Greenberg laughs off VGChartz’s Kinect sales estimates

November 12, 2010

Greenberg laughs off VGChartz's Kinect sales estimates VGChartz recently released sales estimates for initial Kinect sell through figures. Microsoft man, Aaron Greenberg responded by laughing off the numbers while accusing the site of lacking any science behind VGChartz’s estimation.

VGChartz has been criticized throughout the years for its software and hardware sales estimation. The estimates put out by the site have either been a hit or miss with some coming very close to official numbers.

I find that its hardware estimates as well as initial software sales figures can be somewhat off at times. However, VGChartz’s historical software sales data seems to be a bit more accurate.

VGChartz reported that initial three day sales estimates put Kinect sensor sales in the ballpark of 475,000 units sold in America. Greenberg responded back by “LOL’ing” and stating that there is no source or science behind the numbers.

He tweeted:

LOL’ing at sales reports from VGChartz, why do people release info as official when there is no source or science behind the#s?

VGChartz would probably argue that there is science behind the numbers which is explained on its methodology page.

55 Responses to “Greenberg laughs off VGChartz’s Kinect sales estimates”

  1. CarlB:

    What? It’s only half the sales in three days that PS3 Move wands/devices managed in a month in the same territory? Is Greenberg saying this is too few or too many, or just ridiculous without firm numbers?

    I don’t like Greenberg, M$, or Kinect at this point, but 3 devices could be counted as a Move unit “sale”: 1 Eye = Move “sale”, 1 Wand = Move “sale”, 1 sub controller = Move “sale”; 2 players who want to play all games? = 5 Move unit “sales”. 475K in 3 days isn’t too shabby for 1 unit in 1 territory alone.

  2. Roca.:

    add to that all the Kinec that were given out to:

    *beta tester
    *to Oprah’s audience
    *to Jimmy fallon’s audience
    *BK is giving Kinects out every 15 mins
    *to many kids at thousands of Boys and Girls club [Kinect + 360 bundle]

  3. CarlB:

    those must have counted as “sales”, all ~50k of them so far… lol.

    In other news… “Cube” is the best low budget movie I’ve seen since “Equilibrium” (it did come out quite some time before though). It’s equal to Math and Psychology as Equilibrium is to Philosophy and
    Government.

    Worth watching, just don’t be turned off by the initial “Saw” moment.

  4. CarlB:

    And please, don’t hold it against me… I rented it :D

  5. Liquid:

    carlB

    yeah cube is a brilliant film. . .you should check out the sequel cube 2: hypercube, in my oppinion its actually better than the original.

  6. CarlB:

    holy shite, I didn’t even know there was a sequel… on it now, thank you!

  7. Liquid:

    no prob. just dont bother with the 3rd movie lol absoulute crap.

    btw guys i found a video of that fahkinsupah gets up to on the weekends…..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79W3QHaiNjc

  8. dans303:

    Just googled Cube – sounds pretty cool.

    Is it gore or psychological?

  9. Liquid:

    that = what*

  10. Liquid:

    psychological , dan.

  11. CarlB:

    For anyone curious:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01hUyIrubWE

    Definitely more psychological than gore. And math.

  12. ncaissie:

    That guy looks like he has down syndrome.

  13. Liquid:

    ncaissie

    fahkinsupah?? lol

  14. CarlB:

    To your link Liquid… the first thought I had was low budget Marilyn Manson :D

    What’s your major beef with FKSP?

  15. ncaissie:

    “I don’t like Greenberg, M$, or Kinect at this point, but 3 devices could be counted as a Move unit “sale”: 1 Eye = Move “sale”, 1 Wand = Move “sale”, 1 sub controller = Move “sale”; 2 players who want to play all games? = 5 Move unit “sales”. 475K in 3 days isn’t too shabby for 1 unit in 1 territory alone.”

    Kind of hard to get an accurate sale number when everything is sold separate. Because of this we will never be able to accurately compare the two.

  16. dans303:

    Good, I prefer psychological horrors.

    @Liquid

    That video is fairly creepy.

  17. ncaissie:

    LOL No Greenberg

  18. Liquid:

    coz when i said “poor carl. . .it must hurt knowing the PS3 is 2nd” in the other thread, he started talking about getting ass fucked by CON, and in another thread he linked a vid, trying to make a joke outta me, so now im just returning the favour. . .lol. its only banter anyway, nothing personal.

    btw that vid is quite disturbing aint it?

  19. Liquid:

    dan

    yeah i know. . .more disturbing than most horrors out these days.

  20. Liquid:

    ” he started talking about getting me* ass fucked by CON,”

  21. dans303:

    Anyone been keeping tabs on GT5 release date today?

  22. Kushy:

    “btw that vid is quite disturbing aint it?”

    Fucking disgusting! lol, my bedroom closet is staying closed when I sleep today!

  23. dans303:

    @Kushy

    Closing the door won’t stop it getting out!!

    MWAA HA HA HA HA!! (very evil laugh)

  24. Liquid:

    guys like what the hell would you do if that was chasing you down a hallway!?! imagine getting cornered??! ugh! . . ,

  25. CarlB:

    “Kind of hard to get an accurate sale number when everything is sold separate.”

    Well, at the very least it’s one to one, by which measures it’s already outsold Move in the same amount of time (which, considering the territory, is none too surprising), and at most it’s outsold Move 5:1.

  26. ncaissie:

    I knew it would because Xbots will buy anything 360.
    And Kinect is aimed more at idiots that are too stupid to figure out the controller. Right CAD?

  27. phranctoast:

    I’d like to see that breakdown of how they count units sold as well.

    An extra Move controller should not count as a unit sale, but in a way it could, as a person may have had the eye previously.

    One thing IMO should definitely not count as a unit sold of Move would be the sub controller. Counting that as a “Move” unit sold would be akin to counting dual shock controllers as PS3′s sold.

  28. Roca.:

    The date is locked in: Gran Turismo 5 will go on sale throughout North America on Wednesday, November 24th.

  29. Roca.:

    ^ Same day for PAL territories

  30. ncaissie:

    I was just in EB and they still do not have Sly collection

  31. Barnabe Jones:

    I would say 475K is pretty darn respectable. Does he honestly think the sales figures were in the millions?

    I’ll be Kinect’s sales will get a good start, and do ok through the end of December. Unless some killer apps come along, the sales are going to taper off pretty quickly.

  32. phranctoast:

    Sly collection was pushed to the 16th I think.

  33. Roca.:

    I have Sly collection at home, bought it yesterday.

  34. ncaissie:

    It’s not here yet.

  35. ncaissie:

    “Does he honestly think the sales figures were in the millions?”
    I think they do. After all it is the “next step to gaming”.

  36. Roca.:

    that’s weird man…

  37. phranctoast:

    475K is a very respectable number. Especially for just one territory.

  38. FahKinSuPah:

    @Liquid

    “btw guys i found a video of that fahkinsupah gets up to on the weekends…..”

    I dunno how you found that video.

    I mean, your dad did make me promise never to tell you about how he likes to dress up and dance around like that. Oh well, at least I kept my promise and I didn’t tell you about what he does in his spare time.

    As for why I was filming that video… Well I believe in spending some of my time helping retarded people, like your dad, and if a retard wants to dress up and dance around then he should be able to.

  39. ncaissie:

    LMAO you guys are funny.

  40. dans303:

    Fahkinsupah – a true hero of the people.

  41. Mike Ferro:

    “dans303: Anyone been keeping tabs on GT5 release date today?”

    Yup – full press release here: http://gamer.blorge.com/2010/11/12/sony-finally-reveals-gran-turismo-5-release-date-nov-24th/

    FYI –
    The actual Move controller is categorized as its own peripheral controller like a DualShock 3.

    From my understanding Move sales are counted via Move controller whether its in a bundle or standalone(Playstation Eye and Sub-controller is considered as accessory).

  42. FahKinSuPah:

    @dans303

    Just call me FahKinSuPahMan

  43. ncaissie:

    LMAO

  44. Liquid:

    fahkin

    okay i said it was a bit of banter but now you are making things personal. . .that last comment just proves how much of a desperate little faggot you are that you have to bring someones deceased family member into a bit of mud slinging on blorge. . .your a desperate piece of shit and your last comment proves that, just shows how low somebody will go. i stated the name calling and shit was banter and not personal, but you made it personal. So fuck off you low life piece of shit.

  45. CarlB:

    Thanks for the clarification Mike… so it could still be anywhere from one up to four Move unit “sales” counted for every one Kinect sale if they are only counting wands.

  46. FahKinSuPah:

    @liquid

    Lets clear something up. You were a dick and I responded.

    Not only did I not know that your dad is dead, BUT I DON”T CARE. Both my parents are dead. It happens. Its a part of life. How about I go did your father up out of his grave and ask him if he cares? I’m pretty sure he won’t mind.

    I am a desperate piece of shit? You know one night last week I had asked myself “Am I a desperate piece of shit?” Of course that was also AFTER I slept with your mother.

    “just shows how low somebody will go.”

    I can go MUCH lower :D

    “So fuck off…”

    Only if you help me ;-)

  47. FahKinSuPah:

    “How about I go did your father up”

    Yeah this line should be

    How about I go dig your father up

    Makes more sense that way

  48. Liquid:

    fuck off you desperate low life cunt, you started off by talking bout me getting fucked up the ass by CON, thas when i started, so drop dead you little fucking faggot. . .just because your “jokes” and comebacks shit and pathetic compared to mine, you acted like the little bitch that you are, and made things personal. hope you dont believe in karma. . . .lowlife fuck.

  49. Kushy:

    @FahKinSuPah

    Ok so you did not know Liquids dad was dead, fair enough! Everyone here can dish it out, so they should be able to take it. However now that you know the fact you go on and push it with “How about I go dig your father up out of his grave and ask him if he cares? I’m pretty sure he won’t mind” I’m sorry to hear about both of your guys losses, really I am. I have a really good sense of humor, but sorry man that is just cruel and uncalled for! Let’s all grow up a bit here and keep people’s mom’s, dad’s and kids out of our banter!

  50. FahKinSuPah:

    @Liquid

    You spend most of your time here insulting people and talking shit and you have no problem doing it at all.

    But when someone does it to you you get pissy. When I joked about your ass being sore from CON you know it was very clearly a joke. When CON was talking shit I had clearly defended you. When I joke about it you go apeshit.

    Like Kushy said, “Everyone here can dish it out, so they should be able to take it.”

    And I do believe in Karma, but talking shit about you online isn’t going to affect my Karma at all.

  51. Liquid:

    fahkin

    i knew it was a joke, thats why i wrote stuff aswell joking, hence the mudslinging was banter nothing personal. . .hell i thought the ask michael jordan for pointers was funny, everyone here knows my insults arent personal. . .but you made it very personal with what you said , and den you still carried on even doh you knew about my dad. . . that was very uncalled for and hurtful. i like everyone on this site, even CAD, but i dont insult them personally, so go you can go fuck yourself.

  52. Kushy:

    “i like everyone on this site, even CAD”

    ok let’s not get carried away! lol ;)

  53. Liquid:

    LOL. . .does anyone know what happened to ivan?

  54. Kushy:

    ^
    Maybe he actually grew up, got a life, got laid, realized he was a huge loser and moved on! Naw who am I kidding, I’m sure he went to another site to be a retard! lol he was the biggest joke on this site!

  55. Liquid:

    hahahahahaha you funny bastard kushy!! LOL

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