Motorola wins ruling to stop the sales of Xbox 360 consoles

April 24, 2012

Motorola wins ruling to stop the sales of Xbox 360 consolesThe big news yesterday was around a court ruling in favor of Motorola Mobility, in a case to block Microsoft from selling the Xbox 360 in the US. The dispute is around Microsoft violating Motorola’s patents that are used in the game console.

As reported by Bloomberg, US International Trade Commission judge ruled that Microsoft was violating four of the five Motorola Mobility patents. Motorola filed the patent suits in retaliation to Microsoft’s suit claiming Motorola violated patents via its Android phones.

Microsoft has been able to strong arm other mobile manufactures such as HTC and Samsung into coughing up royalties to use the disputed patented technology. Even though Microsoft’s patents have been deemed worthless by patent experts, many manufactures would rather pay a small royalty fee than having to duke it out in court for years.

However, Motorola Mobility not only refused to pay Microsoft royalties, the company sued right back and won a court ruling. The main reason Microsoft has been going after Android manufactures is to get to Google, and in a way have figured out a way to make money off Google’s Android platform with royalties.

However, with Motorola Mobility in Google’s hands it looks like things are starting to pay off for the company. According to Microsoft, if Motorola’s demands were to be met, the company would have to pay $4 billion a year in royalties.

There is one more step in the proceedings where the claim will go to a six-member commission, which has the final say on banning the Xbox 360 in the US. Not all is gloom and doom as Microsoft will most likely settle with Motorola Mobility before it even gets to that, for an undisclosed sum of money bags.

66 Responses to “Motorola wins ruling to stop the sales of Xbox 360 consoles”

  1. jojo29:

    WOW…this is what big greedy fucking bullshit ass corporations get…trying to sue the lil guys and when they try and push the big dogs, they get bit right back…First Apple, now Microsoft..Go go Little guys!!

  2. Philistine:

    “little guys” . .LMFAO

    They’re all multi billion dollar corporations you moron

    They have all been suing each other since the day and hour they started competing with each other.

    I think half these so called patents need to be openly binned.

    Things like “having a battery indicator on screen”, I mean that’s just fucking stupid.
    digital dials, used in software for decades before Apple decided to patent them. .Why the fuck was this allowed to happen?

    America has caused this ridiculous situation where companies have had to rush to patent crap that shouldn’t be allowed to be patented, Shouldn’t have to be patented.

    The world and everybody on it would be a far better place if 95% of these pathetic patents were stripped of any copyright, because they should never have been allowed to have this in the first place.

    Don’t forget, we the end customer, are the mugs who end up paying for all this bullshit, and the only ones getting rich are the fucking lawyers.

    Good to see MS getting its fingers burned in this arena, maybe if common sense was to prevail, these corporations would agree to stop trying to sue for stupid fucking things, and every one would gain.

    PS I’m not saying things should not be protected when they are a genuine innovation or invention. But things like software slider bars buttons, dials displaying date, time, incoming mail messages etc, ect. it’s beyond pathetic. This shit really pisses me off because I’m paying for some fat arsed lawyer to get very rich in the end.

  3. Kushy:

    “This shit really pisses me off because I’m paying for some fat arsed lawyer to get very rich in the end.”

    @Godless

    How are you paying for these lawyers? You think the lawyers working on behalf of these billion dollar companies are being paid by your tax dollars? Or do you mean it rises the price of comsumer goods due to the companies passing on the expense of legal fees in their products?

  4. PS3 RULEZ890:

    Philistine I agree with you on that subject, Patents should only be used to protect Brand names and IPs like Songs, Films/TV Shows, Books and Video Games not useless bits of pixels that tell me what the time is or that I need to charge my portable handheld device insert name here please >

    But from what I heard about you, I would more worried about your fav console dying out earlier you M$ planned not who is goning to buy a new Honda ZX blah blah whatever modal they just released.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRlmM88zzbY&ob=av2n

  5. PS3 RULEZ890:

    Hey Kushy does it matter if he or she is Godless or Philistine because they are still both Xbox 360 fan boys/Girls at the end of the day you know and that means they views are usally baised in favour of the 360.

    Fact there is no honour among rival fan boys/Girls in these debates over which console is better.

  6. phranctoast:

    MS being sued for someone elses idea?

    No…… You lie !

  7. PS3 RULEZ890:

    No Phranctoast it…is…the…TRUTH

    yes, scary isn’t it?

  8. PS3 RULEZ890:

    Edited
    No Phranctoast it…is…the…TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Yes, scary isn’t it?

  9. Philistine:

    kushy

    The costs incurred by the corporations for these patent issues, will be cover in some part by the cost of the product.

    If they have to pay some other corporation to have certain features then you can bet that cost is passed on in the end product.

    Imagine if software companies started patenting

    Way point indicator onscreen
    Heath bar
    Ammo bar
    Weapon wheel selection
    First person shooter perspective
    being able to jump, walk, reload.

    This is in effect what these morons are caught up in just now with the mobile phone interfaces.

    you are paying for the bullshit costs incurred when you buy the product.

  10. phranctoast:

    “Imagine if software companies started patenting
    Way point indicator onscreen
    Heath bar
    Ammo bar
    Weapon wheel selection
    First person shooter perspective
    being able to jump, walk, reload.”

    Speaking of……
    Has anyone ever seen a “kill cam” in any other game other than COD. By that I don’t mean simply a replay of you dying, but a replay of you dying form the guy that killed you perspective.

  11. phranctoast:

    Hypothetical question.

    If 360′s are blocked to U.S for a year, should people not compare the 360′s sales numbers for that year in relation to the PS3′s?

  12. Kushy:

    “The costs incurred by the corporations for these patent issues, will be cover in some part by the cost of the product.

    If they have to pay some other corporation to have certain features then you can bet that cost is passed on in the end product.”

    @Godless

    Point taken and agreed with to an extent.

    Just that the way you worded this…

    “This shit really pisses me off because I’m paying for some fat arsed lawyer to get very rich in the end.”

    made it sound like you could be implying you as a tax payer are funding these types of lawyers (which is not the case).

  13. Roca.:

    @Phranc
    “Has anyone ever seen a “kill cam” in any other game other than COD”

    in Crysis 2

  14. ncaissie:

    I have to agree with godless on this one. These slider and battery display lawsuits are just stupid and the slow progression.
    I think we could be living like the Jetsons by now if companies didn’t have all this bullshit to deal with.

  15. Kushy:

    “Hey Kushy does it matter if he or she is Godless or Philistine because they are still both Xbox 360 fan boys/Girls at the end of the day you know and that means they views are usally baised in favour of the 360.”

    @PS3 RULEZ890

    No it does not matter. I just prefer to call Philistine by his original name (Godless). He changed his name to Philistine. Go ahead and ask him for youself! lol

    “Fact there is no honour among rival fan boys/Girls in these debates over which console is better”

    Here is a fact for you. Godless and I were not debating over which console was better, we were discussing his/our opinions on patents and lawyers! Thanks for pointing that out though, really helpful! :P

  16. PS3 RULEZ890:

    it’s 2:15 UK time and someone finally replied thanks Kushy and I think we should all agree with the fact that greedy A$$Oles make our products and charge stupid prices for like Nintendo and the Wii charging £179 for 11 year old tech at the launch back in 06 that is greed trust me.

  17. CarlB:

    “The costs incurred by the corporations for these patent issues, will be cover in some part by the cost of the product.”

    Ohhh. So that’s why they charge for XBLG, and then hike the price on it without adding any real value to it that isn’t already free. Guess they’re going to have another price hike soon to still have some left over after the lawyers.

  18. Roca.:

    “Guess they’re going to have another price hike soon to still have some left over after the lawyers”

    LMAO

  19. CarlB:

    Not to mention the ads.

    In other news, 5GB storage free:

    http://www.kurzweilai.net/introducing-google-drive-yes-really?utm_source=KurzweilAI+Daily+Newsletter&utm_campaign=9cec82ea92-UA-946742-1&utm_medium=email

  20. CarlB:

    Interesting enough, Sony won’t charge you to access it, but I bet you can guess who will figure out a way eventually. Instead of adding a browser they’ll probably make an app that you have to pay for separately, then pay extra for XBLG just to use it.

  21. Roca.:

    @Carl
    “Not to mention the ads”

    and more ads incoming….”Microsoft is set to roll-out TV-style advertising for Xbox Live, with 15-30 second spots set to run within TV and video apps.

  22. jojo29:

    Godless
    l m a o

    Motorola has nowhere near the $$ MS has…heck MS just announced how great their business divisions are doing while their entertainment (of which Xbox is part of) isnt doing so well…

    Face it, MS had an agenda, they are out to get Google, by suing the “small” guys like HTC….same shit Apple was trying to pull aka trying to bully the playground, but, once a company big enough tondefend itself comes around..bam instant tables turned..read the article and market you dumbass especially if your debating with me…i follow this shit and really, i knew MS was battling it out with Motorola along with Apple, but this sideswipe as i didnt know Motorola was going after the xbox…

  23. phranctoast:

    “in Crysis 2″

    For a second there, I believed it was patented.

  24. Roca.:

    MS copied everyone when they made the Xbox

  25. oldschool1987:

    “MS copied everyone when they made the Xbox”

    Not everything, the red ring is theirs and theirs alone lol.

    In all seriousness they brought achievements which was definitely a game changer for me. It’s like a pat on the back for being good at games lol.

  26. twilight:

    Well, I am not going to put up with all of these ads while gaming unless I have too. I hope Sony never does this. I personally hate commercials/advertisements. I don’t even watch stuff that has commercials in it on tv. I usually just buy the digital copies of tv shows that I like the next day.

  27. PS3 RULEZ890:

    Godless guess what I have finished both PS3 LBP games and I spent many happy hours on them as well, along with Heavenly Sword,Resistance 1,2, Uncharted 1,2,3, Haze, DMC 4, Rage, Elder Scrolls 4,5, R&C on PS3 plus many more.

    This is a response to his bullshit claim that that most PS3 games suck.

  28. phranctoast:

    to further elaborate on Rocas post

    “Microsoft is set to roll-out TV-style advertising for Xbox Live, with 15-30 second spots set to run within TV and video apps.
    The deal also confirms new channels coming soon to US gamers, including anime-streaming from Manga Entertainment.
    “With the growth of Xbox Live, advertisers no longer have to choose between digital and TV advertising – we’re offering the impact of TV and the interactivity and addressability of digital in one platform,” said Microsoft’s Ross Honey, general manager of Xbox Live Entertainment and Advertising.
    “As more and more industry leaders like ESPN work with us to help monetize their content on Xbox Live, TV media buyers win with the ability to extend their standard TV spots to this highly engaged consumer audience.”
    Microsoft has recently enjoyed a huge increase in advertising revenue from Live. The service has earned Microsoft 142 per cent more ad cash since 2010.
    US Gold subscribers now spend an average of 84 hours a month signed in to Xbox Live, with entertainment app usage recently surpassing online multiplayer gaming for the first time.
    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-04-25-microsoft-to-launch-tv-style-adverts-on-xbox-live

  29. CarlB:

    They are good at what they do: making money.

  30. Philistine:

    @ PS3 rulez

    “This is a response to his bullshit claim that that most PS3 games suck.”

    Are you hearing these things in your head.

    Who on this site has ever made that claim. .”Quote please” as oldschool/Roca would say.

    PS

    Just to keep every one straight.
    Yes I am Godless, I changed my Nickname to Philistine when pissing around with the profile just to see what it would do, and I ended up locked out for a week or so.
    I’d change it back, but the odds are I’d get locked out for another week, so I won’t

  31. FahKinSuPah:

    “Yes I am Godless, I changed my Nickname to Philistine when pissing around with the profile just to see what it would do, and I ended up locked out for a week or so.
    I’d change it back, but the odds are I’d get locked out for another week, so I won’t”

    Ohh please do change it again! :D

  32. phranctoast:

    lol

  33. PS3 RULEZ890:

    @Godless/Philistine
    Please read the whole comment you f$%&ing skimer. Always skimming comments aimed at you.

    Unrelated to Godless what are the chances of Sony releasing 90 PS3/Ps VITA Games for Retail only?

  34. PS3 RULEZ890:

    Godless/Philistine or whatever he calls himself is nothing more than a bullsh!ter who supports the 360 and sometimes plays PS3 games.

    END OF

  35. CarlB:

    Where did you come up with 90 and retail only? Do you mean cross play games, or just titles that are released for both platforms separately?

    If we are talking about the next seven years, I would say chances are fairly good that they will release 90 titles (averaging a little over 1 a month) that are not cross play enabled. I don’t think Sony is particularly keen on cross-play, as it could be interpreted as a lost sale by shareholders instead of added value to bolster customer loyalty, which I believe it could potentially be. I think there is also a realization that retail is dying rather quickly and so with the race to online distribution, I doubt even 20% of these titles will be “retail only” (if you meant brick and mortar store only).

  36. Roca.:

    I think he’s couting 3rd party titles.

  37. PS3 RULEZ890:

    it was just a question carlb about how many games Sony would release this year.

  38. PS3 RULEZ890:

    That includes 1st, 2nd and 3rd party games as well.

  39. Philistine:

    PS3
    “Godless/Philistine or whatever he calls himself is nothing more than a bullsh!ter who supports the 360 and sometimes plays PS3 games.
    END OF”

    You’re an arse. I play both consoles pretty much 50/50, and at the moment have more trophies than achievements
    779 achievements to 866 trophies.

    Suck on that retard

    I am just about the only true multi-platform gamer on here, maybe twilight too, but she flop flops all over the place, and at this time is a PS3 fangirl. Next week it could be different.

    Others who claim to be multiplatform, Yeah!, that includes you oldschool, are clearly so far up Sony ass, only the shoes are visible.

  40. Kushy:

    “Others who claim to be multiplatform, Yeah!, that includes you oldschool, are clearly so far up Sony ass, only the shoes are visible.”

    Yes,and one could say you are so far up M$ ass that you can’t be seen! :P

    Hahaha,I only kid! As for me I am a true multipat gamer, it’s just a fact! :)

  41. PS3 RULEZ890:

    Fact I have Nintendo Consoles as well so suck that up loser and I play games the PC as well Super loser.

    Legend:
    - Loser = Philistine/Godless
    - Super Loser = Philistine/Godless

  42. Roca.:

    I’m a true multiplatform gamer. I play my PS3 and Vita equally.

    thanks to the PS3 I don’t need to play my 360 as PS3 gets all of its 3rd party titles…so why split muliplatform titles between two consoles why I can just play them on PS3 and keep boosting my trophies.

  43. jojo29:

    Godless
    You seem to be confused…we attack the 360 due to A LACK OF EXCLUSIVES GAMES (aka “reasons to own the console”) from MS and because THEY STATED NO MORE ORIGINAL IPS DUE TO HIGH RISK and the blame.squarely falls on Kinect and now to make.matters worse…MS is focusing on ads? WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE EXCLUSIVE GAMES?

    You like to call Sonys games “shitty”….So on one hand you defend lack of games and on the other bitch and moan when given a variety of genre defining, critically acclaimed game choices..

    Sorry godless but your the reisdent bitch fanboy here, look in the mirror before you dare call anyone a fanboy, you are no true multiplatformer, your just a bitch fanboy…i game on the nintendo wii because of the variety of their FIRST PARTY EXCLUSIVES, i game on PS3 because of the variety of their FIRST PARTY EXCLUSIVES and i game on PC because ofnthe variety its EXCLUSIVES….
    /done making you look stupid yet again and keep avoiding my call outs to you ;) if you dare respond ill repost them until you so bitch fanboy

  44. phranctoast:

    “You’re an arse. I play both consoles pretty much 50/50, and at the moment have more trophies than achievements
    779 achievements to 866 trophies. ”

    Which is better. Achievements or Trophies?

  45. PS3 RULEZ890:

    ^ good one jojo29 go get Godless and make sure he knows about the truth of the 360 and the Kinect.

  46. jojo29:

    Hehe thanks
    But to me its not about getting godless, its about figuring why, as a gamer, would he or anyone still support the 360?? I can see if they kept bringing new exclusives but they arent…here are the FACTS, whether godless chooses to see them or not i no longer care but these are not debatable;

    Fact: 360 has zero new exclusives save for the same 4 growing tired franchises for gamers ( halo, forza, gears and fable)

    Fact: MS stated they will no longer be creating any new original ips due to high risk…that means no new franchise exclusives

    Fact: MS is now focusing more on ad/ad revenue and music apps….i figured theyd focus on games ona game console…but what do i know, im just a gamer…

    Fact: Kinect, aside from 1 dance franchise and 1 exercise game, has produced nothing but shitty games for gamers

    Fact: the 360 does casual more shitty than Nintendo(Nintendo own the casual market) and is more shitty on the exclusive hardcore market (Sony shits andnowns MS)
    MS has solidified them selves as the lowest common denominator

  47. phranctoast:

    People seem to paint godless here as the biggest Xbot, which may be true as far as this site is concerned since CAD rarely posts, but some of those points godless has agreed with.

    Namely, he’s stressed disappointment in MS for changing their focus to mostly Kinect and more or less abandoning the core audience that put them where they are.
    At times it seems like you’re just preaching to the choir.

  48. jojo29:

    Phranc
    Yet hes compelled to defend ms and kinect…while passing judgement on Sonys exclusive offerings when those games he states as shitty have garnered favorable reviews, critical acclaim or are at the top if their respective genres…..if he doesnt like the game/style or whatnot, by all means, hes entitled to his wrong and stupid opinion lol

  49. Roca.:

    to me Godless is another HH.

  50. phranctoast:

    HH was worse.

  51. Philistine:

    Phranc
    “Which is better. Achievements or Trophies?”

    when I first got the PS3, i have to admit I wasn’t a fan of the trophies, in fact most of the games i had 18 months back didn’t even have trophy support.

    It’s really only when I created the godless account that i started even paying attention to them.

    I’m not a trophy whore, and can’t be arsed / don’t have the time needed to try and get some of the trophies/achievements. but I do now try to get some of those that are doable on a normal playthrough.

    over the last year, I’d say I was more into trophies, but now having gone back onto live gold, and having got a few new games on the 360 it’s pretty much even.

    Roca
    Was HH a multiplatform Gamer?
    Did he play PS3 more than half the guys on here?

  52. phranctoast:

    While I will give MS credit for creating a unified reward system throughout all games, I think Sony did take that idea and make it a bit better with the Levels instead of simply an overall GS.

  53. Roca.:

    “Was HH a multiplatform Gamer?
    Did he play PS3 more than half the guys on here?”

    no, be he was just as blind as you 8)

    Also, Phranc ask which one you think is better, not which is getting you more achievements/trophies.

  54. CarlB:

    …after years of insistence by customers they finally implemented trophies. I think Wii U would also be better off with a form of them as well as 3DS.

  55. ncaissie:

    I was playing Mario 3DS on my daughters 3ds and I have to say is was awesome. It brought back memories.

  56. jojo29:

    Godless
    HappyHockum aka the dipshit was much worse than any fanboy here….m and him would go back and forth…usually endes up with me owning him and him disappearing…this was when this site was litteree with 360 fanbitches…
    Here are some of HH famous moments:
    -BR not needed and wont last against HDDvD…
    We all know how this endes but even after he admitted to rather buy a dual player than a ps3, going so far as to say his dual player had better PQ and more value than a ps3….myself, hidefdigest, and the absforums showed him otherwise with actual specs and comparisons…the only thing his player came out on top was it played 1 or 2 more.audio codecs..
    Then developers such as Rockstar, Square, Capcom, EA came out stating how BR is needed it was total ownage lol

    Phranc even made bets with him where he backed out of..

    WiFi not needed
    we all seen how this turned out…MS released a model with built in wifi…total ownage

    HDMI cable not needed for HD…
    Again we seen how this turned out..MS shafts its early adopters and releases a system with HDMI port

    RROD well within standard
    need i go on?

    Yearly sales
    he lost almost every bet he tried to say where the 360 outsells the PS3 yearly…he won only one year lol

    These are just some of the topics HH defended and looked completely stupid doing so calling us fanboys…lmao…it was him thay was the blind fanboy and i wish hed show his pathetic name again….just to.copy and paste the above and show him whays up

    Do not walk his path godless…i give you a tad more credit than.that piece of shit…just when you defend kinect and lack of exclusives and attack the company bringing you games…it makes me question your intelligence …

  57. Philistine:

    jojo
    “just when you defend kinect and lack of exclusives”

    I have never defended lack of exclusives

    My defence is based purely on the “despite this, its still worth owning a 360″ point of view

    The 360 needs more exclusives I agree.

    Should I not use my 360 because of this. .NO. .because it has a shit load of great games, and some of the best exclusives.

    As for kinect
    It is good at what it does, I have been surprised by how much fun it is, my kids now 8 & 10 love it and it’s good for them.

    I have liked some of the games way more than I thought I would.
    once you get over the “I’m standing up to play a game” thing. Games like The gun stringer are really good fun, and I’ve even started to play them on my own login
    Child of Eden is fantastic, Fruit ninja is funny as hell. and sports season 1 is a great family game, or one for when a mate calls round.
    Even Kinect adventures is way better than I thought it would be.

    I 100% agree that the Kinect is far from perfect, with still too much lag, and lack of accuracy to be used in hard core gaming in a way we would find acceptable and a genuine alternative to a handheld controller, but I am confident that this is the first major step in bringing this tech to hardcore gaming.

    I think there is real potential for Fable to make something that goes some way to bringing Kinect into an open world adventure, just depends on how well they implement it. Looks like starwars made an arse of it, I just hope Fable does it better.

  58. phranctoast:

    Maybe Ryse if it doesn’t get pushed to next gen.

  59. Roca.:

    “Looks like starwars made an arse of it, I just hope Fable does it better”

    Sorcery will show Microsoft how it’s done 8)

  60. CarlB:

    I watched the last Qore, it looks like they need to really clean up the targeting in Sorcery… as well as other things. Not much time left if they still intend on releasing it May 22.

  61. jojo29:

    Godless
    cool
    But no one has argued how well Kinect has been doing or is…i myself have admitted how much fun dance central is and how cool it is for menu navigation…
    As for some of the best exclusives? Maybe 3-4 years ago…with gears being the exception…i mean their franchises sell but unfortunately they compete in very crowded genres…Halo over BF or CoD or Crysis? Just like Killzone, Halo is a nice one week alternative….Fable i like, because i dig the art style very much….reviews have declined with eacg iteration…and now molymeux is gone…who knows though right? Forza competes against GT…Gears is the sole game that is unique, fresh and arguably at the top of its genre…and mark my words, Gears will go multiplat…Epic has numeroua times stated their unhappiness with MS forcing them to charge for DLC and LIVE being restricting their ability to allow mods…..

    But i digress, as long as you see Kinect is the cause of MS lack of exclusives your not as blind as i believe…but stop with the “x ps3 looks shitty” when MS nor Nintendo offer an alternative in x games genre…or when that same game hapoens to be at the top its genre which is pretty much 90% of ps3 exclusives.. ;)

  62. Roca.:

    You watch Star Wars in action ;)

    Sorcery seems like a more complete game and it’s done more in less time.

  63. ncaissie:

    “and how cool it is for menu navigation…”
    Umm, I am! The kinect menu is bullshit. Who in the hell wants to wave your hand and keep it till while waiting a few seconds for the stupid thing yo select the options. It’s just plain retarded.
    Yes I have one and no it doesn’t work in my livingroom. It’s to big and the furniture is laid out around the room not directly in front of the tv. The one couch is but it’s to far away for kinect to see people on it.
    And no way in hell the voice stuff would work with all the kids running around.

  64. CarlB:

    Kinect Star Wars was obviously a franchise cash in only, I supposed it worked as well as any other crappy franchise cash in does. I’m still hoping they’ll be able to clean Sorcery up with only 25 days… I’d hate to see Kung Fu Rider quality in a ARPG game, Move based or not. You’d think they would have been able to do it within the two years they’ve been working on it, but as long as they fix it I won’t be choosy. ;)

    Yes, Kinect needs space… fortunately I have a very large living room. The voice commands work fine with noise in the background.

  65. ncaissie:

    “Yes, Kinect needs space… fortunately I have a very large living room. The voice commands work fine with noise in the background.”
    I said Kinect doesn’t work in my large living room. Unless I stand in front of the tv. If I’m sitting in my chair I’m to far away for it.

  66. CarlB:

    It was spec’d to recognize you six to ten feet, and originally standing only. It shouldn’t be a surprise that it may not work if you are sitting down and outside the spec’d area.

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