Voice control and video chat for Kinect to be available at launch?

August 25, 2010

Voice control and video chat for Kinect to be available at launch? Earlier today news broke that voice control and video chat features would not be available for the Kinect at launch. This would have been a big blow to Microsoft as these features are main highlights of Kinect.

MCV mag reported this earlier today after speaking with Xbox Live EMEA marketing manager Robin Burrowes. He stated, “we will be announcing when voice control will be turned on in due course.” He also apparently confirmed that video chat, which was demoed at E3, will not be available at launch.

Microsoft has since then responded to this report, correcting Burrowes’s statement. According to a Microsoft spokesperson voice control will most definitely be available at launch for the U.S. For other countries, the release window for voice control is still to be decided.

Response from Microsoft:

Voice control is an exciting part of the Kinect for Xbox 360 controller-free experience and we can confirm that it will be available at launch in November 2010. Only on Xbox 360 will you be able to navigate the Kinect Hub using your voice to control your movies, TV Shows and music. We do not have additional details to share about local voice availability at this time.

Judging from Microsoft’s response or lack thereof, it appears that video chat will indeed not be available at launch.

Thanks for the tip yankeestiger!

89 Responses to “Voice control and video chat for Kinect to be available at launch?”

  1. Rhino:

    LOL so when your sick of the lag and scream at it “fuck you!!!!’, the doorbell rings and CAD and/or Greenberg are there to fulfil your needs.

    “Only on Xbox 360 will you be able to navigate the Kinect Hub using your voice to control your movies, TV Shows and music.” So when you’re had a gutful of it’s crap and you say for fucks sake…it asks you if you want to play your porn collection.

  2. Happyhockum:

    “Microsoft has since then responded to this report, correcting Burrowes’s statement.
    According to a Microsoft spokesperson voice control will most definitely be available at launch for the US”

    So it’s not open to question, they have made a definite statment and said it will have it on lauch day.

  3. FahKinSuPah:

    I break into fits of laughter when I think of the poor misguided deep south rednecks that will buy a kinect.

    “get me a beer” will probably be the first command they will try

  4. phranctoast:

    Did they happy? I saw nothing about voice chat in that statement being available at launch. I guess it is open for question unless your reading skills interpret otherwise. LOL. It helps to read all the words, and not just the ones that make your point.

  5. Happyhockum:

    Must be that selecvtive reading at work again.

    How much more definitive does it get?

    “Voice control is an exciting part of the Kinect for Xbox 360 controller-free experience
    and
    we can confirm that it will be available at launch in November 2010″

  6. FahKinSuPah:

    @phranc

    I’m sorry but happy got you this time lol. Did you forget your coffee this morning?

  7. ncaissie:

    ““get me a beer” will probably be the first command they will try”

    you mean
    “git me a beer” will probably be the first command they will try

  8. phranctoast:

    voice control and voice chat are the same thing???????

    WOW.

  9. ncaissie:

    “@phranc

    I’m sorry but happy got you this time lol. Did you forget your coffee this morning?”

    Phranc is right. It is only half there. the Title says both chat and control. only control will be there at launch.

  10. phranctoast:

    voice control and video chat that is…

  11. ncaissie:

    Kinetic fails again. LOL

  12. ncaissie:

    “voice control and video chat that is…”

    LOL You have to clear or you will confuse HH.

  13. Roca.:

    voice can be done on all gaming consoles….voice control on the other hand…uhm…I’ll let HH figure it out.

    This is rediculous, for a $150 peripheral Kinect has nothing going for it – no sign language, lower res and frame rate, lag, etc ,etc..

    Well, at least I hope it can recognise the sign language that players will give it after experiencing its immense input lag ;)

  14. phranctoast:

    video chat seems like it can only still be done on one console. Even at the time of Kinetic’s launch, unless that’s another example of my selective reading.

  15. Liquid:

    rhino and fahkin you guys are fucking hilarious!! LMAO. . .god i love this site. . .there is no other like it on the net ha!

  16. FahKinSuPah:

    @liquid

    Well i think we would be stupid to take most of the stuff that happens here seriously lol.

    @ncaissie

    Your right. The correct term is indeed “git me a beer”

    @everyone

    hasn’t anyone realized that the 360 doesn’t need Kinect for voice control? The 360 already supports it.

    I was using it last night when I told my girlfriend to turn on my 360 and start up Mass Effect for me. :-D

  17. Rimmer:

    ” no sign language” are you kidding, Roca? Now you are complaining about the lack of a never announced non-existent feature based on a patent MS lodged but never linked to kinect? It won’t tie your shoe laces either, do you want to complain about that as well? Because Sony and Nintendo do such a great job with recognizing sign language, don’t they?
    And lower res and frame rate? than what? there has only ever been one spec announced for the hardware and that hasn’t changed at all. You really try so hard to discredit kinect. Are you really that afraid it might succeed?

  18. Rimmer:

    “I was using it last night when I told my girlfriend to turn on my 360 and start up Mass Effect for me. ” classic! :D

  19. FahKinSuPah:

    @Rimmer

    Yeah i forgot to mention that it worked perfectly.

  20. The Future of Sega:

    You know I find this annoying. Here it is the Xbox 360 was released in 2006 and NOW Microsoft decides to release a peripheral that basically counts as it own system. That’s poor management in my view.

    They could have released this shit a few months AFTER launch. Not a whole FUCKEN 2 years!!!….That’s bullshit.

    Do they honestly think that I’m going to head out to Best Buy and purchase another accessory for 150 or 200+?? I think not.

    It’s all a monopoly. Think about it, do you honestly think technology like Kinect could be developed in 7 months? -sigh-

  21. Roca.:

    @Rimmer
    your too easy to bait dude.
    seems like you have high hopes for Kinect..LMAO

    ‘real talk’ now…..Kinect did downgraded its specs to lower cost (not to mention its overall specs are lower than lower tha PS Eye – aside from 3D space tracking).

    Kinect original specs listed that the device was going to be able to do 640×480 32-bit color @ 30 frames/sec. The ‘final’ specs after MS admitted downgrading Kinect to lower cost shows that Kinect is now only able to do 320×240 16-bit depth @ 30 frames/sec.

    Kinect original ‘leaked’ specs
    http://www.1up.com/news/kinect-specs-reveal-player-limitation

    Final specs after downgrade:
    Kotaku – “The original Kinect had a much higher resolution (over twice that of the final model’s 320×240), and as such, was able to not only recognise the limbs of a player as the current model version can, but their fingers as well (which the current version can’t).”

    h**p://kotaku.com/5609840/kinect-dumbed-down-to-save-money-cant-read-sign-language

  22. FahKinSuPah:

    Here is an epic MS/Kinect fail

    MS usually runs sweepstakes featuring prizes like MS points, or other stuff. These sweepstakes are usually free for everyone to enter, all you need to do is DL a gamerpic to register

    The big sweepstakes right now, from Aug 10- Sep 30 is a chance to win a Kinect bundle or Kinect sensor.

    The fail part is this sweepstakes is only open to Gold members. Talk about fucking cheap

  23. ncaissie:

    “I was using it last night when I told my girlfriend to turn on my 360 and start up Mass Effect for me.”

    Hey bitch, git me a beer and turn on my game machine thingy.

  24. Barnabe Jones:

    Hey bitch, git me a beer and turn on my game machine thingy. Don’t make me git up an’ punch ya again.

  25. FahKinSuPah:

    Hey bitch, git me a beer and turn on my game machine thingy. Don’t make me git up an’ punch ya again. And while your up make dinner too.

  26. phranctoast:

    What do you tell your bitch when she has two black eyes…?

    Nothing. You already told her twice ;)

  27. ncaissie:

    “The fail part is this sweepstakes is only open to Gold members. Talk about fucking cheap”
    LOL

  28. ncaissie:

    LMFAO

  29. Roca.:

    Sorry to burst your bubble Rimmer..
    but that’s the sad truth

  30. twilight:

    You can do a few things as a silver member on the Xbox360 but you have to have to have a gold membership to access the majority of the features that are all free to Ps3 users.

  31. oldschool1987:

    I wonder if Kinect can make ME2 an exclusive again

  32. Liquid:

    the xbots are dying inside with kinects failures and ME2 appearing on PS3. . .ha talk about karma

  33. Roca.:

    No wonder Move was awared as the best console peripheral over Kinect at GamesCon which was judged by ‘European’ gaming press and specialty retailers.

    lets wait and watch HH dismiss that fact.

  34. b0xel:

    anyone getting Mafia 2?

  35. twilight:

    Roca,
    You’re reasons for owning a Xbox360 are dwindling away. The few games that you wanted to play are coming to the Ps3.

  36. ncaissie:

    “The few games that you wanted to play are coming to the Ps3.”

    You mean going to the PS3.
    you are an xbot remember.

  37. b0xel:

    “You mean going to the PS3.”
    Ha ha, nice.

  38. Roca.:

    “You’re reasons for owning a Xbox360 are dwindling away. The few games that you wanted to play are coming to the Ps3″

    LOL…..it’s my fault, I should’ve seen this coming

  39. twilight:

    Ncaissie,
    You seem to forget that I do own a 250 gig Ps3 and I assure it’s not just for decoration. Roca stated that he got a Xbox360 to play some games that weren’t on the Ps3. It seems that most of these games that he wanted to play are coming to the Ps3 as well.

  40. Roca.:

    @Twilight

    get an avatar already.
    http://en.gravatar.com/

  41. ncaissie:

    Owning a PS3 does not mean youare not an xbot.
    Look at toshi, carlb, Roca.

  42. b0xel:

    “Look at toshi, carlb, Roca.”
    hahaha damn it, you’re killing me

  43. Roca.:

    ^ LOL

  44. ncaissie:

    LOL

  45. twilight:

    Ncaissie,
    All right now. Roca a Xbot fanboy? Ha! Ha! I almost choked on my soda reading this.

  46. Barnabe Jones:

    “According to a Microsoft spokesperson voice control will most definitely be available at launch for the US. For other countries, the release window for voice control is still to be decided.”

    So CAD, will you still be buying Kinect day one?

  47. Liquid:

    if MS released a brick and said it was some way compatable with the 360 den CAD would buy it and would violently defend it and prob claim it could read minds and helps cook. ..

  48. Barnabe Jones:

    Oldschool,

    Sorry I didn’t get back to you in the other post. I saw SW was able to help you out.

    Just wondering, have you tried it yet? Also do you have 4.3E? Guessing you’ll have to do Indiana Pwns.

    I’m holding off at the minute. I’m waiting until I have some extra cash for an external USB drive.

  49. Rimmer:

    Roca you might want to check your facts – the low res 16bit camera is the depth sensor. the RGB camera is still 640×480 at 32 bit.

  50. Roca.:

    Kotaku – “The original Kinect had a much higher resolution (over twice that of the final model’s 320×240), and as such, was able to not only recognise the limbs of a player as the current model version can, but their fingers as well (which the current version can’t).”
    http://kotaku.com/5609840/kinect-dumbed-down-to-save-money-cant-read-sign-language

  51. Roca.:

    “The original Kinect patent filed by Microsoft suggested that the device would be equipped with a 640×480 camera with the ability to understand American Sign Language. The final production model replaces a pricey hardware chip with a software solution which, in addition to saving Microsoft money, reduces the performance of the device.

    While the lower-resolution 320×240 camera will still recognize the motion of player’s limbs, it is not fine enough to detect finger movements. And if the Kinect won’t detect intricate hand motions, speculated lip-reading capability is definitely not a possibility.”

    http://www.myce.com/news/microsoft-downgrades-xbox-360-kinect-hardware-to-lower-costs-33064/

  52. Happyhockum:

    Oh dear, so you’re drawn a blank over ‘voice control’ and you’re going to try and get a quibble-fest going over ‘voice chat’ now huh?

    Why would voice chat be a big deal on Xbox when practically everything can handle voice chat?
    Even party chat operates independently of games so just what is it you day-dream is so impossible with Kinect?

    (and which wording – and from whom – is it that opens this feeble game of word-play for you to think this idea has a miniscule shred of possibility?)

  53. ncaissie:

    It’s not voice chat dipshit.
    It is “video” chat in kinetic.

  54. Rhino:

    LOL HH on the ‘voice chat’ vs ‘voice control’.

    Voice control is “Go fuck yourself” and you do.

    Voice chat is “I think you’re a total douche and you can’t see fact for shit cause you’ve had your head up Greenbergs ass…so what do you think about that?”

    See the difference?

  55. Rhino:

    Ohhh I say this little gem earlier…

    “Xbox 360 remains the best place to experience the Mass Effect franchise,” a Microsoft representative told IGN.
    The Microsoft representative also noted that those who want the full Mass Effect experience–Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2–will only find it on the Xbox 360.”

    LOL LOL you could play it on PC as well fuckwads…and it aint the best place anymore!!!!!!

  56. phranctoast:

    I meant video chat but you already knew that. I’m well aware that voice chat exists already.

    They didn’t confirm that now did they.

  57. Happyhockum:

    Video chat?
    And so what?
    Voice control is the big one.

  58. Happyhockum:

    Rhino

    Like anyone (outside the pathetic points scoring Pbot gang) gives a f*ck.

  59. Roca.:

    “Voice control is the big one”

    really? I’ve have that feature on my phones for about 7 years now – [useless] – It’s good for about 10 mins, when the novelty wears off you’ll find manual input to be more convenient and faster.

  60. phranctoast:

    Hey roca. Do you have video chat on your phone?

  61. Roca.:

    Negative.

  62. phranctoast:

    Hmmm. Sounds like video chat would be the big one then now doesn’t it?

  63. ncaissie:

    Lol it’s on the new iPhone and the new 4g phone that I don’t recall the name of. I just seen it on tv.

  64. Rhino:

    I can just see it now……imagine this, HH in his lounge room with his shiny new Kinect.

    Pew (lag lag lag) pew….Die!!!
    Pew (lag lag lag) pew….Die!!!

    “Ohh for fucks sake!”
    “Would you like to start your porn collection Happy?”
    “No I’m swearing at you you piece of shit”
    “Sorry can’t initiate command”
    “Ohhhhh fuck me!!!”
    “Affirmative…calling Aaron Greenberg”, “Where would you like to be violated today?” “Up the ass, or just in the wallet again?”
    “Arrrggghhhhhhhh!!!!!”
    “Sorry can’t initiate command”

  65. Rimmer:

    roca are you being intentionally thick? how many more times do i have to explain that the 320×240 camera is the depth sensor. the OTHER camera on board is the RGB camera which is still 640×480 at 32bit, just like the eyetoy. and as for it being downgraded during development that happens in every line of technology. even your venerable PS3 faced significant downgrades until it was finally released (and for that matter even after it was released – integrated emotion chip anyone?)

  66. surv1vor:

    Interesting: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-08-26-uks-first-videogame-channel-announced

    Hopefully this will start a bit of revoloution.

  67. FahKinSuPah:

    @surv1vor

    if it turns out anything like G4 in the US then forget it.

  68. Roca.:

    @Rhino
    Pew (lag lag lag) pew….Die!!!
    Pew (lag lag lag) pew….Die!!!

    ROFL!!

  69. twilight:

    Roca,
    I tried but I couldn’t get in.

  70. CAD:

    Rimmer

    Don’t mind them. That what idiots do when they are jelous of another console who is wooping their ass in the console wars leaving the PS3 in dead last because they have no innovation. Sony is just a copier and not a pioneer in this industry just look at Move compared to Kinect. It’s clear that Kinect moves beyond what Nintendo started and will be tons of fun come this November. Nintemdo has the 3DS coming next year too. It’s clear that the go to companies in this generation is Nintendo and Microsoft because they are game changers and not just part of the crowd. In any case the Move controller has it’s lag issues to just look at the video in this link. 1 to 1 my ass LOL.

    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/playstation-move-controller-lag-analysis-blog-entry

  71. oldschool1987:

    @ BJ: Hey pal it’s ok, nah i didn’t try it. I’m not smart enough to try that shit lmao.

  72. Roca.:

    @CAD

    Rare said the input lag of their game is 150ms (3x more lag than Wii’s 50ms) while Sony confirmed Move’s has a input lag of 22 (2x less lag than the Wii). Ouch

    either way – the videos speak for themselves. Harry Portter, Kinect Adventure, Fighters Uncaged, Kinectimals and many more have all shown massive lag while being demoed (you can’t deny that). all other ‘on point’ videos were pre-recorded and the media was able to notice the game doing the actions before the players…LMAO

    Move, on the other hand, has been dropping jaws with its precision and its accuracy that is far better than anything on Kinect or Wii.

    in fact, Move is so accurate that Surgeons are thinking about using Move for their surgery simulators to save money rather than using a 100K equipment.

    Move is excelling at every single aspect of gaming without degrading the overall experiece while Kinect has turned action games into “on-rails” games with motion [lagfest] input. Not even Peter Molyneux could figured out how to implement Kinect into his game before its launch date.

    While we can admit Sony is copying Nintendo you will always be a blinded fanboy who won’t admit that Microsoft is copying Sony’s Eye Toy with Kinect.

    In the end we can say that Kinect is the motion device with the most lag and limitations – Videos lagging it up and ‘on rails’ game proves this.

  73. jojo29:

    @CAD

    Microsoft is not an innovator..at all…you got what this year from them?….Halo: Reach….yes truly innovative../sarcasm

    While Nintendo always reinvents its franchises

    While Sony brings truly innovative games….CAD, here’s a challenge, find me the MS equivalent of the followiing titles:

    LittleBigPlanet- innovative gameplay/ best in genre
    Modnation Racers- innovative gameplay/
    God of War 3- best in genre/best graphics
    Heavy Rain- best in genre/best graphics
    MAG- innovative gameplay 256 players
    Infamous- innovative gameplay/best in genre
    Killzone- graphics king….

    Well leave it at that list and I even put an easy counter for you…..don’t want to put too much on your plate…go ahead and list the Miicrosoft equivalent…..not 3rf party, but games from MS itself….Oh that means you eliminate Gears, as that’s 3rd party….ROFL, that leaves you with what, forza, fable, halo….

  74. ncaissie:

    “wooping their ass in the console wars”

    LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO

  75. twilight:

    I don’t like Little Big Planet or Modnation racers. I’m more impressed with the graphics of Gow3 and Heavy Rain.

  76. CAD:

    Six Things You Might Not Know About Halo, But Should
    Don’t go into Reach without this intel.

    As with any Halo game, the excitement surrounding Halo: Reach is huge. But this installment is especially significant. It could be Bungie’s last Halo game, as Microsoft owns the Halo brand and Bungie just signed a 10-year deal with Activision to create an entirely new series. Also, like Halo 3: ODST, the story is based on occurrences that do not involve Master Chief. This shouldn’t be too surprising, considering the Halo universe has been rapidly expanding since the break-out popularity of the first game. In preparation for Reach, we’ve read the books, scoured the comics, and watched the anime to bring you a few facts about the Halo Universe that might have escaped you.

    A Rebel Spartan
    During the Spartan II project on the planet Reach, some candidates did not fare well during the augmentation process. One of these was Soren-066, who was made incredibly strong by the enhancements fed into his body, but also left irreparably deformed. Soren was rejected by the Spartan program and left to a desk job. His feeling of uselessness and resentment lead him to join insurrectionists in a plot against the UNSC. In the chaos that follows, Sorren escapes a UNSC camp, but is shot down over the forest. Because his body is never recovered, its possible that he continued to live in the wilderness of Reach.

    Elite Elites
    In one of the short stories from the Halo Universe we briefly encounter a group of Elites, or Sangheili, that use red energy swords and wear complete sets of armor, including full face guards. This equipment appears to be reserved for the special-forces wing of the Elites and is described as easily detecting and taking down cloaked Spartan IIIs. Whether or not there is an official class of Elite soldiers above the golden-armored Elite Zealots that appeared in the other Halo games remains to be seen. We’ll likely find out this fall.

    Spartan IIIs Are Nuts
    Cigar-chomping Sergeant Major Avery Johnson is perhaps the best known Spartan I, and of course Master Chief is the ultimate hero of the Spartan II program. However, we still have yet to experience the very different Spartan IIIs in a game. What we do know is that the Spartan III program was initiated without the knowledge or consent of Dr. Halsey, who devised the Spartan II recruitment parameters. While taking in eligible candidates the psych profiles were pretty much ignored. This means that Spartan IIIs are more likely to fight through an impossible situation, or take on a suicide mission. It also means that some of them are slightly off-kilter mentally.

    Spartan IIIs are also outfitted with experimental technology. We’ve already seen armor powers like the hologram drop, jet pack, and sprint. The books also allude to upgraded visors that have improved zoom and vision modes that can detect camouflaged Elites. All but one member of Noble team in Halo: Reach is a Spartan III, so we’ll get up close and personal with the latest UNSC fighting machines very soon.

    A Second Human Faction
    Before the arrival of the Covenant the humans were involved in a civil war between the inner and outer colonies. One particularly fierce group of insurrectionists disappeared after a number of encounters with the UNSC. They returned on one occasion with heavily modified craft to aid against the Covenant. The best guess about the goals of this splinter cell of humans is that they are establishing human existence outside of known space to ride out the war and the threat from the Flood. There’s a long-shot possibility that Admiral Cole (the originator of The Cole Protocol) managed to escape death in his final confrontation with the Covenant and has joined this group.

    Cortana is Dying
    Dr. Halsey is the genius responsible for the Spartan II program and the woman behind the existence of Cortana. She made the AI in her own image and like all “smart” artificial intelligence systems Cortana is capable of expanding her abilities and knowledge base. However, after a period of seven years she will amass too much knowledge to properly index all of it and will shut down. This is called rampancy and effectively signals the death of an AI.

    Master Chief Was at the Battle of Reach
    During the battle of Reach there is a critical mission led by Master Chief to secure data from a space dock just above the planet. The Chief is joined by a small team of Spartans in accomplishing this task just before he escapes aboard the Pillar of Autumn and lands on the original Halo from Halo: Combat Evolved. One of Bungie’s big unveils at E3 2010 was space combat, indicating that running into Master Chief is a distinct possibility as the battle on Reach rages on the ground and in the air.

    There are many more nuggets of Halo lore that could possibly play into Halo: Reach. Let the speculation commence.

    http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/111/1115144p1.html

  77. Liquid:

    did you hear CAD was the first guy on the net to do triple anal?? he took greenberg, gates and balmer all inside him at once. . .and enjoyed every second of it, heard he had to get 28stitches in his asshole. all he had to say was he was farting out jizz for a week. . . .disgusting. . . .

  78. Barnabe Jones:

    lol IGN. Yeah their not biased. /sarcastic

    I use their guides sometimes. It’s nice that their illustrated and not just ASCII like gamefaqs.

    Anyway, I sometimes click on the PS3 portion of the site from time to time. They HALLWAYS have at least one negative PS3 post linked at the PS3 home.

  79. Roca.:

    LMAO @ Liquid

  80. Barnabe Jones:

    CAD does this every year at the time of the annual Halo release.

    First we had to hear about how “Halo Wars was going to be the greatest game ever and sell 9 bajillion copies”.

    Then it was ODST. “It was going to win the console war for the 360. Consoles were going to sell like hotcakes, blah, blah, blah.”

    Now we have Reach, and it’s “blah, blah, blah.”

  81. Barnabe Jones:

    Just think, we’ll have to hear this crap again next year…

  82. twilight:

    Liquid,
    How do you come up with this stuff?
    Anyways, Halo Reach will probably sale very well this holiday.

  83. Barnabe Jones:

    Yeah it should do pretty well.

    I’m curious to see if Black Ops (just the 360 version) ends up doing better. I wouldn’t be surprised if it did.

    Personally I don’t care which one does better. They both seem like just more of the same.

  84. jojo29:

    @BJ
    Nah my favorite thing about IGN is how, and I do believe this happened during Metroid Prime Echoes vs Halo 2 IIRC, that at launch, they bought into the Halo hype and scored it high, just edging out Echoes, then later, “re-reviewed” it and the score came out lower…yeah ign isn’t biased…/sarcasm

  85. Roca.:

    “Personally I don’t care which one does better. They both seem like just more of the same”

    I couldn’t agree more…Angry Bird (on iPhone) and Wii Fit sold more than Gears 2, God of War, Halo ODST, Uncharted 2, Mass Effect 2 – does that make them better than the other games mentioned.

    Sales does not define the quality if a game Ico, Okami, Vagrant Story, SotC, etc]

  86. Liquid:

    twilight

    prob seen one to many shocksites ha

  87. Barnabe Jones:

    It looks like Halo 2 9.8 received and Echoes got a 9.5. It was originally the other way around?

    I’ve read their Prime reviews before. I know they’re huge fans of the series.

    In general though, it seems that IGN tends to be negative towards the PS3.

  88. Roca.:

    @jojo

    http://www.youtube.com/user/TheModNationChannel

  89. twilight:

    It may be more of the same but I’m still looking forward to checking out Black Ops. I still have quite the gaming “trigger” finger.
    BJ,
    It may sell better on the Xbox360 but Ps3 sales will not be all that far behind. I’m curious to see if Medal Of Honor will sell better on Ps3 with the extra bonus content. Liquid,
    Hee…Hee…

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