Kaz: No PS4 at E3, 10-year life cycle intact
There will be no PS4 unveiled at E3 2012. Either that or the head honcho at SCE is a liar.
As already discussed in an earlier article, there has been intense speculation of late that both the Xbox 360 and the PS4 will be announced at this year’s E3. Sony has now denied this outright while talking to reporters at CES 2012.
Sony Computer Entertainment President Andrew House started the ball rolling by declaring:
I don’t think we’re contemplating talking about anything to do with future console iterations at this point.
To which Hirai added:
Andy is absolutely right in that we are not making any announcements at E3. I’ve always said a 10-year life cycle for PS3, and there is no reason to go away from that.
The 10-year life cycle shouldn’t be taken too literally. The PS3 was released late in 2006, so it’s just over five years old. If the proposed 10-year life cycle meant there would be no sign of new hardware in that time then the PS3 would only be just over halfway through its time as Sony’s premium piece of gaming kit. And that’s clearly BS. Big, fat, smelly BS.
The PS3 is doing fine. It’s still a great machine which can handle almost everything thrown at it. But in five years time? No chance. The 10-year life cycle should rightly be taken to mean that’s how long Sony expects to be selling new stock of the PS3 for. But as with the PS2, which has been repackaged and continues to be sold to this day, that doesn’t preclude the release of a successor.
I accept Kaz Hirai’s vow that there will be no sign of the PS4 at E3 2012. What other choice do we have? And it would be very bad PR to lie in this way if the company actually had other plans. But will it wait until 2016 to reveal the PS4? No freakin’ way. And what of Microsoft? Which, as is its custom, has refused to comment on this speculation.
I maintain we’ll get the first glimpses of new hardware from at least one of the big two next year, with the actual releases coming a year later in 2014.
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January 11th, 2012
Fuck 10 years. Im ready for new hardware this fall.
January 12th, 2012
Sony isn’t ready to unleash the PS4 yet because they are still working out the bugs on a new type of coontroller. This new controller you insert into your rectum and, using your sphincter muscle, you can control action onscreen. This new controller, dubbed “bowel control”, has been appearently been in the works for awhile now. A Sony rep who wished to remain annonymous stated “the R&D guys came up with the idea when they realized how much sony fanboys loved to bend over and take it in the ass for sony”.
January 12th, 2012
^ Made me LOL,
January 12th, 2012
Funny how even though the psthwee is soooo good but the sony fan girls still want a a psphwoar.
Oh well at least for the next 5 years you can have the same experience as us Wii users. Playing outdated hardware. Ha ha ha.
And sony are spending lot of time perfecting the new controller. Its going to be an evolution of the dual shock thwee thing that comes with the psthwee. Its going to be the exactly the same but called the dual shock phwoar. Thats evolution for ya! Same controller for 4 generations.
January 12th, 2012
Actually just looking at this article again its a shame that the title isn’t just ‘No ps4′.
January 12th, 2012
Do need to fix what’s not broken.
January 12th, 2012
It should be “anything to do with future consoles iterations at this point because we are focusing on the Vita launch this year and maximizing Ps3 profits.”
January 12th, 2012
“It should be “anything to do with future consoles iterations at this point because we are focusing on the Vita launch this year and maximizing Ps3 profits.””
Very True.
I also think MS may push their new console back a year if Kinect keeps on moving so many consoles during the Holidays.
January 12th, 2012
“Oh well at least for the next 5 years you can have the same experience as us Wii users. Playing outdated hardware. Ha ha ha.”
With the Wii U it doesn’t look like much is going to change in that aspect. Enjoy.
January 12th, 2012
Ncaissie,
You don’t need another system yet. Ps3 is plenty powerful enough. Sony is not going to wait ten years to release a a successor to Ps3. They have to stay competitive with Microsoft. Besides, you haven’t finished playing the massive truckload of Ps3 games that you purchased yet.
January 12th, 2012
I think anyone with a brain realizes that the 10 year PS3 cycle has nothing to do with the release of new hardware.
In fact this topic probably should have ended with this post.
“It should be “anything to do with future consoles iterations at this point because we are focusing on the Vita launch this year and maximizing Ps3 profits.”
January 12th, 2012
No need to rush PS4. I’d rather wait a little longer, instead of only having a marginal jump in technology. When I see a PS4 game in action for the first time, I want to be blown away.
Wii-U is going to be on par with PS3, and 360. So there’s no rush there.
I’m sure M$ will be more than happy to coast by on shitty Kinect mini games for another few years.
There’s really almost no way the PS4 won’t be the best console next gen.
January 12th, 2012
“I think anyone with a brain realizes that the 10 year PS3 cycle has nothing to do with the release of new hardware.”
Very true – both the PS1 and the PS2 had a 10+ year life cycle even though the PS2 and PS3 were introduced 4-6 afters into their [PS1/PS2] life cycles.
Xbox 360 life cycle ended in 2010, that’s when Kinect took over and that is what the Xbots will get for the rest of this gen…enjoy
January 12th, 2012
Phranctoast,
It’s quite obvious I was having fun with Ncaissie because of his statement. Jeez…
January 12th, 2012
Roca
“Xbox 360 life cycle ended in 2010, that’s when Kinect took over and that is what the Xbots will get for the rest of this gen…enjoy”
You’re so full of shit.
360 is still producing better performing multiplatform games than the PS3
Best sim racer ever Forza 4
AAA titles such a Halo, Gears, Fable, as well as a load of high end arcade games.
why don’t you give up with the fanboy BS
January 12th, 2012
PS
If MS launch there next console a year in front of Sony. Sony will have lost yet another huge percentage of there once upon a time strangle hold on the adult gaming market.
I think we will see the nex xbox on sale for Christmas 2013, if Sony PS4 isn’t there on the shelf next to it then Sony are screwed
January 12th, 2012
Godless,
I am expecting the next Xbox to launch around 2013 as well. As you stated, Sony really needs to have their next system out around the same time that Microsoft does. It wouldn’t be smart for Sony to give Microsoft another year head start in the next generation. I think Sony has to get their system out no later then six months after the next Xbox360 hits.
January 12th, 2012
Lol fakhin
good joke, was funny, replace sony and ps3 with ms and 360 though and you gey the truth…which turns out is not as funny…
Want hdmi? Buy new sku
Want buily in wifi? Buy a new sku
Want hd 1080p video? Buy the addon…oh wait hddvd died….
Want online gameplay? Pay $50…oh wait they raised it..$60
Want access to Netflix, Hulu etc…Pay for Gold…
Want AAA Kinect games? Buy a kinect…
Want AAA caliber core games covering a variety of genres, winning graphical awards, setting graphical and gameplay standards in their respective genres…oh wait, get a ps3…
No, it seems the ones taking it up the ass are the 360/MS fanboys, which are Balmers fav…
January 12th, 2012
“360 is still producing better performing multiplatform games than the PS3″
Keep tell yourself that…it kind of sucks that the PS3 360 game (based on awards) Arkham city is also available on PS3 and has a higher score too
and multiplatform games cancel each other out and as you agreed before – the difference between mutliplatform games are unnoticable and it doesn’t affect your gaming experience
you later backed this up with a link proving that “better” you mean: “the differences tend to be minute and have absolutely no effect on gameplay and the best-looking PS3 exclusives look better than the best-looking 360 exclusives”
Godless – “Best sim racer ever Forza”
Ever??? based on sales or review score LMAO…Good luck trying to back up that “best sim EVER”
Fable stopped being relevant and is no longer an AAA game – last one had low review scores and even its creator was ashamed of it and agreed of its lack of quality…and the next Fable game is just another shovelware title to add to the Kinect pile
Gears – was left unnoticed by critics this year – no awards whatsoever
Halo – Lost its developer (bungie) and now its fate is hanging by a thin thread. 343 Studios track record is not that good either as its Halo remake did not live to the hype and it tanked review wise
January 12th, 2012
“Want AAA Kinect games?”
That’s a double negative
January 12th, 2012
@jojo
“Want AAA caliber core games covering a variety of genres, winning graphical awards, setting graphical and gameplay standards in their respective genres…oh wait, get a ps3…”
LMAOOO
January 12th, 2012
“Want AAA Kinect games?”
this should go like..
-”want AAA motion games?” Buy a Wii or a PS3
-”want motion shovelwares?” it’ll cost $150 for Kinect…which at this point is better of buying a Wii for the same price (bundle with quality games) or a PS3 for a few bucks more.
January 12th, 2012
At least with the Wii you get better exclusives:
Zelda TP
Zelda SS
Super Smash Bros
Mario Kart
Wait thats already as many exclusives as the 360 but Ninty has more:
Metroid
Pikmin
Donkey Kong
Kirby
Thats more AAA gaming than the 360…
January 12th, 2012
“It’s quite obvious I was having fun with Ncaissie because of his statement. Jeez…”
And I thought it was quite obvious that I agreed with what you said enough to state that it was so good, no other posts need to exist. jeez
January 12th, 2012
LMAO @ Nintendo games list.
January 12th, 2012
Godless
Whats MS answer to Zelda
Or kirby, mario kart or super smash….
Sony has modnation, ratchet, uc, jak, and lbp….
LMAO at godless thinking MS can compete against Sonys and Nintendos 1st party lineups ….watch as he brings up sales amd NOT games…
January 12th, 2012
Fable Vs Zelda
Wouldn’t play any of the others so I don’t give a toss, that MS hasn’t bothered to do an equivalent exclusive, why the hell would they when there are hundreds of better third party games out there?
not interested in Sonys nintendo ripp-off efforts either. Check my games list for proof.
PS got infamous 2 today for £7. .bargain. .maybe
January 12th, 2012
I won’t bother bringing up sales, as we all know MS exclusives sales total thrashes the PS3 sales total. .There’s nothing to discuss
January 12th, 2012
MS bundles their games to bring up their numbers. (Kinect Adventures anyone) There really isn’t anything to discuss.
January 12th, 2012
“why the hell would they when there are hundreds of better third party games out there?”
only on 360.
Zelda vs Fable lmao are you kidding
maybe Fable vs Animal Crossing lol
January 12th, 2012
“MS exclusives sales total thrashes the PS3 sales total”
if this was true MS wouldn’t be so far behind Sony as a Publisher. I belive only Nintendo, EA and Activision (maybe Ubisoft too) are ahead of Sony..
Either way Sony is in the top 5 publisher while Microsoft is nowhere to be seen
January 12th, 2012
fact: Nintendo > M$
January 12th, 2012
Godless
” Fable Vs Zelda”
Really? Wow…but ill try and give ya this one LMFAO
“Wouldn’t play any of the others so I don’t give a toss, that MS hasn’t bothered to do an equivalent exclusive, why the hell would they when there are hundreds of better third party games out there?”
Wow….so your a are an xbitch in disguise as a ps3 lover….you just stated you dontngive a toss about games….
Third party games better than:
Mario Kart? Zero
Zelda? Zero
Kirby? Zero
God of War? Zero
WipeoutHD? Wipeout IS futuristic racinf, zero
Twisted Metal? Zero
“not interested in Sonys nintendo ripp-off efforts either. Check my games list for proof.”
Like i said, your tasts in games are subjective but the cool thing about your tasts is, in the greater good of gaming, your tastes are shit….Nintendo ripoffs? Really? God of War ripped off what game? Gran Turismo INVENTED the racing sim genre….and continues to be the king if it…..Wipeout is the futuristic racing genre…Jak and Ratchet are viable action platformers
PS got infamous 2 today for £7. .bargain. .maybE”
Godless you talk a lot of shit for primarily gaming on the ps3 your worse than HH at least he stood by his decisions….
Its all good though, i will no longer consider you a gamer, since you just stated you dont care about games, just junk or the same 4 franchises a year lmao…another MS mouth to face fuck is what your comments have made you into man…
Its funny, by defending the criticism of the 360s lack of exclusive games, your showing how little about games you really care about….multiplatform games better on 360? SOME are, some are better on ps3, youve already admitted the ps3 has the better exclusives so all your bitching and back tracking just goes to show how much of a MS fanbitch you are, all the while gaming it up on ps3…it must hurt your MS spirit wishing to play GAMES on your 360, nit Kinect crap for your kids, but instead boot up the ps3….the hypocrisy and irony that is Godless lmao
January 12th, 2012
Once again Sony is making tard decisions that will ruin their next video game console. I guess they never learn…psn hacking…no rumble support in original sixaxis controllers…no console selling games…a lackluster online service…limited ram…taking away other os…a very SLOW xmb…limited xmb support for ps3 games…
The nightmare continues…:-D
January 12th, 2012
Not that anyone cares what I have to say, but we can do human faces now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzeYnPGMlh8
We can even do real-time path tracing:
youtube.com/watch?v=Dh9uWYaiP3s
So why wait? I’m dying to see what the next next-gen can do.
January 12th, 2012
I did watch the other video you posted, but I guess I don’t understand enough about path tracing to be impressed…. I did read a little bit about it, so I get what a big deal the real time aspect is.
The facial animations in the second video look awesome though.
January 12th, 2012
@Barnabe Jones:
Thanks for looking. Sorry for posting that same tech demo a second time, just wanted to make sure someone saw it. I wasn’t going to post it again.
Wait, you’re not impressed, but you know it’s a ‘big deal’? I’m not sure how that works.
Well, having path tracing just means even the most unrealistic models will look real. I think this video can explain it best, if you care to see it:
This http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmzPWK6FVLo
January 12th, 2012
“Fable Vs Zelda”
Please, please, pleeeeeaaaassseee tell me this was just a joke! I seriously hope you were not saying that Fable is in the same league as Zelda? You zero credibility has gone into the minus now.
*slow clap*
January 13th, 2012
“kaz-no-ps4-at-e3-10-year-life-cycle-intact”
In other words, sales aren’t slow enough to announce the PS4. Ninty had to move on to WiiU in order to survive as Wii sales were slumping. 360 and PS3 are doing fine, but guaranteed it will be M$ who makes the next announcement for 740/Nextbox. Now that 360 sales are slower than PS3, it would make perfect sense for them to announce at this E3 and release it in time for the holidays later this year.
Not only would this give them another year head start on PS4, but they could also seriously undermine Wii U sales because it’s performance would theoretically blow it out of the water. Add to that Kinext’s capabilities which would trump Wii U’s new controller. Their only major obstacle would be the stink of RRoD from the beginning of this gen, but they don’t have a choice but to move on.
Even though M$ would have an advantage of another head start, Sony would still have the advantage of a year’s time to increase specs significantly above that of the 740, which would theoretically give them the same lead in sales later in PS4′s lifetime.
In summary, M$ would risk this yet again because they are already trailing behind PS3 in current sales (it’s only a matter of time before total sales) and because they wish to compete with Ninty as much as possible early on.
January 13th, 2012
jojo
I play both consoles, I have no idea what your post was about.
The games listed in the post I replied to are not games I would play, If they are the best the wii has to offer then I’m not interested, I just don’t like the games Nintendo has to offer, I never really have done.
Remember the odds are I’m 20 + years older than you are.
As for PS3, I play my PS3 more than my xbox, how does this in any way equate to me not liking the PS3?
My points on here are almost always in defence of the 360, against PS3 fanboy BS.
Unlike the fanboys on this site that continually bleat about being multi console owners, I actually play both platforms.
I agree that the PS3 has some games that the 360 has nothing to counter, but it is literally a handful, are you guys forgetting about Forza, Gears not to mention many multiplats that look better than most of the PS3 exclusives.
you want a summary of my opinions, and why I have and use both machines
PS3
Pros
Free online gaming & apps (see cons)
Best selection of exclusives, many of which are worth getting.
Has blu ray
plays some multiplats better than 360
Cons
Online has been a letdown
most of the apps are crash happy, and I really don’t even try them anymore
360
Pros
online gaming is solid/see cons
Some great exclusives not many new, but back cat is very much worth it.
family gaming entertainment better than any other consoles.
Plays many multiplats better than PS3
apps work well
Controller
Cons
Live is not free & no online gaming or apps possible without it.
Poor exclusive line up for future
I would list reliability here too, if I’d ever had a problem, but because I waited over 2 years till the issue was resolved, I’ve never had any problems with either of my 360s.
I even got the kids a wii, and we have about 20 games, the only ones that get played are guitar hero (by me)supper smash bro, and how to train your dragon (by kids)we have both mario galaxy games kirby (wich the kids did play for about a week) zelda, which I found to juvenile, and the kids just didn’t like, despite the fact the want to be allowed to play fable, and both like more complex RPG such as blue dragon lost odyssey
You guys are welcome to stick to being PS3 fanboys, I just stick with both machines
I’m loving the fact that the PS3 fanboys are so bitter about sales figures, makes me laugh every time you winge about it.
Face it, 6 years after launch, the 360 still has higher total WW sales figure than the PS3, and it looks very likely that it may have sold more this year opening its lead to almost 4 million.
that really pains the fanboys LMFAO
go winge about the sales again
here are the sales for the launch week of the PS3
http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/39033/Global/
lol total sales of 360 @ 5,379,248. cap now around 4,000,000. Yeah another 5 years and the PS3 will catch up ROFL
January 13th, 2012
sales figures has been in our favor for 4/5 years idiot. you’re the one twisting the numbers and counting a year where the PS3 was not on the market.
That like saying a basketball player who scores 30 points in 40 mins is better than the player who scores 28 points in 30 mins…see the logic
if you really want to count sales from ’05/’06 (when the PS3 was not on the market) then the only console Sony had on the market was the PS2 and guess what…the PS2 outsold the 360 during that timeframe as we..
so ’05/’06 goes goes to Sony (PS2) and 2007/2011 goes to PS3 — the 360 has NEVER been able to outsell Sony’s home console.
January 13th, 2012
Godless is not twisting any numbers. He stated that the Xbox360 leads the Ps3 in worldwide sales. The Xbox360 leads the Ps3 in worldwide sales so deal with it.
January 13th, 2012
Looking forward to both companies fiscal reports, at which time godless and twilight will be like roaches after a light goes on.
January 13th, 2012
the 360 leads in worldwide sales when you twist the numbers to favor the 360. is it fair to count 360 sales from 05/06 when the PS3 sold ZERO because it wasn’t on the market.
You’re into sports Twilight.
Who is scoring more and who’s a better Basketball player:
Player A: 10,000 total points in 6 years (1,667 points per year)
Player B: 9,500 total points in 5 years (1,900 points per year)
since one player have only play for 5 years, which player have scored more during the last 5 years?
player B will still have scored 9,500 vs Player A’s 8,333.
it’s common sense…we can also say the PS2 still leads the 360 and the original Xbox in total sales combined — that’s pretty fair based on your stupid logic.
when comparing 360 vs PS3, the sales figure should really be counted since the day the PS3 entered the market (’07) and since then the PS3 has actually outsold the 360 by ~8M units worldwide
January 13th, 2012
You beat me to it Twilight
Roca
“you’re the one twisting the numbers and counting a year where the PS3 was not on the market.”
Please explain.
I have stated that, at the launch of the PS3, the 360 had sold 5,379,248, that’s the head start.
Now 5 years on, and the cap is around 4 million, what the hell is it I’m twisting? other than your melon dude
those are the numbers. .As Twilight says. . “Deal with it”.
The PS3 has sold 1.4 million more consoles than the 360 over the last 5 years.
That’s around 300,000 a year. Holy shit, at this rate it’s going to take another 13 years for the PS3 to catch up
January 13th, 2012
Sorry just checked the figures on VG, the gap is nearer 3.5 million, so make that 2 million in 5 years
An extra 400,000 a year, and drop the catch up time to 9 years or so
Roca, the only one twisting things is you.
Who here ever disputed the PS2 was the top in total WW sales?
And the PS3 was launched in Nov 2006, just in time for the Christmas rush. the fact that the 630 outsold it for the first 6 months opening the gap a bit seams to be a fact you can’t accept.
phranc
“Looking forward to both companies fiscal reports, at which time godless and twilight will be like roaches after a light goes on.”
LOL. .We’ll see.
January 13th, 2012
Roca,
I know what point you are making. However, what good is it to have the best winning record in sports but you’re still losing the championships each year?
Phranctoast,
You know better then that. I’m no coward. I am not going anywhere. Besides, I have to stay around and mess with you. (Smile).
January 13th, 2012
“Lol. Well see”
Its held true for every year Godless….everytime OFFICIAL numbers release, 360 fanbitches are nowhere to be seen….
January 13th, 2012
@Godless
you seem to had a bad memory, last time you dispute this Phranc proved you wrong with data showing that the PS3 has outsold the 360 by ~8M units since it launched…
you keep bring up VGC numbers which only shows just how desperate you are…such a loser…
you just keep making a fool of yourself…have some dignity…
and I’m still waiting for you to face your previous stupid argument about Xbox 1080p upscaling and streaming > Bluray…
Too bad the 360 can’t even playback full HD content anymore (only via Zune but you have to put up with its washed out image quality lmao)
@Godless
“However, what good is it to have the best winning record in sports but you’re still losing the championships each year?”
LMAO you just proved my points. the PS3 has been winning in sales (championchips?) each year…thanks for clearing that up.
January 13th, 2012
@jojo
everytime…
that’s when HH disapeared for good – after claming & betting that the 360 will outsell the PS3 during the next couple of quarters because of the releases of the 360 Slim, 4GB Slim ($199), Halo Reach (its biggest game) and Kinect – after all was said and done the 360 still failed to outsell the PS3
no wonder you see Godless relying on VGC numbers instead of official data from Sony and MS
January 13th, 2012
Roca
“and I’m still waiting for you to face your previous stupid argument about Xbox 1080p upscaling and streaming > Bluray…”
WTF. .you are incapable not twisting things.
When did I say up-scaling was> blu ray, all I said was the the xbox still did up-scaling, and that it could display true 1080p from any streamed source, or download, if legitimate.
support for home brew Avi & mpeg has (for now) been downscaled to 720, though my guess is we could see this re-instated in the next revision of the OS
January 13th, 2012
Time to own the Xbots with some facts
Yearly Sales (or “Championchips” as Twilight put it)
2007 ==============
PS3 = 8.7M
360 = 7.3M
PS3 outsold the 360 by 1.4M units
2008 ==============
PS3 = 10.7M
360 = 10.8M
360 outsold the PS3 by 1K units
2009 ==============
PS3 = 12.4M
360 = 10.2M
PS3 outsold the 360 by 2.2M units
2010 ==============
PS3 = 14.4M
360 = 12.1M
PS3 outsold the 360 by 2.3M units
2011 ============== (Jan-Sept)
PS3 = 7.6
360 = 6.7
PS3 is currently outselling the 360 by 0.9M units
As you can see, the PS3 outsells the 360 by a couple of million units every year (Godless lied and claim it was around 300K lmao)
Doing the math you can see the PS3 has actually outsold the 360 by 6.7M units (or ~7M) since it came out and the actual 360 lead is 2.1M…down from 8.7
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=450635
January 13th, 2012
cue Godless trying to dispute these official numbers with data from VGC..
January 13th, 2012
Roca, something not right with those totals. (on the link)
Didn’t MS just announce 66 million xboxs sold?
January 13th, 2012
“Didn’t MS just announce 66 million xboxs sold?”
Neither Sony or MS announced their fiscal numbers for the Oct-Dec quarter.
We could put the 360 up to 66M and not adjust the PS3 numbers for you if it really makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside.
Since you guys like to count competitive sales between the two consoles prior to the other competitor coming to market I’m sure it’s something you would prefer.
January 13th, 2012
The link is based on the the last quarterly numbers – MS and Sony haven’t released the report for last quarter…that’s why Phranc said:
“Looking forward to both companies fiscal reports, at which time godless and twilight will be like roaches after a light goes on”
January 13th, 2012
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/331597/xbox-360-sales-top-66-million-kinect-18-million/
January 13th, 2012
Godless,
Microsoft have announced that they have sold over 66 million units. When all is said and done, the Xbox360 will still be leading Ps3 in overall worldwide sales.
January 13th, 2012
Twilight and Godless didn’t read Phranc last post lol
Phranc – “We could put the 360 up to 66M and not adjust the PS3 numbers for you if it really makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside.
Since you guys like to count competitive sales between the two consoles prior to the other competitor coming to market I’m sure it’s something you would prefer”
you guys are really grasping for straws and making a ffool out of yourselves
January 13th, 2012
Roca, You’re the one making a fool of yourself.
You are incapable of admitting the 360 has a higher WW total sales figure than the PS3
instead you try to change the subject to yearly sales. We all know the difference. but that is not what the subject was, until you tried to bend and twist things as usual.
It’s hilarious.
January 13th, 2012
“You are incapable of admitting the 360 has a higher WW total sales figure than the PS3″
Wait a second here. You know the last quarter sales for the PS3?
Also…Quite frankly, who gives a fuck about the difference in worldwide sales between the two? They didn’t come out at the same time remember…..?
It’s proven without a shadow of doubt that the PS3 has been more successful sales wise than the 360 in the console race. It’s a non debatable fact.
January 13th, 2012
“You are incapable of admitting the 360 has a higher WW total sales figure than the PS3″
You forget that the 360 was the first and only HD console on the market for an entire year, you also forget that when the PS3 came out it was a hell of a lot cheaper and was the better choice at the time because the PS3 had hardly any games worth mentioning, one other thing you forget is the RRoD fiasco which caused a lot of people to fork out on another console, I, myself have bought 3. But even though MS had that huge jump on Sony, the PS3 has came out and out sold the 360 every single year since (except ’08 when MS SLIGHTLY outsold the PS3).
If the 360 wasn’t in first place with all these advantages then there is something wrong with the world. But you can’t deny that every year the PS3 is always the more popular choice among people, according to sales.
January 13th, 2012
PS3 also wasn’t in Europe until March 2007.
January 13th, 2012
Godless
Which is twisting the truth..looking at worldwide sales, which NO ONE IS ARGUING the 360 has slightly more overall, but IS NOT an indicator AS TO WHCIH SYSTEM is selling better DUE TO THE FACT that the 360 has AN EXTRA YEARS worth of sales over the ps3….how is that a fair comparison…answer, its not.
In order to figure out which system is selling better, COMMON SENSE AND ANALYTICS use YEARLY sales….in which case the ps3 has trumped the 360 4/5 years it ACTUALLY HAS BEEN FOR SALE…..<—- you dumbfuks cant admit this is the simple truth….the PS3 sells more, and all the data backs it up…
Lets summarize…
NO ONE is disputing that the 360 leads in worldwide sales atm…<— why you keep bringing this up is beyond me…to save face? Cant save it as MS has pounded yer faces into submission…
Which system sells more? The answer, undisputedly is the PS3, all sales data confirm this to be true for 4/5 years the PS3 has been available for sale….period <— this is a simple fact the 360 retards refuse to admit….
So in reality Godless, YOU are the fan bitch…..Everyone here AGREES the 360 leads in worldwide sales due to its one year of uncompetitve sales….it was alone…
YOU 360 fanbitches cant admit the ps3 outsells the 360 yearly by millions of units minus one year where the 360 outsold it by what 100k units….
360 leads in WW sales because of its ine year advantage…
PS3 outsells the 360 on a yearly basis…
Those are the facts, but watch and see, only the xbitches will try and argue….
January 13th, 2012
That ownage was so complete I have to imagine godless is actually in physical pain from it. Reminds me of that South Park episode “You got F’ed in the A” with Randy twitching in bed after getting served.
January 13th, 2012
See Godless they admit now that Xbox360 leads Ps3 in worldwide sales. With that being said, the only thing I am still saying is that after all the fiscal reports come out Xbox360 will still be leading Ps3 in worldwide sales.
As Jojo and I always say, tastes in games are subjective. I mostly play multi-platform titles. However, as far as system exclusive titles go, I prefer Sony’s exclusive titles. As far as Xbox360 goes, I prefer Xbox360′s operation over Sony’s.
January 13th, 2012
@twilight
As of the end of last September, the 360 led by 2.1M consoles. The PS3 would have to outsell the 360 by 2.1M this quarter to break even for WW sales. We don’t know what the PS3 sold yet, but it’s likely not 10.5M consoles in one quarter which is what it would need to sell if MS did indeed push out 8.4M consoles last quarter (66M-57.6M)
8.4M consoles is indeed impressive. It beats Sony’s PS3 best 6.5M the year the Slim was released and the price dropped $100. Can’t deny the success of Kinect even if it’s hurting the core gamers.
The 3.9M Sony mentioned has been confirmed as sold from retailers to customers so Sell-through, and not sell-in (shipped).
Sony has stated they are right on track to ship 15M consoles for their fiscal year.
My opinion as to how it will all turn out after the numbers are all tallied up and the dust settles…..
MS will have added another Million consoles to their lead. So 2.1M to 3.1M. Bookmark this now
January 13th, 2012
“See Godless they admit now that Xbox360 leads Ps3 in worldwide sales.”
Link and quote of us denying this or are you lying? You still haven’t admitted the PS3 is outselling the 360 every year.
January 13th, 2012
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/playstationr3-retail-sales-exceed-38-million-units-worldwide-during-the-holiday-sales-season-80860367.html
This states that in 2009, the year the PS3 sold the most it’s ever sold between Oct-Dec (6.5M) Sony pushed 3.8M consoles during the holiday season.
This year they stated they pushed 3.9M consoles this holiday season.
So if everything remains consistence, one can make the argument that the PS3 shipped 6.6M consoles last quarter.
We’ll know soon enough (before the end of this month)
January 13th, 2012
@Twilight
“they admit now that Xbox360 leads Ps3 in worldwide sales”
and you have admitted that what counts in championships and every year PS3 owns the 360 in sales.
Counting sales from 05/06 just shows your desperation…let alone that you Xbots no longer talk about “games”
Uncharted 3 just got nominated for 12 AIAS awards – Where is Gears 3, Halo and Fable?
January 13th, 2012
@phranc
/takes a bow, thank you, id like to thank god for the 360 fanboys inability to put upbany good arguements and for making speaking the the trutg absolutely easy….lol
Twilight
None of us has ever denied the 360 leading in WW sales…the arguement has always been which system sells better, in which the ps3 does…yearly..
WW sales isnt a good indicator DUE TO THE FACT the 360 has ONE YEARS worth of data over both the ps3 and wii…
Now if they all released at the same time and the numbers were the same…THEN you can say the 360 sells better…but thats not the case
January 13th, 2012
“Uncharted 3 just got nominated for 12 AIAS awards – Where is Gears 3, Halo and Fable?”
Batman-6 nominations
BF3-6 nominations
Skyrim-6 nominations
Portal 2-10 nominations
January 13th, 2012
Uncharted 3 got as many nominations as Batman and Skyrim combined – WOW
Gears 3 – got overlooked by the critics once again, even LBP & Infamous 2 got more nominations then Gears 3.
January 13th, 2012
Oldie,
I was mostly referring to Roca. You admitted this awhile back.
As far as Ps3 sales go, I never said that the Ps3 wasn’t selling.
Roca,
Ps3 games have won championships.
Phranctoast,
These games didn’t get nominated because they are a step behind the top notch games.
January 13th, 2012
At the start of this generation I fully expected the PS3 to destroy the 360 in sales. I would have thought that the PS3 would have had 2x or 3x the install base of the 360 by now.
It seemed to have all the ingredients that made the PS2 great. Blu Ray player, massive third party exclusive support, consoles selling game franchises. What about the 120m loyal PS2 users that were just waiting to switch to the PS3? That argument used to be posted around a lot but not so much any more.
I honestly didn’t think fanboys like Roca would have to go to yearly sales data and chop off the first year of 360 sales just to get a slim victory (maybe). I though it would be “360 has sold 40m and PS3 has sold 120m, cop that xbitches!”.
Sales of the PSP and PS3 have shown everybody that Sony’s time as the dominant games company are over. They’re still in the race but it’s a real three horse race now.
January 13th, 2012
Sales of the PSP is ~80M strong, a much bigger install based than the 360 and original Xbox…in fact the PSP has been the only other successful portable device not made by Nintendo.
and yearly numbers shows which console is selling better without any unfair advantage (a year worth of sales) – it does show that ht PS3 has outsold the 360 by ~7M since it came out.
January 13th, 2012
“Sales of the PSP is ~80M strong”
Lmao! You just know “me” just facepalmed himself for not looking this up first.
I had no idea the PSP sold so much, pretty surprised by this.
January 13th, 2012
A years worth of sales (the first year when they don’t sell much) shouldn’t make much difference. It wouldn’t have made any difference in the PS2 era.
I just find it funny how you have to tie yourself in knots with the sales figures. All it tells me is that this generation is very different form the last.
“Sales of the PSP is ~80M strong, a much bigger install based than the 360″
Wasn’t the PSP released before the 360? You were just complaining about when people do that with the 360 and PS3. You make me laugh some times Roca.
“PSP has been the only other successful portable device not made by Nintendo”
Number two in a two horse race. Fantastic.
January 13th, 2012
“Wasn’t the PSP released before the 360? You were just complaining about when people do that with the 360 and PS3. You make me laugh some times Roca.”
I was actually gonna write “I bet me complains that the PSP was released before the 360″ but I thought if I write that then he won’t lmfao so predictable. So what you saying me, those sales before the 360 do count or don’t? I don’t think it counts, I go by yearly sales when both are available, not entire lifetime if one had a head start.
January 13th, 2012
Well I don’t want to be too predictable
What I think is that comparing the PSP to the 360 is a little stupid, compare it to the DS. And even if you do compare them 66m to <80m is much of a muchness. I'd say they are fairly even.
"So what you saying me, those sales before the 360 do count or don’t?"
They probably do count but the numbers are so small it doesn't really matter. What is the difference between the PS3 and 360? I don't think it's that large for anybody to get too excited about.
January 13th, 2012
“Lmao! You just know “me” just facepalmed himself for not looking this up first. ”
LOL, reminds me of when you got so excited when I said Skyrim had better graphics than Uncharted.
Look up the sales for DS. Did you honestly think I didn’t know the sales figures for the PSP????
January 13th, 2012
Just tried the FFXIII-2 demo and it’s fucking shit. The graphics are worse than XIII, there’s no FMVs, the voice acting is horrendous, the character Mog is bugging me.
I used to be the biggest FF fan going, back when FF was great, from VI to X FF was the greatest RPG, full stop. XII to a lesser extent was good but not X good. XIII is a disgrace and this one seems just as bad.
Depending on how Versus turns out I may go off FF all together, which would be a shame. I miss how they used to be: great story, great graphics, great FMVs, great twists, great combat, great villians and heroes, the traversable world map, airships, boats, exploration, mini games, the list goes on.
Catering to the LCD has seriously ruined FF.
January 13th, 2012
“Did you honestly think I didn’t know the sales figures for the PSP????”
You kinda proved you didn’t when you said the sales of the PSP has shown everybody that Sonys …blah, blah, blah.
“reminds me of when you got so excited when I said Skyrim had better graphics than Uncharted”
Yeah, good old days, it was a retarded claim. Have you seen the recent awards UC3 has been nominated for? One of them is graphics, I don’t think Skyrim got that nod. Point proven.
January 13th, 2012
If you’d played Skyrim on a PC you’d know but you haven’t. You don’t know what good graphics are and that’s the problem.
“Sales of the PSP and PS3 have shown everybody that Sony’s time as the dominant games company are over”
That is a completely valid statement. I don’t know how long you have been into video games but I remember when the PS2 was at the hight of its powers and Sony were going to crush Nintendo in the hand held market. At the time Nintendo had the Game Cube and it seemed believable.
Not only did Nintendo spank Sony in the hand held market they spanked them in the home console market too.
It’s obvious now that Sony isn’t the dominant player in the games market (DS>2xPSP && Wii>PS3). It’s just silly that you try to argue otherwise.
January 14th, 2012
after all is said and done the PSP is the only succesfull portable gaming device not made by Nintendo, all other have failed….and the PS3 has outsold the 360 every year, in fact it has outsold the 360 by ~7M since it came out..
I was not comparing the PSP sales against the 360′s – I was just pointing out that if you guys think the 360 has been sucessful with its 66M units – then the PSP has been just as sucessful with its ~80M units sold worldwide.
and Sony was never the dominant player in the portable gaming market (so stop saying that, you’re looking like an idiot), they just happen to be the ONLY sucessful company besides Nintendo – great achievement.
Sony might not be the dominant player in the home console market, but neither is MS…in fact MS has yet to be able to outsell a Sony made console in a single year.
when the PS3 was not out, during 05/06 the PS2 outsold the 360 and the only year the 360 outsold the PS3 (by 100K) the PS2 outsold the 360 as well.
-current market leader – Ninetndo
-Sony was the market leader the last two previos generations
-Nintendo was the market leader during the two generations prior to PS1.
So where does that leave Microsoft….oh yeah
It’s obvious now that Microsoft isn’t and has NEVER BEEN the dominant player in the games market
January 14th, 2012
“It’s obvious now that Microsoft isn’t and has NEVER BEEN the dominant player in the games market”
Yes I agree Roca, but they are a player none the less! If it were not for Microsoft, you likely would not be playing the quality on the PS3 in which you are today! If nobody went against Sony, they would not even have to try, thus putting out tons of crap! You want Microsoft to be a player next gen if you want amazing content for PS4!
As for the post topic, yeah I’m not seeing PS4 until October-November 2014. That is my bet, you can quote me on that!
I think it foolish of Sony to launch in 2014 if Microsoft launches in 2013. I think Sony has their minds on that time period, Microsoft can possible change that. Sony needs to put their system out before or very shorty after Microsoft IMO to take the lions share of the market. It’s getting exciting though because you know they already have these systems well in the works. 
January 14th, 2012
Would love to know the specs of the new systems! Please be generous with the RAM!!!!
January 14th, 2012
I’m thinking 2GB for CPU and 2GB for GPU minimum!
January 14th, 2012
Ok Roca here are some mistakes you just made;
“I was just pointing out that if you guys think the 360 has been successful with its 66M units – then the PSP has been just as successful with its ~80M units sold worldwide.”
Why do you say ~80m when your own link said 73m. Do you have any other data to back up your claims or are you inflating the PSP figure? You used the exact figure for 360 so don’t say you were rounding up.
“and Sony was never the dominant player in the portable gaming market (so stop saying that, you’re looking like an idiot)”
I never said that. I said dominate game company not “dominant player in the portable gaming market”. It’s written just above your comment so I don’t even have to provide a link to prove you wrong on that one.
You’re making it too easy Roca.
January 14th, 2012
“That is a completely valid statement. I don’t know how long you have been into video games”
Since before the Atari, kid.
“If you’d played Skyrim on a PC you’d know but you haven’t. You don’t know what good graphics are and that’s the problem.”
Show me the nominations of Skyrim getting Best graphics over UC3. If not then you’re wrong. So in other words: link? What you’re saying is opinion only, it’s now looking like fact that UC3 has the best graphics this year …that will make it the 5th PS3 exclusive in a row. You don’t know what good graphics are, you don’t own a PS3.
January 14th, 2012
“when the PS3 was not out, during 05/06 the PS2 outsold the 360 and the only year the 360 outsold the PS3 (by 100K) the PS2 outsold the 360 as well.”
Pmsl I never knew this!
January 14th, 2012
@Me
“Why do you say ~80m when your own link said 73m”
because you keep saying 66M for the 360 even though we have yet to see MS’ official number from last quarter….just like we haven’t seen the PSP’s official number for last quarter as well. 73M is the unit sold as of Sept 2011, Oct – Dec number haven’t been release for either console (that’s why I said ~80M) so without those official data, the last official numbers are:
360: 57M
PSP: 73M
who made the mistake now…such a blind fanboy lmao
you’re making too easy dude…
@oldschool
LOL, sad but truth..Me just can’t argue against facts.
January 14th, 2012
Wow, is that all you guys discuss here? Sales this, sales that, give it a FUCKING REST ALREADY!
January 14th, 2012
Agree with Kushy here. It’s the xbots, all they have is sales. No games and an expensive online experience.
January 14th, 2012
^
Lol, yeah I’m going to buy a modded Xbox off my buddy today for $50.00. He asked me what games I wanted. I was like Gears 3, Batman AC,Fable 3 and um……………………..yeah!
January 14th, 2012
I think $50.00 to play and enjoy those 3 games is fair. The machiine is going to eat dust after that, even with being able to get games for next to nothing!
January 14th, 2012
Well, if anyone cares, I have a video of a real PS4 game engine I just found:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2eohnOYgms
youtube.com/watch?v=xe0RoDDzR-o
January 14th, 2012
^
lol, ok buddy!
January 14th, 2012
PS4 game engine lmao
@Kushy
$50 for 2.5 games (the other half of Gears 3 requires $60 for XBL) is not that bad.
January 14th, 2012
Hey, it’s a real video of the Luminous Engine:
http://kotaku.com/luminous-engine/
So don’t blame me if it doesn’t look that super great.
Besides, I’m getting sick of you guys going on and on about the same damn console sales over and over again!
January 14th, 2012
“LOL, sad but truth..Me just can’t argue against facts.”
You just made up the 80m figure Roca, that’s not a fact. It’s not based on anything other than what you think the PSP sales could be. It’s speculation which is the opposite of a fact. It’s scary (and a little funny) that you don’t know the difference between speculation and fact.
I can’t believe you give shit to people using VGChartz because it’s not official and then you make up 7m in sales.
Somebody who will make up figures has no credibility when discussing sales data. Just like you have no credibility talking about graphics after you said you can’t tell the difference between a Pixar movie and R&C.
“Show me the nominations of Skyrim getting Best graphics over UC3. If not then you’re wrong. So in other words: link?”
So do YOU think that Uncharted 3 on PS3 has better graphics than Skyrim on PC? Stop being such a pussy and make a statement for yourself instead of just regurgitating what reviewers say. If you’re not willing to make a statement for yourself I don’t see why I should argue the point.
Link,link,link that’s all you can say. Can’t think things through himself and always needs somebody to tell him what to do.
January 14th, 2012
So the professionally nominated awards are wrong and you are right? Pmsl that’s arrogance haha.
Uncharted 3 is a much more polished game with better game mechanics, set pieces and animations. Are you saying people’s animations in Skyrim trump the animations of Uncharted 3? I like how when you have no more defense for the 360 you start with the PS3 vs PC argument pmfsl!
I see you’re calling me a pussy, wow you must be so hard doing that whilst cowering behind your computer. Pathetic fucking child.
I’m still waiting for links from you proving that Skyrim has better graphics. A list of awards is the best way to prove this lol.
“instead of just regurgitating what reviewers say”
Can say the same to you about regurgitating sales, sales, sales pmsl. I can see why you don’t like going by reviews, they never go in the 360s favour over PS3 exclusives …fact. Soon you’ll stop replying on sales once it sinks in the PS3 has outsold the 360 every year since its release (except ’08)…fact.
January 14th, 2012
@me
“You just made up the 80m figure Roca, that’s not a fact. It’s not based on anything other than what you think the PSP sales could be”
not it’s not fact, thats why I CLEARLY said ~80M — the “~” means is an estimate and the figures could be close to 80M… It was NEVER meant to be taken as a “fact” you were the only IDIOT who did and didn’t pay enough attention to notice the difference..You’re now grasping for straw, such a blind fanboy.
the 66M for the 360 was also MS’ estimate (not a fact) – the last official figures for the 360 is 57M…the sad part about it is that you’re bitching as if using the latest official numbers is going to make a difference…as I already stated, here are the lasted official numbers (FACTS, not an estimate…big difference)
360: 57M
PSP: 73M
and the VGC numbers have been thrown around as facts, not as estimate.
Keep making stupid mistakes, you make things too easy for me.
Uncharted 3 is a ‘graphically more impressive’ game than Skyrim…that’s a FACT backed up by many awards nominations, etc
and R&C still offers a pixar experience whether you like it or not.
The only one who doesn’t have any credibility here is you.
January 14th, 2012
Here are a few facts you cleverly decided you ignore:
when the PS3 was not out, during 05/06 the PS2 outsold the 360 and the only year the 360 outsold the PS3 (by 100K) the PS2 outsold the 360 as well.
-current market leader – Ninetndo
-Sony was the market leader the last two previos generations
-Nintendo was the market leader during the two generations prior to PS1.
So where does that leave Microsoft….oh yeah
It’s obvious now that Microsoft isn’t and has NEVER BEEN the dominant player in the games market
January 14th, 2012
“you were the only IDIOT who did and didn’t pay enough attention to notice the difference”
I did actually. That’s why I said <80m in the first post that I quoted your number. I assumed you'd inflated the numbers. When I actually bothered to read your link I wasn't terribly surprised.
So you think your estimates are just as valid as Microsoft’s now. Deluded fanboy. How do you think you can argue a case like that when all you have on your side is your own made up numbers?
"I see you’re calling me a pussy, wow you must be so hard doing that whilst cowering behind your computer. Pathetic fucking child. "
Yeah, yeah lets meet up and fight over it. Fanboy rage. I'm happy to state my position that Skyrim on PC has better graphics than Uncharted 3 on PS3. Why can't you do the same? Come on tough guy, take a position.
January 14th, 2012
Your words Roca
“I able to tell Uncharted is a game while it’s hard to tell whether R&C is a game or a pixar movie.”
http://gamer.blorge.com/2011/09/25/evidence-rage-for-ps3-already-using-super-texture-pack/
What an idiot.
January 15th, 2012
@me
“”I did actually”
then why are you bitching about it…this makes you a bigger idiot…no surprise there
@me
here, have fun with this -
Kotaku – “Take anything from Dreamworks or Pixar, and compare them and you will find that ToD is a visual feast that rivals them”
GameDaily – “The whole thing comes off like something Pixar would produce if it chose to add game development to their filmaking”
Play UK – “For one level, Tools of Destruction is the exciting, Pixar-esque platform brilliance that we anticipated from those early screens”
POMUK – “An experience that’s less like playing a game and more like setting up residence in the best Pixar movie you can imagine”
MTV – “The hook is the image, the approaching-Pixar graphical quality”
1UP – “the closest thing to a Pixar movie in video games”
IGN – “some of the cutscenes border on Pixar quality and the in-game action is no slouch either”
PSU – “Pixar-like graphics in real time”
Eurogamer – “Just like the previous game, ACIT is almost as pretty as a Pixar”
robinchung – “Ratchet & Clank looks absolutely stunning; it’s like an interactive Pixar movie”
Christian-gaming – “They basically are a Disney/Pixar movie you control”
Destructoid – “To say Insomniac could hold its weight against animated fun-for-all-ages heavy hitters like Pixar and Disney wouldn’t be much of a stretch.”
USA Today – “The first game to truly deliver the long-sought ‘You’re playing a Pixar movie’ experience”
yes, who’s the idiot now….
January 15th, 2012
Am I the only one who likes the Wii U?
I think it was Carl that said the next console by Microsoft will blow the Wii U out of the water (interesting choice of words there, methinks).
Well, that didn’t stop the Wii from outselling both PS3 and 360…
Not to belabor that point though, I think we as gamers should try out the Wii U. Looks bloody fun.
January 15th, 2012
So do you still believe that R&C is on par graphically with a Pixar movie? I’m asking because you seemed to back away from that comment with your “pixar experience”, whatever the hell that means, statements.
When you were playing R&C did you really think it looked just as good as Wall E? So good in fact that you couldn’t tell the difference?
January 15th, 2012
“Am I the only one who likes the Wii U “
Honestly I’m not convinced about holding such a massive controller. What I am convinced about is that if they release a new Pikmin, which may work really well with that kind of controller, the wife will make me buy one so its not going to make much difference.
January 15th, 2012
@me_
you look desperate now…trying to get to say something so you can take it out of context and try to give it a totally different meaning.
I was comparing U2 to R&C, not R&C to pixar movie when I said that (and I never used the word “on par”)…stop actin dumb for once, R&C still offers a pixar quality experience and my comparasion between U2 and R&C still stands – Uncharted looks like a game (not like real life characters) and R&C looks like a pixar movie (backed up by the many quotes below)
STOP HATING AND EAT THIS —
Kotaku – “Take anything from Dreamworks or Pixar, and compare them and you will find that ToD is a visual feast that rivals them”
GameDaily – “The whole thing comes off like something
Pixar would produce if it chose to add game development to their filmaking”
Play UK – “For one level, Tools of Destruction is the exciting, Pixar-esque platform brilliance that we anticipated from those early screens”
POMUK – “An experience that’s less like playing a game and more like setting up residence in the best Pixar movie you can imagine”
MTV – “The hook is the image, the approaching-Pixar graphical quality”
1UP – “the closest thing to a Pixar movie in video games”
IGN – “some of the cutscenes border on Pixar quality and the in-game action is no slouch either”
PSU – “Pixar-like graphics in real time”
Eurogamer – “Just like the previous game, ACIT is almost as pretty as a Pixar”
robinchung – “Ratchet & Clank looks absolutely stunning; it’s like an interactive Pixar movie”
Christian-gaming – “They basically are a Disney/Pixar movie you control”
Destructoid – “To say Insomniac could hold its weight against animated fun-for-all-ages heavy hitters like Pixar and Disney wouldn’t be much of a stretch.”
USA Today – “The first game to truly deliver the long-sought ‘You’re playing a Pixar movie’ experience”
January 15th, 2012
Here are some more;
“the fact is that Kameo looks like a last gen game compare to R&C which looks like a pixar movie from start to finish..all at 60 frames per second.”
“You and godless have not played the game yet. I have and the game defintiely looks like a pixar movie. ”
http://gamer.blorge.com/2011/09/25/evidence-rage-for-ps3-already-using-super-texture-pack/
You weren’t comparing R&C to Uncharted then. It also seems like you can’t tell the difference between a Pixar movie and R&C. In fact you say it looks like a Pixar movie at 60 fps in your first quote.
How can I argue graphics with you Roca if you can’t tell the difference between a movie rendered over months on a server farm and a game rendered on a PS3 in real time?
There’s bending the truth game breaking it. Just like making up 7m in PSP sales.
January 15th, 2012
“There’s bending the truth game breaking it”
There’s bending the truth and breaking it
January 15th, 2012
Thanks for proving that I never said the words “on par” – you really are an idiot.
January 15th, 2012
“Just like making up 7m in PSP sales.”
not making anything up because I was just saying sales might be close to 80M – that’s what ~80M
you’re just out of straw and want to keep arguing over the same shit even though you admitted acknowledging what I really meant and even you stated “<80" which is more or less the same this as ~80M and not 80M+
You're really desperate and out of straws.
January 15th, 2012
Well “on par” wouldn’t have been as bad. On par means in the same ball park, which is still wrong but not unforgivable.
saying
“R&C which looks like a pixar movie from start to finish..all at 60 frames per second”
is worse. It’s saying that if you put Wall E and R&C next to each other you’d give them the same marks on graphics.
It’s like saying you can’t tell the difference between McDonald’s and a three michelin star restaurant. Which is fine but I’m not going to take your recommendation on where to eat.
January 15th, 2012
“In fact you say it looks like a Pixar movie at 60 fps in your first quote”
twisting my words again, how pathtic.
I meant the game looks “like” a pixar not (never said it was “on par”)
I don’t think you know the definition of the word “like”…or you just acting stupid (maybe you really are that stupid)
Like = “Having the same characteristics or qualities as; similar to..”
the the 60fps reference is because R&C is in FACT a 60fps game…stop hating and accept reality. douche
January 15th, 2012
“it’s hard to tell whether R&C is a game or a pixar movie”
Hard for some maybe. Do you have vision problems Roca?
January 15th, 2012
parity definiton = “The state or condition of being equal”
similarity (like) vs equality (on par)
two difference things, why can’t you get that in your head is beyond “me” (pun totally intended)
January 15th, 2012
“it’s hard to tell whether R&C is a game or a pixar movie”
taking quotes out of context, that was said in comparasion to UC2 vs real life movies and R&C vs animated pixar movies. I was never comparing image quality, idiot…
you’re so desperate that you keep twisting my sentence or just quoting half of it just to try to make it seems as if I meant somthing totally different.
January 15th, 2012
Poor baby.
If you started with “360: 57M PSP: 73M” I wouldn’t have argued, because they are comparable numbers. If you’d said that R&C has a “Pixar movie experience” from the start then that would have been fine too, the art styles are similar.
The PS3 is a fairly good console. If you didn’t make such silly claims then I’d have no ammunition to hit you with.
Anyway I’m still waiting for oldschool to say that Uncharted 3 on PS3 has better graphics than Skyrim on PC. What do you think Roca?
January 15th, 2012
silly claims or you can’t fully comprehend the the terms “like” (similarity) and ~ (estimate, close to..)
boy you really make things easy…stop playing semantics and grow up
and oldschool is right, Uncharted 3 won’t best graphics this year over Skyrim and U3 is in fact a graphically more impressive game.
January 15th, 2012
won’t = won*
January 15th, 2012
Did you just say that Uncharted 3 on PS3 has better graphics than Skyrim on PC?
January 15th, 2012
“Anyway I’m still waiting for oldschool to say that Uncharted 3 on PS3 has better graphics than Skyrim on PC. What do you think Roca?”
I did say it you stupid fucking cunt. Which one is getting all the nods and recognition? Uncharted 3.
I see you dodged my question though: which game has better animations, Skyrim or Uncharted?
Which one is more polished?
Which one has bigger set pieces?
Which one is the smoother experience, graphically?
January 15th, 2012
“Did you just say that Uncharted 3 on PS3 has better graphics than Skyrim on PC?”
This stupid prick is so stupid, how many times must we repeat stuff? Show us links proving otherwise, we can show you links showing which one is getting the awards for graphics and the acclaim in reviews.
January 15th, 2012
“the art styles are similar”
and the picture quality are similar as well (not on par)
Pixar: best picture quality in the animated movie business
R&C: best picture quality in the animated game business
see the similarity, they are both “best in the business” so in a sense, P&C is “like” (similar) a pixar movie (top quality graphics and animations) but not “on par” (equal).
idk why you keep arguing this, here is one of the many the quotes from many critics and reviews backing this up
(unless you find as many quotes saying other wise stfu)
Kotaku – “Take anything from Dreamworks or Pixar, and compare them and you will find that ToD is a visual feast that rivals them”
January 15th, 2012
“Did you just say that Uncharted 3 on PS3 has better graphics than Skyrim on PC?”
twisting my words again?
here is what I said:
and oldschool is right, Uncharted 3 won best graphics this year over Skyrim and U3 is in fact a ‘graphically more impressive’ game
January 15th, 2012
The many, many quotes are proving him wrong so he’s grasping at straws acting like you’re saying the game is technically as impressive as a Pixar movie. It offers a Pixar like experience, is he really struggling to understand this? Fuck, he’s a stupid as CON.
January 15th, 2012
“twisting my words again?”
Fuck it, I’ll say it. It’s really annoying him so I’ll keep saying it unless he can prove otherwise lmao.
January 15th, 2012
he even ran away from the XCOM article after he tried to argue that XCOM (PC) (with its dated cartoonish graphics) might look better than Killzone lol
January 15th, 2012
“This stupid prick is so stupid, how many times must we repeat stuff?”
Well that’s as close to me having you say that Uncharted 3 on PS3 has better graphics than Skyrim on PC. Don’t be a bitch and pretend you never said it now.
Roca still think I’m twisting his words so I don’t think he agrees with you oldshool.
I’ll have a look at the XCOM article now. Do you have some kind of automatic update system Roca or do you just check the web pages all the time?
January 15th, 2012
Me_
First, PS3 has the better games graphcially over the 360….period, 5 years wortth of Graphcal Awards is the proof in the pudding…
Also, yes R&C got compared to a Pixar movie…..it looks that good…live with the statement, its a compliment for R&C in both style and graphics…..and my gaming pc is most likely better tyan yours, so i guess i know graphics better than you? Using your logic..
@the sales argument
Yes im tired of it too, then if you want it to stop, tell the xbitches to stoo using it as an arguement….
This isnhiw it starts:
PS3 fanboy: yes, we win graphical award of the year again AND we get more exclusive games awesome!
360 fanbitch: but Halo sells more…
Ps3 fanboy: but we get to play UC and Killzone
360 fanbitch: but we get forza, fable, gears and Kinect..
Ps3 fanboy: okay w get gt5, GoW, Resistance and Move…oh we also get Modnation and LBP..
360 fanbitch: but our games sell more…
Ps3 fanboy: we also get heavy rain, twisted metal, r&c, jak, last guardian…what other games do you get?
360 fanbitch: but our games sell more AND our system outsells yours and we have most WW sales…
Ps3 fanboy: who cares we get more games, and yes you have more WW sales but we actually outsell you yearly..
360fanbitch: but our games outsell yours abd we have more WW sales…so that means we outsell you…
Ps3 fanboy: again who cares because we have more games, and yes you have more WW sales, we never said otherwise, and no sorry, actual data says ps3 outsells the 360 yearly…and what exclusives are you playing?
360 fanbitch: but we have more WW sales…and Kinect JumpingIdiot Adventures 3 and it outsells your 30 exclusives….Kinect JumpingIdiot Adventures is awesome core gaming!
Ps3fanboy: thats great…
January 15th, 2012
the XCOM article is just a click away…how many times have you click on this article (press F5 or the refresh button)?
and I believe I agreed with oldschool that Uncharted 3 won best graphics over Skyrim and it’s a graphically more impressive game.
January 15th, 2012
“tell the xbitches to stoo using it as an arguement”
If I could tell the “xbitches” anything and have them listen to me maybe I’d try.
On a side note Jojo, you said on another thread that you were running some PC games at higher resolution that 1080p. At the time the aspect ratio seemed a little crazy to me, like it was a 4:3 CRT. Have you got a higher than 1080p LCD? I’m asking because the one I have at work is 1200p (or something like that) and looks really good. I was think of getting another 6970 and running them in SLI to get good 1600p performance but want some perspective before I spend the money (the 1600p monitors look like they’re $1,000 AUD at the moment).
January 15th, 2012
“the XCOM article is just a click away…how many times have you click on this article”
There must be some kind of application that poles a site to figure out if anybody has respond to your comment. Hmmm.. maybe I could write something in Java.
January 15th, 2012
Still see you dodged my question lmfao!!!
January 15th, 2012
Is your question “which game has better animations, Skyrim or Uncharted?”
Animations….. how the fuck are you going to prove that?
If you said “Uncharted 3 on PS3 has better graphics than Skyrim on PC” then we could have a discussion. You keep on saying that you have stated it but look through the thread and you’ll see that you haven’t.
I refuse to argue with somebody who isn’t even confident enough to state his own position.
January 15th, 2012
@Me_
On a side note Jojo, you said on another thread that you were running some PC games at higher resolution that 1080p. At the time the aspect ratio seemed a little crazy to me, like it was a 4:3 CRT. Have you got a higher than 1080p LCD? I’m asking because the one I have at work is 1200p (or something like that) and looks really good. I was think of getting another 6970 and running them in SLI to get good 1600p performance but want some perspective before I spend the money (the 1600p monitors” look like they’re $1,000 AUD at the moment).”
It depends where im PC Gaming….
If im gaming on this:
Sony
http://reviews.cnet.com/projection-tvs/sony-kds-55a3000/4505-6484_7-32468848.html
Then with my HDMI Cable i believe the best i can get out of it is at the 1600×1200 Resolution
The games i usually like playing on this screen setting are Starcraft 2, WoW, WAR and SWTOR, mainly the massive online games…
If i game on this
http://www.smalldog.com/product/74327/nec-ea241wm-bk-multisync-24in-widescreen-lcd-display-black/atfgc
I play between 1600×1200 or if i feel like having super eye candy i ll move it up to 2560 x 1600 <—depending on the games, like for example, Battlefield 3, my rig will run it like the PS3/Console versions at around 35+ FPS….thats pretty taxing being that high of a resolution and along with Skyrim and Crysis/Crysis 2, are the only games i have that actually bring my rig to a knee lol
Other than that i enjoy PC Gaming at the 1600×1200 resolutions, as i find that is the sweet spot between having over 60FPS with not most, all of the eye candy turned on….
As for getting a second 6970…i'd wait and see as ATI's latest graphic cards just dropped i believe the 7970 released IIRC so i'd wait and see the benchmarks/performance per dollar of either getting a whole new card or fidgeting with SLI/Crossfire performance compatibility issues rather than just having a single powerful card <—which is what i prefer…still, if the price/performance works your way with the SLI performance, i'd say why not…
January 15th, 2012
“Animations….. how the fuck are you going to prove that?”
Simple, they have invented something called “eyes”. What about set pieces and polish? I see you dodged them. Keep dodging fanboy
“I refuse to argue with somebody who isn’t even confident enough to state his own position.”
You really are as stupid as CON …hmm. I’ve stated it about 5 times now! But if that’s the excuse you want to use to avoid answering those questions then by all means.
January 15th, 2012
“Uncharted 3 is a ‘graphically more impressive’ game than Skyrim…that’s a FACT backed up by many awards nominations, etc”
Skyrim on a proper gaming PC probably has less jaggies and a higher resolution. In this regard it can be considered to have better graphics. The problem is for overall awards judges usually include the console versions, which are nowhere near as pretty as Uncharted 3. Artistic style, flow, character animation (especially face), etc. would probably go to UC3.
That said, I really don’t care about graphics as much as the overall game itself. In that department, Skyrim is winning more GotY’s than UC3.
January 15th, 2012
which game has a higher resolution = Skyrim (PC)
which game is a graphically more impressive game = U3
even with its higher resolition, none of the Skyrim characters look as good the one in Uncharted 3…
You can make a Kirby game in 1080p, that doesn’t mean it will be a graphically more impressive game than U3.
January 15th, 2012
Outstanding Achievement in Visual Engineering
-Battlefield 3
-Crysis 2
-L.A. Noire
-RAGE
-Uncharted 3: Drake’s Deception
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/01/12/uncharted-3-leads-aias-2011-award-nominations/
January 15th, 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_the_Year#Joystiq
January 16th, 2012
Okay im about to put the Skyrim vs Uncharted debate to rest…
On consoles, Uncharted wins, on PC, Skyrim is fuking gorgeous…
Lets put this in perspective in one sentence on why Skyrim is graphcially better (PC) vs Uncharted 3 PS3):
Imagine if Uncharted was developed as a PC game….
Theyd have access to MORE ram sonwed have higher res textures, MORE on screen action….MORE uncharted basically…
PS3 is limited to 512 gb of split RAM…the PC can dictate the minimum requires to be 2gb..MINIMUM…
I wont get into the specifics of processing power andnwhat not, graphically…PC remains king…play BF3 at 1600×1200 resolution with ALL pc effects on WITH 4x AA minimum @60fps…..the difference will blow you away….oh and some rigs can run it at 2450x 1600 resolutions….imagine Skyrims enviroments at those resolutions with all effects on…..i get to enjoy it, i dont imagine it….
Now…thats not tobtake away from UC3…. that games looks fuking amazing at only the MOST graphically intense PC games come even close to it, it takes something like Skyrim, BF3, GW2 etc….to even compare…and that is testament enough to undisputedly say that the PS3 has some serious graphical power…much moreso than the 360 which, despite LAUNCHING the HD console era has not even managed a single graphical award….Another testament to the PS3 graphical power
January 17th, 2012
Where is Crysis 2 in all of this malarkey???
Blasphemous, if you ask me.
January 17th, 2012
Uncharted 3 and L.A. Noire have the best characters.
UC3 vs Skyrim graphics–My vote goes to UC3 for best overall graphics.
January 17th, 2012
Captain
i mentioned it in there somewhere i believe
January 18th, 2012
Oh?
Ok then, don’t mind me, just passing through.