Greenberg: Milo never to be released for Kinect
Last year Microsoft wowed E3 attendees with a demonstration of Milo. The demo was considered to be the most impressive showing from Microsoft’s press conference. However, it appears that this game may never see the light of day.
When Milo was revealed at E3, many were amazed by the technology as the artificial boy seemed to recognize what you were saying and doing. However, the demo did receive some criticism from other journalists such as Shane Satterfield, Spike’s Vice President of Content and editor-in-chief of Gametrailer. Satterfield called the demo for Milo all “smoke and mirrors.â€
After some hands on time with Milo, he stated:
All I’m going to say about Milo is that its not legit. There were a lot of smoke and mirrors going on there, not the case with the ball demo [Ricochet] and the other stuff but with Milo there was definitely a little bit of deception going on.
It may come as a shock that Milo & Kate will never come to the Xbox 360 or retail for that matter. According to Xbox boss Aaron Greenberg, Milo is not a game that Microsoft plans on bringing to the market.
According to CVG, Greenberg told TV show Good Game:
Last year we unveiled the Project Natal technology, we showed a bunch of technology demos as part of that.
And obviously [Milo] is a technology demo that continues to exist, but right now it’s not a game that we’re planning to bring to market.
This statement sort of contradicts
what Peter Molyneux has been saying all month long. He stated that Milo was 10 times better than it was last year and also that there is whole team of people working on it.
Molyneux is even set to demo Milo next month at TEDGlobal seminar on stage. Curiously Molyneux has only been demoing Milo to celebrities and in a limited fashion.
I suppose both Molyneux and Greenberg could be correct, that Milo will continue to exist but as a tech demo for trade shows like TEDGlobal. I know this news will be a bummer to those wanting to get their hands on this pre-pubescent virtual boy.
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June 30th, 2010
@ mike,
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/06/no-project-milo-is-coming-to-the-xbox-just-not-this-year/
June 30th, 2010
So they (xbots) may not “get their hands on this pre-pubescent virtual boy”, but they still get to smack balls?
June 30th, 2010
LOL@GT5er
Maybe even MS realizes this idea is creepy as hell.
hmmm Smoke and Mirrors. Kind of reminds me of the whole Kinetic show.
June 30th, 2010
::::::::::Kinect Specs Reveal Two Player Limitation::::::::::::
“Kinetic tracks up to six people at a time, it is only capable of tracking two “active players.”
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3180165
June 30th, 2010
While I really don’t care too much about the whole kinect thing and could care less about Milo they should at least put what they have of it on XLBA as a free DL or something. At least let people see it for themselves.
@Roca
I finally started playing CoD:WaW yesterday… OMFG! I got my nephew to check out Nazi Zombies with me! lmao is that mode fucking awsome.
June 30th, 2010
They truly deserve the name Microshaft.
LMFO Did any reay think MS could pull that off? LMAO Fucking fools.
June 30th, 2010
“So they (xbots) may not “get their hands on this pre-pubescent virtual boyâ€, but they still get to smack balls?”
They want the name sexbots.
June 30th, 2010
“@Roca
I finally started playing CoD:WaW yesterday… OMFG! I got my nephew to check out Nazi Zombies with me! lmao is that mode fucking awsome.”
LOL yes it is. did you get the PS3 version?
June 30th, 2010
Nah, I had gotten the 360 version awhile ago, back in march when gamestop had the gamedays sale going on. They didn’t even have the PS3 version in then and I had gotten the last 360 one they had.
June 30th, 2010
We had played that for awhile before doing a couple campaign mission on co-op… he needs to get a copy of it now lol. It sucks playing all that on split screen.
We just had too much fun killing those damn nazi zombies though lol. I gotta get used to it. We almost cleared wave 4.. thats as far as we got lol
June 30th, 2010
Yeah, we got our asses handed to us. I don’t recall if we even made it to wave 4. lol
June 30th, 2010
Get the map pac 3. It is great if you get guys that coordinate.
June 30th, 2010
phranc, ncaissie, and roca
I know all 3 of you have it for PS3. I might have to see if I can find a cheap copy of it for ps3 just so i can team up with you guys lmao.
Just playing it for a little while with my nephew was a blast. It really sucked having to go split screen on my tv though. at least if my nephew gets a copy we can do system link.
What gets me is that they just gang up on your so fast in waves 3 and 4 lol. Not only that but they just take you out faster than getting shot by just about anything in the normal game.
Speaking of which im over halfway through the campaign mode on normal difficulty already. Might end up finishing it today
June 30th, 2010
I just checked Amazon, and seen a few people have it up for PS3 for under $20. If i have some extra money on friday after i do my bills i might order it
June 30th, 2010
When you play 4 people you can get to ware 15+
And the Map in 3 is huge.
It’s a blast.
June 30th, 2010
ware = wave
June 30th, 2010
Its been awhile since I played CoD4:MW… i forgot how awsome the CoD franchise had become. Now i definately have to get MW2
Any of you guys have either Modern Warfare game?
June 30th, 2010
I borrowed MW2 from my nephew. It was good for co-op.
June 30th, 2010
MW had an awsome campaign mode and some tight gameplay, and online was fun as shit too.
I don’t have MW2 yet but I definately want it. I might have to get it sometimes before Black ops comes out
June 30th, 2010
@FahKin
Nazi Zombie is the only good thing CoD: WaW…love that mode….I’ll buy any CoD game if it has Nazi Zombies on it…hopefully we’ll be able to play together, we always end up teaming up with a bunch of faggs.
June 30th, 2010
COD4: MW was fun because it was the reboot of the franchise, WaW and MW2 are just rehashed from COD4
June 30th, 2010
@Roca
As I mentioned I am like halfway through the campaign mode and I actually think they game isn’t half bad. although Nazi Zombies is DEFINATELY the best part lmao.
You guys ever notice that it is easier to hit a jap in the head from like 50 yards away in campaign mode than it is to headshot a zombie from 5 feet away in nazi zombies? Or is it just me? lol
June 30th, 2010
“You guys ever notice that it is easier to hit a jap in the head from like 50 yards away in campaign mode than it is to headshot a zombie from 5 feet away in nazi zombies? Or is it just me? lol”
It’s not just you. lol
June 30th, 2010
“It’s not just you. lol”
Oh good… and here I thought maybe the smaller resolution with the split screen had something to do with it lmao.
It was really weird cause instead of splitting the screen into top and bottom or left and right it does some odd boxes that are on the left and right of the screen and they don’t even take up the full side top to bottom .. I dunno how else to explain it
June 30th, 2010
@Fahkin
“We almost cleared wave 4.. thats as far as we got lol”
sadly for you two players will not get much further than that
June 30th, 2010
@Roca
Well with enough practice and teamwork I am sure my nephew and I will get to wave 5 lmao. It seems like if you can clear both couches and open that door the zombies will be easier to avoid.
Although the down side to that is they can come in from both sides easier lol
June 30th, 2010
If Kinect is only for two players to be actively participating (but tracks up to 6 for whatever reason) then the $150 is not that much of a deal compared to purchasing two sets of Move gear. At least with move you aren’t limited to 2, and price is scalable. The only way Kinect could possibly win a price war with Move now is if they release a single player only version for half the price. Even then we would only be looking at a few dollars difference.
Yet another crippling limitation on a pre-crippled peripheral.
In the words of the thankfully mortal HH:
“pathetic”
June 30th, 2010
“Yet another crippling limitation on a pre-crippled peripheral.”
So in other words we end up with the best of Timmy and Jimmy put together in one retarded package?
“Do you like fish sticks?”
June 30th, 2010
Cripple Fight!!!!!!!!
June 30th, 2010
@Jofa
Kinetic tracks only two players at the same time, while you can have a 6-player game but they have to take turns. the Camara can only tracks 20 joints per active player and 40 points total and the camara itself is limited to 30fps unlinke the PS Eye camara which can go up to 60fps.
June 30th, 2010
here is a more detailed explanation of what Jofa is talking about:
“Another spec noted is that the cameras are at two resolutions (320×240 and 640×480 in high color) and send a datastream with a 30FPS refresh rate. That means that your movements will always be a couple frames behind (33ms at minimum), especially if you’re playing a game with a high refresh rate. And the rather low resolution means that more subtle movements like finger motions or slight changes in foot position are likely never to be implemented. Usually low pixel resolution allows for better temporal resolution (i.e. faster refresh) but they seem to have neither here”
June 30th, 2010
That all sounds pretty shitty… Well the whole project still have some potential, but it just depends on how it gets used by MS and Devs.
Unfortunately it will probably be used the wrong way and it will be home to a ton of shit-ware like the Wii.
Also I said this before, Molyneaux (however you spell his fucking name) is trying to champion the “handjob” (Yeah, I still think it should be called that) and he is probably going to try and find a way to put it in something like Fable 3.
June 30th, 2010
ncaissie
“They truly deserve the name Microshaft.”
Wow, you sound really upset Milo isn’t coming to Xbox.
What’s it to you?
June 30th, 2010
“Wow, you sound really upset Milo isn’t coming to Xbox.
What’s it to you?”
Believe it or not, Not very xbox owner is a fuckin retard like you. So I do have friends and family that have 360s. I don’t like them getting it in the ass from MS. I know you enjoy it but you are not normal.
June 30th, 2010
@Ncaissie
He’s upset at you because he really wants to believe their shaft is anything but micro
June 30th, 2010
LOL Probably
June 30th, 2010
“I know you enjoy it”
you have to understand he enjoys getting paid, getting that “earned in-cum” check from MS
seriously now, Milo looked fake as shit and MS promoted it as a killer app…even Molyneaux talked it up. But I guess it was all BS from MS again, like Phranc said:
“Smoke and Mirrors. Kind of reminds me of the whole Kinetic show.”
you have to wonder why we never heard about Milo since then. Knowing MS I always thought MS would use Milo to rip ppl off, like having Milo constantly ask gamers for MS points so he could buy virtual food, clothes etc, and if you wanted online features for Milo you have to get him his own Gold subscribtion LOL
I guess Milo became Kineticmals?
June 30th, 2010
I really hope this is true (it’s not coming out. Molyneux is one seriously creepy guy. Really, who would want to play a game w/ virtual creepy boy & girl.
They probably found him jerking off to it in a back room or something.
They canned it when they found out he wanted to call it Petachild.
I could go on & on…
June 30th, 2010
If enjoyed listening to Molyneaux in interviews because he seems like a very personable guy and he’s kind of funny.
He does like many people here (jofa) have mentioned, talk out of his ass when it comes to his games and what we can expect from them.
“He stated that Milo was 10 times better than it was last year ”
Here’s a good example. Even Happy can’t argue he’s not blowing smoke.
June 30th, 2010
‘Prototype tech demonstator fails to make market, for now’
The horror.
Grow up.
June 30th, 2010
Just one more example of the MS BS.
June 30th, 2010
A lot like you HH.
HH = BS and MS = BS so I guess HH = MS?
June 30th, 2010
logic fails to compute
June 30th, 2010
“Curiously Molyneux has only been demoing Milo to celebrities and in a limited fashion.”
He should show it to Angelina Jolie. She’ll adopt enough for even Fable 4 to have a chance at being made.
June 30th, 2010
Smoke and mirrors… Killzone 2 anyone?
June 30th, 2010
KZ2 is a good example, but at least the actual gameplay was right up there with what they demoed.
June 30th, 2010
twilight seriously stop licking the ass off the xbots. . .its getting annoying now
June 30th, 2010
Exposed: Natal Milo smoke and mirrors by Peter Molyneux
“Spike’s VP of Content and editor-in-chief of Gamestrailers, Shane Satterfield, indicated recently along with his peers that there was a bit of deception with Milo behind the scenes after demoing it. He stated that the select few to demo Milo live behind closed doors were instructed by Microsoft to follow exactly what was shown in the video. Satterfield also stated that there definitely is someone “controlling†(influencing) Milo behind the scenes.”
He states:
“All I’m going to say about Milo is that its not legit”
http://gamer.blorge.com/2009/06/07/exposed-natel-milo-smoke-and-mirrors-by-peter-molyneux/
June 30th, 2010
Wow, I never realised just how much the Pbot crowd were looking forward to Milo.
What a pity for them that such an advanced prototype (as was made very clear at the time) isn’t coming.
Yet.
Maybe you’s could start a letter-writing campaign or something?
Typical pathetic Pbots.
Any old tiny straw, no matter how feeble & ludicrous, huh?.
June 30th, 2010
KZ2 is still the best looking FPS…Must have been some good quality smoke and mirrors. whatever it takes to produce the best looking game in its genre is cool with me…..fake shit and lies is not.
June 30th, 2010
“sadly for you two players will not get much further than that”
what? me and my cuz got to level 27 on the first map. instead of opening the door into the random box, open the stairs in the first room, go up and den open the stairs down into the random box room but dont open the door. the zombies mainly just walk down the stairs. . the PTR-S Sniper is really handy for that. . one shot kill till about wave 13
June 30th, 2010
Actually at the time nobody said that Milo was up and running on an Xbox as if it was ready to go to market.
The only people here whining about this are, once again, the Pbot gang.
So much time spent agonising over Xbox and Microsoft.
Chr!st on a bike, go get a girl or get into sports something ya tedious adolescent fanboy tw@ts.
June 30th, 2010
@happy
Rather than your pathetic attempt at making this all about the people posting (once again) you could….hmm.. I don’t know, have an actual counterpoint.
I’ll use what I first said as an example.
Me:
“Maybe even MS realizes this idea is creepy as hell.”
You:
No phranc.. It’s not creepy as hell. I like it because…………
or
Me: “hmmm Smoke and Mirrors. Kind of reminds me of the whole Kinetic show.”
You:
No phranc. Smoke and Mirrors. Are you crazy. everything we saw was so legit.
The problem I see here, is you probably agree with us. You can say it if you do
June 30th, 2010
“The only people here whining about this are, once again, the Pbot gang.”
actually your wrong again, its all over the web and the Smoke and mirros (fake stuff) was all over the web last year…not everyone gets fooled by MS like you..
June 30th, 2010
“twilight seriously stop licking the ass off the xbots. . .its getting annoying now”
LOL true
June 30th, 2010
Mr.Terminator,
I’ve joined the dark side. I have to spice things up. It’s boring. I will be supporting the Xbox360 from this point out.
June 30th, 2010
“Mr.Terminator,
I’ve joined the dark side. I have to spice things up. It’s boring. I will be supporting the Xbox360 from this point out.”
I can respect that.
June 30th, 2010
Molyneux defends Milo and Kate: “all that technology does work”
Peter Molyneux, head of Microsoft Game Studios, has confirmed that little-seen Kinect title Milo and Kate is “a full product”, but admits that it has at times proven difficult to convince Microsoft about the project.
Opening the second day of the GameHorizon conference in Gateshead, he said “Milo has been a really hard thing to do and a really hard thing to describe. I have real sympathy for the [Microsoft] people over in Redmond, because they understandably have some questions.
“The biggest challenge for us is convincing people what we’re doing is actually going to work, is going to reach a new audience, is going to be an idea that people love. That for me is a massive challenge. Convincing people what you’re doing is something that can change the world.”
Responding to GamesIndustry.biz’s query about the project’s status following yesterday’s comments (later retracted) by Microsoft’s Aaron Greenberg that it was still a “tech demo,” he was adamant that it was not in any danger.
“Poor Aaron Greenberg – he’s on the PR team, he hasn’t seen it since last year, so he came up with this stock answer that Milo is alive and well and living in Guildford but it’s still a tech demo.
“I feel sorry for him, he hasn’t seen the game since last year. If I had spent time with him and showed him the game recently, he’d know what was going on.”
“All that technology that we showed at E3 last year actually does work,” he promised. Added GameHorizon chair Ian Livingstone OBE, “I’ve seen it. It works, Peter. Honestly.”
Molyneux also revealed that he would be finally unveiling Milo’s current form at the TEDGlobal conference in two weeks.
“This is a full product that we’re working on. It’s not going to be released this year for sure, it’s not part of the launch line-up – I think it would be inappropriate to be so, it’s using Kinect in a very different way which is very sensitive. It is going to be somewhat premiered at this TED talk on Tuesday in two weeks time.”
June 30th, 2010
*yawn*
June 30th, 2010
Thanks for that CarlB, interesting.
So all that gurning, wailing & crying about this from the Pbot gang is based on conflicting info, again.
Good job you idiots don’t have an Xbox….. or really give a flying f*ck about any of this anyways.
phranctoast
Back to defending the indefensible again, eh?
So, why were you lot so bugged by this?
It was (at the time) claimed to be nothing but the most advanced Natal/Kinect tech in it’s most early prototype of the prototype (nevermind pre-production) stages.
It might or might not come this gen.
….and so what?
I do not recall anyone saying this is due on ‘x’ date and people can expect it in the shops then.
I certainly did not and never have seen anything but mild interest from the Xbox owners.
I doubt there’ll be a hoard of Xbox owners now really pi$$ed off Milo might not (or still might) be coming to Xbox.
In short once again we have a bunch of the usual Pbot owners doing their synthetic frothing at the gills about something they couldn’t care less about anyways.
But yeah, my calling that cretinous nonsense out for the idiotic childish trolling it is is the problem here, right?
Spoils the, er, ‘fun’ you lot claim to have over this sort of sh!te, eh?
FFS.
Grow up.
June 30th, 2010
even Peter Molyneux knows that Greenberg is full of shit….that must hurt for HH, Kev and CAD who have defended Greenberg for the longest time.
June 30th, 2010
Sounds like an other example of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.
How could Greenberg be out of touch with this.
The sad thing is, with Molyneux’s past “exaggerations” it’s always difficult to believe what he says.
June 30th, 2010
oh, I forgot to say HH is also full of shit!
source: HH’s last comment
June 30th, 2010
@CAD
Peter Molyneux now:
“The biggest challenge for us is convincing people what we’re doing is actually going to work”
Peter Molyneux then:
“Milo does not actually recognize the player’s voice but reacts to the tone of your voice. He also further explains that Milo says rudimentary open ended statements that will fit into whatever you say”
June 30th, 2010
“But yeah, my calling that cretinous nonsense out for the idiotic childish trolling it is is the problem here, right?
Spoils the, er, ‘fun’ you lot claim to have over this sort of sh!te, eh?
FFS.
Grow up.”
Yep.. It makes you look the most childish here. Everyone sees it. I’m not the only one to call you on it.
so .. yeah. grow up
June 30th, 2010
you should post your you tube link. It applies to you more than anyone I’ve ever encountered.
In fact. Change you’re gravatar you whining baby.
June 30th, 2010
“FFS.
Grow up.”
HH has this set as a signature now.
June 30th, 2010
I found you one.
It also works because it doubles as a little girl
http://www.perform.org.uk/images/uploaded/whining.jpg
June 30th, 2010
LMAO that must be HH.
June 30th, 2010
I’ll save HH some bandwith
Happyhockum:
June 30th, 2010
Pbots
FFS.
Grow up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS7nqwGt4-I
June 30th, 2010
Apparently certain freedoms over in Ireland are different than here in the states.
One can not express an opinion of something without it turning into personal attacks.
It’s my opinion that Milo is creepy as hell. If you don’t like my opinion feel free to share your own.
It is a fact however that MS’s Kinetic show was smoke and mirrors. Everything was pre-recorded to the point of nuseum. Move and wii did like demonstrations at the show. Why couldn’t MS?
It has been stated my others (Spike) that Milo is BS. God forbid anyone point that out.
All we get is Happy having a temper tantrum whining and pretty much saying
“Stop poking fun at Microsoft”
This all gets better because the one guy that should be “in the know” is in the dark.
classic!!!!!
June 30th, 2010
should read
Move and wii did live demonstrations at the show
June 30th, 2010
hey phranc why the fuck do you keep bringin up ireland?? do you really want to get into a debate about america??!! stop bringin up my home country, its getting annoying with your fucking snide remarks
June 30th, 2010
The plain fact is that yous don’t give a sh!te about Xbox or Milo.
You leapt all over this because you imagined it ‘proived’ something bad about Xbox & Milo was going on.
CarlB’s link shows that in fact the original item posted is highly debateable.
So the best you can now come up with is a whine that Greenburg doesn’t know about everything going on with Peter Molyneux & Game Studios.
Well big f*cking deal.
You’re entitled to your opinions (I never once said otherwise).
I am equally entitled to point out todays’ events, where the Pbots once again took up residence all day in yet another Xbox thread and spent hours patheticly whining about something they have no interest in anyways
(besides their usual dreary little infantile hope that they can use this to bash on Microsoft, Xbox and/or Milo/Molyeux)
You’re so boringly predictable.
June 30th, 2010
phranctoast
“It is a fact however that MS’s Kinetic show was smoke and mirrors”
Yeah, cos were there, had access to everything at all times and you know everything about it all.
FFS phranc, that’s pathetic even by your standards.
June 30th, 2010
@Liquid
it’s because HH’s is from Ireland and he acts like if he’s from another world…dont take it personally.
even ncaissie said CAD made Canadians look bad LOL.
June 30th, 2010
“The plain fact is that yous don’t give a sh!te about Xbox or Milo.”
yet he’s been on “attack mode” the word MS pops up.
@HH
so do you agree that Greenberg is full of shit?
June 30th, 2010
Oh who cares about Milo, working or not.
The tech demo was fine as a feature ‘presentation’ for kinect, but who really wants to have a chat with a young boy?
Scrap Milo and stick something like it into your next fooking Fable Pete.
June 30th, 2010
“It is a fact however that MS’s Kinetic show was smoke and mirrors”
are you going to argue that fact also, the critics (the ppl that were there) noticed it. There are even videos showing how the in game charaters pulls the move even before the player does
June 30th, 2010
roca
i dont care. . .he had a fuckin remark bout irish woman yesterday and den wen me and CON were talking about politics he made another snide remark. . .then again dont 60% of americans not know where britain or Ireland are? oh and 30% think leprechauns are real? seriously yanks have got to be the stupidest population on earth. . .
June 30th, 2010
You should boycott everything America liquid.
Start with our TV/Movies.
June 30th, 2010
“Yeah, cos were there, had access to everything at all times and you know everything about it all.”
Are you denying that the demonstration was not pre recorded?
I like how the force was so strong with the user “playing” the star wars game that the lightsaber swung prior to him swinging. Force intuition.
June 30th, 2010
believe me i barely watch all those big flashy shooty hollywood films so theres no need to boycott anything. . .foreign independent films are 100 times better. . .take [REC] for example, brilliant spanish horror. . .then hollywood makes an adaptation and itscalled quarantime which turned out to be shit because to add to many special effects and dumb lifeless actors. . .
June 30th, 2010
All I’m saying is grow some thick skin. I enjoyed our banter. The fat Americans pic was funny. Reminds me of the Walmart email I received.
June 30th, 2010
yes i know phranc but its coming across to me that you have got a problem with the Irish. .thats why im getting annoyed. . .
June 30th, 2010
I’ve dated a nice Irish girl. She couldn’t hold her liquor which I found funny
June 30th, 2010
phranctoast
“Are you denying that the demonstration was not pre recorded?”
Oh ffs, stop reaching.
Loads of stuff at any presentation stuff at these kinds of events (and in most everything else) is pre-recorded.
If that’s really the standard by which you’re now going then almost everything can be wruitten off as “smoke and mirrors”.
Lots of people last year and this got to try out Natal/Kinect (seeing as you chose to widen this out beyond Milo) and came away with very good things to say about it.
Was it all perfect?
No.
Who said it was, yet?
June 30th, 2010
ha phranc you should of gave her whiskey. . not liquor.
June 30th, 2010
Move Tiger Woods demo looked pre-recorded..don’t you agree Happy? since it was a presentation it must be pre-recorded.
same goes to Zelda, they were experiencing “pre-recorded” difficulties during their demo.
June 30th, 2010
Whats that old bar and casino saying?
Liquor up front, Poker in the rear
June 30th, 2010
Whiskey is liquor you fucking idiot.
June 30th, 2010
@Happy
Roca beat me to it by a second.
Move and Wii took the real hands on approach. Kinetic should have done the same.
People acting out as if they are playing is quite frankly the biggest deception I’ve seen in some time (maybe since KZ2 as twilight pointed out).
There is reason for this if the tech works as expected.
June 30th, 2010
should be:
“There is NO reason for this if the tech works as expected.”
June 30th, 2010
whiskey is a spirit you fucking idiot! LOL Liquor has sugar in it. . .fuckin retard CON
June 30th, 2010
It’s quite ironic Liquid that you are getting mad at Phranctoast about insulting the Irish. You should probably think about this the next time that you feel the need to call someone a “sand nigger.”
June 30th, 2010
shut up twilight. . .go back in the corner until you need to come out and say something stupid and pointless. .
btw for the record. .romanians are used teabags LOL
June 30th, 2010
Liquor does not have sugar in it, you’re thinking of liqueur.
Idiot.
June 30th, 2010
@CAD
Its funny that harry, posted a conterpoint to mike’s article.. Its the first comment in this article, still the usual psluts were talking abt how its a demo, boo hoo not coming.. These people are funny as hell,circle jerking each other, only to be proved wrong lmao
“At least with move you aren’t limited to 2, and price is scalable. The only way Kinect could possibly win a price war with Move now is if they release a single player only version for half the price”
@Jofa
I actually posted abt this a few weeks back, that kinect can only have two players playing at the same time, while move can have 4 player games, only if the game requires move controller.. If a game requires two move controller per player or one move and one sub controller per player then its restricted to two player only..
Move does not support 4 players with sub/ds3 controllers..
June 30th, 2010
“Move and Wii took the real hands on approach. Kinetic should have done the same.”
So at e3 2009, that part where the guy was showing the avatars shoe was pre-recorded.. great
June 30th, 2010
“Liquor does not have sugar in it, you’re thinking of liqueur”
if you want to get technical then yes. .but liquor would be baileys. .not whiskey.
idiot.
June 30th, 2010
@Toshi
I dont believe that Harry posted anything proving that Milo demo wasnt some fake shit….
and nobody said Move support 4 players with the navegation controller. Move in fact support 4 peripheral at a time:
* 4 Movies controller (4 players)
* 2 Moves and 2 nagation (2 players)
* 1 Move, 1 Nav and 2 Dualshock 3 (3 players)
* 2 Movies and 2 Mics (4 player – Singstar)
PS Eye camara has double the FPS of kinetic and does not rely heavely on the CPU unlike Kinetic…that’s why Move can support all type of games because it’s not too spec demanding
June 30th, 2010
No……again liquor would be whiskey and Baileys would be liqueur….lol
You’re an idiot of the highest order lol you even took on board that you were wrong and then contradicted yourself again ha ha!
June 30th, 2010
@CON
would you mind telling me if Rum is liqueur, Baileys, liquor or something else…
June 30th, 2010
The simple FACT is that after it was shown you idiots were all up in a tissy saying MS STOLD the show with NATAL. And now it is all proving to be BS we are simply throwing it back in your face and you can’t take it.
June 30th, 2010
Con is right about not having sugar in liquor.
@Roca
Rum is a spirit, or liquor.
Liqeuers are the ones with sugar added
June 30th, 2010
@Roco
Here you go. This should clear up your questions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distilled_beverage
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liqueur
Mmmmm I feel like a drink!
@Phranc
I love American TV by the way lol some people here can’t take a joke.
June 30th, 2010
@Roco
Here you go. This should clear up your questions
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distilled_beverage
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liqueur
Mmmmm I feel like a drink!
@Phranc
I love American TV by the way lol some people here can’t take a joke.
June 30th, 2010
What does it matter anyway?
Just drink and enjoy lmao
June 30th, 2010
CON whiskey is a spirit. . .end of! so is vodka, rum, gin etc. . .who the fuck calls whiskey liquor in Ireland anyway? we call them spirits down here. . .maybe its different up in the six counties but no one down here refers to whiskey as a liquor!
June 30th, 2010
“I love American TV by the way lol some people here can’t take a joke.”
says the bar-stool republican. . .shut up you piece of shit
June 30th, 2010
In retrospect, I should have said she couldn’t handle her alcohol.
June 30th, 2010
Philly is a big drinking city and I think most people here just would refer to whiskey as liquor and not spirit. I dont think anyone cares either lmao.
June 30th, 2010
LOL
June 30th, 2010
Who’s arguing that whiskey isn’t a spirit you tit? lol
You’re the muppet saying whiskey is not liquor.
June 30th, 2010
“In retrospect, I should have said she couldn’t handle her alcohol.”
seriously..
June 30th, 2010
i dont care but CON started this stupid argument. . .
June 30th, 2010
Don’t Republicans watch American TV? Is that in the Green Book? lol
You’ve embarrassed yourself in this post already.
June 30th, 2010
awh fuck off you will ya. . .your a spastic like. and how have i embarrassed myself?
June 30th, 2010
Does someone else want to fill him in? lol
June 30th, 2010
this guy is a fool. .
June 30th, 2010
“The simple FACT is that after it was shown you idiots were all up in a tissy saying MS STOLD the show with NATAL.”
Especially HH, regarding Kinects “potential” for uses other than gaming….when he specifically defends his xbox by claiming it is used for his ‘gaming’ needs…ah the hypocrisy of it all.
Also, HH, your a dipshit, eventually motion controls are the future, but i can pretty much guarantee you, it will NOT be lead by MS’ technology. They are pretty much playing catch up on ALL fronts except Windows, which up until 7, has been losing market share ( albeit very little to be fair) to Apple/Linux.
Internet Explorer is losing out to Firefox/Chrome/etc..its only alive because it comes ‘stock’ with Windows, and even this is under investigation by the European FCC ( can’t remember the acronyms)
WIndows 7 Mobile has a lost market share to Android/iPhone by HUGE margins…it will be released with LOADS of missing features.
MS missed the boat with the Zune ( Sony did as well)
MS missed the boat with touch technology to Apple..
Its biggest creative mind has left the company…
Your faith in MS is ill put my friend.
Now, the reason why most people are ‘up n arms’ about Milo is simple: ANY negative news on ANY new UPCOMING technology, is usually a VERY bad sign…considering its release its but a few months away….Move is show to have worked, no real problems with the tech itself except it needs, as Carlb put it, more “Move only” type games. The Wii is still going strong as ever. The only one that came flopping out of the gate is Kinect….again, as i have pointed out, mostly because MS is hyping and betting, IMO, too much on Kinect. E3 was supposed to be a good showing for MS’ Kinect..instead, it showed glaring problems with it.
Now on the topic of America, Irish. I all for poking fun at each other, but if someone is really offending, then its the ‘offending’ person’s duty to clarify the comment as a joke, and/or apologize. In this case, Liquid, got all butt hurt at phranc’s post. I guess the lack of action movies has made the irish ‘soft’ ? just kidding. I sort of agree with Liquid’s take on foreign films, most are usually pretty good (snatch, rock n rolla, being the more popular ones) but none of those can match the awesome movies that are: Pulp Fiction, Braveheart (ironically about european countries lol), Gladiator, Saving Private Ryan, to name the more recent blockbusters.
/end rant
June 30th, 2010
“Does someone else want to fill him in? lol”
keep your homosexual tendencies to yourself
June 30th, 2010
jojo are you still stalking HH!?!?
June 30th, 2010
“Saving Private Ryan”
the D-Day landing on that was filmed on curracloe beach. . .in wexford, ireland where im from. i remember seeing all the dummies and fake blood down there. was some cool.
June 30th, 2010
“keep your homosexual tendencies to yourself ”
C’mon, we all know thats exactly what Liquid wants
As for the location of the D-Day landing, thats pretty cool you got to see the ‘set’…
June 30th, 2010
“As for the location of the D-Day landing, thats pretty cool you got to see the ’set’…”
Its cool as shit when a movie is being filmed in your area.
Several scenes from Transformers 2 were filmed here in Philly and several of them were really close to my house, so I got to see some filming.
June 30th, 2010
Parts of a driving scene from one of the Bourne movies was shot by my house too
June 30th, 2010
“this guy is a fool. .”
Says the guy who says whiskey isn’t liquor lol
June 30th, 2010
i got mixed up you idiot and i said whiskey is a spirit which it is
June 30th, 2010
fucking DoD:Waw…. I got an error in the game.. this is pretty fucked up lol.
I start off the Blowtorch and corkscrew mission and I advance up the field, take out the enemy soldiers and when I get near the second shrine the screen goes black on me, and a couple seconds later I get a screen that says
Error
There was a problem reading your data. Please ensure all storage devices are connected properly and your game disc is clean.
i couldn’t advance any further in the campaign…
decided that since it seemed unlikely that the disc was defective that the problem most likely involved my xbox in some way or another.
So I decided to clear the system cache and try playing it again with very interesting results.
When I started the game and it asked to DL the update I said no and just played the game as is.
While playing through the beginning of Blowtorch and Corkscrew I had gotten to the part where the game errored on me prviously, which is right near the second shrine you see.
This time the game says I reached a checkpoint and low and behold NO ERROR.
Thats pretty fucking shitty
June 30th, 2010
So if Natal/Kinect really is all fake what are the Pbots gurning and wetting their panties about over it?
Fact is you thought the headline here gave an excuse to bash away.
Idiot children.
June 30th, 2010
@Liquid
You’re the only idiot here
June 30th, 2010
@CON
You and HH are the only cock suckers here.
June 30th, 2010
ncassie
F*ck you you boring idiot fanboy.
June 30th, 2010
CON the Irish guys really ought to try and stick together a bit.
Different console and all but still…..
July 1st, 2010
“WIndows 7 Mobile has a lost market share to Android/iPhone by HUGE margins…it will be released with LOADS of missing features”
I dont think anyone consider Windows mobile as of one of the top mobile OS anymore…
July 1st, 2010
Lmao hh and con are the only two idiots.
It’s all in fun with the rest of the xbots.
July 1st, 2010
Well its still miles ahead of the psluts circle jerking each other,
Its funny how the debate changes from “lol milo isn’t coming to hail it was all smokes n mirros to pre-recorded shows to windows 7 losing marketshare..
PS The topic has hardly any revelance, its just one name MICROSOFt
@ROCa
Read the article again and then check out the link harry posted..
The End Thanks
July 1st, 2010
” CON the Irish guys really ought to try and stick together a bit.Different console and all but still…..”
agreed lol
July 1st, 2010
@Liquid
Fuck you
July 1st, 2010
no fuck you ya republican piece of shit
July 1st, 2010
@Toshi
it still doesnt proved what was shown about Natal was not smoke and mirrors and pre-recored stuff as was proven by the media (video showing in game character doing shit before the player)
here is another take on why MS might have chosen to go with pre-recorded show
“Another spec noted is that the cameras are at two resolutions (320×240 and 640×480 in high color) and send a datastream with a 30FPS refresh rate. That means that your movements will always be a couple frames behind (33ms at minimum), especially if you’re playing a game with a high refresh rate. And the rather low resolution means that more subtle movements like finger motions or slight changes in foot position are likely never to be implemented. Usually low pixel resolution allows for better temporal resolution (i.e. faster refresh) but they seem to have neither here”
here is what Peter said about Milo:
“Milo does not actually recognize the player’s voice but reacts to the tone of your voice. He also further explains that Milo says rudimentary open ended statements that will fit into whatever you say”
July 1st, 2010
CON
IIRC you’re in Béal Feirste?
July 1st, 2010
happy
what county are you from in the north?
July 1st, 2010
Down.
I’m a gold coaster – but I have no sailing yaught.
I have thought about a speed boat or a jet ski but not yet, my Mrs isn’t too keen.
….and our waters are so fecking cold almost all year round it would make anyone think twice before taking to them!
July 1st, 2010
nice ive never been there before, ive only been to enniskillen in fermanagh once, thats the only place ive been in ulster, i heard belfast is deadly for the nightlife, is? . .haha i say its freezin in the sea up there! were ya ever down in wexford? we got a few nice beaches but it usually rains in ireland so whats the point of them lol. btw its actually bein a good summer down here so far. . what about up there??
July 1st, 2010
is it*
July 1st, 2010
Belfast is great, like Dublin the city’s really come on and is as good (and I suppose to be fair as bad) a place as any.
Great clubs, good acts coming now & some vbery nice places to be – but, just like everywhere else there’s also the poncy nonsense too.
So far we’ve had a cracker of a summer, here’s hoping it lasts (the last couple of years we’ve had a decent May but it’s fizzled out badly)
The lakes (Enniskillen) are very beautiful, the west of the north is one of my favourite parts of Ireland, it can be so amazing and yet so desolate.
July 1st, 2010
it still doesnt proved what was shown about Natal was not smoke and mirrors and pre-recored stuff as was proven by the media (video showing in game character doing shit before the player)
@Roca
So is this article relating to smokes n mirror or do u want to argue abt a product which is still a work in progess ??
Make Up your mind plz
July 1st, 2010
“pre-recored stuff as was proven by the media (video showing in game character doing shit before the player”
@Roca
I dont think microsoft ever said that the show was live, i think its a common practice to show pre-recorded data, since the technology is still a work in progress..
We can all debate abt it, when it gets released..
July 1st, 2010
nice excuse…why would MS put ppl acting as if they were playing? they clearly wanted ppl to think those were lived footage. at least they can count on you to fall for it.
July 1st, 2010
LOL. . .
July 2nd, 2010
Similarly how some of the performers usually lipsync to their songs unless u think they dont
July 2nd, 2010
either was it was fake while the Wii and Move proved that if fact their tech works and was shown live…can’t say the same about Project Natal as everytime MS have shown some gameply the media quicly spotted how everything was fake, manipulated or pre-recorded…but as long as they can count on you to fall for it, it’s all GOOD
July 2nd, 2010
I think that’s all they need tho Roca.
If they can lure enough people into buying it then it may catch on like the Wii. Nintendo did a similar thing tho, with all the ‘sword chopping’ and crap in thier early videos when in reality you could just flick your wrists. I’m not sure how much Motion Plus changes that either.
I think that Sony & MS should’ve waited until the next gen to introduce all this gimmick crap. They could’ve let it mature a bit but oh well.
July 2nd, 2010
Roca
“everything was fake, manipulated or pre-recorded”
Fake is quite different to ‘manipulated’ (which might simply mean presented in the best way, it is PR afterall) and as for ‘pre-recorded’, so what?
Lots of presentations are pre-recorded.
That does not mean falsified as you are trying to imply here.
I don’t know what you’re trying to get at here.
It’s not as if all the Xbox owners are slavishly devoted to this.
Most of us, from what I can see, are interested in how it will work out in reality and are waiting to see…..and are waiting to see how it is applied in games and/or the control system.
That means we’re looking to see what the finished product looks like, so you need not worry so much about the impact of those presentations, most of us are quite capable of discerning the difference between a prototype at a show and the reality in the shops.
But thanks for your concern.
Shame about the nasty saddo fanboy nonsense you insist on liberally sprinkling into your one-eyed nonsense tho.
July 2nd, 2010
“Fake is quite different to ‘manipulated’ (which might simply mean presented in the best way, it is PR afterall) and as for ‘pre-recorded’, so what?
Lots of presentations are pre-recorded.
That does not mean falsified as you are trying to imply here.”
Bullocks!!! I remember you were one of the ones crying foul of the “pre-recorded/rendered” original Killzone 2 trailer…
Whats funny is the actual game ended up looking darn close or sometimes even better lol
“Shame about the nasty saddo fanboy nonsense you insist on liberally sprinkling into your one-eyed, nonsense tho.”
Hey HH, seems MS aim is off a bit, you can still see through one eye…..
July 2nd, 2010
No.
Fail.
Pre-rendered footage slid thru as if it’s in-game footage is fraud.
July 2nd, 2010
@jojo
But then it was sony/gg who said it was ingame footage, which irked that controversy
July 2nd, 2010
“Fake is quite different to ‘manipulated’ (which might simply mean presented in the best way, it is PR afterall) ”
Hmmm so what you are saying they ‘manipulated’ people into thinking the cg was real….i guess when Sony “presenting in the best way” is NOT PR, but fraud and fail?
Enlighten me.
July 2nd, 2010
@HH
“everything was fake, manipulated or pre-recordedâ€
either way it was fake and the media and the tester noticed it. end of story.
btw, Sony did wrong with KZ2, no is denying that, even Sony admitted it. But at least Move presentation and show was legit and not pre-recorded or manipulated.
@Jojo
they must do whatever it takes to defend MS.
July 2nd, 2010
Just love pointing out their hypocrisy.
July 2nd, 2010
Pre-recorded isn’t “faked”.
Manipulated is not necessarily “faked” either.
You guys can whine and cry your buckets about this all you like but the plain fact is that you are claming it means falsified when that is simply not true.
I stand by my comments about pre-rendered footage, when it’s shown as if it is in-game footage that is quite plainly a falsehood.
But spin in your stupid circles over it if you must, you’re only making yourself look like a hypocritical idiot.
July 2nd, 2010
“I stand by my comments about pre-rendered footage, when it’s shown as if it is in-game footage that is quite plainly a falsehood.”
Scenario A: Falsifying a game, by using pre-recorded videos of people actually playing it….is NOT fake;manipulation; PR spin???
BUT, Scenario B claiming your game is targeting a tech demo’s graphics, is fake;manipulation; PR spin?
Please HH, help me out here….
July 2nd, 2010
Spin in your stupid circles over it if you must, you’re only making yourself look like a hypocritical idiot.
July 6th, 2010
“Spin in your stupid circles over it if you must, you’re only making yourself look like a hypocritical idiot.”
Not really. You look the worst here.
Target render vs people pretending to play the game.
One is a lot more deceiving. I’ll give you a hint as to which one. The one less people realized was a deception. That’s what makes it worse.
You should just stop. Your best defense is “why do you guys care”
You are a sad little man.