Those new Xbox 720 rumors in full…
The rumors surrounding the next-generation of video games hardware are arriving at an increasing rate of knots. Which means one thing: the next-gen is definitely on its way. Unfortunately it also means we have to determine what’s true and what’s false. And whether these rumored features are good or bad ideas.
Holiday 2013 Release
I’ve been saying Microsoft will release its next console in 2013 for a while now, and it’s now being suggested that this is indeed the plan. Retailers will take shipments of the Xbox 720, Xbox Next, or Xbox Loop in October or November next year.
True or False = Highly Likely
Good or Bad = Good
Six Times As Powerful
IGN suggests the system’s GPU will be akin to the “Radeon HD 6670, which offers support for DirectX11, multidisplay output, 3D and 1080p HD output.” In terms of raw graphics processing power, the Xbox 720 is expected to be six times as powerful as the current Xbox 360.
True or False = True
Good or Bad = Good
From DVD To Blu-ray
Microsoft is expected to shift from DVD to Blu-ray as its means of playing physical media. I’d actually classify this as less of a rumor and more of an urgent need at this point in time. If the company doesn’t do this then they’re idiots.
True or False = True
Good or Bad = Good
Kinect 2
The Xbox 720 will ship with Kinect 2 built in to the hardware. This would seem to me to be a no-brainer. Kinect has done well as a standalone system, so why not improve it and bundle it next time around?
True or False = True
Good or Bad = Good
No Used Games For You
This is by far the most troubling rumor to emerge. According to Kotaku, Microsoft is planning to “incorporate some sort of anti-used game system as part of their so-called Xbox 720.” I’m not sure how legal such a move would be, but it would certainly be morally contemptible. Consumers should be allowed to buy, sell, and trade any goods they have bought legally.
True or False = Possible
Good or Bad = Bad
What do you think of these rumors? What do you want/not want to see on the Xbox 720? Are you as bothered as I am by the moves to stop people playing used games?
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January 25th, 2012
Everything seemed perfect until you mentioned the used game feature. Even if that’s true the case I think it’s safe to say that I will be an official Xbot in 2013.
Microsoft I am glad to be back on the Xbox ship come 2013!
If the Xbox 720 has bluray, an internal slide drive like PS3, all of the multimedia features of PS3 like rewind, fast forward, copy media to and from the “UPGRADEABLE” harddrive, and the ability to copy and paste game saves, I’m in!!!!
The 720 better not have RROD problems like 360….sorry Sony. You guys pissed me off to much with bad decisions this generation…I’m rejoining the Xbox crew if all goes well.
January 25th, 2012
The power is within Sony’s hands to release PS4 late this year or early 2012 to shock everyone. If they allow Microsoft to release the next gen console before them AGAIN….then they are truly stupid. WISE UP Sony and forget about your success you had with PS2! This isn’t 2000 anymore it’s 2012!! New day new thing.
January 26th, 2012
You’ve missed out that the 720 (according to rumours) will only be 20% more powerful than the Wii U.
January 26th, 2012
“The Xbox 720 will ship with Kinect 2 built in to the hardware. This would seem to me to be a no-brainer. Kinect has done well as a standalone system, so why not improve it and bundle it next time around?
True or False = True
Good or Bad = Good”
I would say Not Likely, and it most likely would be bad if it were true. The reason is it doesn’t make sense to add in such a cost for something that not everyone needs (or even wants) to use. It’s not like a blu-ray player. It needs to have a direct line of sight to the player(/s) which means if it were built in you couldn’t tuck the 720 away on a media shelf.
However, I could see it happening IF it would be made to be detachable (and preferably wireless), and if that’s the case, why not just avoid the added cost in the base model in the first place. Perhaps they could drive down the cost to where it would be negligible, but I doubt it. Of course it should also be more useful and functional for everything, which is also a possibility: enhanced recognition (to fingertip level) and able to control every application (to include compatibility with your theater setup/home electronics/lighting/security/etc.) without lag would go a long way towards this. Still, Not Likely. Kinect is to big to be built in presently and I don’t see them being able to fit even a smaller version into a next gen console.
“Everything seemed perfect until you mentioned the used game feature. Even if that’s true the case I think it’s safe to say that I will be an official Xbot in 2013.”
Vote with your dollar man! If you don’t like something a manufacturer is doing and it represents a major downward curve for the entire industry then wait for the competitors to provide a better product that offers more value.
“If they allow Microsoft to release the next gen console before them AGAIN….then they are truly stupid.”
Not if their product winds up being significantly better in many aspects… AGAIN.
January 26th, 2012
“You’ve missed out that the 720 (according to rumours) will only be 20% more powerful than the Wii U.”
“Wii U final dev kits “more powerful than anticipated”
http://www.nintengen.com/2012/01/wii-u-final-dev-kits-more-powerful-than.html
January 26th, 2012
LOL Blu-ray drive.
Hear that you cock sucking MS fanboy bitches…that’s Sony fucking you up the ass and whispering “You like that bitch?” in your ear.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA
January 26th, 2012
^Lol!
I’m surprised because I thought the Xbots claimed blu ray was irrelevant?
January 26th, 2012
Xbots are damned if they do and damned if they dont.
Blu ray included and they will get told they are being shafted by sony (not sure why)
No blu ray and they will be laughed at for not including a current high capacity media.
Personally I think they will have to include blu ray for movies, but as the next gen progresses I think blu ray will become less relavent due to game and movie streaming.
January 26th, 2012
The idea of stopping used games being played is also very worrying.
What happens in years to come when you want a game that is no longer available to purchase? Also what about collectors that want to build up a game catalog/collection?
Kinect 2 is should be included. I personally hate having to buy an accessory at extra cost to play a handful of games. But look at the Wii. It worked for it so as long as including Kinect 2 doesn’t stop MS including normal control methods then what harm will it do?
January 26th, 2012
And finally. It being 6 times more powerful than the 360! Does that mean the re-release of Call Of Duty (but with a different number on the end) will be 6 times better looking but still exactly the same game as it was 5 years ago?
January 26th, 2012
“^Lol!
I’m surprised because I thought the Xbots claimed blu ray was irrelevant?”
6 years ago blu ray was irrelevant for a gaming console.
MS didn’t wan’t the console to cost an extra £100 so they didn’t use it (and quite rightly) MS didn’t make a > £350 loss on every console sold for the first year, and then spend the next 3 years making further huge losses on hardware sales. MS is not in the business to make losses.
blu ray is now catching on & costs have dropped, it’s now time to put it in a gaming machine.
I don’t think the next xbox will come with Kinect built in, if it comes as standard with the package at all (which I don’t think it will), it will be a separate piece of hardware.
The “no second hand games” thing, is something the devs have been working towards for for some time, that’s why most of the new games come with a code that unlocks the multiplayer, all they will do is extend the licensing to include the single player. So you will still be able to buy the game second hand, but the odds are you will then need to buy a licence and register it to play it on your console. just the same as all DLC works right now.
The performance thing is a bit confusing, a few months back they tell us the Wii U is a little more powerful than the current gen, then they tell us the next xbox is 6 times as powerful as the current xbox, & 20% more powerful than the Wii U.
Now either the processing power is measured on a non linear scale, that I can’t quiet get my head around, or the Wii U is a hell of a lot more powerful than we were first lead to believe.
Have Nintendo revised the |Wii U specifications following the shock response regarding its lack of power when first revealed?
January 26th, 2012
“blu ray is now catching on & costs have dropped, it’s now time to put it in a gaming machine.”
Actually godless. The xbots have been trying to prove BRD as being irrelevant even with the next gen consoles.
January 26th, 2012
RUMOUR MILL!!! WOOP WOOP!
Can’t wait to see the specs on the new consoles.
“The xbots have been trying to prove BRD as being irrelevant even with the next gen consoles.”
Show me some quotes troll.
Sony and Microsoft are fully in bed with each other, especially in the pc/laptop market. The only doubts I have about bluray is that it isn’t necessarily designed for streaming multiple layers of data so maybe another format could be used for gaming purposes but definitely worth throwing a bluray player in for the casual audience.
6 times more powerful! GTA 6 springs to mind! Just imagine…
January 26th, 2012
http://gamer.blorge.com/2010/09/28/xbox-360-kinect-requires-some-work-to-setup/#comment-140427
The best part of that topic was making happy my bitch.
takes a bow.
BTW. Now you have no choice but to respond with a link whenever I ask for it troll.
January 26th, 2012
“MS is not in the business to make losses. ”
@Godless
Ummm, Microsoft lost roughly 4 billion on the first Xbox and it was dead after 4 years. Then they quickly move on to the 360 with crazy faliure rates for some time after launching. Companies know that sometimes you need to loose money to make money. Microsoft did not put Blu-Ray in because of HDDVD, not because they were scared to loose money. LMFAO, you are so blind and ignorant!
January 26th, 2012
Hmmmm, what add on was that for the 360 again? Oh yeah, a shitty HDDVD drive! Bwahahahaha this kid is a joker smoker!
January 26th, 2012
Phranc
“Actually godless. The xbots have been trying to prove BRD as being irrelevant even with the next gen consoles.”
CON beat me to it, this is not what the xbots have been arguing.
The argument was that Blu ray was not a necessary for a gaming console “this gen”. Sony had an alterer motive for pushing blu ray into the PS3, and it had bog all to do with gaming needs.
you only have to look at the size of 95% of ripped PS3 games, to know that they will fit with no problems on a DVD. most games use the extra space for making of Documentaries, and the likes, with only a small handful utilising the space for actual “gaming” purposes.
the argument that the space is needed for better graphics is a crock, You only have to look at PC to see, that Blu ray is not needed to make great looking games fit on a DVD.
January 26th, 2012
@godless.
“CON beat me to it, this is not what the xbots have been arguing.”
CON just got fucking owned by my link.
Before you tell me what the argument was about, I suggest you read about 400 or so posts on the link I just provided.
January 26th, 2012
Oops posted on link
Nothing has changed on this site, same old arguments over & over.
January 26th, 2012
Yeah and it always ends with you aavoiding posts with logic! Hahahahahaha, idiot!
January 26th, 2012
“Nothing has changed on this site, same old arguments over & over.”
The one thing that has changed is there doesn’t see to be really any competent xbots to argue with.
You for one, barely register to me as an xbot even though it seems Roca wants you to be one so bad to pick up the slack for the lack there-of.
ahhhh. how I miss the good ol’ days.
I recall and sales argument with kev and happy which ended in a bet that would have made the loser an “opposite fanboy” for a month.
They both vanished.
This year I can’t make that bet. I would never expect MS to push out 8.2M systems in a quarter. My PS3 estimate is 6.6-7M for last quarter.
January 26th, 2012
oh.. BTW. That link is a very good read. Things I straight up don’t have the time or energy to write are there.
January 26th, 2012
Radeon HD 6670 is mediocre at best. Given the fact that it might release next year, just compounds the short coming. Imagine 4-5 years past that?
The 720 is going to be a marginal step forward, and will in no way be the kind of leap that we saw with the Xbox to the 360.
Btw Kinect 2 is a bad. Who needs more shovelware? It would be nice if M$ actually focused on creating games and new IPs.
January 26th, 2012
The only thing I have against blu ray is the slow disc reading speeds. I hate the fact that you always have to install games on the hardrive before you can play the game.
January 26th, 2012
“The only thing I have against blu ray is the slow disc reading speeds. I hate the fact that you always have to install games on the hardrive before you can play the game.”
Yeah. You take the good with the bad. There’s at least no changing discs on multi disc DVD games, and it improves load times.
It’s games like MGS4 that drove me nuts watching Snake smoke a cig for a couple of minutes between chapters. lol
January 26th, 2012
Godless is such a fanboy that he expressed his desired for Microsoft to built their own gaming format for disc based game instead of supporting Bluray.
Microsoft is just catching up to the PS3..little late but later is better than ever.
January 26th, 2012
It’s pretty clear that the Next Xbox will be built around Kinect.
Microsoft is hiring developers to open two new gaming studios – to be dedicated Kinect studios.
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/01/23/microsoft-hiring-for-leap-and-platform-next-game-studios/
January 26th, 2012
Phranc
I asked for quotes to your specific point.
January 26th, 2012
Find them. I posted the link right to the question of me asking what Nextbox will have.
“Quotes” are redundant since I gave you what you asked for and then some with the link.
January 26th, 2012
CON doesn’t get tired of getting owned. lmao
January 26th, 2012
So in other words you can’t find any quotes from xbots saying bluray is irrelevant???
I’d certainly like to see some sort of new device as both dvd and bluray had their pitfalls this gen.
January 26th, 2012
Poor CON, doing what he does best: trolling and getting owned.
January 26th, 2012
You lazy fuck.
My post:
“Anyone else think that MS will use Blu Ray next gen or some sort of hybrid of blu ray tech to avoid license fees.”
Happy:
“phranctoast:
“you actually think they’d use HDDVD tech that plays a grand total of 475 movies with no more on the way”
What have films got to do with them using HD DVD as a secure media for games on their next gaming console?
Nobody has said this has anything to do with films.
Whjat a stupid pointless & idiotic tedious little fanboy remark to make.
The fact is that the 51gb triple layer disc is working (it was on the verge of coming out when the plug was pulled on HD DVD 2 yrs back – and has been developed further since then as DVD Forum minutes prove).
The format also benefits from being their own and avoids paying a royalty or lifting a finger to aid Sony & the BDA.
Blu-ray/PS3 fanboys are delusional if they think Blu-ray is coming to Xbox.
Tough to get over but there you go.
How many times does it need spelling out?
Blu-ray itself?
Ha! Much fun with Blu-ray lately.
Things are not going so well.
2008 –
4.45% of the total movie disc market.
63.154 million units sold verses 1,407.1 million.
http://www.dvdinformation.com/News/press/042809.html
2009 -
7.9% of the total movie disc market.
94.79 million units shipped v 1,194.4 million
1 stat – http://www.degonline.org/pressreleases/2009/f_2Q10release.pdf
2nd stat -
http://www.dvdinformation.com/
click data & resources & read box that comes up
2010 –
Can’t find DVD’s numbers but Q1 & Q2 of Blu-ray are at a disappointing 77 million.
In other words once again (they failed last year) nothing like the same as DVDs 4 straight years of year on year growth doubling.
http://www.degonline.org/pressreleases/2009/f_2Q10release.pdf
DEG Europe also kindly have given us the all of Europe stats for Q1 of 2010 –
Sales doubled (who hoo)…… to a laughable 8.4 million units.
This verses DVDs 135 million in the same period, so a mere 6.2% of the market.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/home-cinema/news/2010/05/21/Blu-ray-Disc-Sales-Double-Year-on-Year/p1
No wonder the Blu-ray fanboys love to stick to playing with percentages (sales up 109%!!!!) and keep well clear of actual numbers sold and how this compares with DVD.
Read it & weep Blu-ray fanboys.
Thems the latest numbers (real numbers of actual units sold…..oh and note how the BDA have shifted to numbers ‘shipped’ to boost things a little).
Imagine how I laughed”
Happy’s post is his way of saying BRD is irrelevant.
January 26th, 2012
You lazy fuck.
My post:
“Anyone else think that MS will use Blu Ray next gen or some sort of hybrid of blu ray tech to avoid license fees.”
Happy Says:
“phranctoast:
“you actually think they’d use HDDVD tech that plays a grand total of 475 movies with no more on the way”
What have films got to do with them using HD DVD as a secure media for games on their next gaming console?
Nobody has said this has anything to do with films.
Whjat a stupid pointless & idiotic tedious little fanboy remark to make.
The fact is that the 51gb triple layer disc is working (it was on the verge of coming out when the plug was pulled on HD DVD 2 yrs back – and has been developed further since then as DVD Forum minutes prove).
The format also benefits from being their own and avoids paying a royalty or lifting a finger to aid Sony & the BDA.
Blu-ray/PS3 fanboys are delusional if they think Blu-ray is coming to Xbox.
Tough to get over but there you go.
How many times does it need spelling out?
Blu-ray itself?
Ha! Much fun with Blu-ray lately.
Things are not going so well.
2008 –
4.45% of the total movie disc market.
63.154 million units sold verses 1,407.1 million.
ht*p://w*w.dvdinformation.com/News/press/042809.html
2009 -
7.9% of the total movie disc market.
94.79 million units shipped v 1,194.4 million
1 stat – ht*p://w*w.degonline.org/pressreleases/2009/f_2Q10release.pdf
2nd stat -
ht*p://w*w.dvdinformation.com/
click data & resources & read box that comes up
2010 –
Can’t find DVD’s numbers but Q1 & Q2 of Blu-ray are at a disappointing 77 million.
In other words once again (they failed last year) nothing like the same as DVDs 4 straight years of year on year growth doubling.
ht*p://w*w.degonline.org/pressreleases/2009/f_2Q10release.pdf
DEG Europe also kindly have given us the all of Europe stats for Q1 of 2010 –
Sales doubled (who hoo)…… to a laughable 8.4 million units.
This verses DVDs 135 million in the same period, so a mere 6.2% of the market.
ht*p://w*w.trustedreviews.com/home-cinema/news/2010/05/21/Blu-ray-Disc-Sales-Double-Year-on-Year/p1
No wonder the Blu-ray fanboys love to stick to playing with percentages (sales up 109%!!!!) and keep well clear of actual numbers sold and how this compares with DVD.
Read it & weep Blu-ray fanboys.
Thems the latest numbers (real numbers of actual units sold…..oh and note how the BDA have shifted to numbers ‘shipped’ to boost things a little).
Imagine how I laughed.”
Happy’s post is his way of saying BRD is irrelevant.
Mod’s please delete my first post with all the links happy posted.
January 26th, 2012
I hope the PS4 has HDMI in and HDMI out this time..this was a PS3 feature but it never made it to the actual product.
January 26th, 2012
“The AMD Radeon HD 6670 is humble compared to high-end enthusiast graphics chips in AMD’s stable, such as the Radeon HD 6990, and it’s not as fast as older the older Radeon HD 5750 chip”
http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/review/pc_components/amd/radeon_hd_6670/386801
January 26th, 2012
many leaked info about the next Xbox…
I wonder what Sony is cooking…
Last time I heard Naughty Dog was working on a million polygon character models for a next gen game
To put that in perspective, Uncharted 2 character models were over 30,000 polygons, and Kratos in GOW III is made of only 20,000 polygons
January 26th, 2012
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/files/2010/11/dr-evil.jpg
January 26th, 2012
^ LOL
January 26th, 2012
Sony better be cooking something. It would be not be a wise decision for Sony not to launch around the same time that Microsoft does.
January 26th, 2012
Microsoft negotiating the use of Blu-ray in their upcoming Xbox
http://www.reddit.com/tb/oxkit
January 26th, 2012
Lmao I hope you don’t get banned for that.
January 26th, 2012
^^^^ Alot of old people posting fragmented sentences here.
January 26th, 2012
LOL who you calling old.
Oh wait, I am.
LOL LOL LOL Happy Australia Day!!!!!!
Ohh before I forget, FUCK THE GIANTS, GO PATS!!!!!!
January 26th, 2012
“compared to high-end enthusiast graphics chips in AMD’s stable, such as the Radeon HD 6990″
And the HD 6990 is ~$800. Even if they halved that amount by the end of next year it would be too much for a home console. Sorry, but I’m not in the market for a $800 console, unless the manufacturer wants to take the loss and only charge me ~$400.
January 27th, 2012
Still waiting for the quote from someone saying bluray is irrelevant.
I think most xbots agree that bluray isn’t ideal for gaming but there’s no reason why it can’t be used for media.
January 27th, 2012
It must be nice to live in that pretend world con, where you can pick and choose what you like to see.
I already made you my bitch. You have about 400 posts to read. Enjoy.
January 27th, 2012
@CON
so you’re admitting Bluray was relevant?
January 27th, 2012
“I think most xbots agree that bluray isn’t ideal for gaming”
Exactly why xbots are retarded morons that take it in the ass from MS.
January 27th, 2012
@CON
your a piece of shit, go read the fucking thread and you will see Hapoyhockum, kev, your bitch ass self and CAD say “br is irrelevant” for gaming and even call it a waste..
@Godless
Again you make yourself look stupid…PC gamesblook as good asnthey do because they DICTATE the running requirements for their games, the dvd is pretty much all the files in a zipped folder later unzipped onto your pc with its hundred of gb of hd.space…
Consoles arenthe opposite and developers have to work around limited resources …having a br drive gives them more space and resources to work with:
Capcom
Square
Rocksta
have all been VERY vocal about having to cut game content (which makes nr relevant to gaming xbitches) due to the 360 not having enough space…..or able to handle the extra content
Naughty Dog
Konami
have all been very vocal about how BR allows them the freedom to create games that are not possible on the 360…
/down owning CON and Godless
January 27th, 2012
“your a piece of shit, go read the fucking thread and you will see Hapoyhockum, kev, your bitch ass self and CAD say “br is irrelevant” for gaming and even call it a waste..”
Not only for gaming. Most of the happy posts are him trying to prove how much of a failure BRD as a home media format.
How isn’t that an example of someone saying BRD’s not relevant?
His numbers were also way off. He had BRD penetration at something around 7% when it was more than double that at the time. Now we’re somewhere between 20-25% marketshare.
January 27th, 2012
Phranc
Glad you posted that link, it shows the remnants of the xbitch squad, desperately trying to find anything to make MS and the 360 look good..
It fills me with joy to see how right on a lot of us were (hehe myself especially) on what the future may have held…we have Hh the dipshit, CAD, CON, Kev etc..all arguing how BR is failing, how MS would never get into BR, how MS would lead the DD age with its Zune and LIVE marketplace, how IE8 was gonna be great, and how W7Mobile was gonna bring mobile gaming while on our side we were telling them, BR is the standard HD PM Format, how developers already stated it was needed, how FF/Chrome were over taking IE and how Apple and a just getting startes Android were already taking marketshare away from RIM…W7M wasnt never even a threat LMAO…we were right and they were dead wrong…still dead wrong to this day and like you said, most of them are gone because of how stupid our accurate, unbiased, level minded predictions made them look..
Whats even crazier is this was “the low” point for all the xbitches, before that, their lies and bullshit were even WORSE!!!
GOOD to see that myself, phranc, carlb, roca all pretty much comment with a level head and common sense….in comparison to the xbitches…dont believe me? Go read the entire fucking thread…we have the data, links whime they plug their ears….and remember this: they were WORSE than that thread in the previous years, when there was no ps3 fans to defend the ps3…when few stood against many
January 27th, 2012
What? What. About me? Am I just a Sony fanbitch? Lol
January 27th, 2012
My bad ncaissie i left out a lot of peeps like you, twilight, to some extent godless…i blame work…its gets int the way lol
January 27th, 2012
I was going to write something deep and meaningful, but the kids are up and it’s too early in the fucking morning.
Think I’ll cook some bacon and eggs.
Want some?
January 27th, 2012
Just had a thought, I’ve got a poker table for my Home apartment, so if you guys wanna join me for a friendly poker game, I’ll fire it up tonight at approx 9pm my time (UTC/GMT +10 hours).
I’ll keep an eye out today to this tread to see if anyone interested.
January 27th, 2012
Lmao you said that on the other thread. Fucking snowing like mad here. I hate winter.
January 27th, 2012
“GOOD to see that myself, phranc, carlb, roca all pretty much comment with a level head and common sense”
*cries*
January 28th, 2012
Jojo,
Yep, I’ve supported blu ray since launch. Blu ray is a great format. The only thing that I have ever complained about is game installs. I just especially hate the exceptionally long 20-30 minute game installs. At least these days, most game installs are not as long. I have to admit it will be funny if Microsoft uses the blu ray format in their next system. Of course, if Microsoft does this, they will be paying royalties to Sony because Sony is one of the companies that owns the blu ray technology.
Oldie,
Lol. No worries. There’s no way that anyone would mistake you for this.
January 28th, 2012
Oh sorry oldie!!! I was at work when i typed and just listed names right off the bat
Twilight
you and the others listes always bring good topics 
we might nit always agree, well fling shit at each other but unlike the xbots, a lot of what we say is accurate and based on common sense 
for the xbot who believe me, go back and see what we predicted to happen…happened 
yall were wrong in almost all topics
I know you knew back then
January 28th, 2012
Man you deleted my post from this morning Dave? Geesh thanks…
January 28th, 2012
“they will be paying royalties to Sony because Sony is one of the companies that owns the blu ray technology. Sony is one of the companies that owns the blu ray technology.”
So they’ll just be paying back the money they made off Sony using Windows in their products.
http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/os7upgrade.pl
January 29th, 2012
Lets clear things up a little bit about the slow Bluray read/write speed and installs that plague most PS3 games etc
“The only thing I have against blu ray is the slow disc reading speeds. I hate the fact that you always have to install games on the hardrive before you can play the game.”
When PS3 came out, the Bluray available at a cost effective price was a 2x speed Bluray disc. Xbox360 uses 12x DVD.
At 2X speed
DVD = 3MB/s
Bluray = 9MB/s
At 12X speed
DVD = 16MB/s
Bluray = 54MB/s
At 24X speed
DVD = 33MB/s
Bluray = 108MB/s (theoretical value, 24X Bluray don’t exist yet)
Right now, the highest speed achieved from Bluray is 12X speed = 54MB/s. So I doubt you will be seeing any install in the next Xbox or PS4 if either manufacturer uses a 12X Bluray Disc.
January 29th, 2012
“Oh sorry oldie!!! I was at work when i typed and just listed names right off the bat”
*wipes tears*
*sniffle*
January 29th, 2012
Well, given how MS was and is the reason of the current Online Pass bullshit, i for one see MS leading the way for this money grab as well on the used game bullshit…fuck MS and their next xbox….if Sony keeps things the same as now, then i will support them…fuck MS and their greedy examples that i predicted would be followed by everyone else…thank all the dipshits who have paid for LIVE Gold….<—they set the precedent for all of us….
January 29th, 2012
/throws oldie a hug
January 29th, 2012
@Jojo
You’re so gay ahahaha
January 29th, 2012
“/throws oldie a hug”
*Bends jojo over*
“You’re so gay”
*Bird joins in*
January 29th, 2012
Birdy
its unfitting!
don be jealous
January 29th, 2012
Fml…..damn my dashing good looks…but hey, its all about options….hmmm who shall get my “jojo roulette surprise” first….birdy or oldie….points at both their eyes…ready aim….
January 29th, 2012
“Well, given how MS was and is the reason of the current Online Pass bullshit”
Only Sony controls Sony.
They are responsible for their own decisions.
PSN Pass is Sony’s decision, not Microsoft’s.
January 29th, 2012
The example of charging for something thats been free all this time goes to Microsoft Carlb…
Also, ITS NOT ONLY SONY with the “Online Pass’ bullshit…Capcom, EA, Activision are all following suit, MS set the example with charging for no reason, thank them for that revolution…in all honesty, as long as there are stupid fucks that purchase LIVE Gold, its inevitable that some developers would like to follow suit….let’s just hope one of them caves, and im willing to bet that if enough people make a stink about it, Sony would have at least a history ( this gen anyways ) of listening to its gamers…
MS doesn’t give a shit about its gamers, hence look at the rumors already coming out about MS not even ALLOWING used games on their next console…it is a clear and present issue, and i share your disgust with it…but your wording is all wrong..you make it out that PSN is NOT free….when it was..your choice of words was poor as when you broke the news i really thought PSN wasn’t free anymore….
Online play vs Used Games are totally different issues…..
PSN Pass is trying to stupidly attack the used game market by limiting its online capabilities…it is NOT Sony ‘charging’ to play online…which implies ALL games like the piece of shit LIVE Gold service….<—thats all im trying to point out
But i agree…its a disgusting move STARTED by Microsoft, followed by EA/Activision and now Sony….
OFF TOPIC
Sony is developing the new screens for the iPhone 5..crazy shit eh
http://iphone5latest.com/
"Sony has also sent a top secret shipment of screens to Apple – so we just wait to find out whether it will be 4 inches or 5."
"It will support 1080p full HD. According to sources, one can fully expect to see an 8 MP camera on the iPhone 5 making it a breeze to get the best pictures and videos ever. Sony also confirmed that it had developed back illuminated stacked image (CMOS) sensors which are smaller and more powerful."
January 29th, 2012
http://www.change.org/petitions/sony-corporation-stop-psn-pass#
January 30th, 2012
The point is Sony specifically made a point of avoiding these types of practices over a year after Microsoft had implemented them. Now they have shifted their policy to the detriment of millions of it’s customers.
“look at the rumors”
Unfortunately what once might have only remained a rumor now has a greater chance of becoming reality thanks to Sony’s recent actions.
“your choice of words was poor”
Saying PSN is still free at this point is like saying someone is still free because they are only chained by one leg and free to breathe. Millions of gamers who did not have to pay a tacked on fee of $10 before now have to. That, my friend, is not “free”.
“PSN Pass is trying to stupidly attack the used game market by limiting its online capabilities…”
Agreed.
January 31st, 2012
“Saying PSN is still free at this point is like saying someone is still free because they are only chained by one leg and free to breathe. Millions of gamers who did not have to pay a tacked on fee of $10 before now have to. That, my friend, is not “free”. ”
That’s kind of a dumb ass analogy.
You could say Online isn’t free since you need to pay the money for the system or pay the money for the game. Just stop it.
January 31st, 2012
It’s kind of a dumb ass mentality to support being charged for things we havent been before on PS3 exclusives. Just stop it.