Happyhockum:

    I use my 250gb SE hard drive (before that I used a 60gb & 120gb version).

    I have always been able to use a 500gb external drive (for pics, music & movies – format with hfs+ & there is no 4gb file size limit = nice for HD film encodes) and the Xbox is an excellent unit for streaming with my PC(s).

    Still, if I owned an Arcade & needed backup space 32gbs of cheap flash drive space is a nice new development.

  189. Ivan_PSP:

    You can add this HDD on PS2 and Xbox by modifying the console. 1.5 TB.

    seagate.com/www/en-us/products/internal-storage/barracuda-7200-kit/

    256 GB SSD for PC

  190. Ultima:

    That message is the proof of m$ failure to be a decent company.

  191. twilight:

    The arcade Xbox360 does give you enough memory to save the Nxe and a truckload of games. It would be cool though if they let you do a little more stuff without forcing you to get hardrive.

  192. phranctoast:

    @Happy

    You failed to answer two simple questions.

    Continue with the fanboys this and fanboys that. It’s comical to say the least.

  193. Ivan_PSP:

    Microsoft is Sony’s little bitch. E3 will once again be rule by Sony like always. Can’t to this new E3 event live from PlayStation Home.

  194. twilight:

    I can’t wait to see what happens at E3. I am looking forward to hearing presentations from both companies.

  195. Ivan_PSP:

    twilight:
    Me too i was even thinking of going i already have my pass in case i wanna to go since like 2004. Sony is going to buried Microsoft alive for sure.

  196. Happyhockum:

    phranctoast

    FFS man have a little dignity huh?
    The Xbox side stopped playing your idiot games some time back.
    Stop begging.
    Those days are gone.

  197. Roca.:

    “Idiot shill”

    lmaooo……good one liquid

  198. twilight:

    Ivan,
    If you get a chance, you may want to go.

  199. Ivan_PSP:

    twilight:
    Well i have the time and the money. But i think this is too much maybe going is tempting i know.

    Microsoft’s E3 will be just like the pass couple years have been pure failures. Xbox 360 nerds all they want is Gears of War 3 and maybe Halo the rest is all trash for them they all about shooters. NATAL is already a failure on everyone’s eyes.

  200. Rhino:

    I’m waiting for CAD to proclaim how this is another innovation by MS.

    What…silence…well fuck me.

    By the way has anyone heard the new album by Slash…Fergie has a fucking rock voice!!!!

    Usually I want to bash my head against a brick wall till I sound like CAD/Greenberg when she sings, but she really fucking rocks on that album.

  201. Rhino:

    Plus it has a ripper song with Aussies own Andrew Stockdale

  202. Liquid:

    HH

    answer my question you fucking hypocrite

  203. RomasantaMC:

    Happy you have yet to contribute to the conversation.

  204. Spideydog:

    “Spidy why go through the hassel. Just connect to LIVE and update.”

    @CAD – 1. Don’t have a ethernet cable long enough to reach the router 2. don’t have a crossover cable to connect to laptop to use wifi & 3. Don’t have the 360 wireless adaptor.

    So sadly, I have to download and update ;( The other day when you saw me online, I had a borrowed wifi adaptor.

  205. phranctoast:

    @happy

    in typical internet thug fashion, once you’re intellectually challenged you resort to name calling and insults. How refreshing.

  206. CAD:

    Spidy

    A small network cable is cheap if you want to connect to you laptop for less then $20 and you can find them a around $10.

  207. phranctoast:

    http://www.monoprice.com, if you want to spend less money.

  208. Roca.:

    “A small network cable is cheap if you want to connect to you laptop for less then $20 and you can find them a around $10.”

    like I said CAD, that’s extra money someone have to spend because there is no buil-in wifi on the 360

  209. Happyhockum:

    phranctoast

    Excuse me as I laugh at you whining about my supposed name calling….as you then go on to call me names.

    The reason your stupid question got ignored is because it is a stupid & irrelevant question.

    An Arcade owner (possibly already owning several flash drive units – of various brands, non of which is likely to be the Sandisk/Microsoft one) is hardly interested in whether the flash unit is slower than a hard drive (or not).

    This is merely a welcome expansion in usability for them.

    It is not the basis of a typically childish & idiotically quibbling debate for Pbot fanboys who seem desperate to comment so much about it, whining & doing anything to pick & carp about it.

    Roca

    What happens to this ‘pay a larger initial pricve but then spend no more money with the Sony’ ideal if you live in a bigger older (solid) house with inconvenient wi-fi dead spots?
    Many people do you know.

  210. Happyhockum:

    (and why should I be forced to pay for wi-fi I don’t want or need)?

  211. Roca.:

    @Happy
    nobody is forcing you, it comes for free. if you dont want it or need it then don’t use it. simple as that.

    dead spots, get up to date dude, we are in 2010 already, with a good wireless router and a solid signal you will be fine. maybe poeple have many devices that can connect to the internet and wifi is the best option. why are you so against it? is it because it comes for free on the PS3 (just like Bluray)? moblie phones, DS, PSP, PS3 and even TVs (recent ones) comes with it for free

    who doesnt want free stuff? but I guess you want to be loyal to microshaft

  212. Happyhockum:

    Roca

    Seriously, only an idiot would think the wi-fi is “free”.
    It isn’t.

    You are paying for it & if you don’t need it you are paying for something you neither want or need.

    Wake up.

  213. phranctoast:

    “Excuse me as I laugh at you whining about my supposed name calling….as you then go on to call me names.”

    No I didn’t.
    Unless Internet Thug (a true observation btw) is name calling.
    f*ckwit, moronic, idiot, pbots, fanboys. etc fall into the name calling category.
    Since you’ve been back, you have barely added to any topic while crying about the site and flexing your internet muscles while insulting most other members.

    USB is inherently slower than internal drives. Games may not perform (like games on demand, arcade) As they would on a internal HDD. Hence the “performance issues”. This is far from a “moronic” observation.

    USB may be great for storing your gamertag but not so great at storing games to run them off of.

    This was also pointed out when I mentioned USB 1.0 vs 2.0 and getting a better understanding of what Microsoft’s message was getting at.

    It appears at first that they are playing a bullying tactic to sell their proprietary product, as you also admitted to.

    “USB drives do differ in spec and naturally they (Microsoft) would like to sell your their own brand (just like ever other CE producer – and just like ever other CE producer you’ll more often than not find the own-branded product is the more pricey…..well boo hoo hoo, the world isn’t sweetness and light. Grow up)”

    The more I look at this topic the more I see that both you and CAD are seriously lacking in the reading comprehension skills department.

    “An Xbox story with Pbots all over it pretending that ‘ordinary’ USB flash drives might not work after the latest update just enabled them.”

    At no point did anyone pretend that ordinary USB devices wouldn’t work. It must be nice to construct these false arguments to justify your pouting. Let out the steam there..no one said any such thing.

  214. phranctoast:

    “Roca

    Seriously, only an idiot would think the wi-fi is “free”.
    It isn’t.

    You are paying for it & if you don’t need it you are paying for something you neither want or need.

    Wake up.”

    Maybe that argument held water when a 120GB PS3 wasn’t the same price as a 120GB Xbox360. ($299.00)

    With the purchase of a PS3 you still get wi fi and blu ray, where with the purchase of a 360, you get a headset.

  215. Roca.:

    “Seriously, only an idiot would think the the headset on the 360 is “free”

    LOL, stupid blind troll
    here is some logic for you

    360 = $300 [no wifi + no BD player]
    PS3 = $300 [wifi + bluray player]

    if it not ‘free’ then should we say MS is overcharging you guys for the shitty 360 console?
    (HH will most likely ignore the logic and the question)

  216. CAD:

    Happy let them spread their bullshit and Propaganda because I’ve tested it fully and have no issues. The games play flawless. Sony still trying to figure out how to stream 1080P, have cross game chat, Get Netflix off the disk and the great list of features it will copy in the future. LOL

    The Funny thing is you can hook up a Exteranl HD to the PS3 and it works so why would it not work for the 360. Because PS3 Fanboys are idiots who have Sony’s cock in Mouth and Ass all day long.

  217. phranctoast:

    “Happy let them spread their bullshit and Propaganda because I’ve tested it fully and have no issues.”

    You said you have the warning though CAD. If yours works fine, than why should you have received a warning when setting it up?
    This is the exact reason why people are in this topic giving MS some hell. Because they fucking lie.

    “The Funny thing is you can hook up a Exteranl HD to the PS3 and it works so why would it not work for the 360. ”

    Just like Happy, you appear to be constructing defense to arguments that no one is making!!!

  218. Roca.:

    “The Funny thing is you can hook up a Exteranl HD to the PS3 and it works so why would it not work for the 360″

    you can’t saved/run games off of a external HHD on the PS3 because you have the ability to purchase a 500GB internal HDD for about the same price MS charges for a 16GB flash drive. so no issues there :)

  219. RomasantaMC:

    @Roca
    you forgot to mention the same priced internal Harddrive seeks at 7200rpm instead of the standard 5400.

  220. Roca.:

    ……just like I said, HH will ignore the question.

  221. phranctoast:

    And call YOU an idiot…

    and they say we’re ruining this site *rolls eyes*

  222. RomasantaMC:

    @Roca
    No he’ll wait till the news is obsolete/old then post one last flamebait comment as if somehow that means he wins.

  223. phranctoast:

    “No he’ll wait till the news is obsolete/old then post one last flamebait comment as if somehow that means he wins.”

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

    I thought that was only Carlb. He had an debate going on for two weeks because he refused to admit he was wrong and had to have the last word.

    He won. I gave up. :)

  224. Roca.:

    “I thought that was only Carlb. He had an debate going on for two weeks because he refused to admit he was wrong and had to have the last word.

    He won. I gave up.”

    LMFAO….I remember that one!

  225. ncaissie:

    It’s as CAD’s teachers say, “you can’t teach idiots”.

  226. Happyhockum:

    Ah well there you go, you 3 at least agree with each other.
    Try not to bore each other or turn on each other too much.

  227. RomasantaMC:

    So are you “Not playing anymore”,
    Thank you for leaving.

  228. Happyhockum:

    RomasantaMC

    Unlike some I don’t make grand ‘I’m leaving’ comments……… and then show up again within hours/days.

    I’ll nip in and out of whatever threads I please.

    Not playing anymore refers to the idiot game the Pbots invariably indulge in.
    I’m done helping bored kids either at school or stacking shleves in the 1st job out of school (you’re not trying to tell us any of them are actually adults, are you?) get through their –
    whatever it is they do that is so obviously so soul-destroying –
    days.

  229. Ivan_PSP:

    Xbots are literally crying like little kids LMFAO.

    PLAYSTATION 3 is the king of awesome everything.

  230. Spideydog:

    @CAD
    Yeah I will have to pick up a cable, just can’t be arsed at the moment :P

  231. RomasantaMC:

    “Unlike some I don’t make grand ‘I’m leaving’ comments……… and then show up again within hours/days.”

    *continued from his full page rant about HD/DVD……
    “Sorry guys, the level of ‘debate’ here from too many is way to obvious & just too pathetic.
    Not playing anymore.”
    *the next day he posted replying to fahkinsupah’s comment on….. you guessed it HD/DVDs

    I continually reminded him that he hasn’t been playing but continues to post about HD/DVD, he currently is at 13posts after he said he was’nt playing.
    He keeps frequenting the site even though several times he even insists it has become dull/boring (line breaks removed cause their pointless.)
    “LMAO
    You can smell the desperation & boredom.
    You made this place what it now is, congratulate yourselves.
    Shame you’ve just made it so deadly dull, eh?”

    “I’ll nip in and out of whatever threads I please.”
    and so you do happy after you consistanly declare how shitty this site is, post small pointless comments and fluff them up with unnecessary line breaks and how you are going to leave us(PBots) alone to ourselves.

    Your best regards
    Roma

  232. Rhino:

    @CAD “The Funny thing is you can hook up a Exteranl HD to the PS3 and it works so why would it not work for the 360.” It does work, but MS in their infinite innovative wisdom have limited you blind fanboys to 16GB. Yep…that there is some great fucking innovation there!!

    “Because PS3 Fanboys are idiots who have Sony’s cock in Mouth and Ass all day long.” And hows your ass feeling after having to pay for all the add-ons, gold membership etc? Pretty fucking loose and squishy I bet.

  233. harry sachz:

    My 1TB hard drive has always worked on my 360. You just have to format it to FAT32.

  234. Roca.:

    @HH
    so if wifi is not free on the PS3 then MS is overcharging for the 360 console? what are your thoughts

  235. Happyhockum:

    harry

    You might like to try formatting your Xbox external hard drive to hfs+
    (see here h**p://w*w.360-hq.com/xbox-tutorials-60.html).

    You’ll then lose the FAT32 4gb file size limit.
    So you can download .wmv (Xbox friendly) HD encodes, usually @ around 8gb size. Some of them are done to a very high quality.

    Roca

    I can’t speak for US pricing but here in Europe my 250gb Jasper Super Elite was less than the cost of the 120gb PS3 slim.
    My console came with a 2nd wireless controller and Forza 3.

    So now what?

  236. Happyhockum:

    …..oh, and that’s a ‘bare’ PS3 slim.
    No 2nd controller & no latest game.

  237. Roca.:

    “My console came with a 2nd wireless controller and Forza 3.
    so now what”

    that bundled cost $400 here in the US, that is $100 more than a PS3 and still with no wifi or optical HD player.

    my friend bought a PS3 Slim (with wifi and BD player built-in) bundled with Ratchet + Clank 2 and LBP GOTY for just $300.

    either way, the point that I’m trying to make is that wifi & BD player comes for “free” on the PS3

  238. phranctoast:

    As if right now in the US, there is
    the:
    PS3 Slim($299)
    (Wi-Fi)(Blu Ray)

    vs

    The Xbox 360 Elite ($299)-Spring Bundle
    (Headset)(Forza 3)(Halo ODST)

    Amazon has the PS3 Slim in the Top 10 [5 right now] (and it’s been that way for a while now)

    -360 Wireless adapter is ranked 26 ( I guess people want it huh?)
    -The 360 Elite is not in the top 100 right now.

    Not to take anything away from the Xbox 360 bundle as those games are well reviewed, and sold well, but I question the choice of bundling sequels to games that are already out this gen. If you are an Xbox user and have yet to make the “next gen” jump, would you want to start with sequels or the first game released on that platform? (read. Halo 3 and Forza 2)
    Microsoft could probably save money in this instance and package the older games, and then count on the sales at a later date for the newer ones. That would be good in a business sense.

  239. phranctoast:

    Happy,

    If your argument is that you have to pay for wi fi or BRD regardless if you want it, can’t the same argument be made for Forza 3 and ODST? What if a new 360 purchaser has no interest in those titles? (I know I don’t).

    btw
    Halo ODST is ranked 65 and Forza 3 is not in the top 100 at all.

    So if Amazon is any indication of what gamers want, The wireless network connection being ranked at 26 speaks volumes.

  240. Happyhockum:

    phranctoast

    I could.
    The thing is I wanted a 2nd controller & I wanted that game.
    I also wanted the 250gb hard drive.

    In Europe at least, compatred to the bare 120gb PS3 slim (which had just had it’s price cut remember) the Xbox was far and away the better deal.

    Especially as I do not want to be paying for another Blu-ray player or wi-fi.

    I’d not read too much into Amazon rankings btw.
    Top 100 of what btw?
    There are so many catagories.
    I know it’s now convenient for the Sony fans to quote them but it’s a fact that Toshiba’s A2, A3, A20, A30 & A35 models were all in that top 20 for many months (the A2 & 3 held the number one electrical – any catagory – for more than a full year).

    Do the ‘electrical – any catagory’ top 100 and you won’t find anything game related.

    (although, just for Ivan, it is well populated with Apple’s stuff :P )

  241. phranctoast:

    Well more proof of different strokes for different folks.

    Value is in the eye of the beholder.

    At the time I picked up a PS3 (600+w tax), I felt it was totally worth it as I was in the market for a blu ray player and had interest in the PS brand due to past games.

    I also picked up an extra controller. Not for another person to play, but for another one to charge while I was playing.

  242. gunstar:

    At Sony Style saw the game in real time playback and the realism is unreal!

  243. phranctoast:

    What game is that gunstar?

  244. phranctoast:

    “I’d not read too much into Amazon rankings btw.
    Top 100 of what btw?”

    Out of all video games, consoles, and video game peripherals.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=pd_ts_zgc_vg_video_games_display_on_website_more?pf_rd_p=475985451&pf_rd_s=right-5&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=468642&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1EJT80M146QD6FNSNHK1

  245. Happyhockum:

    Yeah, I thought it’d be saomething like that.

    In otherwords a sub-division of a sub-division.
    So it’s the results of an even smaller pool/set of data to consider.

    Like I said phranctoast, don’t go reading that much into those numbers.

    Toshiba had their A2 & A3 HD DVD players as Amazons number 1 electrical selling item in their entire inventory for well over a year
    (almost the entire time those models were out on sale).
    …..and you know how that added up to very little in the end.

  246. Roca.:

    @HH
    “In Europe at least, compatred to the bare 120gb PS3 slim (which had just had it’s price cut remember) the Xbox was far and away the better deal.”

    apperantly that only applies to you, because since the release of the PS3 slim, the PS3 passed the 360 in unit sold in EU and has been outselling it ever since.

    you forgot to answer this
    do ppl pay extra for those bundled games and headset?

  247. phranctoast:

    @Happy

    I wouldn’t go looking to deep into those numbers for the sheer fact that they fluctuate on a daily/hourly basis.
    As the numbers I told you about this morning have already changed.

    That said, I would never dismiss it simply because it’s a “sub division of a sub division”…

    It’s video games, consoles, and peripherals. What else do we talk about here on Blorge? As far as we’re concerned, its the only category ;)

  248. ncaissie:

    “In otherwords a sub-division of a sub-division.
    So it’s the results of an even smaller pool/set of data to consider.”

    LOL and the elite is still not there. I see the arcade at 50. Does that sting HH? LOL

  249. phranctoast:

    btw,
    Thats interesting Toshiba data. I wish I was paying more attention to that at the time.

    Is that based off of memory or do you have a link to a story?
    I only ask because The HD DVD group has went on record to say that in it’s lifetime, they sold 1 million HD DVD players (which include the 360 add on).

    Being that, Amazon is only one retailer it brings questions to the table. Maybe electronics isn’t a very popular item sold there….

  250. RomasantaMC:

    @phranc
    you keep this up and he’s gonna go emo.

    (thanks wylie)

  251. phranctoast:

    Amazon data was also used as there is nothing else I can get my hands on instantaneously to make a point in to the topic we were discussing.

    At the time of out discussion by checking that data it was shown that “right now” wi fi is indeed important to the 360 users. Enough were they were purchasing it more at “that time” than the games packaged with the elite.

  252. Happyhockum:

    phranctoast

    Unless you can find an archive of old Amazon data you’ve no chance of getting anything substantive on that.

    Believe me or not, it’s up to you.

    RomasantaMC

    You reveal yourself & your objectives & motives with every word.
    You sad, pathetic and utterly laughable juvenile troll.

  253. Roca.:

    phranc said
    as of right now, the wifi adaptor is selling better than ODST and forza 3 which shows how important wifi is and it is not ‘free’ for 360 users

  254. RomasantaMC:

    @Happy
    I’m trolling you because your a hypocritical douchebag.
    And while I understand that you don’t reply to my troll posts you dodge any real question I’ve ever put up like all of the other’s queries on your statements with impratical posts. I’ll stop trolling if you stop, either defend your responses or give up. Don’t respond with some bizarre jackass comment that has no relation to the questions that are asked.

  255. Happyhockum:

    RomasantaMC

    Sorry you must be confusing me with someone who gives a sh!te.

  256. RomasantaMC:

    You gave enough shit to reply, sadly not enough to post a reasonable response to anyone’s posts.

  257. phranctoast:

    No need get teste ;) I just figured you got that from somewhere
    and weren’t monitoring amazon sales for a full year.

  258. Happyhockum:

    phranctoast

    Nothing teste about it.
    I’m just putting it as honestly as I can, it’s up to you whether you believe it or not.
    At this stage I cannot give anything so that it can be proved either way
    (unless someone keeps an archive of that sales data – and someone somewhere probably does)

  259. Roca.:

    how come you claim no one needs wifi with out a archive of data to back it up….Hypocrite

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