Review: Gears of War 3 – will the series end with a bang or a whimper?

October 23, 2011

Review: Gears of War 3 – will the series end with a bang or a whimper? The Gears of War franchise has reached the end of its trilogy with the release of the third game. As Cliff Bleszinski claimed previously and a question that is probably on every Gear-head’s mind – is Gears of War 3 truly the best of the series?

Story

The story starts off nearly two years after the events of Gears of War 2, as the remaining survivors have moved to the island of Vectes to start all over again. The Locusts are embroiled in a civil war against the Lambent and has their hands full without worrying about the survivors.

The surviving humans experience a brief period of peace until the Lambents start emerging to attack the population. Chairman Prescott revealed that the government will not help the COG, abandoning all of the survivors.

This causes the group to splinter with everyone heading towards different directions to survive. The Delta squad ends up on the CNV Sovereign, a carrier where Marcus Fenix meets Prescott. Marcus is shown a data disc that reveals that his father, Adam Fenix is still alive and working on something radical that may tip the balance in the war against the Locust and Lambent.

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This is pretty much where the story really starts to pick up as Marcus and the Delta squad must set off to locate and rescue Adam. The story is definitely structured a bit better than the previous titles, but still maintains that corny feel seen throughout the series. As in the previous titles, Marcus and the Delta squad must save the day and make a last stand against the Locust.

While Gears 3 delivers the same type of over-the-top story and cheesy dialog, the developers have managed to inject some emotion into the game. Players will find moments where the game manages to tug at your heartstrings, especially around Dom near the middle of story.

It appears that some effort was put in to make the main characters three dimensional by adding quirks to each character, whether dealing with Dom’s depression or Cole’s mid-life crisis. Marcus remains relatively flat as he mostly scowls and grunts throughout the game. At times these attempts at adding depth to the characters may seem a bit forced in the context of the story.

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Gameplay

The gameplay mechanics in Gears of War 3 is where the game really shines. Epic Games revealed that the studio tirelessly refined the gameplay mechanics by subtly tweaking things here and there. While the gameplay mechanics appear largely unchanged, the feel of the controls are definitely finely tuned. While annoyances such as unintentional wall hugging while performing a roadie run still occur, it seems to happen less often than the previous title.

The structure of the game is also largely untouched as enemies will shuffle into an area and you spend a good amount of time ducking behind a wall knocking the baddies off one-by-one. New comers to the series may find that this gets old fast but to fans of the series this game level design has a certain sense of satisfaction as you try to determine the best pattern at picking off the hordes of enemies on screen or  attempt to count the number of active reloads you can achieve during the skirmish.

The addition of new weapons such as the Digger will help change up gameplay as it hurls grenades underground for a wide area kill. In the vein of games like Call of Duty or Uncharted, the developers have definitely upped the amount of epic moments happening in the game. A lot of this is also achieved with some on-rail sections in the air or underwater. 

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Visuals

The visuals in Gears of War 3 looks similar to Gears 2 but the studio has definitely improved on subtle aspects of the graphics such as particle effects. This can be clearly noticed near one section of the game where Marcus and the others are surrounded by the Lambent and there is smoke and fire all over the area adding to the sense of chaos.

The one complaint about the visuals is the transition from in-game to the CGI rendered cutscenes, which seem to be lower in quality. This decision was probably made in order to capture some of that epic “oh crap” moments that would have been difficult to do in-engine. The videos were probably scaled down to maintain space constraints on the DVD9 disc as well.

Multiplayer

There was a bit of controversy with the multiplayer in Gears of War 2 due to the many issues it had. Cliff Bleszinski even acknowledged this issue by posting a picture sent in by a fan of a Gears of War 2 disc cracked in half with the message “lag sucks!”

It appears that Epic Games have addressed many of the concerns around the multiplayer component this time around. In addition to improving the net code, the studio has added a new Beast Mode, which is pretty much a reverse Horde Mode.

The multiplayer mode still has versus where players can do the various competitive modes such as team deathmatch and also capture the leader. The competitive modes are good, but Horde Mode 2.0 and Beast Mode really steal the show here.

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As mentioned above, Beast Mode is like a reverse of Horde Mode, where players can control the different types of locust during the match ranging from the ticker to the berserker. I found this mode to be almost like a puzzle and required some trial and error before finding the best method to taking down the survivors. This mode also boasts an in-game economy which allows players to spawn different types of locust. The only downside is that this new mode only supports up to 13 waves, leaving for a rather short experience.

The improvements in Horde Mode 2.0 is actually quite substantial as the economy in this mode allows players to gain currency to buy fortification items such as spikes, turrets and decoys. The addition of tower defense elements in multiplayer shooters is a popular trend these days as seen with Trench, and the upcoming StarHawk.

This mode definitely captures what made the Zombie mode in Call of Duty so popular as players will have to communicate to each other to build fortification to keep the enemy at bay.

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Wrap-up

Overall, Gears of War 3 is definitely the best of the trilogy with its super refined gameplay mechanics, and a strong multiplayer component. While the story can be lackluster, its probably the strongest offering in the series. The final boss fight is predictable and can be viewed as anticlimactic, but I think this is probably the best way to end a trilogy.

For those expecting a radical departure from the previous titles in the series, you will be disappointed as the general formula is kept and doesn’t deviate much. This is probably done to assure continuity with the previous two games in the series. The game also does a great job of wrapping everything up nicely and sadly pretty much leaves very little room for another game.

I would highly recommend fans of the series to definitely pickup Gears of War 3 as its a must play title that bring closure to an epic saga.

Score

4.5/5

248 Responses to “Review: Gears of War 3 – will the series end with a bang or a whimper?”

  1. MAK:

    In short- It didnt live up to its hype.
    I wonder how my xbot friend felt about the game. I guarantee he got it day 1 and all-nighter-ed it. I guarantee he will brag about it if i stopped by, even though he knows the game wasnt what he expected it to be. But thatd be dumb to do, because…..

    I have Uncharted 3.
    And whoever wrote that article “5 reasons to buy Gears 3 over Uncharted 3″ is a real dumbass. Really.

  2. The Future of Sega:

    Tah, I gave up on Gears on the first game. Haven’t played the series since..

    This game is mainstream garbage.

  3. The Future of Sega:

    Gears of Waaar…it’s uuuh….it’s real faggy.

  4. FahKinSuPah:

    Oh look a 360 positive article and the retards come out from the woodwork.

    Big surprise there.

  5. Rimmer:

    i’m about 2/3rds of the way through and this is my impression:
    - Visuals are incredible. One of the best looking games I have ever seen. Half the time I find myself wandering around the level inbetween combat just checking out the scenery, admiring the vistas and fantastic attention to detail. This feels like a real step up from Gears 2. A little disappointing is the modelling of burnt out cars and a few other set pieces, but walking though the city destroyed by the Hammer of Dawn inbetween the ashen figures of people burnt alive is one of the most impressive sets I have ever seen.
    - The story is a vast improvement over Gears 2 and a lot longer than I thought it would be. Missions are as varied as you can get I guess when the main mechanisim is duck, fire guns, reload and run until all baddies are dead. Rinse and repeat. Fun, but I would have liked more variety such as climbing & jumping and puzzle solving. Uncharted does that better. Hell, they could at least have allowed the characters to fall to their doom if they step off a ledge instead of introducing invisible barriers. The soundtrack is great and introducing the Mad World melody from the original TV trailer in the midst of a particular fire fight & cut scene was incredible and touching.
    Look forward to trying out the multiplayer element next.

  6. ncaissie:

    Thanks for review Mike. Now maybe those fucking cry baby xbitches can shut the fuck up for a while.

  7. Roca.:

    ^ LOL

  8. Roca.:

    Horde mode 2.0 sounds cool

  9. phranctoast:

    I hate when great games have mediocre bosses/end bosses.

    Dead Space 2 comes to mind.

  10. twilight:

    Lol @ Ncaissie.
    Anyways, there is not too much longer until the true gaming masterpiece Uncharted 3 arrives.

  11. oldschool1987:

    Uncharted 3 reviews released tomorrow.

    Agreed with Phranc, the end boss on DS2 was weak, shooting markers in your head was gay lol

  12. Roca.:

    @oldschool
    how you know?

    have you try the U3 MP mode uet?

  13. oldschool1987:

    Well IGNs review is Tuesday at 3am London time so it will be about 10pm Monday east America. IGN has a countdown anyway.

    Loved the multiplayer, on level 11 atm. I didn’t like the idea of Multiplayer in a Uncharted game because some reviewers won’t realise that the MP is just a bonus to the SP game, like MGS4 Online is. They’ll probably knock off a few points because they’ll compare it to CoD. Anyway from what I’ve played it’s surprisingly deep with so much stuff to unlock and the graphics for the online matches rival most multiplatform single player games. I love the start of some matches where you’re on a two trains firing into each other or those jeeps

  14. oldschool1987:

    Well IGNs review is Tuesday at 3am London time so it will be about 10pm Monday east America. IGN has a countdown anyway.

    Loved the multiplayer, on level 11 atm. I didn’t like the idea of Multiplayer in a Uncharted game because some reviewers won’t realise that the MP is just a bonus to the SP game, like MGS4 Online is. They’ll probably knock off a few points because they’ll compare it to CoD. Anyway from what I’ve played it’s surprisingly deep with so much stuff to unlock and the graphics for the online matches rival most multiplatform single player games. I love the start of some matches where you’re on a two trains firing into each other or those jeeps chasing down the enemy team on the plane. Very cool stuff. It’s a shame no one will playthe online and stick to CoD just because everyone else will.

  15. oldschool1987:

    Accidentally posted before I was finished lol.

  16. phranctoast:

    IGN rated it a 10
    Masterful

  17. phranctoast:

    http://ps3.ign.com/articles/121/1210241p1.html

  18. Roca.:

    IGN rated it a 10
    Masterful

    http://ps3.ign.com/articles/121/1210241p1.html

    damn it’s 10PM EST already and I’m still at work :|

    what was the score for Gears 3?

  19. oldschool1987:

    Wow I’m surprised at the 10! Looks like it is GOTY then. Batman, Gears, Forza and LBP2 didn’t get rated that high. Now I’m excited.

    It looks like its a bad time to be a 360 only owner.

  20. oldschool1987:

    “what was the score for Gears 3?”

    It wasn’t 10 lol

  21. phranctoast:

    IGN scored Gears 3 a 9/10. Joystiq scored Gears 3 a 10/10 and Uncharted 3 a 9/10, but they hardly count anyway.

  22. Roca.:

    More Uncharted 3: Drake’s Deception review scores:

    100 IGN
    100 PLAYFRONT
    100 Gamepro
    100 GamersNET
    100 NGB
    100 IncGamers
    100 Gamersnet.
    100 TheSixthAxis
    100 PSNation.org
    100 PlayStation LifeStyle
    100 BeingNerdy
    97 Nowgamer
    95 1UP
    95 GameTrailers
    95 Everyeye.it
    94 XGN
    94 GamePro.de
    91 Paste Magazine
    90 EDGE
    90 Gadget Review
    90 Videogamer
    90 Eurogamer Portugal
    80 Eurogamer

    average = 96

  23. Roca.:

    “Uncharted 3 – The new stardard for actiong gaming” – ArsTechnica

  24. CON:

    How did eurogamer score uncharted?

  25. Roca.:

    @CON
    “How did eurogamer score uncharted?”

    -100 Eurogamer.Italy
    -90 Eurogamer.France
    -90 Eurogamer Portugal
    -80 Eurogamer

    Average = 90

  26. twilight:

    Oh, hell yeah. Go Uncharted go!!!! I can’t wait for this game.

  27. CaptBirdman:

    Eurogamer, bloody ponces, like always.

    U3 2011 GoTY, locked.

    Mass Effect 3 2012 GoTY, locked.

  28. CAD:

    So did you hear that the PS3 has been hacked again. Poor PS3!

  29. navysteve:

    That’s a massive call it will be up there but I think batman will take it

  30. oldschool1987:

    @ CAD:

    Link please, fanslug.

  31. oldschool1987:

    Agree with Bird.

  32. Kushy:

    “So did you hear that the PS3 has been hacked again. Poor PS3!”

    @CAD

    So did you hear the Xbox 360 was hacked like 5 years ago? Now fuck off you lame ass troll! Poor CAD, grasping at straws! His poor little head exploded at the Uncharted 3 scores! lol

  33. Barnabe Jones:

    Kinect Sports 2 GOTY!

  34. The Future of Sega:

    ^^^ LOL. Cads right. The proof is in the pudding.

    *Hackers return for more “Sownage” :-D*
    http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1101456/ps3_hack_jailbreak_2_available_online_report.html
    http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2011/10/24/new-jb2-ps3-mod-chip-surfaces/

  35. The Future of Sega:

    Prepare for more psn updates everyone…this is going to be a looooong battle between Sony and hackers. -_-

  36. ncaissie:

    “80 Eurogamer”
    LOL exactly why reviews mean nothing. Some idiot xbitch has to be a dick.

  37. CaptBirdman:

    To be fair NC, Eurogamer is notorious for their low scores for great games, be it on Wii, DS, PS3, or 360.

    They relish being arseholes.

  38. CarlB:

    All of a sudden IGN review scores count again.
    lol.

  39. oldschool1987:

    Was waiting for Carl to cry about that lol. I’ve always posted IGN scores first but they definitely used to be very biased it’s only these last few years their attitude has changed.

    And when was the Ps3 hacked again CAD??? Show me a link or something because I had a look around and nothing. You just sound like a jealous and bitter fanslug because that’s 2 Ps3 exclusives rated higher than all 360 exclusives this year: LBP2 and UC3.

  40. The Future of Sega:

    Hahaha @ deleted comment

    Wow Mike did those two articles of PS3 being hacked again make you so mad that you had to delete my post? Can’t stand anti-Ps3ism can ya? ;-)

    Deny it all you want but the truth shall set you free. :-D Let’s face it whoever it is in Indonesia has a serious grudge against Sony. And they’re not willing to stop until Sony bends to their will.

    To be honest, it’s sad and lame that someone would go through such efforts to play pirated PS3 games…but when individuals have a grudge against something they’re willing to go to any length to get even…or more. :-D

    Feel free to delete this comment as well to protect all criticism against the mighty PS3. :-D

  41. The Future of Sega:

    My apologies for that assumption…the comment is awaiting “moderation”…

  42. oldschool1987:

    Sega every single time you come back here you’re a fan of another system. Try being consistent.

  43. me_:

    Or you could just praise one system or another no matter what happens.

    consistency = fanboy

  44. me_:

    “To be fair NC, Eurogamer is notorious for their low scores for great games, be it on Wii, DS, PS3, or 360.”

    You’re wrong Birdman. It’s the xbitches…… they’re everywhere.

  45. oldschool1987:

    Oh look it’s Godless’ little stalker.

    “Or you could just praise one system or another no matter what happens.”

    Certainly not describing yourself there are you fanslug?

    Tell me, because I forget, what consoles do you have again Godless’ lover? I have a Wii, Ps3 and 360 …you?

  46. me_:

    Keep up the fight oldschool. You don’t know when those xbitches are going to diss the PS3 next.

  47. phranctoast:

    IGN beats the hell out of Eurogamer and destructoid.

  48. phranctoast:

    I also have never had a problem with IGN scores being too high. It’s usually the opposite, which we can also see they’re traditionally 5 points lower on average than the rest of the industry. This is also my problem with Eurogamer and Destructoid. Destructiod being the worse out of the bunch. They shouldn’t even attach numbers to their reviews.

  49. oldschool1987:

    Keep up brown nosing Godless, fanslug! You never know he might one day return the feelings.

  50. oldschool1987:

    Still avoided what consoles you own.

  51. me_:

    Why would I avoid that?

    You just obviously have too much time on your hands if you can actually play 3 consoles along with constantly patrolling blorge for anti PS3 sentiment.

  52. oldschool1987:

    Yes that makes sense, I play all 3 consoles all the time. Wow you’re so clever! I obviously only play the good games that get released you retard. 2 consoles are put away whilst I play the one with he newest game. Not the sharpest knife in the draw are you?

    Still avoided the question.

  53. me_:

    Wow, I just got called stupid by an army grunt.

  54. oldschool1987:

    Let me simplify it for you because you’re obviously a special case. Have my Ps3 out for Uncharted and Skyrim and after I’ve finished with them I’ll have out my Wii for Zelda then I’ll be playing Halo CE on he 360. I won’t be sitting there I front of 3 TV screens with 3 joypads playing 3 systems.

    So, erm, what consoles do you own? Because you seem to be able to offer up opinions on all 3 consoles but I think you don’t own them all. So when you slate any console you don’t own that makes you a fanboy and of you praise a console that you don’t own but your bf does then that makes you pathetic.

  55. me_:

    Looks like you’ve got a great line up of games ahead of you.

    Who knows, the way the UK keeps slashing its defence spending you may have more time than you think to enjoy them.

  56. oldschool1987:

    “Wow, I just got called stupid by an army grunt.”

    Still avoided the question.

    Now you’ve resorted to insulting the armed forces pmsl can you get any lower? Next you’ll pull a CON and say we deserve to die for what we do.

    Don’t be jealous because you’re too fat and scared to do what we do. And what’s with the stereotyping that all army people have low IQs? Bit retarded if you ask me. I suppose you also think all French people love cheese, all gingers are angry, all Brits drink tea. Keep proving how stupid you are, it makes me :)

  57. oldschool1987:

    “Who knows, the way the UK keeps slashing its defence spending you may have more time than you think to enjoy them.”

    Even though I know you put this to avoid my question I know this is true. Fucking government is fucking up. We have the best military in the world, no other countries training comes close and they’re butchering us for a few extra cash for the MPs lol.

    Still avoided the question.

  58. me_:

    Calm down. I have a lot of respect for the armed forces.

    Just being called stupid by a 20 something year old grunt in the army shocked me a little.

  59. me_:

    To be fair I’ve only worked with 2 ex-army people. One was smart the other not. Both had masters degrees though and I got the impression that these guys were a cut above (in intelligence) the average solider.

    Horses for courses. It’s not like being able to solve differential equations is going to help you in Afghanistan.

  60. oldschool1987:

    “Just being called stupid by a 20 something year old grunt in the army shocked me a little.”

    24. If it makes you feel any better I’m. It just a grunt, also a fully trained paramedic and have been accepted into the police where I’ve been told I’ll be in the armed response within 6 months. Was actually meant to go into this a while ago but like you said, a lot of cut backs put things on hold.

    Don’t kid yourself me, I’m probably a lot smarted and wiser than you. How old are you?

    You ver going to answer my question?

  61. oldschool1987:

    “Horses for courses. It’s not like being able to solve differential equations is going to help you in Afghanistan.”

    No it won’t and nor will being as stupid as people make soldiers out to be. You have to have a knack for tactical thinking, problem solving and common sense. The British Army don’t hire stupid people …unless you’re joining the REME or Signals lol. Idol fuckers they are.

  62. oldschool1987:

    ” I’m. It just a grunt”

    I’m not just a grunt.

    What is it with the iPhone thinking I’m pressing the space bar twice??

  63. CON:

    OLD aka Liam McNulty BNP holocaust denier

    Fuck off you dumb bullshitting grunt

  64. oldschool1987:

    I see CONs talking politics again.

  65. oldschool1987:

    Bullshitting? So you’ve never said soldiers deserve to die? Or was that the truth???

  66. oldschool1987:

    You know what CON I can’t actually be arsed with you if I’m honest. You can carry on talking politics if you want, have a little cry about the BNP and whatnot. I’ll leave you too it. I’ve tried asking on the other thread why you feel my life is important to you, how whatever politics I have are relevant to this website and every time you dodge the question, instead you just throw more politics at me and waffle on like a fanatic. Politics has no place on this website and why you find me important enough to get involved in my personal life is beyond me.

    Buy bye troll.

  67. me_:

    I never called you, or the army in general, stupid oldschool. Not in this thread anyway :P

    “Don’t kid yourself me, I’m probably a lot smarted and wiser than you. How old are you?”

    I’m 34. I also build financial models for the mining industry as a day job. I’m sure you would kill me in a 100m dash though :D

  68. oldschool1987:

    My bad, “me”. I honestly thought you were still in school.

    Sounds like a decent living, fair play to ya.

  69. me_:

    Swings and roundabouts. When China goes belly up and doesn’t need our iron ore any more I’ll be looking to go back to defence.

  70. Godless:

    @ Oldschool
    “Was waiting for Carl to cry about that lol. I’ve always posted IGN scores first but they definitely used to be very biased it’s only these last few years their attitude has changed.”

    I think you’ll find that the low scores were because the games just weren’t that good.

    Old school

    Just reading through this thread and see you’re at it again.

    Is it the Army that teaches you to have such a high opinion of yourself, or is it a defensive thing because you’re really not that smart.

    you’ve told us all on many occasions how you’ve done more in your short life than we have or ever will do, and that your smarter than us, despite most of us having a degrees of some kind, and despite the fact you have no idea what any of us have done in our lives.

    You do know the army is not renowned for the intelligence of its front line soldiers?

    It would be interesting to find out just how smart you (and Roca)really are when you’re detached from Google.

    Arrogance is so unpleasant don’t you think?

  71. gunstar:

    Uncharted 3 is the better game thats a factinion.

  72. oldschool1987:

    “You do know the army is not renowned for the intelligence of its front line soldiers?”

    And do you know that all English people drink tea, gingers are angry, Jews are money grabbers and all truck drivers kill prostitutes. Keep living the stereotype Godless. One of the reasons I’m smarter than you, I don’t buy into it. For one, I’m English and I can’t stand tea.

    I still see your at it again on another thread, putting your 2 pence in when it comes to graphics but being proven wrong by others. What game looks better Godless, ODST or K2? Didn’t you say ODST? In fact Vanquish or K2? You said Vanquish, which game won the awards for graphical achievements? Erm how about Kameo or Ratchet and Clank? That one was the stupidest one, we provided a list of awards that proved you wrong.

    You’re such a fanboy than even Fahk who favors the 360 called you a fanboy lmao! That’s how bad you are and what’s funny about it is you don’t even realise it, instead you go around calling pots, black.

    This new one for you is hilarious, now you say when you play Killzone 3 you don’t play the game, instead you walk up to a wall and back away slowly looking for faults lmfao! That’s almost as bad as leaving uncharted running for half an hour just to see how long until it loops.

    You know what, you’re probably right about the graphics for Killzone 3 but i dot play games looking for glitches so I wouldn’t notice that. I play games to enjoy them, not looking for ammo in your imaginary console war.

  73. CarlB:

    “I can’t stand tea.”

    Not even a Long Island Iced Tea OS?

  74. oldschool1987:

    Lol I’ve never had the pleasure Carl, tbh I’ve never tried iced tea in general. I take it you’re a fan? I’ll tell you what Carl, I gotta go tesco later for some shopping and I’ll actually look out for iced tea. I doubt there will be long island iced tea but I’ll treat myself lol.

  75. Godless:

    Oldschool

    You’re pathetic, keep on twisting things.

  76. oldschool1987:

    That’s your response, Godless?

    Enough said then.

  77. phranctoast:

    Wouldn’t think anyone outside of Long Island has heard of LI iced tea. Weird.

    Here’s a trivia question:
    Where did it originate?

  78. me_:

    I’ve heard of it and I’m on the other side of the earth.

    Got to give it to the US for exporting their culture.

  79. jojo29:

    I wanna read Godless’ findings on Gears 3′s graphical glitches….ive already noticed some, but unlike him I dont give a shit, the game is tight, well from what my bro has let me play…

  80. Roca.:

    “You’re such a fanboy than even Fahk who favors the 360 called you a fanboy lmao!”

    LMAO that was hilarious!!

  81. jojo29:

    Hmmm we are talking about the alcoholic Long Island Iced Tea right?? If so, they are good opener drinks and very, very dangerous….closing drinks….they fuk me up when I start drinking them after ive had a good 2-3 hours into a bar hopping night…they just bitch slap you…if I drink them early on, im good though…ahhh.luvin the single life atm :)

  82. Roca.:

    @Phranc
    “Where did it originate?”

    Long Island (duh!)..if not, then the name is stupid ;)

    btw, Infamous 2: Blood Fest is out today…anyone else is getting it?

  83. Roca.:

    “they fuk me up when I start drinking them after ive had a good 2-3 hours into a bar hopping night”

    @Jojo
    don’t kid yourself, you know you get drunk after a couple of glasses of water.

    I didn’t see you playing BF3 last night!! I went to the midnight launch at Best Buy – the game is freaking awesome.

  84. CON:

    Just for the attention of those not in the know….BNP members are not allowed in the police force in the uk because it is deemed as racist… the job that dumb ass is claiming to be joining. Lol in fact I’m pretty sure they aren’t even allowed to even VOTE for the BNP. Look it up.

    Keep bullshitting you grunt, nobody believes you. I have no doubt you have a paramedic friend though. Lol

  85. phranctoast:

    “Long Island (duh!)..if not, then the name is stupid”

    At a bar called Oak Beach Inn in Captree Long Island. It’s close to Robert Moses Park. The Bar no longer exists.

    http://maps.google.com/?ll=40.628546,-73.339491&spn=0.05993,0.104628&hnear=JAMAICA,+New+York+11423&t=h&z=14&vpsrc=6

    around here. Near Cedar Beach Park.

  86. oldschool1987:

    Lmfao @ CON!!! Oh my god you do not give up!! I swear all you talk about is politics! THIS IS A GAMING SITE YOU RETARD!!! I bet you’re a very lonely person.

    And just for the record, I’m not a member of the BNP. Find me a quote where I said I have signed up to the BNP. I went to vote for them due to their tough policies on immigration but luckily enough I couldn’t vote because I didn’t realise you had to register to votw(which is retarded). I’ll be honest CON, it was because of you I found out more about them, so I wouldn’t make the mistake of trying to vote them again.

    Now can you stop talking politics. Seriously, answer me this: How is my personal life so important to you? You’re totally obsessed with me, it’s a bit freaky lol.

    Now stop talking to me, we have nothing to say to each other. Unless you want to talk more politics? But I have a life so I would rather not talk about something so mundane.

  87. oldschool1987:

    One more thing: You called Ivan a spick. That’s racist.

  88. oldschool1987:

    http://uk.games.ign.com/articles/121/1210615p1.html

    Time to get excited people.

  89. Roca.:

    @oldschool
    just ignore him – he’s trying to get some attention after both Forza 4 and Gears 3 failed to match LBP2′s review score and now Uncharted 3 ruined his Gears 3 review from Mike (which he’s been whining about it for weeks). And he’s just sad that Bin Ladden and Gaddafi are both dead thanks to US spread democracy.

    oldschool, did you get BF3 yet, or Demon’s Souls (EU)?

  90. CarlB:

    L.I.T. lol… I had no idea there were so many variants until I wiki’d it.

  91. oldschool1987:

    “oldschool, did you get BF3 yet, or Demon’s Souls (EU)?”

    Nah I think I’ll wait in BF3, I’m more of a single player gamer and I heard the campaign was pretty weak, maybe one day. I think I’ll get CoD 1st lol. Ain’t had time to get DS yet, too many good games released, Rage is cool and now Arkham. Then there’s Uncharted, Skyrim, CoD and Zelda. I think it will be a while now lol.

  92. CAD:

    Carl B

    LOL Yeah tell me about it. They wrote off IGN so many time and now look at them embracing a IGN Score. That’s why I don’t care to much about scores. I do count on them a bit but I never make a review my absolute measuring stick. I look at both User reviews and media reviews. Uncharted will be a good game no doubt so I don’t know why they need a score to back that up. It’s not like I even looked at the Gears Score to back up my purchase of the game. I know Gears and I love Gears and no review good or bad was going to deter me from buying the game. But you know some people need review scores to make themselves feel good about their system. To some of these guys it’s a dick measuring contest.

  93. oldschool1987:

    “To some of these guys it’s a dick measuring contest.”

    Same can be said of you about sales.

  94. Roca.:

    I listed all the reviews available at the time…so idk what you’re talking about CAD.

    btw – Grand Theft Auto V has officially been announced.

  95. oldschool1987:

    “btw – Grand Theft Auto V has officially been announced”

    Hence my link above lol.

  96. Roca.:

    Can Grand Theft Auto bring something new to the genre? Seems like the series reached its maximun potential as GTA4 was not as good as the previous two GTA games – seems like Saints Row 3 is the game to beat now and they are going all out.

  97. Roca.:

    We keep hearing that the PS4 and X720 are coming out next year (or maybe in 2013) but there are so many high profile games coming out in 2012 and beyond:

    -Bioshock Inifinite
    -Final Fantasy 14
    -Final Fantasy Versus 13
    -Metal Gear Solid: Rising
    -Grand Theft Auto 5
    -Twisted Metal
    -Last Guardian
    -Max Payne
    -Halo 4
    -Tekken vs Street Fighter (not SFvTK)
    -Soul Calibur 4
    -Tekken Tag 2
    -Fable 4
    -Agent

  98. twilight:

    “there are so many high profile titles coming out in 2012 and beyond” …on Ps3 that is.

  99. dans303:

    Long Island Iced Tea is in pretty much all good bars in Edinburgh – very, very popular too. I haven’t tried it though. What does it even taste like?

  100. Roca.:

    Destructoid gave Uncharted 3 a 10/10 – WOW

    Batman: Arkham City has sold 4.6 million copies in less than a week – that’s insane.

  101. Roca.:

    Correction*
    Batman: AC shipped 4.6M, but only sold 2M.

  102. phranctoast:

    “Destructoid gave Uncharted 3 a 10/10 – WOW”

    I don’t care. They still suck. :)

  103. phranctoast:

    “Long Island Iced Tea is in pretty much all good bars in Edinburgh – very, very popular too. I haven’t tried it though. What does it even taste like?”

    Wow. Surprised it crossed the ocean…..
    It taste like Iced Tea. Seriously strange that something with so much alcohol can taste like it has no alcohol if it’s made correctly.

  104. phranctoast:

    I’m starting the think Agent is vaporware.

  105. dans303:

    @phranc

    What does Iced Tea taste like though? lol I try to steer clear of caffiene-related stuff. Does it taste like cold tea, perchance?

  106. phranctoast:

    Yes. It tastes like Tea, only cold…with ice ;)

  107. twilight:

    Well, Roca Batman Arkham City is just an awesome game.

  108. Roca.:

    “I’m starting the think Agent is vaporware”

    I was thinking the same.

  109. dans303:

    @phranc

    I get cheap drinks at a ‘Cocktail Bar’ on Thursday nights so I’ll report back then. If I buy it. ;)

  110. Godless:

    Dans

    If you order LI iced tea in at the bar in dingwall. are you not very likely to get the shit kicked out of you. . .probably by the bar man..

    and then by the locals :D

  111. phranctoast:

    @Dans
    see if they’ll make you a power punch while you’re at it. This place I go to has it in mini pitchers (23oz).

    It’s dark and light rum, gin, amaretto, and a splash or fruit punch.

    1 sets you back. 2 puts you on the floor.

  112. jojo29:

    Roca
    My friend vanessa has my ps3, I get it back Friday
    Ive been on fhe pc version
    If you see me log on before friday, its my friends ps3 logging into my account…hedidnt believe me.you could log onto different users so I showed him how…should show him how to switch users lol

    Lol at the glass if water joke, liquor I can handle, beers… They get me,.but been jntroduced to some dark beers as of late….rasputin being my current fave at 10%

  113. dans303:

    @godless

    Just as well I don’t live in Dingwall then. I’ve only been for a night out there once – and even then I was with a big tough guy so I was pretty ok. ;) I have heard it’s pretty hostile though lol.

    @phranc

    Gin! *vomit* I hate the stuff! So I won’t be trying that one haha.

    There is a similar one here though, it’s called a ‘jetpack’: 2xVodka, Champagne, Malibu and Red Bull. Like your one, it will wreck you if you have two. I’ve seen many a good drinker fall to it lol.

  114. dans303:

    “and even then I was with a big tough guy so I was pretty ok.”

    *cough* I mean I AM a big tough guy *cough cough*

  115. phranctoast:

    Yeah. Gin makes me belligerent.

  116. dans303:

    Not gonna lie, I had to look up ‘belligerent’. Y u use big words? ;)

    I’m the opposite in general (though I haven’t had enough Gin to make me that way). I’m the happiest drunk you’ll ever see – and then I pass out.

  117. phranctoast:

    I usually am too. Gin is different. That and Tequila.

  118. jojo29:

    Dans
    Same way here, im a “merry” drunk, love talking as is, even moreso as the drinks get me…then I like to find a corner and pass out…move me though and im cranky…usually because im trying to keep from getting too dizzy so when I get moved it makes me dizzier lol

  119. dans303:

    I’m indifferent about tequila. I don’t drink it unless it’s a slammer! Salt, shot, lemon. Lovely.

  120. oldschool1987:

    I only drink beer and I’m pissed off one pint. Such a lightweight lol.

  121. Roca.:

    I don’t always drink beer, but when I do I prefer Dos Equis…

  122. jojo29:

    Tequilla….yuuukk..only if its the only.thing to drink..makes me.too brave…i.e, sure ill take another!

    XX ftw!! Xx Amber too!!

  123. jojo29:

    Ive noticed a trend

    roca, myself, dans, oldschool seem tobe able to chit chat not only about games, but other topics as wee, along with birdy, twilight, sw….on this list most of us are labeled sony fanboys

    Yet, con, cad and the other “xbitches” all seem to care about are sales, politics, never once chitchatting about games or other topics that dont bash the ps3…

    So who are the real fanboys here….just saying i noticed a trend

  124. FahKinSuPah:

    “It taste like Iced Tea. Seriously strange that something with so much alcohol can taste like it has no alcohol if it’s made correctly.”

    2 Sets of 2 words each

    Sweedish Fish

    Jolly Rancher

    The sweedish fish tastes just like those sweedish fish candies and you barely even notice the alochol. its fucking crazy.

    @Roca

    “I don’t always drink beer, but when I do I prefer Dos Equis…”

    Those Dos Equis commercials crack me the fuck up.

    Cougers are strictly catch and release. lol

    Stay thirsty my friend

    I can’t stand the taste of most beer. Bud, coors… that shit is nasty. I appearently I prefer lager like Yueng Ling. Guiness is also a fav of mine.

  125. CON:

    OLD AKA LIAM MCNULTY BNP HOLOCAUST DENIER

    Never said you were a member you dumb grunt. Merely pointing out how the Police in the UK view your beloved far right party. Good luck with your ‘job interview’ lol

  126. oldschool1987:

    Keep talking politics CON.

  127. ncaissie:

    I missed alot today :(

    “All of a sudden IGN review scores count again.
    lol.”
    @carl no but they get props for being honest this time.
    I dont think they are all xbitches.

    Btw I paid my LE in full on Sunday. As well as my kids ps tv for x-mas. Got them disney something today also for x-mas.
    I can’t fucking wait. I had rented batman a c for a week but I think I’ll start playing uncharted 1. I haven’t Finnished it yet. I’ll but two in again and see why I didn’t get the trophy for finnishing it.

  128. ncaissie:

    “Can Grand Theft Auto bring something new to the genre? Seems like the series reached its maximun potential as GTA4 was not as good as the previous two GTA games – seems like Saints Row 3 is the game to beat now and they are going all out.”
    Yup. It’s called red dead redemption. ;)

  129. ncaissie:

    ““and even then I was with a big tough guy so I was pretty ok.”
    *cough* I mean I AM a big tough guy *cough cough*”
    LMFAO sure you did. Bf?

  130. ncaissie:

    Btw I’m a crown royal drinker. I like beer but I get bad migraines the next day.

  131. FahKinSuPah:

    @ncaissie

    “I like beer but I get bad migraines the next day.”

    Its possible that you might need to drink some water with that beer lol. A friend of mine had the same problem, so i recommended that to him too and it worked.

  132. dans303:

    I don’t drink any beer. Vile stuff. I’m strictly Spirits and the occasional Cider.

  133. twilight:

    I don’t really drink but I have an addiction to sweet tea. I really love iced tea. Most people like coffee but I always have to have sweet tea.
    Ncaissie,
    We are another day closer to Uncharted 3. If I didn’t have to go to work the next day, I would make an exception and actually get this game at the midnight release. Even though I lost a huge chunk of my game saves when my original system failed, I loved Uncharted 2 so much that I actually beat this game in one day. I got the game on Saturday and didn’t put it down until I had completed the game. I only paused the game to eat and for the occasional bathroom break. It was a glorious experience spending time with Nathan Drake and the other game characters. Uncharted has it all. Great story. Check. Graphics check. Gameplay. Check. All of the elements that make a great game Uncharted has it.

  134. ncaissie:

    Cool, I took the day off and did that with GOW 3.
    My doctor has had me off and this is my fifth week. I won’t be taking any more time off.
    Is anyone else getting the CE? I’m going to actualy wear the necklace with the ring on it. Lmao how nerdy is that?
    I need to make a trophy cabinet for my collectors edition collectables. I’ll have pandoras box right in the middle. I just started with the CE games. My first was fallout 3 then GOW 3 then DCUO then KZ3 and now U3. Arkham City CE looks sweet.

  135. me_:

    “GTA4 was not as good as the previous two GTA games – seems like Saints Row 3 is the game to beat now and they are going all out.”

    So you enjoyed Saints Row 2 (81) more than GTA4 (98)?

  136. dans303:

    @me_

    He said “Saints Row 3″ ie the one that is about to come out and also the one that looks fricking insane.

  137. CON:

    No comeback lol

  138. FahKinSuPah:

    Saint’s Row 2 had much more humor to it than GTA4.

    Also the co-op mode was fucking awsome and GTA4 didn’t have that.

    Also I give SR2 points for orginality with some of the vehicles. Flying around in the UFO was really fun. And the motorcycles were awsome too. Taking a sword and slicing people up as you drive by them on a bike is awsome.

  139. oldschool1987:

    Does it need a comeback? Funny how you say that because you’re the one who’s been dodging my question for a month:

    Why is my personal life and politics so important to you that you feel it’s relevant on a gaming website?

    Will you ever answer?

  140. me_:

    Kind of silly to say it’s the “game to beat” if it hasn’t even been released yet. Particularly when there was such a huge difference in review scores for the last iterations too.

    Anyway I think I’m with most people here and would prefer to see RDR 2.

  141. oldschool1987:

    Nah I’m all for a GTAV. 4s problem was its lack of variety, San Andreas is still the game to beat.

  142. phranctoast:

    Aren’t the RDR and GTA two different development teams?

    I think the next RDR may be a 2013 title or at the very least be a next gen title.

  143. Roca.:

    Rockstar have their hands full with GTAV, Max Payne and Agent (if it’s still in development).

    @Me_
    I should’ve said “GTA4 was not as original as the previous 2 and it certainly didn’t bring anything new to the franchise”…

    Saints Rows 3 seems like a fresh new experience.

  144. CarlB:

    “@carl no but they get props for being honest this time.”

    riight. I guess they just weren’t “being honest” about the other 27 some odd PS3 exclusives they gave 90 or above to or the 40 plus they gave editors choice awards to.

    http://ps3.ign.com/index/top-reviewed.html

    Bunch’a big ol’ fibbers.

  145. Godless:

    IGN are usually pretty fair with their reviews

    I think the main problem here is that the PS3 boys can’t accept any criticism of anything PS3 related.

  146. twilight:

    I just hate biased reviews like Euro’s 8 score of Uncharted 3. Brink got an eight as well. There is no way that Uncharted 3 is on the same level as the game Brink.

  147. Roca.:

    @Godless
    iirc, the few times we have discredit IGN was based on their reivew score on some Multiplatform games such as Castlevania, Dante’s Inferno and other.

    I also pointed out that COD (don’t remember which one) got a 10 for graphics but KZ and Uncharted didn’t get a 10.

    There have been other cases where they praise the game during the entire review and on the last paragraph they mention one or two issues about the game and based on that the game ends up with a low score.

  148. Roca.:

    The problem with IGN is that they are not consistent with their reivews.

  149. CON:

    “Does it need a comeback?”

    BNP racists can’t join the police lol

  150. phranctoast:

    That’s the problem with different reviewers on one website. There’s never going to be true consistency.

    Look at Destructoid for one. U3 got a 10 from them. If Jim Sterling reviewed it it would have gotten an 8 at best. Meanwhile he gives Kirby Return to Dreamland a 10 while everyone else gives it an 8.

    Certain reviewers are just poor reviewers. They have theiu minds made up on what they want to give a game, and work to critique trivial problems to justify a lower score.

  151. phranctoast:

    @CON
    JUST FUCKING STOP ALREADY!

  152. oldschool1987:

    Still avoiding my question? LMFAO! Class! Everyone you do it makes me lol.

  153. oldschool1987:

    Remember when you called Ivan a spick? Hypocrite.

  154. phranctoast:

    “iirc, the few times we have discredit IGN was based on their reivew score on some Multiplatform games such as Castlevania, Dante’s Inferno and other.”

    I could say I had issues with Dantes Inferno reviews, but it wasn’t just IGN. The game got way too much flack for ripping off GOW. I felt the game was a solid 8.5 and should have at least scored that on MC.

  155. phranctoast:

    1 out of 6 comments CON are about games. That 1 comment was your potential troll post. You are truly useless here.

  156. phranctoast:

    @OS.don’t encourage this.
    He can’t simply believe you’re a BNP holocaust denier. He’s trolling you.
    If you are, than I’m a War mongering socialist since I voted for Bush and Obama. His logic is flawed and straight up retarded.

  157. CON:

    Hmm making fun of someones english or a racist holocaust denier?????

    You brought my name into this thread so what did you expect??

    Bullshitting about joining the police force when they don’t accept racists!!! LOL

    OWNED

  158. CON:

    Phranc

    Vote for whoever you like, what an stupid point

  159. CON:

    A police constable whose name appeared on a leaked list of British National Party (BNP) members has been sacked, Merseyside Police said.

    news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/7956824.stm

    Even Dave Parrack wrote about this story!!!

    tech.blorge.com/Structure:%20/2008/11/19/leaked-bnp-member-list-google-maps-mash-up/

    FUCKING OWNED YOU!!!!!!!

  160. phranctoast:

    @godless

    “IGN are usually pretty fair with their reviews

    I think the main problem here is that the PS3 boys can’t accept any criticism of anything PS3 related.”

    What IGN does that bothers me, is they let the wrong person review games. I’m not saying give it to the guy who’s going to felate the game in the review but look at how it is here.

    Who would be better to judge a properly critique Dark Sould here?
    Capt or Roca?
    And before you think Roca doesn’t critique games he cares about check this out

    http://www.amazon.com/forum/video%20games/ref=cm_cd_pg_pg1?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1T1DM93QU4XL1&cdPage=1&cdSort=oldest&cdThread=Tx3V08O50OHVUM2

    Who would be the better judge of a COD game? Someone who can find the faults with the MP and call that out since as they are familiar with the series or someone who is completely new and may not properly judge it best either one way or another?

    When IGN has the sports game guy reviewing ratchet and clank I was pissed.

    I want to know how it fares against the other games.

  161. Roca.:

    I have been critiquing some of my favortie gaming franchises or Sony products –

    -FF13: Loved all FF games including FF12 which drastically changed the core elements of all other FF game but it was still an epic FF game. FF13 suck so bad I couldn’t even get past chapter 6/7. I even fell asleep a few times while playing it.

    -GoW3: Not as epic as GOW2. GOW2 set the bar too high and GOW2 failed to come close.

    -Socom: It was my favorite online game during the PS2 era from 1 to 3. Both PS3 Socom games suck and they deserve the score they got.

    -Resistance 2: The only think I enjoyed was the 8-player co-op. Other than that I think the game failed by trying to be like COD and the MP was a mess and the graphics weren’t that good.

    -SF4:AE & SF3rd Strike: one was a ripoff and the other was an overpriced & shitty port. I still love them but don’t support what Capcom is doing.

    -PSP: I was the first one to admit given up on the PSP..long before PS Vita was even a rumor.

    I have a few things to say about Infamous 2 but I will wait a little longer to avoid spoiling the game for those who have not played the game yet.

  162. oldschool1987:

    You have to sign up to the BNP retard. FUCKING OWNED YOU!

    Dodged question again.

  163. CON:

    Also includes voting… you racist grunt

  164. oldschool1987:

    Didn’t vote remember, fail.

    You called Ivan a spick. Racist.

    Question avoided again!

    OWNED LMFAO!!!!

  165. Roca.:

    CON did call Ivan a spick for being latin american. Ivan showed him who’s the better man by not getting involved in CON’s racial slurs

  166. CON:

    DON’T ACT AS IF YOU CHANGED YOUR MIND! Bullshitter!!!! You were too dumb to register…….dumb grunt! lol you openly confessed to this below.

    gamer.blorge.com/2010/05/06/xbox-live-gamers-vote-for-lib-dems/

    Avoiding what? You’re a racist how is that political you dumbass????

    Pathetic attempt at deflecting with the Ivan comment. I clearly asked what a spic was, it was a dig at his english nothing more. Nice try.

    According to the BNP 2001 general election manifesto, “native Britons”, who they claim can only be white, would be given priority in the job market. “Non-whites” would instantly become second class citizens in Britain.

    Any black person who commits a crime would also be thrown out of the country, even those who were born here.

    Mixed race relationships would be outlawed.

  167. CON:

    LOL at rocas cheap troll attempt

  168. oldschool1987:

    Lol you’re so retarded!!! I openly admitted on this article or another recent one that I did try to vote. It couldn’t because I didn’t realise I had to register, never tried voting before and I even admitted that I won’t make the mistake of voting them again ever since YOU told me about there darker side, I only knew about their immigration policies.

    You didn’t have to waste your time going back months and months pmsl! Idiot.

    Still haven’t answered my question, your so scared to answer.

    @ Roca: Ivan is the better man for not replying, I can’t help but enjoy owning CON lol.

  169. CON:

    You were fucking caught out. You tried saying you changed your mind about voting bnp because you didn’t realise their views…this is like roca not knowing what the kkks policies are, you may be a sum grunt but you’re not that dumb.

    It was only until I posted that link above that you were finally caught out for the bullshitter that you are.

    Roca

    Dig up the Ivan comment and show me where I mentioned his nationality lol lying troll. It was purely about him being illiterate. Actually got it from Family Guy. Spick is not a term used in Europe.

  170. oldschool1987:

    Still dodged my question.

    And I explained before you posted a link. Fuck me you’re stupid. Look around these last few articles or this one it’s there. If you didn’t see it then oh well, shucks.

    Answer my question. Why is my life and politics important to you and this website?

  171. oldschool1987:

    “And just for the record, I’m not a member of the BNP. Find me a quote where I said I have signed up to the BNP. I went to vote for them due to their tough policies on immigration but luckily enough I couldn’t vote because I didn’t realise you had to register to votw(which is retarded). I’ll be honest CON, it was because of you I found out more about them, so I wouldn’t make the mistake of trying to vote them again.”

    There it is, above. Before your link.

    Sing it with me:

    OWNNNEEEEEDDDDDDDD.

    Answer my question.

  172. CaptBirdman:

    “Who would be better to judge a properly critique Dark Sould here?
    Capt or Roca?”

    Nice tactic.

    I’d say me though, cause in the end, Roca is a FANBOY, what the fuck, can you not see that? Hell, 9 times out of 10 I judge games dispassionately, even if on PS3, and I’m labeled a PS3 fanboy.

    So why wouldn’t I be a better judge? I’d say I’d trust someone who has a track record of being unbiased regardless of their system of choice, than someone who clearly would have personal vendettas against games on the other system, not to mention he cannot get facts straight and is a notorious cherry picking scumbag?

    So what was your question again?

  173. twilight:

    Lol @ Birdman.
    I actually call it like I see it when it comes to Ps3/Xbox360 games. I think everyone has a system that they prefer. I don’t bash games just to be bashing games because they are on Xbox360. A good game is a good game regardless. Even though I may not personally like a game or specific genre of game, I can still show respect to a game that deserves respect. For example, I like sports titles. There are manyA gamers that hate sports titles. I am fine with that. However, I have a problem when people just bash sports titles just because they hate sports. Like most other genres of gaming, there are really good sports titles and there are subpar sports titles. Nba2K12 is an incredible sports

  174. phranctoast:

    You honestly believe you would be a good judge of Dark Souls?

    excuse me while i just laugh about that to myself.

  175. CarlB:

    So in reality, a minority of IGN reviews (reviewers) have not fell in line with a few gamers opinion of what the game should have been, while the majority seem conservatively fair, or at least in line with what the rest of the industry reviewed (as in the case of Dante’s Inferno -75) if not more conservative but still favorable (as in the case of CLoS, IGN UK- 85). Somehow gamers think these are “bad” scores, when in fact they are “good” or better for IGN.

  176. twilight:

    title along with Fifa 12. These games deserve the recognition that they get because these games are the best at what they represent.

  177. CaptBirdman:

    Go ahead, I’d laugh with you.

    Whilst I’m willing to give that game a fair shake, because I know what to expect this time due to Demon’s Souls, I’ll have to admit it won’t be judged dispassionately lol. It’d be the 1 out of 10 games I was talking about earlier ;)

    However, the rest of my comment stands. What you said was that you don’t take IGN or Destructiod seriously because of a specific review’s bias. So I ask your question to you, albeit in a slightly different way.

    Who would be better to judge a properly critique any other game not developed by From Software here?
    Capt or Roca?

    No bullshit, just answer.

  178. phranctoast:

    I think you missed my point on the original post I made, but I’ll play..

    I feel you would be a better judge of COD games because you play them more than Me and Roca and can identify specific flaws where he/me may not be able to.

    You would be a better judge of 360 games. I think you would be less biased and more inclined to give a fair review. I base that response off of Alan Wake.

  179. CaptBirdman:

    No I got your point, and was with you up until you put my name in it to get your “point” across. Hence the “Nice tactic” quip.

    I would be a better reviewer of almost any game than Roca would be. Just a fact.

    Hell, he hardly writes coherent sentences, come on now…at least you’d be able to read my nonsense. ;)

  180. Roca.:

    what are you trying to say – that I’m a From Software fanboy? LMAO you are just grasping for straws now.

    3D Dot Game Heroes – I played and it was a cool game but you won’t see me praising as the game was decent at best.

    You on the other hand think Pokemon is better and deeper than Demon’s Souls…with with ALL Pokemon games having lower MC score..

    Here’s how your review about Dark Souls will look like:

    Review: 1/10
    Trash, badly design with bad gameplay control and mechanics

    ^ All that based on playing about 5% of the game.

  181. CaptBirdman:

    “what are you trying to say – that I’m a From Software fanboy? LMAO you are just grasping for straws now.”

    Haha what an idiot. I’m saying I PERSONALLY don’t like the games from those guys you bloody twat. Admittedly, I’m refraining from formulating an opinion on Dark, cause I ain’t played it yet. Waiting on my mate to buy it to be honest…

    “You on the other hand think Pokemon is better and deeper than Demon’s Souls…with with ALL Pokemon games having lower MC score..”

    Well…not ALL the pokemon games. Only those with a colour or mineral attached. Playing through White right now, and you’d be amazed at the deepness of this game. Literally put in 67 hours, and I’m so far from accomplishing what I want to accomplish. Actually, I feel a bit overwhelmed with the sheer amount of options I am presented with.

    Yet here you are bringing up MC scores again. I’ll bite.

    What was the MC score for Crysis 2 and KZ3 on PS3? ;)

    How about Mass Effect 2 on PS3 vs Demon’s Souls? ;)

    Oh and I wouldn’t review Dark Souls, probably because I wouldn’t finish it, if it’s anything like it predecessor…

  182. Roca.:

    “Oh and I wouldn’t review Dark Souls, probably because I wouldn’t finish it, if it’s anything like it predecessor…”

    so Phranc was correct. I would be a better reviewer for Dark Souls and you will be the better choice for Pokemon games.

  183. CaptBirdman:

    Nope, still wrong.

    You can’t review anything if you can’t put personal bias aside.

    The fact that you keep say Pokemon is evidence enough. Begone fanboy troll.

    Fuck is Oldschool’s spray when you really need it…

  184. CarlB:

    Play through of a game in it’s entirety and experience with the series, unless it’s just totally broken (neither DS or Pokemon is), does tend to make for a more credible assessment of a game. In that regard roca would be better qualified to review DS and cap would be better qualified to review Pokemon.

    As for writing, assessment, accuracy, objectivity, etc. the proof is yet to be seen. Link to your review (cap could do whichever version of Pokemon and roca can do Demon’s Souls) on Blorge.net and I’m sure we could decide rather easily who is better in writing reviews, regardless of them being different games.

  185. CaptBirdman:

    Ha.

    That’d be a good idea if this were a forum, and I had to adhere to specific…”rules”, as in no cursing or whatever.

    I tend to be a little vulgar, so I’d bow out of that immediately.

    However, if you’re asking for a writing contest (not sure if you are)

    you kidding right?

    I’m actually qualified to write, if I were so inclined. Writing a review about games would not only be cake, it’d be Red Velvet.

    And what’s with the Pokemon quips? Why wouldn’t you want a review about Mass Effect, or Half Life?

    Don’t say bias, cause hell, the way you guys keep throwing Pokemon around, you’d think I was a fanboy…

  186. CON:

    Liam mcnulty bnp holocaust denier

    That link above dates long before I ever brought the subject up! Lol

    Trying to say you didn’t know the bnps policies is like saying you don’t know what policies were and that I helped you see the light? Pull the other one! Such a bullshitter! Lol

  187. oldschool1987:

    Answer my question.

  188. oldschool1987:

    “Fuck is Oldschool’s spray when you really need it…”

    Used it all on Godless pal.

    Anyway I’m thinking of getting Political Troll Spray next for CON, he comes on this site just to get involved in my politics and presume to know everything I believe. I swear he thinks he’s on Politic.Blorge. He ALWAYS brings up politics and NEVER talks anything else. Wish Mike would just ban his racist ass and be done with it, he doesn’t contribute anything to this website except hate. He only hates me because of my job choice lmao how sad is that. I ain’t replying to him anymore until he answers my question, he has flapped it from answering for about a month.

  189. phranctoast:

    @Carlb
    Figured you would like this. ;)
    http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=449885

  190. CarlB:

    “I’m actually qualified to write”

    Having a degree in English isn’t a prerequisite to writing good game reviews, and you could curse if you felt the need. Roca can write well enough when he wants to, and Blorge.net is a forum.

    Yes, writing well about games is easy enough. I’ve been published here for it before, but I haven’t seen any of your work. I’ve only heard you talk trash about how you could write a better game review than Roca, with nothing to show for it but more talk.

    “And what’s with the Pokemon quips?”

    Me mentioning Pokemon wasn’t a quip. You are a self-professed lover of Pokemon games and claim to be highly knowledgeable when it comes to Pokemon. Roca seems just as knowledgeable when it comes to Demon’s Souls.
    I didn’t know you would be so sensitive about it.

  191. CarlB:

    @phranc
    Found this in the link that I figured you would enjoy even more. ;)
    http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=185060

  192. Roca.:

    “I didn’t know you would be so sensitive about it”

    You need to visit Blorge more often ;)

  193. phranctoast:

    Ouch. Makes me respect Eurogamer that much less.

  194. CarlB:

    @phranc,
    Here’s his response:
    http://www.ign.com/blogs/daemon-ign/2011/10/26/concerning-my-pixeljunk-sidescroller-review/

  195. CarlB:

    @roca,

    I guess it’s understandable. Once his suit was confiscated and he ran out of pepper spray he must have decided to fight the innumerable crimes of grammatical errors perpetrated on the internet instead.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4bjJAAALDE

    Go Phoenix!

  196. phranctoast:

    @CB
    Can you post it? I can’t get to IGN from work. Thanks.

  197. phranctoast:

    The link you showed from darkfallonline reminded me of a similar one with FF13 from another reviewer where they proved he didn’t play that much of the game based on his trophy count.
    That’s a real embarrassment. Just do your job reviewers.

  198. Roca.:

    LOL

  199. CarlB:

    Here you go phranc:

    “So today I reviewed PixelJunk SideScroller. I played on a PlayStation 3 test kit with review code provided by Sony. I gave it a 6.5. One of the developers was upset and accused me of not playing the game on the normal difficulty. This isn’t true — I beat SideScroller twice, once on casual and then on normal. The content was exactly the same in both play throughs. When I assured the developer I had played on normal, he said I would have unlocked an “epic last stage.” I was confused, because I didn’t seem to unlock anything except the hard difficulty.
    To clarify, there are three stages in SideScroller. In both casual and normal mode, when you complete all three stages you unlock the “last stage.” So I played through this last stage on both difficulties.
    I thought this line in my review might be bothering him: “Finish the last stage and defeat the final boss and what is your reward? A swift kick back to the title screen with no more than ‘congratulations.’
    That is technically a true statement, although after completing normal mode there is a brief scene telling you you’ve unlocked hard mode. That scene was not significant to me, but upon reflection I thought maybe I wasn’t being fair. So I removed the above sentence from my review, not to hide anything but in a hope to not mislead anyone into thinking there isn’t a brief little something at the end of the game, however insignificant. To me, this wasn’t an important change to the review — it didn’t change my score and all the important information about the game is still there. Tweaking articles is common practice on the internet. Should we notate every change to an article we make? Perhaps, but IGN doesn’t have a standard in place for doing so.
    Anyways, I should have just left the article the way it was because there was nothing factually wrong with it and changing seems to have bothered some people, including the developer. I put the sentence back in and am writing this blog post to try and clear things up.
    I think PixelJunk SideScroller is an “okay” game, which is what a 6.5 means on the IGN scale. I beat it on both normal and casual modes and saw the same content in both play throughs. The only perk I can find for beating the game on normal is unlocking hard mode.”

  200. Roca.:

    “Finish the last stage and defeat the final boss and what is your reward? A swift kick back to the title screen with no more than ‘congratulations.”

    Seriously, what did he expect from an on-rails sidescroller shooter?

  201. CarlB:

    He expected similar quality to the other PixelJunk titles, and longer play time than less than an hour on normal for $10.
    http://ps3.ign.com/articles/121/1210725p1.html

  202. Roca.:

    seems to me that he’s just making up excuses after he got cought lying and tried “fix” (so unprofessional) his review but the developer already had already taken some screenshots.

    His reivew score or the quality of the game doesn’t seem to be the issue – the issue is that he lied and he did not give the game a fair chance since he rushed through it on casual mode.

  203. phranctoast:

    It looks like a lot of backpedaling.
    If he was telling the truth he shouldn’t have felt obligated to remove part of the review after getting called out on it. It looks like he figured out a way to save face and realized he could have done so without editing the review.

    Like CarlB pointed out. This isn’t just an IGN thing. It’s industry wide.

    I would like to see more reviewers “called out” on this practice. Whether it be looking at trophies/achievements or server time spent on titles. Devlopement and publishing is a business. I’m surprised they don’t have people overseeing things like this.

    I personally would love to know if the reviewer who’s review I’m reading bothered with MP aspects of the game,and how long they did so.

    There’s lazy people in all different fields. Just another example..

  204. dans303:

    If I had as awesome a job as these guys there is no way I’d be half-arsing it.

  205. Roca.:

    review builds should have their own trophies that gets reported back to the publishers/developers.

  206. CON:

    @LIAM MCNULTY AKA BNP HOLOCAUST DENIER

    You brought my name into this thread not me you dumb grunt fuck. Every time you do you’ll get the same response from me. :)

  207. phranctoast:

    “review builds should have their own trophies that gets reported back to the publishers/developers.”

    Good idea. And servers that only they log into when they review the mp portion of the game.

  208. ncaissie:

    “-GoW3: Not as epic as GOW2. GOW2 set the bar too high and GOW2 failed to come close.”

    If you meant

    “-GoW3: Not as epic as GOW2. GOW2 set the bar too high and GOW3 failed to come close.”

    Not a chance. Gow3 is the greatest game of all time. Gow2 was good but 3 so far is untouchable.

  209. oldschool1987:

    You brought politics into this thread so answer my question.

  210. CaptBirdman:

    @OldB

    Nah, not sensitivity– I care as little about what you think as you care about hard candy, cause, you know, they screw up your dentures.

    It’s more a curiosity. And self professed lover? Ha, your old ass keeps putting extras on shit man. You just make sure your Dependable gets change, understand?

    “Having a degree in English isn’t a prerequisite to writing good game reviews, ”

    Yea, you’re right. It’s a prerequisite to writing GREAT game reviews, thanks for the correction.

    “and Blorge.net is a forum.”

    Uh, no it isn’t. It’s a blog– a forum has a specific format, perhaps you’re too advanced in age to perceive the difference? Yeah I understand the Information Age is a bit unfriendly for those born in the 19th century, but don’t fret. There are multiple websites at your disposal, Noah.

    “Yes, writing well about games is easy enough. I’ve been published here for it before, but I haven’t seen any of your work. I’ve only heard you talk trash about how you could write a better game review than Roca, with nothing to show for it but more talk”

    Your…point? This site is not to be taken seriously in my opinion. Why would I want to be published on it?? We have guys talking about politics, liars and homosexuality. You’re obviously proud you got published here. To this I say

    LMAO.

    Done with you man. I don’t even know why you try to talk to me…

  211. oldschool1987:

    “We have guys talking about politics”

    Correction. There is one guy talking politics, I don’t do politics but this boring fucker thrives on it lol.

  212. CaptBirdman:

    i didn’t mean you

  213. oldschool1987:

    Too late Bird, you hurt my feelings already!!!

    *sobs*

  214. CaptBirdman:

    Lol

    What’s your DS friend code?

    We should battle :) You still playing Black?

    (It’s like the only game we both have and can play competitively)

  215. CarlB:

    @ Phoenix Jones (aka Capt Bi-Man),

    You must have some kind of advanced aging disease in your family tree if people are wearing Depends and dentures at age 38. Sorry, don’t have that problem.

    And what, do you not love Pokemon anymore?

    This video would seem to suggest otherwise:

    http://www.break.com/game-trailers/game/pokemon-platinum/black-man-loves-pokemon

    Just watch the carbs, mmmkay?

    “It’s a prerequisite to writing GREAT game reviews”

    Of course. Because every great game review was written by someone with a degree in English. Riiight.

    “Uh, no it isn’t.”

    Really? Blorge.net isn’t a forum?

    http://blorge.net/

    Trying paying closer attention next time junior.

    “Why would I want to be published on it??”

    I don’t know. Maybe because you already visit it quite often? But that’s fine, link to any site where you’ve written a review and we’ll compare it to roca’s submission. Or you could just keep on talking trash with nothing to back it up.

  216. CarlB:

    @ Phoenix Jones (aka Capt Bi-Man),

    You must have some kind of advanced aging disease in your family tree if people are wearing Depends and dentures at age 38. Sorry, don’t have that problem.

    And what, do you not love Pokemon anymore?

    This video would seem to suggest otherwise:

    http://www.break.com/game-trailers/game/pokemon-platinum/black-man-loves-pokemon

    Just watch the carbs, mmmkay?

    “It’s a prerequisite to writing GREAT game reviews”

    Of course. Because every great game review was written by someone with a degree in English. Riiight.

    “Why would I want to be published on it??”

    I don’t know. Maybe because you already visit it quite often? But that’s fine, link to any site where you’ve written a review and we’ll compare it to roca’s submission. Or you could just keep on talking trash with nothing to back it up.

  217. CarlB:

    “Uh, no it isn’t.”

    Really? Blorge.net isn’t a forum?

    http://blorge.net/

    Trying paying closer attention next time junior.

  218. CarlB:

    @roca,

    The only way to find out if he was lying is to play it for yourself or perhaps to read other reviews. Of course, the developer could add a patch which just happens to include an “epic” fourth unlockable level after the review build, but who knows?
    There are still no other reviews out, and I’m not going to pay $10 for a game that is said to last less than an hour.

  219. oldschool1987:

    Not sure Bird, I’ll get it for you tomorrow. Ain’t played my 3D since I beat Zelda. Regret buying it now, it’s collecting dust like my Wii and 360 lol.

  220. CaptBirdman:

    “you could just keep on talking trash”

    Perhaps that’s why I “visit it quite often?”

    “Really? Blorge.net isn’t a forum?”

    Damn, got me there. Overlooked that bit, thought you were referring to this. However to be fair, you’re still in the wrong there because [when I was talking to Roca] I was talking about what I personally frequent: this BLOG. But that’s understandable. You’re OldB. You always jump to other subjects, especially those that no one was talking about. Still, fair play to you.

    Hmm, you don’t personally feel the video from Break was a bit much? I mean, considering you’re one of the few people that know what I actually look like, and one of the many people that know I speak with an English accent and not a bad American one, wouldn’t you consider that a fail on your part?

    Or is this video of “you” and your mates accurate as well?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDBnHNJjJv0

    “Of course. Because every great game review was written by someone with a degree in English. Riiight.”

    Decent straw man there. But is that my point? Or has your Alzheimer’s deteriorated your grey matter that much? Couldn’t be, because you’re an intelligent guy…Riiight.

    “we’ll compare it to roca’s submission.”

    Jokes aside, I am intrigued. I would honestly like the link to what he wrote.

  221. CarlB:

    “you’re still in the wrong there”

    I said “Blorge.net” from the start, and mentioned it multiple times afterwards, you simply misread. It happens.

    The video was in jest, just like the Phoenix Jones one, Chappelle doing Prince, and the TV on the Radio guy before that. I thought they were mildly amusing in their own right and worth sharing for a laugh. Try not to take it too seriously.

    But yes, thank you for the link to that Marine video. The guy with the prosthetic arm and the old vet get me every time. Accurate? Well, they are just images of Marines throughout history, so yes, as far as I know.

    “But is that my point?”

    That’s what I gleaned from, “It’s a prerequisite to writing GREAT game reviews”. Perhaps you would care to rewrite your statement?

    “I would honestly like the link to what he wrote.”

    As I would to what you wrote, though it has yet to appear.
    Considering you are the one talking trash about how much better you are, it is only natural that you provide the link first.

  222. CaptBirdman:

    Yeah it was funny, actually. I know that guy from his youtube vids… you should check out the ones he does about fast food restaurants… fucking hilarious. I mean he is a big fat guy ;)

    Yeah the link I posted was more a respectful one, and a joke at the same time.

  223. CarlB:

    Sorry, I didn’t find any humor in the tribute video… I guess I just have a different paradigm based upon my experience.

  224. CaptBirdman:

    Oh all you had to do was look at the title.

    For your age.

  225. CarlB:

    That’s actually young in nanotech enhanced years.

  226. Roca.:

    @CarlB
    From Kotaku:
    “Should You Buy PixelJunk SideScroller? Yes

    PixelJunk SideScroller is the latest PS3 title from Q-Games. The Kyoto-based game studio continues to churn out high quality digital games for the PS3 under its PixelJunk banner. SideScroller is a vector-infused side-scrolling shooter.

    You shoot at enemies with one of three weapons you have, which you can upgrade through power-ups. The game scrolls as you play. You shoot. If you’ve played classic side-scrollers like Gradius, you’ll be on familiar ground. That’s doesn’t mean this game is a retro rehash—not at all.

    Brian Ashcraft, who has found his new favorite shooter:
    Man, this is a good game. PixelJunk continuously surprises and delights as it effortlessly leaps from genre to genre, producing not only incredibly polished, but wonderfully inventive takes on familiar favorites. Yes, this is a sidescroller, but it’s unlike any sidescroller I’ve ever played.

    There are the obligatory giant bosses and haze of projectiles, but the game incorporates elements like solids and liquids, fire and ice in a compelling and interesting way that makes the game more than simply shooting at something and having it blow-up.

    Yet, even just as a pure shooter—and I love these types of shooters—SideScroller delivers and dazzles. The enemies are familiar, but still fresh. And the giant bosses are…giant.

    My favorite thing about Q-Games is the obsessive attention to detail and the way they make everything just so. These titles are made by people obsessed with making high quality games. It’s at a level that’s rarely seen outside of Nintendo games, and every PixelJunk game I fire up, I can’t help but think that I’m playing something special.

    The flourishes, from a retro arcade monitor to the “Insert Coin” prompt, create an arcade experience you never had, but only wish you could have. All this, and it’s set to some truly chill music. I’ve always enjoyed unwinding to shooters, and PixelJunk: SideScroller is my new relax remedy. So is it worth picking up? Yes.”

    http://m.kotaku.com/5854154/

  227. CarlB:

    Yep, looks like they avoided mentioning it took under an hour to complete a normal play-through also.

  228. Roca.:

    how would you know it took him under an hour to complete? It seems to me that they didn’t rush through it on ‘casual’ mode.

    Ars Technica:

    “There are 13 levels to fight through, and I’m still in the process of seeing everything there is to see. With the ability to record videos of your play to upload to YouTube, play with a friend in co-op, and see how you stack up against other players on the leader boards, there is plenty here to justify the $10 download.

    The price is right, the length is perfect, the graphics are beautiful, and the levels feature clever design. It’s hard to find anything to complain about. If you’re a fan of classic arcade games, this feels like something that came out of a time capsule, with enough modern stylings to feel fresh. Go buy it”

    http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/10/10-pixeljunk-sidescroller-on-the-ps3-is-a-warm-hug-from-your-shooter-past.ars

  229. ncaissie:

    ““Uh, no it isn’t.”
    Really? Blorge.net isn’t a forum?
    http://blorge.net/

    Lmao kids these days a?

  230. CarlB:

    “how would you know it took him under an hour to complete?”

    If another reviewer would even mention how long it takes to play through once on normal it would either support or conflict with his review. None has.

    NC,

    Remember, he’s had exceptional training to survive the zombie apocalypse. He’s special.

  231. Roca.:

    NC – “Lmao kids these days a?”

    CarlB – “Remember, he’s had exceptional training to survive the zombie apocalypse. He’s special”

    he’s better qualified to survive the zombie apocalypse than anyone else in the world lol.

  232. Roca.:

    @Carlb

    Gamepro review = 91

    http://www.1up.com/reviews/pixeljunk-sidescroller-ps3

  233. CarlB:

    Interesting. Still no mention of how long for a playthrough, just that it is shorter than the normal PixelJunk series games. They all got their reviews out fairly quick and are talking about multiple play throughs as well. The last decent retro style game I played through that was under an hour I got for free as a mini: Age of Zombies.

  234. Roca.:

    They get the review codes weeks before the game is release. We are already seeing reviews for Uncharted 3 a week before it’s released.

    Reviewers usually don’t mention the length of the game unless it’s really really short. If the length is just right you won’t see anyone complaining.

    Also this game offer alot of things to keep busy for much longer. I’m pretty sure Limbo and Child of Eden are much longer and IGN gave both of them a great score….In this case the reviewer tried to cut corners and got cought doing so.

    All other revies have been positive and they don’t have anything negative to say about the game.

    Kotaku: Buy? YES
    Ars Technica: Buy
    Gamepro: A-/A+ (91/100)

  235. CarlB:

    “Limbo and Child of Eden are much longer and IGN gave both of them a great score…”

    The main justification for the score was because it was so short compared to other games for that amount of money.

    “In this case the reviewer tried to cut corners and got cought doing so.”

    Neither one of us will know he cut corners unless we play it ourselves or a reviewer specifically states it takes hours to complete a normal playthrough. Neither has happened, so I’ll reserve my judgment.

  236. Roca.:

    “Neither one of us will know he cut corners unless we play it ourselves”

    I’m pretty sure the developer of the game have played the game and can tell whether or not the reviewer cut corners.

    Reviwers won’t mention how long it took to complete a game if the length was just right. They usually point that out if the length is a issue (too short) or if the game will take you MANY hours to complete (RDR).

    “The main justification for the score was because it was so short compared to other games for that amount of money”

    Child of Eden cost $50 and it’s only a 90 minute game and that didn’t stop Joystiq from giving it a 5/5 rating

    “You can beat it in a single sitting (or, as the case may be, standing), with the game’s five chapters clocking in at a scant 90 minutes”

    http://www.joystiq.com/2011/06/14/child-of-eden-review/

  237. CarlB:

    Reviewers point out if a game is too short for the money.

    I’m pretty sure the developer of the game did not watch the reviewer play the game, so he can’t tell whether or not he cut corners.

    Child of Eden is a good example, even if it does clock in a “few hours” more of gameplay:

    “it does not push boundaries the way Rez did, and with what amounts to just a few hours of raw, quantifiable gameplay in store, it’s kind of a hard sell, perhaps even moreso than the original Rez.”

    http://www.giantbomb.com/child-of-eden/61-31716/reviews/

    As with sidescroller, criticisms included the lack of length in the game and not pushing the boundaries as it’s predecessor(/s) had.

  238. CaptBirdman:

    “he’s better qualified to survive the zombie apocalypse than anyone else in the world lol.”

    You’re damned skippy, biggity bitch.

  239. CarlB:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSuvOVH0aSQ

  240. Roca.:

    @CarlB

    Gameradar – 8/10
    http://www.gamesradar.com/pixeljunk-sidescroller-review/

    IGXPRO – “, Sidescroller is still a solid, old-school shooter that’s undoubtedly worth the game’s low ten dollar price-tag. Between finding all the secrets, going for high scores and the leaderboards, mastering the game’s nuanced weapon-switching, or simply playing for the purpose of hearing the game’s exquisite soundtrack, there’s a lot of reasons to keep playing Sidescroller after you finish your first run through the game’s single player campaign… and if you get tired of doing it by yourself, there’s a co-op mode as well. PixelJunk Sidescroller is definitely worth your time and money, and while you may chuck your controller once or twice in frustration, you’ll almost always pick it up again and keep playing.”

    8/10

    h**p://igxpro.net/2011/10/29/pixeljunk-sidescroller-review/0111126

  241. CarlB:

    Roca, can you find one that mentions how long it takes for a normal playthrough?

    Again, at $10, I’m not going to pay for what is said to be less than an hour of play.

    I’ll definitely pick it up when it comes free with my PSN Plus subscription.

  242. Roca.:

    idk CarlB – “Sidescroller is still a solid, old-school shooter that’s undoubtedly worth the game’s low ten dollar price-tag”

    the point is that IGN is the only site giving the game a low review score and they were also the only one being called out for cutting corner and not giving the game a chance.

    all other reviewers haven’t mentioned any issues with the game’s length..They are all giving it great reviews and not many complains

  243. CarlB:

    PSX Extreme
    Oct 31, 2011
    75
    “This $10 package just feels a trifle light on content, that’s all. Otherwise, PixelJunk SideScroller is nod to the golden age of gaming; for the most part, it moves right, the design and atmosphere is a big bonus, and the soundtrack continues to set the PixelJunk franchise apart. But with three stages, not a ton of gameplay options and variety, and a two-player option that seems too frustrating, I can’t recommend this with as much conviction as I’ve done with other titles in the series.
    The Bad: Visibility can be a problem when the screen gets crammed. Two-player entertainment isn’t as fun as I expected. Not really enough content overall.
    The Ugly: ‘Well, it’s fun but it could’ve been more robust.’”

    http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-reviews/540.html

  244. Roca.:

    one site against dozens of other praising the game and giving it great score

    destructoid – 9/0
    “The entirety of the final sector, which can only be unlocked via Normal Mode, is one of the most memorable moments of gaming this year. Much like Rez, SideScroller saves the best for last with this epic, mind-bending stage. I’ve never seen graphical glitches so creatively used for tension and visual effect like this before. It’s a brilliant moment when the game’s aesthetic and gameplay come together to make something incredible. I just wish the entire game could have been on this level.”

    http://www.destructoid.com/review-pixeljunk-sidescroller-214774.phtml

  245. Roca.:

    Gameradar – 8/10
    destructoid – 9/0
    Gamepro – 91/100
    IGXPRO – 8/10
    Kotaku: Buy? YES
    Ars Technica: Buy

    seems like IGN’s credibility is at the same level as PSExtreme..

  246. CarlB:

    I thought you said the review score wasn’t the issue?

    It seems like IGN and PSXE confirm each other’s review for the exact same reasons, and they just happen to be the only ones that mention the game’s length.

  247. Roca.:

    well, the review was score was an issue for the developer…to me, it seems that the issue was that the reviewer cut corners rushing through the game on casual – the developer didn’t say anything about the review score.

    The length of the game could be short just like 90% of all current games (COD, Gears, Halo, GOW, Limbo, Rez, etc) that still doesn’t justify a low score – a game could be short (ICO) and be a gem at the same time.

    Seems to me that IGN just wanted to give it a low score and used the game’s length as an excuse even though this is a great game (based on other reviews). IGN didn’t complain about how short Child of Eden is, they also gave it a 8.5.

    Are you putting IGN review and score above all others, even when most of them are praising the game and giving great review score.

    Even, destructoid managed to play the last hidden stage by finishing the game on “normal”. The IGN review failed to do so and he didn’t even notice/mention the last stage (because he rushed through on casual and got cought)

    Destructoid – “The entirety of the final sector, which can only be unlocked via Normal Mode, is one of the most memorable moments of gaming this year. Much like Rez, SideScroller saves the best for last with this epic, mind-bending stage”

  248. CarlB:

    “one site against dozens of other praising the game and giving it great score”

    More like two sites against six so far, and even two of those six don’t have really high scores.

    The full retail games you mentioned play up to 10 hours or more, the downloadables all lasted more than an hour, so even they were longer.

    “IGN didn’t complain about how short Child of Eden is”

    Really?

    “My biggest complaint about the journey is that it’s over way before you want it to be; I beat Child of Eden in a few hours.”
    http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/117/1176177p2.html

    Some reviewers are going to decrease their score if the game provides only a short length (especially under an hour for $10 in 2011) of unique content, some aren’t, and haven’t. I agree with the former, but understand the latter.

    “Are you putting IGN review and score above all others”

    No. First of all I’m realizing Daemon Hatfield is not IGN, he is a single reviewer with his own tastes. Second of all, I understand why he scored it 6.5, which is “Okay”, because he mentioned why in his review:

    1. Not as good as previous games in the series.
    2. Minutes instead of hours for a single normal playthrough.
    3. For $10 in 2011, it isn’t as good as similar games for the price such as PacMan Championship Edition DX.
    4. You lose all your power ups at the start of each level.
    5. Indefinite amount of time to respawn in local co-op.

    He also had praise for the game in saying the music and art were “stellar”, while the gameplay was competent and similar to R-Type, LifeForce, and Gradius.

    Do I put his review above all others? No.
    Do I look to see if he has valid, specific criticisms that are confirmed by at least one other review? Yes.

    “he didn’t even notice/mention the last stage”

    Really?

    “There are but three stages made up of four short levels each and then a ‘last stage’ end boss encounter.”

    This part is even included in the post on NeoGaf, but as usual, everyone ignores it because they are only seeing everything that pisses them off, i.e. actual criticisms in a review, heaven forbid.

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