Microsoft beta testing new Xbox 360 disc format
Microsoft just revealed that it is beta testing an Xbox 360 system update that involves a new disc format. Major Nelson details out how one can participate in the beta program.
According to Major Nelson, Microsoft is beta testing the next Xbox 360 System Update with its usual preview program. However, unlike the previous NXE preview program, Microsoft will be sending you Halo: Reach for free.
Nelson indicates that as part of the new update, there will be some changes to the Xbox 360 disc format. Before you get too excited – Microsoft is not finally adopting Blu-ray, but is probably looking to change the binary or packaged format of the game on the disc.
The Xbox 360 uses a standard DVD9 format, which allows for discs with up to 9GB in storage. However, Microsoft’s requirements only allow developers to use up to 6.7GB of the 9GB disc. The rest of the space is reserved for security measures and various standardized required code.
This new disc format may allow developers to squeeze a little more onto the disc beyond 6.7GB by reducing the footprint of the security measures. The other possibility is that Microsoft may have changed up its security algorithm to make it more difficult for hackers to rip games off the disc.
It’s definitely good to thoroughly beta test something as significant as changing the disc format of the Xbox 360.
Here are the details of the program via Major Nelson:
Much like we did last year, you’ll need to visit the Microsoft Connect site from this link and sign in with your Windows LIVE ID that is connected to your Xbox LIVE Gamertag. Once you complete the survey that is presented to you, the Connect site will provide program related updates and you will receive a mail once the selection process is completed.
A couple of points before you head off to register:
- We’re looking for multiple thousands of participants, so your chances of making it in are good.
- This opportunity is open to Xbox LIVE Members in US region only*
- To avoid any problems, read the survey carefully and double check all the information you provide.
- While both Xbox LIVE Gold and Silver members can sign up, priority will be given to Gold members in the selection process.
*Due to disc distribution limitations, this beta it will be limited to residents of the United States only.
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March 29th, 2011
I was going to post this here LoL you beat me to it.
Anyways this sounds interesting but there’s really no way to stops us. I wonder if they just going to let developers access to more memory for the game. And make the security tougher but requires less memory. That might help them a bit, maybe then can they get quality games like PS3 has been getting since day one.
Halo: Reach unsold copies LMFAO, at least they giving the game for free instead of just burning it, which is what they should do with that crap.
March 29th, 2011
But the Xbots said they don’t want better disc formats!
March 29th, 2011
Ivan, Reach wasn’t crap. I think it was a worthy successor to the masterpiece that was Halo CE.
March 29th, 2011
all that for a few extra MB of space? lol
just have a small install for games going over 6.7MB.
They will probably go Bluray next gen.
March 30th, 2011
@ Roca
… and the at will be the last we’ll see of M$ in console gaming hopefully.
By history no console company that failed to make it big in Japan survives to live another day.
March 30th, 2011
IVAN
Unsold copies, yeah. .a game that still selling close to 50,000 each week 6 month after launch with total sales around 10,000,000 to give say, 10,000 copies for beta testing is like giving away 0.01%
Ivan, try to remember M$ deals in big numbers, I know that must be hard for you to grasp.
and to the others, the space gained could be up to 500,mb the Xbox can do a fair bit with 500mb, unlike the PS3 which would give you an extra 2 minutes of cut scene or around a couple of streaming textures. .lol. .if only the PS3 would use the extra space it has properly, you only need to look at Ivan’s ripping exploits to see most of the games would fit on a standard DVD if it were not for all the un-necessary crap.
March 30th, 2011
Roca, I’ve already seen reports that M$ has no intention of ever using blu ray.
March 30th, 2011
Never say never.
March 30th, 2011
Well all this shit talking about something like this. PS-fagboys on the blorge never sleep.
I signed up for the beta. It would be nice to finally get picked for a beta like this one.
This beta is actually going to require participants to DL and install a new system update that will work with the new disc format.
I’m pretty sure that these new disc will feature new security features and also cut back on the space required for those security features.
As for the copy of Halo: Reach they will be giving out… It will obviously be in that new format, so it will probably not work on a system without that updated firmware.
At the very least this beta will be very interesting and worth keeping an eye on.
March 30th, 2011
“Ivan, try to remember M$ deals in big numbers, I know that must be hard for you to grasp.”
I wonder how? Maybe from only offering a few ok games and the rest is shit?
Sony has a lot of shit also but at least they offer plenty of good and a few great games.
March 30th, 2011
Godless – “Roca, I’ve already seen reports that M$ has no intention of ever using blu ray”
They might not have an option.
They won’t admit it now becuase by admiting the need of bluray is pretty much saying the PS3 has the edge over the 360 (which it does but MS will stay in denial for as long as they can). Trying to squeeze a few MBs proves it.
Godless – “Ivan, try to remember M$ deals in big numbers”
can’t argue that, $60 (from $50) for online play is definitely a big number…
FahKin – “At the very least this beta will be very interesting and worth keeping an eye on”
What’s interesting about it? a redesign security scheme for its DVD9 format… No one will notice the differences.
March 30th, 2011
“Xbox can do a fair bit with 500mb, unlike the PS3 which would give you an extra 2 minutes of cut scene or around a couple of streaming textures. .lol.”
LMFAO What does that say for the quality of the 3Shitty? LMAO you are so stupid you insult the consol you defend and don’t even know it.
Priceless!
March 30th, 2011
@Godless
“if only the PS3 would use the extra space it has properly”
hopefully you’re being sarcastic…
I’m pretty sure jojo have shut down this arguement many times but you seem to keep ignoring the facts (words from developers).
March 30th, 2011
“As for the copy of Halo: Reach they will be giving out…”
They’ll also count it as sales.
March 30th, 2011
Godless
Here’s a list of games that use all that space and still kicks the 360 a**e in graphics.
- MGS4
- Uncharted 2
- Killzone 2
- Killzone 3
- God of War 3
- Rage
- Mass Effect 2
- Castlevinia LOS
- GT 5
- FF XIII
- Star Ocean 4
- PoP Trilogy
Plus many more that I can’t of at the momment.
March 30th, 2011
LMAO so true Phranc
March 30th, 2011
I wonder why the xbots (Godless, CAD, HH, etc) always have an anti-bluray attitude?
March 30th, 2011
Ivan,
You are so right. Halo sucks but everyone has different tastes. I’d much rarher play Ps3′s exclusive titles. I just keep falling in love with my Ps3 more and more everyday.
March 30th, 2011
It is funny Roca. And some of them support blu ray as they own a BRD player. They realize it is one of the reasons that the PS3 trumps the 360 in overall value and they need to try and down play it as ‘no big deal’.
I just like sitting back and laughing at them.
March 30th, 2011
I don’t understand their “settle for less” mentality. It’s pathetic.
March 30th, 2011
“Well all this shit talking about something like this. PS-fagboys on the blorge never sleep. ”
LOL and you say you are not an xbot. Sure dude. Have fun with your Kinect and last Gen tech.
March 30th, 2011
And call us PS-fagboys because we expect current gen and will not settle for the over priced last gen tech. I kind of feel sorry for them.
March 30th, 2011
defending mediocrity, the xbot way.
http://www.despair.com/med24x30prin.html
March 30th, 2011
Ncaissie
“LOL and you say you are not an xbot. Sure dude. Have fun with your Kinect and last Gen tech.”
I take it that was for me?
1. I don’t and probably never will own Kinect.
2. Last gen tech..lol. .that’s why Crysis 2 blows away just about every game made on the PS3..
This is what I mean about you guys. .you can’t accept that the 360, is just not as shit as you’d like it to be.
lets wait and see what BF3 is like.
As for blu ray. .
1 it has added around £70 to the cost of the PS3
2. very few games “NEED” it, those that use it tend to use it for extras or cut scenes, all the stuff we don’t really need
3 with yellow light failure rates rising to over 12% as playstations start to reach that tender age, we can except more and more of them to fail as the drives reach their finite life span.
March 30th, 2011
“I take it that was for me?”
Nope, Fahkin
March 30th, 2011
“2. Last gen tech..lol. .that’s why Crysis 2 blows away just about every game made on the PS3..”
LMFAO sure retard.
March 30th, 2011
“that’s why Crysis 2 blows away just about every game made on the PS3″
only in your head. KZ3, Uncharted 3, God of War 3, Heavy Rain are all technically superior in graphics. There’s no arguing that.
you sir, failed
Hey Ratchet & Clank is the prettiest game I’ve played. Prettier than Crysis 2 in every one.
March 30th, 2011
@Godless
“lets wait and see what BF3 is like”
and after that, what are we going to wait for? BF4, Crysis 3, Gears 4, Xbox 720? lmao the “let’s wait” excuse is only going to save your ass for a few months but once the game come out you will look as stupid as HH did when he claimed that Alan Wake and Halo Reach will look better than any PS3 game. He said months before the game was out because there wasn’t anything available on 360 to match PS3 graphics.
So here you’re using the same excuse because as of today, there is nothing on 360 that look as good as PS3 exclusives.
March 30th, 2011
Crysis 2 is a multi-platform game and both versions of Crysis 2 are equal. The Xbox360 version of this game is not superior to the Ps3 version so there is no way Crysis 2 is blowing away any game on the Ps3.
March 30th, 2011
See I could equally say that BK Nuts& Bolts , Kameo and viva piñata were great looking games, as good as R&C TOD. it’s an opinion. all these games have strong artistic direction and the end result is we get good looking games.
@ Twilight,
I said “just about”.. because I accept that there are certain games that are in a league of their own with regards to graphics, but my argument is that this is nothing to do with the PS3 hardware, but more to do with great artists with great vision and the ability to then get it onscreen.
the best looking games are all 720p with hi res textures, both consoles can do this both have the same output capabilities, so there is nothing to stop the 360 displaying exactly the same image as the PS3 & vice versa. .it’s all about the guys who build the environments and the way they paint them.
it’s been proven over and over that both machine despite working in radically different ways end up with results so similar is bloody hard to pick a winner most of the time.
For now the PS3 has some top quality devs who are producing some great games, there’s nothing to say that other devs will step up and start producing games that look better on both systems, Crysis2 is a good example as it rates higher than most (NOT ALL) PS3 exclusives.
March 30th, 2011
wait…..DVD is somehow NOT last gen tech?
I’m going to LOL when the next box is using BRD tech.
March 30th, 2011
@Godless
1. “it has added around £70 to the cost of the PS3″
uhmmm, lets see (similar models):
PS3 = $299.99
360 = $299.99
so what’s adding £70 more to the 360?… yeah, you’re argument is flawed and kind of lame.
2. “very few games “NEED” it, those that use it tend to use it for extras or cut scenes, all the stuff we don’t really need”
How about GoW3, Uncharted 1 & 2, Killzone 2 & 3, GT5, GOW collection, Dead Space, RE5, Batman:AA, R&C, DC Universe, Lost Planet, LA Noire, Rage and many others.
The fact is that most games are small in size because of the 360 limitations (developers’ word, not mine) but even then, look at RE5 and the difference in size is something like 7.5GB vs 13GB…The game is the same and kind of look the same but the PS3 versions support higher quality audio codec while the 360 version use a averave one and still compressed.
3 “with yellow light failure rates rising to over 12% as playstations start to reach that tender age, we can except more and more of them to fail as the drives reach their finite life span.”
The YLOD is a 60GB issue because of the emotion engine it has on it (PS2 chip) and the official Sony statement on YLOD issues was about 0.5%. The 60GB model doesn’t even cover 12% of the total install base lmao.
One thing is for sure, you will make shit up (and look stupid) just to support MS. The YLOD has nothing to nothing to do with the Bluray drive…get your facts straight before posting nonsense okay pal
March 30th, 2011
@Godless
It has been proven that PS3 games cannot be done on 360 unless major compressing & cuttin’out work is done to the overall game.
Your resolution arguement was a good try but res is not all it takes to make a game graphically impressive. Uncharted 2 is 720p….5 years into the 360′s life cycle and there is nothing close to it.
@Godless
“Crysis2 is a good example as it rates higher than most (NOT ALL) PS3 exclusives”
Yeah, it does look better than Resistance, Socom Confrontation, Infamous, ModNation Racers and Buzz <- that is certainly "Most" but "not all"
March 30th, 2011
Godless,
I understand your point. It is a point my friend makes quite often but my answer to this point is always the same. Like you, my friend believes that the Xbox360 is capable of producing similar graphics as the Ps3. My short answer is “show me the graphics then.” There is no Xbox360 game that looks better then the top Ps3 games.
March 30th, 2011
but but but….getting up to swap discs is not that big a deal.
oh and upscaled DVD’s look just as good.
March 30th, 2011
Guys, I’ve been going thru most of post at this blorge and one of the thing mostly discussed are graphic superiority of ps3 vs Xbox. U guys that hated xbox said gears or halo has bad graphic which was irrelevant, if u compare to uncharted or (list exclusives here…). PS3 uses different architecture than xbox so how can a comparison make when apple is not orange. Even crysis 2 or mass effect those game are created different method. It’s probbly bad to use apple or orange but PC and ps3 is different architecture and so does crysis 2 can be compared between ps3, xbox and ps3?
So ps3 graphic is good then more hats to u, but as far as xbox is concern graphic is more like oh well. Furthermore it’s not like uncharted will be ported to xbox.
To me developers create exclusive loses out the most because it caters only 1 device and I am referring to halo, fable, uncharted, forza, god of war, well u got the idea. Bottomline is listing exclusive really getting old.
March 30th, 2011
“Bottom line is listing exclusive really getting old.” It certainly is for Xbots. After all, you really don’t have any exclusive games to talk about.
March 30th, 2011
“To me developers create exclusive loses out the most because it caters only 1 device and I am referring to halo, fable, uncharted, forza, god of war, well u got the idea. Bottomline is listing exclusive really getting old.”
Maybe, Maybe not. The publishers pushing the exclusive do so more enthusiastic with more marketing. In the end many times you can see an exclusive selling better or just being better than a comparable non exclusive.
Exclusives define a console. They also usually cater better to the technology within the specific console and in many cases differentiate themselves graphically superior to many third party multi platform titles.
Microsoft knows this as well. It’s the main reason Gears of War 2 never went to the PC.
The Gears franchise is one of those defining exclusives.
March 30th, 2011
exclusive is non-existant on 360, that’s why is getting old. On the other hand (on PS3), it has never been better.
March 30th, 2011
U all missing the point, those exclusive has different architecture and format. What I meant is for uncharted to be ported requires scaling down the graphic from cell to graphic card etc. Almost all the multi platform requires developer to work twice and so far it’s pretty close graphic wise.
Xbox and pc works pretty much the same meaning it uses dx 10 or 11 so it makes sense for anybody who release game for pc can be made xbox. With that said almost any game that uses MS direct X is possible.
March 30th, 2011
Fuck…im pretty sick and tired of dumbasses like Captainbirdman( in regards to what im about to say) godless and the other xbots on here that have the same mentality:
WHERE are the fucking 360 EXCLUSIVES that look BETTER than:
Uncharted
Metal Gear Solid
God of War 3
Ratchet and Clank
Infamous 2
Killzone 2
Killzone 3
And that is to name JUST A FEW…
I ll tell you idiots where…NO WHERE because BLU RAY ALLOWS the PS3 to have NON COMPRESSED fucking textures among other TECHNOLOGICAL techniques that ONLY can be done on the PS3…
Crysis 2 runs on BOTH systems…and that is only ONE fucking game…..
to quote twilight you dumbshits:
“My short answer is “show me the graphics then.” There is no Xbox360 game that looks better then the top Ps3 games.”
And for like the thousandth and first time:
Multiplats dont look better on 360…SOME do AND SOME DONT<—i notice you faggots dont bring this little tid bit up AT ALL…
Why? Lets do this one last time for Godless and the other fucking idiots:
This is coming from the following fucking developers you pinche morons:
Square-Enix
Capcom
EA
DICE
Rockstar
Final Fantasy had to CUT i.e, TAKE OUT OF THE GAME
-town hubs
-exploration
Why? Because it WOULD NOT FUCKING FIT on DVD9 discs that they wanted too…put fucking two and two together you dumbshits…that means BLU RAY ENHANCES GRAPHICS( 720p 360, 1080p ps3…oh they are 'just cut scenes" guess the 360 is a fucking bitch of system as it cant handle 'cutscenes'.) AND GAMEPLAY
What would the reviews of both games look like if the PS3 version was able to add town hubs, more exploration in its levels…yeah shut the fuck up you piece of shit xbots..next game..
Lost Planet:
WHOLE levels were cut due to DVD9 being the restriction..
Guess what the reviews would like if the PS3 were allowed to have those levels….again shut the fuck up you piece of shit xbots….next game..
EA
They said it themselves, they want the PS3 to be the lead development console because as whole GRAPHICS GO UP WHEN PRIMARILY DEVELOPING ON THE PS3…shut the fuck up again xbot faggots..
DICE
recently gave kudos to Sony/Guerilla Games for…*gasp*…being the only ones besides them and crytek for pushing the GRAPHICAL fucking envelope…shut the fuck up and go back to playing yet more Halo…<—which by the way (aside from the multiplayer ) is a crap game with crap single player campaign…graphically at least…
Rockstar
They've admitted to CUTTING an ENTIRE CITY due to…yet again the 360s fucking restrictions…guess what the reviews would look like if the PS3 were allowed to have included that level…again…
Im sorry for my blatant and aggressive attack but im sick and tired of having to repeat myself with fucking facts that have been posted HERE ON BLORGE yet you faggots ( and no im not a homophobe, but lets dance if you want to call me out on this, i talk how i talk, just like people live how they live so fuck off or lets do the dance ) choose to ignore these FACTS…let me repeat..!!!FACTS!!!…about the graphical superiority the PS3 has over the 360..
Multiplats cancel each other out as some games look better on 360 and some on PS3…
Exclusives allow the 1st party studio to really have at it with the system and the PS3 absolutely fucking murders anything and EVERYTHING the 360 has…..FACT
Xbox faggot: " the 360 is capable"
Okay then either MS studios are:
1. fucking piss poor developers, who HAVE NOT topped a ps3 game in graphics since 2008
2. the 360 CANNOT handle it..
/ jojo out!
March 30th, 2011
again sorry for the hostile and aggressive demeanor, just venting and really don’t mean anything by it
toodle loo muthafuckas!! <–name that movie lol
March 30th, 2011
LOL @Jojo, tell it like it is!!
March 30th, 2011
Modern Warfare 3 for NGP can’t wait since i hate BATTLEFIELD the one on Xbox n PS only the PC BATTLEFIELD are great and the PS2.
No other company can come close to making awesome fun high profile games like Sony.
Sony buys talent when they see it.
Media Molecule
Zipper Interactive
Naughty Dog
Evolution Studios
Guerilla Games
Eidetic
BigBig Studios
and offer to buy Insomniac Games
Sony should buy EA and Activision
March 30th, 2011
” toodle loo muthafuckas!! <–name that movie lol"
The Hangover.
And did you just call me an Xbot?
Fuck everything else, that's horseshit
March 30th, 2011
http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi1262721561/
March 31st, 2011
All this talk of stuff getting cut out of games..
why the f*** don’t they just leave it in on the PS3 version, thereby giving the PS3 the better version of the game?
This is what would make the PS3 the machine to have, bigger better games.
wait, wait don’t tell, me M$ is paying them to strip there game down. so that the Xbox doesn’t look bad.
Personally I think that excuse is a crock of shit, why the hell would they remove content they didn’t have to, Why doesn’t Sony encourage them to keep the content,
I think the truth is I think maybe the content didn’t exist but they “thought about doing it”, then decided it wasn’t worth doing.
there is no gain whatsoever for a dev to cut content from a game on one platform just so it can be the same as the lower platform spec, in the 30 years I’ve been a gamer this has never EVER been the case, always the best platform gets the best version of the game, that’s just the way it has always been. Even the PC which sells a tiny fraction of what the consoles sell, gets the best version of the games, it’s a pathetically hollow excuse, with no valid reasoning behind it.
your right about the blu ray being used for uncompressed textures, this is often the only difference in the games, but the difference it makes to the game is nothing, because using compressed textures just gives the machine more to do, the final output to screen is the same. find me a game where the PS3 uncompressed textures look better than the 360 compressed textures.
I think, what has given the PS3 the better looking games is the guys doing the hard work programming them, if these guys had but there talent to work on the Xbox, I would bet they would have still been able to do what they have done (and don’t bother with the links to What the PS3 devs say about how “all powerful” the PS3 is..I can smell that shit a thousand miles away)
Sad thing is that the PS3 fanboys won’t ever admit that the Xbox has great looking games, the likes of Splinter cell, Prince of Persia, Fable 3, Reach and Forza are up there with the best looking PS3 stuff but you just would never admit it unless these games were on the PS3.
even with the likes of Crisis 2 you play it down, we still have Forza 4 and Gears 3 this year, I can only hope they do the system justice.
March 31st, 2011
Weird. I own all the prince of persia games on ps3.
March 31st, 2011
The cut content of FFIII just gives them the excuse for III-2
March 31st, 2011
@Godless.
It is like putting an HD video on a 1GB stick or a 16GB stick. You would get it on but the 1GB stick would me compressed to Shit.
March 31st, 2011
Ncassie
Compression doesn’t matter, so long as it is lossless,
The problems are more to do with the fact that the computer has to spend time decompressing the image.
up until now, the 360 has managed to do this without impacting the games, so for now it doesn’t matter.
@ phranc. .yes I just picked random games that I remember looking good, some not necessarily exclusive.
speaking of great looking games, just saw some footage of Dirt 3 in HMV ..wow. .it looks out of this world. not sure which platform I was looking at but it was stunning
March 31st, 2011
“why the f*** don’t they just leave it in on the PS3 version, thereby giving the PS3 the better version of the game?”
because then they’ll hear it from xbots like you whining about it…
March 31st, 2011
I can’t wait for DiRT 3. DiRT 2 is one of my plats and an awesome game.
I think 3 is out late May iirc.
March 31st, 2011
“I think the truth is I think maybe the content didn’t exist but they “thought about doing it”, then decided it wasn’t worth doing”
^ Personally I think that “excuse” is a crock of shit
I think you’re trying too hard now.
I have to say, Godless does a pretty good job ignoring certain comments. He doesn’t replay to any comment that proves him wrong while coming out with more lame excusus to avoid those comments
March 31st, 2011
“Sad thing is that the PS3 fanboys won’t ever admit that the Xbox has great looking games, the likes of Splinter cell, Prince of Persia, Fable 3, Reach and Forza are up there with the best looking PS3 stuff but you just would never admit it unless these games were on the PS3″
Splinter Cell looks shitty… MGS4 (which is 2 years older) looks and play 10x better.
Fable 3? LMAO
Which one? one is shitty looking and the other one is cell-shaded…neither are graphically impressive.
Reach looks dated… don’t expect it to win any graphics award anytime soon.
as jojo and twilight have said – “show us the games”
any game on 360 that look as good as Uncharted, Heavy Rain, GOW3, KZ3, R&C, MGS4?
March 31st, 2011
Roca, what is it you think I’m ignoring?
I’ve already said that there are games that look better on the PS3 and I have given my opinion as to why I think they are better looking.
I’m going to leave you in your delusion that the Xbox is a last gen POS as you call it, because it’s you that looks like a fool when the games are just as good as those on the PS3, excluding a few gems where the devs have done a fantastic job.
As for Fable. .until you play it (and you clearly haven’t) you can’t judge it. if all RPG games had the graphics of Fable 3 then we would have some amazing games, Fable falls over due to overly simplistic gaming, not on graphics.
March 31st, 2011
“the likes of Splinter Cell, Prince Of Persia, Fable 3, Reach, and Forza are up there with the best Ps3 looking stuff but you would never admit it unless these games were on the Ps3.”
Wrong. I guess this is what the issue is. Beauty is definetely in the eye of the beholder. It has nothing to do with the games being on Xbox360 only. If Ps3 games were on Xbox360 , I would be saying the same thing. I don’t consider any of the games that you mentioned to be graphically impressive games. The games that impress me graphically are games like Castlevania Lords Of Shadows, God Of War 3, Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, Heavenly Sword, and Mass Effect 2.
March 31st, 2011
@Godless
“Roca, what is it you think I’m ignoring?”
-the fact that you were wrong about about the bluray drive causing hardware issues on PS3.
-the fact that you said BD makes the PS3 more expensive while forgetting the 360 and PS3 cost $299.99 (please, if you’re smart don’t bring 2006 as an excuse)
-the fact that MS needs bluray, watching them trying to squeeze out a few more MBs is enough to prove this.
-You said BD is only good for cut scenes, but again, u were wrong. as most PS3 games have uncompressed graphics and higher quality audio codec and better audio format support. Not only that but in many cases with have seen games having extra content because of Bluray. Games like Mafia II, RDR, Dead Space 2, Medal of Honor and many other have extra content on PS3.
-you claimed 360 can produce PS3 quality graphics but you can’t come up with a list of games looking as good as PS3 exclusives.
March 31st, 2011
@Godless
Fable 3 sucks (graphically)
http://unbored.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Fable_3-3.jpg
God of War Collection has better graphics, Fable has similar graphics to Brutal Legend and Overlord.
March 31st, 2011
“why the f*** don’t they just leave it in on the PS3 version, thereby giving the PS3 the better version of the game?”
Because MS paid them big time retard. Also they try not to look bias so they make the games the same. It wouldn’t look good on their part if they developed properly for the PS3
March 31st, 2011
“Personally I think that excuse is a crock of shit, why the hell would they remove content they didn’t have to, Why doesn’t Sony encourage them to keep the content,”
It’s called PR (Public Relations) If the PS3 version looked 10X better then you idiots would cry and not buy that game and any other games from that Dev or Publisher. Just like I stick mostly to the exclusives because most are done right.
March 31st, 2011
“Compression doesn’t matter, so long as it is lossless,”
LMFAO Almost fell out of my chair. Just like upscale looks just as good as native 1080p right? LOL idiot.
March 31st, 2011
“-You said BD is only good for cut scenes, but again, u were wrong.”
Does the Medal of Honor have the first game on the 360 version or is that game only on the PS3?
March 31st, 2011
“Fable 3 sucks (graphically)”
You can’t even make out the faces.
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2009/08/godofwar2hdomg.jpg
March 31st, 2011
@godless
many of us have stated that there are good looking games on the 360, gears of war being one them along with fable….what we are saying is….since gears 2….. ms has not been pushing the envelope at all…as for bd being onky good for cut scenes, ive kisted all the actual GAME content that has been cut…also, lossless or not compressed will ALWAYS net a loss in quality…
@ birdman, no i didnt mean to clump you into the xbox fanboy camp, my bad!
@ roca, while not graphically/ technologically a marvel, fable 3 is still a good looking game is their main point and it is
March 31st, 2011
@ godless
you must not have been paying attention in your 30 years but here goes the latest example
battlefield bad company 2, you said that the best system gets the best version…okay then , graphics aside, why is bfbc2 on pc NOT have 64 player battles..the pc can more than handle it as previous bf versions have that….why are there still the same amount of vehicle per map, when previous bfs have had twice as many…..just some food for thought buddy as i agree with you in that i dont understand why the devs, or why sony lets the devs cut shit out…
March 31st, 2011
“fable 3 is still a good looking game”
So is LBP
Sorry but I thought we’re talking about top notch graphics… I guess that to be fair we have to lower our standards for xbots.
March 31st, 2011
jojo
My guess is the new maps for BF BC2 are not designed to have more players, it would affect the game balancing. although I admit some of them feel like they could have more players.
I’m not sure why the PC restricts the number of players, but I can 100% guarantee it’s got bog all to do with the limitations of the Xbox..
Roca. .
If you truly believe the PS3 games are being held back because of whining Xbox owners, then you truly are a loony.
You’re one of those people that when the truth is just too obvious, you try to look harder for another answer, and find one, usually the very one you were looking for in the first place.
March 31st, 2011
PS3 games are not being held back.. Multiplatform games are… that’s why none of them look as impressive as the PS3 exclusives.
You have yet to reply to you own [made up] arguements…you ask: “Roca, what is it you think I’m ignoring?” – then I listed them and you still ignoring them.
Pathetic
btw, BF3 is 64 players on PC and 24 on consoles because of 360.
March 31st, 2011
@godless
my example was just an example of how a stronger platform (pc) gets restricted to to the lowest common denominator (ps3,360) just how multiplatform games made for only 2 consoles (ps3, 360) gets restricted to the lowest common denominator (360) despite there being a stronger console (ps3)
March 31st, 2011
“PS3 games are not being held back.. Multiplatform games are… that’s why none of them look as impressive as the PS3 exclusives.”
There is no point dude. They are too stupid to understand this. Or they are just in denial.
March 31st, 2011
The graphics on Xbox360 games are not as good as Ps3 games. It is fine to be content with Xbox360′s graphics but the fact is Ps3 games have better graphics then Xbox360 games. Also, the disc format that Microsoft uses has become an issue because of space limitations. You have to be in denial or just a blind fanboy not believe this. This is why Microsoft is working on re-formating the disc for more space.
March 31st, 2011
@Twilight
Really, Crysis 2 proved on an asthetics level, nothing done on PS3 yet is incapable of being surpassed or reproduced by what is capable on 360.
The best looking games on PS3 are pretty much considered to be Uncharted 2 and Killzone 3. However, Crysis 2 has been called the best looking game on consoles by a few pro-PS3 websites and reviewers, with most stating there is no difference between versions or the 360 version is better.
The fact that the 360 version alone is even being compared to Killzone 3 is something to cause serious alarm (especially to PS3 fanboys. Just look at the other threads…).
The PS3 is a toddler. A child prodigy, yes, but still a child, meaning it has things to learn and has yet to hit it’s stride. The PS3 is no doubt the most powerful home console ever, but it has yet to produce the stunning graphics it it REALLY capable of.
Crysis 2 proves this.
March 31st, 2011
CaptBirdman,
Lol. Crysis 2 is just one game. Ps3′s exclusive titles overall still have better graphics then Xbox360′s titles.
March 31st, 2011
You’re right and I agree. No Xbox exclusive comes close.
I’m just saying as far as today, graphical capability (or perhaps because of developers’ laziness) on 360 & PS3 are still equal.
I wish, like every PS3 fan, that this wasn’t the case, but it is. You say it’s just one game, but that one game proved the 360 is able to produce games that are graphically even or better than the very best on PS3. (I’m not saying better than what PS3 is capable of, just the ones that exist NOW)
I’m not a 360 hater, per se, but I’m definitely not a big fan. But I am not blind or stupid, and anyone that says a 360 as of today is incapable of graphics on par with a Killzone 3 is.
March 31st, 2011
Sony’s team is the dream unbeatable fantasy team. Those developers excel at every sequel and every game they develop. Sony is the elite company in video game. Sony sets the standard for everything video game and electronic. Sony is the most talented developer to ever live.
Microsoft is fighting to get some new MB free LMFAO what a sorry ass company Microsoft is. MICROSOFT SHOULD ASK SONY FOR THE LEFTOVER GIGABYTES SO THEY CAN GET A GAME ON A SINGLE DISC LOL.
March 31st, 2011
One multi-platform game doesn’t give the Xbox360 a graphics pass. Ps3 exclusive games for years now have had better graphics then Xbox360 games. It’s really pathetic that a multi-platform title is Xbox360′s claim to fame for best graphics. Afterall, Alan Wake, Halo Reach, and Gears Of War still can’t compete in the graphics department with games like Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, Killzone 3, and God Of War 3.
March 31st, 2011
I think you’re missing my point.
I’m saying that all it took was a talented team. If microsoft had a team like Naughty Dog…
If there exists a game on 360 capable of being compared to the PS3′s top guns, then, multiplatform or not, then there exists a game on 360 capable of being compared to the PS3′s top guns.
PS3 is not at it’s potential yet. If you disagree, you’re undermining the capabilities of Playstation.
March 31st, 2011
PlayStation 3 is a beast with a lot of untouched capabilities Xbox 360 is all outer juice. When you pay more you usually get more. PS3 cost Sony $850 to make and now less then $200.
March 31st, 2011
“I think you’re missing my point.”
You are missing ours, but ill learn you birdman!!
“I’m saying that all it took was a talented team. If microsoft had a team like Naughty Dog…”
At this Kinect rate, there won’t be, at the rate MS is shedding 1st party developers…there won’t be for a long time….and when there is, i will be the first to say kudos, while playing my playstation 5…
“If there exists a game on 360 capable of being compared to the PS3?s top guns, then, multiplatform or not, then there exists a game on 360 capable of being compared to the PS3?s top guns.”
But that would also be a gun for the PS3….so lets see:
Big Guns SOny:
Killzone 3
Crysis 2
Big Guns MS:
Crysis 2
Seems MS is just outgunned….
“PS3 is not at it’s potential yet. If you disagree, you’re undermining the capabilities of Playstation.”
I totally agree here and might i add, i believe the 360 has juice in it as well, but the sad thing is, i don’t believe we will ever see the 360s potential…
given MS’ track record, they will discard/abandon the platform the first chance they get and make you pay for the new upgrade…just like Vista…..just like the original xbox….just like the Zune….just like W7M…just like LIVE…its how MS operates, fuck the customer…as long as we get the checks ( don’t get into the whole all corps. want money, we know all of them do, but MS is the face of greedy evil corps for the above reasons )
March 31st, 2011
I’m not saying one system is outgunning the other, just saying there is a game on 360 comparable to what is considered the pinnacle of PS3 games.
This all goes back to my original point– PS3 is obviously no where near it’s max. To even believe Killzone is the best PS3 can do is literally insane.
March 31st, 2011
Off Topic
Look like Phranc was right about his prediction on PS3 surpassing the 360 before April
“Sony’s PS3 games console passed Microsoft’s Xbox 360 to become the number two TV console worldwide by the end of 2010, according to the latest research published by Strategy Analytics’ Connected Home Devices service. According to the report, “Global TV Games Console Forecast: Will New Sensor Technology Revive the Demand?”, the active installed base of PS3s reached 43.4 million by the end of 2010, compared to 42.9 million Xbox 360s. Nintendo’s Wii remained the number one global TV console with 75.5 million active devices.”
http://www.sunherald.com/2011/03/31/2989252/strategy-analytics-ps3-passes.html
March 31st, 2011
but we can say Killzone 3 is currently at the top of that best pile, or at least near the top
March 31st, 2011
“near the top”
To kill this inane argument, ok. I still personally think the game is ugly, but hey, who gives a shit?
@Roca
So that’s why Kev disappeared? I thought it was Carl’s old man smell….
March 31st, 2011
You mean Kev and all the other xbots lol..
March 31st, 2011
fine fine I get it ps3 community says Halo sux, especially the graphic, right? Are we talking Halo reach? What part of the graphic that was bad? or is it just bad? (seriously ppl, pls don’t say yes to that last question).
I’ll list the bad graphic
-Dragon age 1 and 2 (the blood splatter is unrealistic). I bought it after playing the demo though.
-Fallout (own all the dlc and loving it)
-Doom (the original one, hell ya)
-Elders scroll oblivion (i am bad ass on that one)
need I say more? It’s a fact that it’s a very good game and I very damn well love those game. In fact, I still play Age of Empire 2.
Halo Reach might not have the best graphic but it’s hell lot better than those game I listed above. On top of that little touches here and there that make this game the best. If I happen to shoot an ally ai, they’ll mutter something funny and if you throw grenade at Covenants they’ll shout and scramble.
4 ppl co-op and Weapon that has limited ammo which encourage you to try out other 20 weapons you can use from ally or covenants. In hardest mode, sniper are everywhere, 1 shot kill and no aim assists either.
Vehicles and space battle
Maybe uncharted 2 has the best graphic but enlighten me what else does it have? How bout re-playability?
Before I forget those game like Killzone, uncharted, god of wars has tremendous amount of support from Sony to get the kind of quality that you ppl rave about. Even that racing game that took 5 years to develop.
With the price of blu ray going down, shouldn’t the price of PS3 down too?
PS3 can’t compete with anyone else because there’s nothing to compare. Not a good thing, mind you. The reason is simple if a classroom only has 1 student, that student is the smartest one right? Guys please don’t compare uncharted, god of war or Gran turismo to halo as they are not even remotely the same. I choose gameplay over graphic.
March 31st, 2011
1 more thing about halo reach is building your own map. I heard about it but haven’t try it out yet. Is it ez to do?
April 1st, 2011
“NeedsOn top of that little touches here and there that make this game the best. If I happen to shoot an ally ai, they’ll mutter something funny and if you throw grenade at Covenants they’ll shout and scramble.”
Practically every FPS does this.
“NeedsMaybe uncharted 2 has the best graphic but enlighten me what else does it have? How bout re-playability?”
Both have a linear SP mode and a MP mode. What’s the difference in re-playability there?
“NeedsPS3 can’t compete with anyone else because there’s nothing to compare. Not a good thing, mind you.”
Are you saying PS3 has no equal? I don’t really get what you mean here which, because of the quality of your post, is very ‘ez’ to do.
April 1st, 2011
Firstly
Thanks to Birdman for more eloquently stating what I was trying to say (dyslexia’s a bitch)
Just to clarify, I have agreed all along that the PS3 has some better looking games.
My guess is that Forza 4 and Gears 3 will both take top slots in best looking 360 games and be comparable to some of the best PS3 has on offer, with BF3 probably taking top slot on both consoles.
I think “IF” this gen were to have a further 10 years then we would see the PS3 slowly pull ahead as programmers get a handle on how to get the most out of it, but the truth is that this gen has around 2 years before we see the next gen launched along side, at this point the devs will no longer invest time on either the PS3 or the 360 but be focusing on the new platforms.
On another note, Anyone know what’s up with TFOS? He sent me a message saying he was going to be gone and that he was deleting his PS3 account. .not seen him on here for a around a week.
hope all is ok with him.
April 1st, 2011
PS3 already pulled ahead (since 2008)…so idk what are you talking about… making stuff up as you go again?
April 1st, 2011
@ godless
cool man i get your points but just wanna remind ya that the 360 is on its 6th year and the ps3 5th…kinect and move just released giving this generation, like you said another 2 years….that woukd make it 7/6 year cycle….that 10 year plan is looking more and more viable, especially with the economy being the way its at, developers will be in no rush to start a new generation, not when they finally have their game engines optimized and their development costs finalyy (barely) coming down….they will be in no hurry to go back to sky high costs…and neither are the consumers…
In two years time we’ll see i guess, but couoled with the recent japan tragedy, thats going to slow down a lot of japanese development….
April 1st, 2011
So many games got cancelled lately.
SOE cancelled The Agency (PC/PS3 MMO).
IMO, that game never look good…
I heard they are now working on a revolutionary new entry of Everquest and a sequel for Planetside.
Free Realms is a cool game, the best thing about it is that it’s free (with paid upgrades) but it does offers alot of great and addicting contents. The PSN store has a lifetime membership (with all premuin stuff included) for just $35… My girlfriend loved it so I might get the membership for her.
April 1st, 2011
“developers will be in no rush to start a new generation, not when they finally have their game engines optimized and their development costs finalyy (barely) coming down….they will be in no hurry to go back to sky high costs…and neither are the consumers…”
Your logic is flawed. When they stop improving the games they will have to move on. people want the next big thing and not more of the same. I want the next big thing but when it comes to games like gow 3 and u2 I would buy more of the same. I loved the story as well as the game play. COD BO story sucks and is hard to follow.
Move will not carry the PS3 2 years. Not a fucking chance dude. As for Kinect I don’t care. I’m not ready for the PS4 simply because I have no time at the moment. That is changing this week.
April 2nd, 2011
“Move will not carry the PS3 2 years.”
PS3′s untapped potential combined with new engines will. Even so, in the past, consoles did not stop improving graphics just because the next gen of consoles were released.
The downturn may delay the next gen of home consoles (and to some extent perhaps already has), but I think we will see the NXbox sometime next year (especially now that it is selling the least in ww sales), then Wii2/PS4 in 2013 if we don’t do a replay of the Great Depression.
April 3rd, 2011
PS4 will launch in late 2015 that’s my prediction. And Microsoft will fall 3 years before that PlayStation launches.
April 4th, 2011
Ivan
Have you ever made a prediction that came true?
I’m guessing you haven’t
April 5th, 2011
@ncaissie
I didn’t mean to say that move will carry sony for the next 2 years…I meant in conjunction to how they are doing now, they have a least 2 solid years:
2011
Twisted metal
Killzone 3
uncharted 3
Ratchet and clank
Resistance 3
That’s enough games to hold sony off till november, if released now month by month…that’s not including:
starhawk
Socom
The last guardian or x game..
On top of that…there are the multiplats….oh and any major Move title they got in the works….Ncaissie…Sony has this on lock
That’s a solid game lineup for the rest of this year…and that’s just the exclusives….add in the multi plats and this year is done
seems my 2 year prediction isn’t too far fetched….as some of these titles will leak into next year…
I’m a bit with carl, I believe next year we will start to hear about the next gen