Cliff Bleszinski: 8 out of 10 Gears of War 3 reviewers are haters

September 17, 2011

Cliff Bleszinski: 8 out of 10 Gears of War 3 revewers are haters With Gears of War 3 launching next week, many review outlets have started posting their impressions of the game recently. Overall the game has been getting a lot of positive reviews, although Cliff Bleszinski doesn’t seem too happy with some of the scores.

In an interview with VG247, when asked if Bleszinski were pleased with the review scores he stated, “Doing great, apart from a couple of haters.”

Several review sites such as Eurogamer, Desturctoid, and The Escapist all gave the game an 8  out of 10. According to Bleszinski, Eurogamer’s review of Gears of War 3 in particular didn’t sit well with him. He stated:

You know, I didn’t quite gather it. I don’t want to come across as defensive. How do I phrase this properly? When people rated Gear 2 higher than Gears 3, it kind of upset me because I know Gears 3 is a better game on every level.

VG247 pressed Bleszinski to elaborate on why he felt Gears 3 should be rated higher than Gears 2 when according to the site, many gamers do not seem to agree on this.

He stated:

The added development time is one of the things that allowed us to make it like that. We’ve embraced Gears 1’s strengths, learned from Gears 2’s weaknesses, and hit a sweet spot between the two. Honestly, I think that’s the gist of it all.

I do believe Gears 3 may very well be better than Gears 2, but the bar has been raised so high with shooters today, that in most cases reviewers will not give a game top marks unless it makes a significant leap. This may also be a challenge for many of the upcoming shooters this year such as Modern Warfare 3, Battlefield 3 and Uncharted 3.

Gears of War 3 is currently sitting comfortably at 91/100 on Metacritic with 47 reviews so far.



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60 Responses to “Cliff Bleszinski: 8 out of 10 Gears of War 3 reviewers are haters”

  1. Ivan_PSP:

    You will be proud to know that I cancelled my Gears of War 3 pre-order from GameStop and added the $5 to my UNCHARTED 3: Drake’s Deception Collector’s Edition.

    Cliff should just shut the fuck he’s is obviously trying to be on the news to sell some extra copies common sense. We all know Eurogamer always no matter what game you can hardly get a 9 from them they are pure haters. But Gears of War 3 truly sucks compare to previous and I know because well I got the leaked version and that weak story is laughable.

    What can they do to Gears of War 3 that they didn’t in 2 besides new story and some added animation the Xbox 360 is maxed out.

  2. oldschool1987:

    I think the game is getting fantastic reviews! He needs to calm down lol. A lot of sequels get lower scores than the predecessor, even if it is better. LBP2 is rated slightly lower than the 1st, even though every single review claims it’s better, it happens.

    The only time a game is likely to get rated higher is if the gameplay isn’t exactly the same as the 1st one, like Assassins Creed 2, Uncharted 2 and Resident Evil 4.

    The guy should be happy with the scores it’s getting. If I made the game I would be extremely proud. It’s not going to get much better reviews as the other 2 because the gameplay is unchanged, which is how I would want to end the trilogy. Most reviewers knock points off for this though.

  3. oldschool1987:

    “You will be proud to know that I cancelled my Gears of War 3 pre-order from GameStop and added the $5 to my UNCHARTED 3: Drake’s Deception Collector’s Edition.”

    Why would that make me proud? I do what an actual gamer does and gets both games.

  4. ncaissie:

    Oh no you didn’t!

  5. ncaissie:

    LMFAO this should get the chats going.

    Good job Mike! :D

  6. me_:

    His bonus is probably linked to the metacritic score.

    Poor baby.

  7. MAK:

    CLIFF!
    You son of a bitch! :D …….Whats a matta? huh? Microsoft got you pushing too many pencils? Had enough?

    Hes being a big baby bc not everyone is a Gears no-life. Calling them haters is just a cover up. Id say hes just shocked because he thought all the reviews would be good because its the most over hyped and over rated game.

    Well guess what, its gahbage. Gears 1 was the best. Now they milked it and focused more on multiplayer. Fags

  8. ncaissie:

    It’s not everyone’s #1 choice but it will sell because there is nothing else to get for the $300 investment.

  9. Roca.:

    “His bonus is probably linked to the metacritic score”

    that will be fucked up for any developer.

  10. Ivan_PSP:

    Microsoft is not paying Epic Games everything they agreed before in the contract so maybe that’s why he is crying about low score.

    Gears of War series is like Call of Duty series the only thing that they really change is the story the rest is copy paste.

    Mark wants to make Gears of War for PlayStation Vita and Epic Games owns the IP completely and he is the president of Epic Games. Even the Unreal Engine creator wants Gear on PSV.

  11. MAK:

    “Mark wants to make Gears of War for PlayStation Vita and Epic Games owns the IP completely and he is the president of Epic Games. Even the Unreal Engine creator wants Gear on PSV.”

    Yeah i know. And when i told my xbot friend, he got all defense saying “No, they would never do that. Its an Xbox exlu..”

    “No, Im serious. They are actually thinking about putting it on the VIta”

    Asshole. So ignorant to think that they wouldnt think about putting it on Vita. No developer likes being held back by Microsoft. Why wouldnt any developer think about making games for the PlayStation brand.

  12. CON:

    I still expect this game to still be in the 90s for metacritic. Looks awesome!

  13. FahKinSuPah:

    Maybe Cliffy B feels that way because Epic put every bit of their hearts and souls into making Gears 3. Maybe its a labor of love and they wanted the last game in the series to be as good as it possibly could be. If this was the case than no wonder Cliffy B feels as he does.

  14. ncaissie:

    You are right fahk. No one likes to hear negative feedback on their work. Even if it is true.

  15. FahKinSuPah:

    @ncaissie

    I love how you sneak that last little part in there. You can tell your a true Sony fag-boy. :D

    Gears 3 comes out in 2 days. I will be getting mine release date delivery from Amazon.

    Then I have tuesday and wednesday off from work.

    I will see just how good Gears 3 is for myself.

  16. ncaissie:

    Lmao I didn’t mean for gears 3. I haven’t played it or read the reviews so I wouldn’t know.

  17. CON:

    Gears was the first game I bought for xbox. It def set the standard for shooters. Just imagine if battlefield 3 had the level of violence gears has.

  18. Ivan_PSP:

    CON:
    You gotta be joking Gears of War has no standards whatsoever stop kidding yourself.

    FahKinSuPah:
    The game can be downloaded free to play on a hack aka flash disc drive Xbox 360.

    I doubt Gears of War 3 is the last series in the trilogy I bet they will be multiplaform prequel.

  19. Roca.:

    Battlefield is fine the way it is

  20. MAK:

    Best Buy had Gears of war 3 Tritton headsets. Now those are noice. haha. SONY should make some exclusive gaming headsets for their big games. The camo bluetooth is a start.

  21. Rimmer:

    I agree, Gears 3 may well be better than gears 2 but a lot has happened in the games market since the latter came out, and that is what gears 3 has to measure up against.

  22. CON:

    “Battlefield is fine the way it is”

    Destructible environments AND destructible enemies = whole lot of fun!

  23. FahKinSuPah:

    @Ivan

    Go fuck yourself to death.

    Gears 3 is going to be an epic game and worth paying for.

    No doubt your going to illegally download it and play it and I hope you get paid a visit by the cops.

  24. FahKinSuPah:

    @Everyone

    Just figured I would give you guys a heads up…

    Amazon is going to have a Gold Box deals day on video games on Tuesday.

  25. twilight:

    Gears Of War 3 comes out in less then 24 hours. I can’t wait. This game is going to be awesome!

  26. phranctoast:

    Yeah. They can leave the chainsaw out of the BF series thank you very much.

  27. phranctoast:

    Gears of war 3 charges $45 for weapons skins,

    http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=445288

  28. Roca.:

    “Destructible environments AND destructible enemies = whole lot of fun!”

    @CON
    that just sounds like Gears is the one that needs something from Battlefield ;)

    Battlefiend doesn’t need to be an over the top game like Gears

  29. CON:

    If there was a choice between Battlefield 3 with realistic lifelike violence or the just the way it is now which would you choose?

  30. phranctoast:

    @CON
    Chainsaw guns are not realistic. Realistically, they’re rather stupid.

  31. CON:

    @Phranc

    Battlefield doesn’t have chainsaw guns last time I checked. I’m simply talking about realistic violence. i.e. 50cal shots to the head tend to leave a mark.

  32. Roca.:

    Gears is an over the top game while Battlefield is a more realistic game.

  33. CON:

    Again……..my point wasn’t on the comparison between the 2 games. One is sci fi and the other is modern warfare, of course Battlefield is more realistic in terms of game type.

    My point was about realistic violence being implimented by Battlefield to make it an even better experience.

    You guys slow on the uptake today??? Maybe it’s just Monday blues…

  34. Roca.:

    ralistically if you get shot, you die..
    ralistically medics won’t be able to revive dead soldier
    ralistically you don’t have health regeneration

    that won’t be fun at all on BF3 ;)

  35. CON:

    Realistically you’d think someone would notice that they’d mispelled the word ‘ralistically’ 3 times in the same post.

    My point was about realistic violence Roca, clearly that’s hard for you to grasp lol I’ll put you down as a no then.

  36. phranctoast:

    So you want Soldier of Fortune 2 character damage models in Battlefield?

    Maybe.

    It doesn’t really need to be overly gory. That borders on juvenile IMO.

  37. CON:

    Yeah Soldier of Fortune 2 would be a pretty good example.

  38. phranctoast:

    Decapitation with large caliber rounds seems OK but I’d like them to keep out dismemberment from explosions. It’s just too much.

  39. lfcdan1:

    So whats the best deal people have seen for this then?
    I havent seen any ads in the papers for this so dont know where to get it from.
    Im talking instore deals btw.

  40. phranctoast:

    Can’t help. I only shop online for games.

  41. Roca.:

    LOL, Good catch CON

    just to let you know, I didn’t mispell it 3 times, I copy the pasted the first sentence 3 times and then I edited the last two :D

    Either way, Gears will be a much better game with destructible environments…much better than BF3 with blood and gore.

    @lfcdan1
    deals about what?

  42. CarlB:

    “It doesn’t really need to be overly gory. That borders on juvenile IMO… Decapitation with large caliber rounds seems OK but I’d like them to keep out dismemberment from explosions. It’s just too much.”

    Dismemberment from explosions is realistic (if done well), the juvenile part comes from players who find it humorous.

  43. lfcdan1:

    @Roca
    Just general price.
    I’m guessing morissons will do it for £35 like they do most new games but just wondering if anyones seen it cheaper or with free MS points or something.

  44. phranctoast:

    “the juvenile part comes from players who find it humorous.”

    Or just the reactions of people that find it necessary for some type of games. I’m thinking of Ninja Gaiden 2 vs NG2 Sigma where the gore was toned down on Sigma and Two player co op was added but the reactions of people that needed their gore were simply juvenile.

  45. CarlB:

    In those games it’s a different matter, but I think in a game that is supposed to simulate war somewhat realistically with it’s depictions, it’s justified.

  46. Ivan_PSP:

    FahKinSuPah:
    “No doubt your going to illegally download it and play it and I hope you get paid a visit by the cops.”

    I did that months ago like everyone else has. Cops here doubt it we got a lot of Dunkin Donuts around here in Brooklyn.

  47. phranctoast:

    Games are supposed to be fun. We don’t need to simulate the horrors of war in a video game.

  48. CarlB:

    Several survival horror games are more graphic than war games. If you can have the graphics in one why not the other? Next thing you know you’ll want all war genre games to be like 80′s GI Joe cartoons where no one dies and there is no blood.

    War games by their nature graphically represent war. If you can’t handle the sight of blood or dismemberment, or just don’t like it, then you should stick with other genres.

    War is ugly. Any movie, game, or book that glosses over that fact is doing an injustice.

  49. CarlB:

    “We don’t need to simulate the horrors of war in a video game.”

    I absolutely agree. We don’t. But they do, and people buy it. If you don’t like something, don’t get it and don’t play it.

    But if you are going to try to say that war games shouldn’t realistically portray war and all of it’s horrors in it’s graphics then I have to disagree with you.

    Better people see so it doesn’t seem like it would be too “fun”, as you put it, in real life. Better to portray war as realistically in appearance as one can than to make it something it is not. Better people find it to be visually repugnant than some candy coated piece of cartoon fiction.

  50. CarlB:

    “Decapitation with large caliber rounds seems OK but I’d like them to keep out dismemberment from explosions. It’s just too much.”

    So decapitation with large caliber rounds is OK… how do you feel about dismemberment with large caliber rounds?

  51. Roca.:

    “how do you feel about dismemberment with large caliber rounds?”

    that wouldn’t fun at all in a online game. in online games you get shot many times and you still survive and able to run for cover…that would happen in real life.

    CarlB you’re not an online gamer so you wouldn’t understand that games don’t need to turn into Kill Bill. Having blood and dismemberment won’t make the game any more realistic than what they are now because don’t actually die and you won’t fear any gun fire since you can just respawn in a matter of seconds.

  52. phranctoast:

    I’d pick half your posts apart and also post strawmen myself but I simply don’t care enough. You’re obviously either being deliberately obtuse to my point or you’re looking for an argument. I don’t care to explain nor argue.

  53. CarlB:

    I agree in your point about online games, roca, and I’ve played enough online to understand that. Kill Bill isn’t a war movie.

    Phranc, I know you would nitpick, but only because you do not understand where I am coming from. It must have been because you did not read or respond for understanding, but only for your own gratification.

    I’m not trying to argue, and I understand your point in that some gamers are juvenile in that they revel in gore unnecessarily. However, the same piece of media, whether it be film, books, or games, can be understood or interpreted on different levels by different people according to their own experience and perspective.

    I totally understand if you wish to shy away from this discussion because you cannot see beyond your own personal views.

  54. CarlB:

    “that wouldn’t fun at all in a online game. in online games you get shot many times and you still survive and able to run for cover…”

    You cut my sentence which mentioned decapitation being perceived by phranc as OK in games. I don’t think he was talking about online games either.

  55. phranctoast:

    You’re argument borders on whether or not theses games should exist at all. It’s not something I feel strongly about from a perspective worth debate. While theses games glorify war a certain level of dipiction is not necessary IMO. It also holds no gamplay value where something like destructable environments would. They’re not war simulators. Theyre games.

    Decapitation in a realistic war game is where I think they should draw the line. It’s a limitation I’d like to see stuck to.

    I’d also prefer GTA5 not to depict rape. I guess I’m old fashioned.

  56. CarlB:

    My discussion points are not focused on whether they should exist or not, as there is no stopping the momentum they already have or gamers insatiable appetite for violence depictions in general.

    Personally I think dismemberment is less severe than decapitation, but I guess I’m just crazy that way. If the line has already been maxed out, there’s no going back.

    I also think crying foul over rape or dismemberment when you are already murdering and decapitating people is pretty humorous. I guess I’m easily amused.

    This isn’t to say I particularly enjoy all depictions. Just as I may not enjoy a graphic depiction in a movie I can still understand why it is there. When it is for the sake of gravity or real effect then I can sometimes respect it as part of the experience.

    I’m not particularly motivated to play SAW the videogame because (aside from the fact it got low reviews) I know it will probably try to depict the same level of gratuitous violence as the movies do, and I really don’t get into that as some people do.

    As an aside, I’m not particularly motivated to play war games online mainly because of the juvenile behavior mentioned before. So even though I don’t like playing online in general because of how ugly people can be, I find the experience magnified in war games because of my personal experience with war and the losses I have witnessed.

    In general though, war game or not, I can appreciate the single player experience much more when the “game” is well crafted. I’m also prone to believe that videogames can be art, and perhaps “game” is a label that limits the potential of interactive entertainment and peoples beliefs in what it should or should not be.

    In other words, one doesn’t necessarily have to be only having their own personal idea of “fun” while experiencing the media, but can also be disturbed, engaged, sad, angry, happy, mad, ecstatic, excited, disgusted, etc. There are a range of emotions, and there is no real reason to limit an experience to just a few if one is an adult.

    While I was repulsed by depictions of dismemberment in Saving Private Ryan, I appreciated it’s gravity. Years later I could say the same when I saw it in real life, and years after that experience I can say the same after seeing it in Medal of Honor. At the same time I know some will see it only as “cool”, while others will think it is only juvenile gratuitous violence and think it should be eliminated altogether while keeping certain aspects of war which they personally approve of.

    When you witness an evil in a video game, it could truly be depicted as evil. You may not like that depiction, but you can recognize it and measure it up appropriately.

    I’m not saying all games should be like this, but certainly some could, and they could further interactive entertainment as an art form.

  57. phranctoast:

    “Personally I think dismemberment is less severe than decapitation, but I guess I’m just crazy that way. If the line has already been maxed out, there’s no going back. ”

    I may be desensitized to it since it’s been in games for far too long now. Dismemberment could be construed as memory intensive for online games and could be the reason it’s left out. I threw that in there as a maximum I would tolerate in my war games, and I’m sure other types of games can be called into the conversation to prove my opinion as being ridiculous, and that’s fine.

    If overly gory war games came out I feel it would be more for sensationalism and to cater to the juvenile bloodlust craving of younger gamers, and not for artful reason where Saving Private Ryan depicts.

    I also don’t want to see US/Any soldiers in pieces in a Video game. Especially not to cater to some fuckwit that thinks “that’s cool”.

  58. CarlB:

    I agree that the juvenile usually rules when it comes to videogames, and sales of them. What I can already see in videogames that has happened many times in film is the separate interpretations. I would rather see a depiction exist in a piece when placed for meaning than to see it not exist.

    The lower consumer stratum of idiocy will be there regardless, while several military veterans and mature adults can recognize the depiction for something more, something that while it may not always be pretty, better portrays some unfortunate realities of war.

  59. phranctoast:

    If done tasteful with more of a concentration on realism than in your face gore we may see it at some point. I’m my experience, unfortunately the latter is more prominent.

    It’s also tricky with the subject matter. Where a developer may feel comfortable with WW2, sometimes the depiction of our soldiers in such a way hits too close to home now.

  60. CarlB:

    People are split, and I can understand why. Personally I played through MoH recently and though I can see what the big deal was about just because you could play as AQ, I don’t agree with it being banned on bases. Not including AQ would be denying their existence, which is simply denying reality. If anything, the ban was more of a political/book burning type of censorship move than a measure for morality.

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