Study: PS3 used more than Xbox 360 and Wii, users have higher income

May 1, 2012

Study: PS3 used more than Xbox 360 and Wii, users have higher incomeAn interesting study was released recently around video game console utilization. The study indicates that the PS3 is apparently the most utilized console out on the market currently beating out the competition.

According to a report put out by Strategy Analytics, surveys show that at least 44-percent of Sony’s PS3 owners use their console on a weekly basis. This is in comparison to Microsoft’s Xbox 360 which 40-percent of the user population actively use the system on a weekly basis. The Nintendo’s Wii console is apparently the least utilized with 30-percent.

This report comes weeks after Microsoft’s announcement that more people watch videos than play games on the Xbox 360 as the company gears the console as a home media center.

The firm does predict that the gaming industry will further fall into a slump this year, predicting a 19 percent drop by end of 2012. We have been seeing a steady decline in sales already this year and if the trend continues than the firm may be right.

Strategy Analytics also predicts that global Xbox 360 and PS3 sales will fall to 13.8 and 13 million by the end of this year, with Nintendo preparing its next gen console.

The firm also performed another study profiling the Sony brand by correlating households with Sony TVs with income levels. According to the firm’s ConsumerMetrix service report, nearly 20-percent of Sony TV owners in the US have an annual household income above $100,000, compared to 15.6-percent of all of the other TV owners.

The study also reveals that approximately 74-percent of Sony TV owners also own a digital set-top box, 24-percent own a PS3 and 20-percent own at least one Apple iPhone, all higher than other TV owning households. The firm concludes, that while the company may be facing some financial woes with its TV sector, its brand perception and user base remains healthy.

The full study can be purchased from the research firm for only $7,000.

101 Responses to “Study: PS3 used more than Xbox 360 and Wii, users have higher income”

  1. CarlB:

    Oh my. One fifth of one of the most expensive TV brands on the market are also owned by a small fraction of 5% of the U.S. population who earn over $100,000 per year. Shocking. Especially considering they are likely to have more than 3 television sets and one of them might happen to Sony branded.

    And quite an amusing article title implication to boot… “PS3 used more… users have higher income”

    The “study” fails to “reveal” the percentage that also owns a Wii or 360.

  2. twilight:

    With the direction that Microsoft is taking the Xbox360, I wouldn’t be surprised to see more people starting to use the Ps3 system more. The Xbox360 hardly has any exclusive titles and is full of ads with more incoming.

  3. Roca.:

    someone’s bored again…

  4. phranctoast:

    OT: Suggestion for new article.

    “http://ps3.ign.com/articles/122/1224105p1.html

    “A PlayStation email survey is currently making the rounds and asking some very interesting questions about PlayStation Plus — namely: How much would you pay for the subscription-based program if it included Call of Duty: Elite and free, new Blu-ray games?

    2010′s PlayStation Plus Walkthrough

    Submitted by IGN reader Bryan Findley, the survey tweaks a number of variables to see what a person’s perfect PlayStation Plus package would cost. Currently, PlayStation Plus can be purchased annually for $49.99 or in a three-month package for $17.99. It includes discounts, game trials and free PlayStation Network games and items. This survey pushes the free offerings, and price of the program, forward.

    The 15-minute survey presents a number of PlayStation Plus plans and asks users to choose the one they’d prefer the most — then, the next choice slightly modifies that pick to hone in on that user’s hypothetical plan. The most interesting variables include access to Call of Duty Elite and free newly released PS3 games (see: digital Blu-ray releases). Currently, free full games offered on PlayStation Plus are older titles.

    As you can see in the screenshot above, the perks vary greatly plan to plan and include the number of games added a year, the quality of the game and the percentage of the discount. However, the survey also tested the way people would pay for PlayStation Plus. Clearly the three-month and annual prices change based on what’s included, but the survey also offers a monthly option. Findley said that the survey included questions about committing to an annual subscription and then paying a monthly fee rather than the lump sum.

    We’ve reached out to PlayStation and Activision for comment on the survey. This article will be updated if they respond. Until then, what do you think? Does this survey point to the future of PlayStation Plus or is it just research? What would you pay for PlayStation Plus if it had new games and Elite? Let us know in the comments below. “”

  5. Roca.:

    I did this survey yesterday.

    It seems like Sony is planning to add a few things to PSN+ and charge more for it.

    There were like 15 different samples of PSN+ bundles, ranging from $49.99, $59.99 & $99.99.

  6. Roca.:

    @Phranc
    I know you have brought this up before.

    During the survey I was asked if I think online passes should be included for all PSN+ members…so maybe that’s something Sony is planning to do later on

  7. phranctoast:

    Can you link to the survey?

  8. Roca.:

    Opinions matter.

    Especially yours. By taking this brief survey, you’ll be providing us feedback to help us shape the future of our products and services. The survey is about 15 minutes long, and it’s simple, fast, and totally confidential. Best of all, for completing the survey, you’ll earn a chance to win a $50 PSN Card.

    Your feedback counts! Thank in advance for helping us make the PlayStation experience better.

    Sincerely,
    Playstation®Network

    https://www.springboardamerica.com/S.aspx?s=3584&r=c98EGILLvUafeEl1a8vKUg&o=D_8t_6dLe_&fromdetect=1

  9. phranctoast:

    The link states:

    “Your responses for this study have already been received, thank you.”

  10. CarlB:

    Ooops. Sorry. I went ahead and completed it. My top choice included 10 “A” rated new BR games per year for $49.99.

  11. Roca.:

    “Ooops. Sorry. I went ahead and completed it”

    lmao

  12. phranctoast:

    Since I don’t know their choices now… :( I could say I rather liked Carlb’s ideas from past threads where Sony would take on Gamespy, and offer a rental solution.

    I know I’d would pay $15-$20/month for subscription access to PSN video store.

  13. Roca.:

    “I know I’d would pay $15-$20/month for subscription access to PSN video store”

    same here. I’ll even $30 and ditch my cable/netflix/Hulu+ sub

  14. phranctoast:

    If Video unlimited did this it wouldn’t be completely useless.

  15. CarlB:

    “I’ll even $30″

    For $27.98 you can get unlimited streaming and 3 Blu-rays out at a time from Netflix.

  16. Ivan_PSP:

    Well PS3 has Blu-ray for awesome HD fanatics. A web browser cheap web browser for cheap people lol. We got a army of exclusives monthly. We have free online support. We have a bigger and older fan base since 1995.

  17. CarlB:

    And orbisvitanasne. A recent detailed study revealed that a small percentage of people who earn over $100,000 per year think it tastes great and is less filling.

  18. Roca.:

    Netflix doesn’t offer instant access to the lastest blockbuster movies and TV shows. I wouldn’t pay more than $10 for Netflix.

  19. CarlB:

    “Netflix doesn’t offer instant access to the lastest blockbuster movies and TV shows.”

    What latest “blockbuster movie” does PSN store have for rent that Netflix doesn’t already have available via disc subscription?

    With 3 Blu-ray discs out a time, especially if one lives in Cali, you can basically watch a BR a night if you desired, not counting what is on unlimited streaming. Unless you are a very extreme watcher, that would probably be more than enough. And of course, as you have already vehemently pointed out several times before, BR disc is superior in every way to downloads and streaming.

    Unless you have some sort of mysterious aversion to anything non-Sony branded, Netflix BR+DVD+Streaming subs are a very good deal… the best actually.

  20. Roca.:

    I said instant access, If I’m going to wait until the movie is mailed I’d rather just go to the closest BB and buy it.

    for the most part I watch movies with family (bro and gf) and friends so whenever we feel like watching any movie we want instant access to them.

    PSN does have the lastest movies for rent. 30 days before Netflix for some.

    Yes BD are superior and that’s why I still buy them…(also, buy/renting for Vudu, Amazon or PSN still gives you a superior picture quality than Netflix, not to mention a greater selection of current movies)

    If you care about having instant access to the leastest movies and TV. Netflix is nowhere near the best.

  21. CarlB:

    Besides, on PSN Store you can’t even rent Game of Thrones, and a typical movie rental such as Cowboys and Aliens costs as much as $6. This compared to about a dollar per movie for disc rentals through Netflix, or even a $1.62 via Redbox.

  22. CarlB:

    If you have three rentals out at a time, you basically have a BR every night and don’t have to wait for the mail, they have fast shipping.

    I just checked the movies and shows available for rental on PSN Store, and it is not as good a selection as what you can get via a Netflix disc sub.

    Unless you watch some insane amount of movies all day every day (Netflix goes up to 8 Blu-ray discs out at a time), don’t have the mental capacity to plan, communicate with friends and family, or pick off a list of what is currently available, there is no good reason to pay 6 times as much for a lesser selection on PSN.

    PSN does not have all the latest movies for rent, it has them for sale. Any significant movies it does have for rent are already available via Netflix disc subscription.

  23. phranctoast:

    I had issues with their mail service. They purposely delay your discs being mailed out if you use it too much. I’ve had wrong discs mailed to me. I’ve had the second season of a show mailed to me prior to the first even though it wasn’t set up that way. I’ve had scratched and broken discs mailed to me. The service just sucks.

    “What latest “blockbuster movie” does PSN store have for rent that Netflix doesn’t already have available via disc subscription? ”

    I’m pretty sure Netflix delays new releases for a month.

    PSN has no similar restrictions.

  24. Roca.:

    “typical movie rental such as Cowboys and Aliens costs as much as $6″

    I bought it on BB for $9.99 a while ago. Great movie btw.

    “don’t have the mental capacity to plan, communicate with friends and family”

    seems like my comment hit one of your nerve. Sorry but I don’t like being limited to shitty movie selection and go through all the hassle of waiting and mailing back BD movies.

    seems like 4K res will be the norm in a few years and that means over 100GB just for video (more if you add audio and all the extra bells and whistles) which is why physical disc will remain being the best available option for movie content.

  25. CarlB:

    Haven’t had any of those problems. I even lost a couple of discs over the years and they didn’t charge me anything. I remember someone telling me you couldn’t really scratch a BR disc to where it was unplayable. Guess that changed.

    I don’t see anything for rent on PSN store that isn’t available via Netflix disc sub. I do so see things available via Netflix disc sub that aren’t on PSN store for rent. They are advertising today The Sitter as being available before Netflix, but it is available on Netflix.

    Some of the latest, most popular shows such as Game of Thrones are available for rent via Netflix disc sub and not for rent on PSN store. They are also advertising The Grey as “see it before Netflix” but that’s only if you want to pay $20 to own it, as renting it isn’t an option. Same for Underworld Awakening advertised as before DVD, renting is not an option.

    I thought their 99 cent rentals might be interesting, until I saw there was only six no name movies available, and only in SD for that price, $1.99 for HD.

    I thought their $5 to own movies might be interesting, until I again saw the limited selection, that $5 was for SD only, and several of the movies were already available on Netflix streaming in higher definition.

    PSN store has a long way to go (especially in pricing) before it becomes a value. $6 rentals just aren’t that great a deal. Redbox and Netflix are both better options.

    I’m looking at Underworld Awakening and True Blood Season 4 both available for the same date they release on DVD this month. I think only a few movies are delayed. Even so, it’s no big deal to wait a month instead of paying 500% more to indulge some kind of instant gratification impulse.

  26. phranctoast:

    Prices for PSN Videos, and On Demand need to come down to reasonable number. $6 is Blockbuster prices, and redbox is kicking their ass.

  27. CarlB:

    “shitty movie selection and go through all the hassle of waiting and mailing back BD movies.”

    Their rental selection is better than PSN Store’s, so you must think the PSN store selection is really shitty.

    “all the hassle” of walking to your mailbox? Are you a shut-in or something? Again, the wait isn’t that long, while the amount of discs you can have at once and the amount of money you save more than makes up for it.

  28. phranctoast:

    “Haven’t had any of those problems. I even lost a couple of discs over the years and they didn’t charge me anything. I remember someone telling me you couldn’t really scratch a BR disc to where it was unplayable. Guess that changed. ”

    You could scratch a DVD, and the service is old enough that… guess what…It was a DVD.

    I had two out at a time, and it equated to two movies a week if I watched the movie the same day and mailed it the next day. I can’t see how three out at a time would somehow get you a movie everyday. Sounds more like it would be three a week if the pattern repats itself.

    “PSN store has a long way to go (especially in pricing) before it becomes a value. $6 rentals just aren’t that great a deal. Redbox and Netflix are both better options. ”

    It does have a long way to go, and buying movies on the service just needs to go. Digital should be a rental only service.

  29. CarlB:

    If you really “can’t wait” though, Blockbuster could be an even better deal, as they have the store, mail subscription, and games included in their monthly membership, with “Many new releases available 28 days before Netflix and Redbox.”

    Plus they have a 30 day free trial right now for 3 discs at a time, $20 a month after. Though it might be an over-burdening “hassle” to both walk to and from the mailbox and occasionally the store for some.

    http://www.blockbuster.com/

  30. Roca.:

    “Their rental selection is better than PSN Store’s”

    Not it’s not…let me know when Netflix offers instant renting available for download/stream like Amazon, Vudu, CinemaNow, PSN Video Store, Video Unlimited, etc.

  31. CarlB:

    “Digital should be a rental only service.”

    Why? Some people are going to want to fill up their nasne’s with movies they own you know. I’m not one of them, but I don’t want begrudge them, or take a viable stream of revenue away from Sony.

  32. Roca.:

    “Though it might be an over-burdening “hassle” to both walk to and from the mailbox and occasionally the store for some”

    it’s when many other services offer instant (hassle free) renting. I’ve done the whole rent by mail thing and I’m done with it now. Vudu is now offering instant & unlimited streaming access to my physical disc purchase for just $2.

  33. phranctoast:

    “Why? ”

    Price, Storage, you physically don’t own anything……..

    Peace of mind is less of an issue with cloud storage though.

  34. CarlB:

    “Not it’s not”

    Yes. It is.

    Amazon, Vudu, CinemaNow, Video Unlimited “etc.” are not the PSN Store video service, which is what we were talking about, not apps available via the PSN Store.

    And we were talking about the selection available to rent (not buy) compared to Netflix disc rental sub selection, not it’s streaming service alone.

    But even if you wanted to combine all those apps together, and even if they did have a better selection combined, you would still be paying 500% or more per rental on average than Redbox, Blockbuster, or Netflix disc rentals.

  35. phranctoast:

    Carlb…

    Are you retarded or something?

  36. CarlB:

    The price won’t stay the same if people aren’t willing to pay for it. As long as enough people are for Sony to profit, then they have every right to keep the prices as they are. And regardless of what I’ve said here, the same goes for the PSN video store as a whole.

    If there is enough Roca’s out there who need to satisfy their instant gratification impulse and are more than willing to pay 500% more for it than average existing prices for the same content, then so be it. Same with XBLG. I won’t necessarily join the that herd, but I won’t begrudge them either.

    Storage I think will become less and less of an issue as time goes on, and you can already store an unlimited amount on the PSN Store “cloud” as long as you are willing to download it again.

    Physical ownership I think is largely a silly psychological artifact. People will get used to ownership of digital movies just as they got used to ownership of digital music.

  37. CarlB:

    Are you?

  38. Roca.:

    “Amazon, Vudu, CinemaNow, Video Unlimited “etc.” are not the PSN Store video service, which is what we were talking about, not apps available via the PSN Store”

    I never said I use the PSN exclusively for video rental, did I?

    and Phran and I were talking about a potential PSN video store sub-based streaming service…no one said anything about “renting”

    “you would still be paying 500% or more per rental”

    1000% less hassle and more instant access.

  39. phranctoast:

    I can at least read.

  40. phranctoast:

    Seriously. Sometimes your the most difficult thick headed asshole.

    We’re hypothetically speaking of what we would spend on for PSN.

    For $30/month I’d take a PSN service with new movies over 3 discs at a time for Netflix with new movies.

    Where does the $6 come from?

  41. phranctoast:

    This conversation was over after this post.

    http://gamer.blorge.com/2012/05/01/study-ps3-used-more-than-xbox-360-and-wii-users-have-higher-income/#comment-187092

  42. CarlB:

    “I never said I use the PSN exclusively for video rental, did I?”

    No, but you did quote phranc as saying:

    “’I know I’d would pay $15-$20/month for subscription access to PSN VIDEO STORE’”

    and state:

    “same here. I’ll even $30 and ditch my cable/netflix/HULU+ SUB”

    In spite of your sentence fragment, this could reasonably be interpreted as you would be willing to pay a subscription fee for the type of selection currently available on the “PSN VIDEO STORE” alone, without separate apps and services such as a “HULU+ SUB”.

    “and Phran and I were talking about a potential PSN video store sub-based streaming service…no one said anything about ‘renting’”

    A “sub-based streaming service” is a form of “renting”. If you meant a hypothetical imaginary combination of all video apps and services that are currently available for PS3 in addition to the type of selection that is regularly available on the PSN Video Store now, then perhaps one or both of you should have mentioned that small tidbit of information in the beginning comments.

    “Where does the $6 come from?”

    I was just looking at releases such as Haywire, Aliens vs. Cowboys, etc. They are $5.99 per rental.

  43. Philistine:

    Carl

    Your debating against the fanatical PS3 religious here.

    You will never be able to prove you point, as reasoning doesn’t play a part in any religion, Especially PS3ism it would appear.

  44. CarlB:

    I guess you don’t consider Game of Thrones a blockbuster TV show? And we already know Roca would pay ridiculous premiums for anything affiliated with Sony.

  45. CarlB:

    I’m beginning to see that Phil. I like my PS3, but this is ridiculous.

  46. phranctoast:

    This has nothing to do with fanaticism. It’s actually really simple.

    We’re talking about what we’d spend for a subscription service to the PSN video store. make Zune movies if you want. Same fuckin concept.

    How that translates into Netflix is a better option, when in truth you have to wait around for the movies to get to you, and in no way in hell do you get a disc per day, is beyond me.

  47. phranctoast:

    “I was just looking at releases such as Haywire, Aliens vs. Cowboys, etc. They are $5.99 per rental.”

    Oh.. so it’s unrelated to the topic at hand. Gotcha.

  48. Roca.:

    My opinion have nothing to do with Sony. In fact I have never supported Sony’s video store. I’ve stated many times that Vudu is a superior service for renting/buying digital movies. I’ve also stated that I buy mostly from Amazon and BB, and not from the PSN video store.

    When you guys have nothing else to say you try to pull the fanboy card into every debate… Pathetic

  49. phranctoast:

    On top of that, You may be waiting months to get anything new.

    My trick was to mail back on Friday, for the Tuesday release and that worked for a little while. Then it stopped working, and I was on waiting lists for months for new popular movies.

    I left when they made a deal with studios to hold back the movies for a month. If they no longer applies that’s at least one less negative thing netflix mail has going for it.

  50. Roca.:

    ” We’re talking about what we’d spend for a subscription service to the PSN video store. make Zune movies if you want. Same fuckin concept.”

    Exactly. It was all about the content selection, not the service provider.

  51. CarlB:

    Now now. Remember, not “PSN video store” but “potential” PSN video store which includes Amazon, Vudu, CinemaNow, Video Unlimited “etc.”… but perhaps not Netflix.

    lol

    The current PSN Video store, Amazon, “etc.” will charge you up to $6 per rental for the same content you can find as part of a library on Netflix streaming at $8/mo. How anyone could see paying the same price for three rentals on PSN store as you would for Blu-ray and unlimited Netflix streaming as a “better option” is beyond me.

    But then again I have the unique, superhuman planning capability and extreme discipline of being able to wait a few days for some content while watching other content that also interests me.

  52. CarlB:

    “I was on waiting lists for months for new popular movies.”

    I don’t know how long ago you subscribed, but nothing even remotely close to this has happened while I was subscribed before and after my deployments. Not to say it didn’t happen, and if it did to me I would share your opinion, it simply hasn’t. If it does I will likely switch to Blockbuster. If that doesn’t work either I’ll just go back to Redbox.

  53. Roca.:

    “Carlb…

    Are you retarded or something?”

    I think so

    who said anything about including Amazon, Vudu, CinemaNow, Video Unlimited in the “potential” sub based service for the PSN Video store.

    You are just grasping for straws now.
    be a clown and pull the fanboy card again.

  54. phranctoast:

    “Now now. Remember, not “PSN video store” but “potential” PSN video store which includes Amazon, Vudu, CinemaNow, Video Unlimited “etc.”… but perhaps not Netflix.”

    He didn’t say that. He said “Like” that.

    “The current PSN Video store, Amazon, “etc.” will charge you up to $6 per rental for the same content you can find as part of a library on Netflix streaming at $8/mo. How anyone could see paying the same price for three rentals on PSN store as you would for Blu-ray and unlimited Netflix streaming as a “better option” is beyond me. ”

    Once again. For the slow people here. We’re talking about the hypothetical PSN sub and what we’d pay for it. Bringing up $6 rentals is 100% completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.

  55. CarlB:

    I’ve been receiving emails from Netflix since I started my disc sub again, and as in the past, the turnaround is rather quick (1 at a time + unlimited streaming):

    Thu Apr 26: Netflix Rcv’d Anonymous
    Fri Apr 27: I rcv’d Game of Thrones ep 1
    Mon Apr 30: Netflix rcv’d GoT ep 1
    Tue May 1: I rcv’d GoT ep 2
    Thu May 3: Netflix rcv’d Got ep 2 (5:53 AM)

  56. phranctoast:

    “I don’t know how long ago you subscribed, but nothing even remotely close to this has happened while I was subscribed before and after my deployments. Not to say it didn’t happen, and if it did to me I would share your opinion, it simply hasn’t. If it does I will likely switch to Blockbuster. If that doesn’t work either I’ll just go back to Redbox.”

    I ditched the service when they raised the price of Blu Ray discs rentals. At the same time new releases were going to be held back a month.

    In my experience, if you didn’t get the movie on the day it released (which took coordination and luck), you could be waiting up to two months for popular/new movies.

  57. phranctoast:

    “Thu Apr 26: Netflix Rcv’d Anonymous
    Fri Apr 27: I rcv’d Game of Thrones ep 1
    Mon Apr 30: Netflix rcv’d GoT ep 1
    Tue May 1: I rcv’d GoT ep 2
    Thu May 3: Netflix rcv’d Got ep 2 (5:53 AM)”

    Each episode is on it’s own disc?

  58. CarlB:

    “who said anything about including Amazon, Vudu, CinemaNow, Video Unlimited in the “potential” sub based service for the PSN Video store.”

    You implied it when you quoted me as saying:

    “Their rental selection is better than PSN Store’s”

    Then stated:

    “Not it’s not…let me know when Netflix offers instant renting available for download/stream like Amazon, Vudu, CinemaNow, PSN Video Store, Video Unlimited, etc.”

    instead of just sticking with the PSN store video content as is now. One hypothetical service which had an equivalent of all that content for a reasonable fee would be wonderful. Wishful thinking, but great. It doesn’t exist, and if they can’t even lower individual new rental prices from where they are now, it probably never will. If it does, it will likely be extremely limited or high priced to maximize studio profit.

    It’s a nice pipe dream though. For the slow people.

  59. CarlB:

    Sorry, I meant disc 1 and disc 2 not ep 1 and 2.

  60. phranctoast:

    “One hypothetical service which had an equivalent of all that content for a reasonable fee would be wonderful.”

    Thank god we’re finally on the same page. Geeze that took a long time.

  61. Roca.:

    @Carl
    I didn’t imply anything other than letting you know all those services offer you instant access for movie rentals.

    …lets just be childish for a second and play the same game you normally play….

    Carl – “Sorry, I meant disc 1 and disc 2 not ep 1 and 2″

    but…but..you implied each episode is on it’s own disc when you said this

    “Mon Apr 30: Netflix rcv’d GoT ep 1
    Tue May 1: I rcv’d GoT ep 2″

    I think it’s clear that Phranc and I are fans of having great selection of content & quick access to the latest movies and TV shows no matter what service they come from (could be fron Amazon, Netflix, PSN, Vudu, physical, etc) while Carl is just a delusional Netflix fanboy.

  62. phranctoast:

    anyway.

    I’ve been playing around with Amazon Instant Video (prime) vs Netflix streaming.

    Some content available on Netflix is not available on AIV, and vice versa.
    The Video quality is better in AIV.
    Some content in SD is in HD on AIV, and vice versa.
    I prefer the aesthetics of AIV but prefer the format of Netflix for convenience.

  63. CarlB:

    “’I know I’d would pay $15-$20/month for subscription access to PSN VIDEO STORE’”

    Yes. Including insignificant little words like “hypothetical” and “content like Amazon, Vudu, Hulu+, etc.” of simply “subscription access to PSN VIDEO STORE” could have saved oodles of time. Accuracy helps.

  64. CarlB:

    “but…but..you implied”

    The difference is I politely apologized and admitted my own mistake in communication instead of dragging out a conversation needlessly.

    “Carl is just a delusional Netflix fanboy.”

    What part of “Blockbuster could be an even better deal, as they have the store, mail subscription, and games included in their monthly membership, with ‘Many new releases available 28 days before Netflix and Redbox.’” could you not comprehend?

    “Some content available on Netflix is not available on AIV”

    Anything good? I’d be interested in taking advantage of it.

  65. phranctoast:

    “Yes. Including insignificant little words like “hypothetical””

    Since PSN doesn’t offer a subscription service, hypothetical is redundant but obviously necessary as you didn’t seem to get it. :)

  66. phranctoast:

    “Anything good? I’d be interested in taking advantage of it.”

    NYPD Blue is available on AIV but not Netflix.

    Supernatral is available on Netflix but only available to purchase individually on AIV.

    Same thing with Being Human.

  67. Roca.:

    “dragging out a conversation needlessly”

    thanks for pointing out exactly what you’ve been doing for the past 7 hours.

  68. phranctoast:

    “dragging out a conversation needlessly”

    LOL. I linked to where this should have ended. :D

  69. CarlB:

    If I was a mind reader. You two are already attached at the hip so the mind meld you share is understandable.

    Didn’t know about NYPD Blue… I already knew Netflix has a ton that’s not available on AIV unless you want to pay extra, but have you run across anything else worth mentioning that’s not on Netflix but on AIV?

  70. ncaissie:

    “What part of “Blockbuster could be an even better deal, as they have the store, mail subscription, and games included in their monthly membership, with ‘Many new releases available 28 days before Netflix and Redbox.’” could you not comprehend?”

    Blockbuster went out of business here. They couldn’t compete with Rogers.

  71. ncaissie:

    “thanks for pointing out exactly what you’ve been doing for the past 7 hours.”
    You mean 2-3 years?

  72. twilight:

    I only use Netflix’s streaming service only. I don’t use the physical disc service of Netflix because it’s not worth the hassle of dealing with scratched/filthy discs and Netflix not having the movies I want to see available anyways. I would rather just buy movies on blu ray disc or digital copies of movies off Vudu or Amazon or something.

  73. Roca.:

    “LOL. I linked to where this should have ended. :D”

    Yes you did 8)

  74. phranctoast:

    “If I was a mind reader. You two are already attached at the hip so the mind meld you share is understandable. ”

    Or if you had a basic handle on reading comprehension.

    “and “content like Amazon, Vudu, Hulu+, etc.” of simply “subscription access to PSN VIDEO STORE” could have saved oodles of time. Accuracy helps.”

    There’s your other misunderstanding. That was a comparison to netflix streaming, and not a combination of services into one big perfect service…

    You said: “Their rental selection is better than PSN Store’s”

    He Said: “Not it’s not…let me know when Netflix offers instant renting available for download/stream like Amazon, Vudu, CinemaNow, PSN Video Store, Video Unlimited, etc.”

    I don’t think you need to be a mind reader to interpret he’s clearly talking about netflixs streaming service in comparison to these other services which also afford you the ability to download newer movies on a movie per movie basis.

    “Didn’t know about NYPD Blue… I already knew Netflix has a ton that’s not available on AIV unless you want to pay extra, but have you run across anything else worth mentioning that’s not on Netflix but on AIV?”

    I’ll have to double check.

  75. CarlB:

    The conversation as stated at the beginning started with nothing more but subscription access to “THE PSN VIDEO STORE” alone. You meant something else, as you stated much later. It’s okay.

  76. phranctoast:

    “You meant something else, as you stated much later. It’s okay.”

    No I didn’t, and where?

  77. Roca.:

    phranctoast:
    May 3rd, 2012
    “This conversation was over after this post.”

    http://gamer.blorge.com/2012/05/01/study-ps3-used-more-than-xbox-360-and-wii-users-have-higher-income/#comment-187092

    someone’s still “dragging out a conversation needlessly”

  78. CarlB:

    When you said “hypothetical”.

    This is why they put out surveys with umpteen different plan options you would prefer for subscription based services.

    Apologies, but I thought when you stated “hypothetical” after everything from a better content selection with other services and instant streaming without downloads meant you would like the same or similar from the “hypothetical” PSN Video Store.

  79. CarlB:

    Roca, if you have something significant to add, change, or contribute to the conversation, you are welcome to do so, or otherwise leave.

  80. Roca.:

    I already made my point a while (hint – click the link) there’s nothing else to add, change, or contribute.

  81. Roca.:

    while ago*

  82. dans:

    Why must every discussion on here devolve into semantics and misunderstandings?

  83. phranctoast:

    When I said this

    “I know I’d would pay $15-$20/month for subscription access to PSN video store.”

    I thought it registered as hypothetical, as this does not exist at this time.

    I would like better content and streaming without downloads would be preferable, but as PSN is right now, I’d pay additionally (15-20) if I can access everything it had under a subscription.

  84. phranctoast:

    I was hoping Video Unlimited would be Sony’s answer but alas….It’s rather limited……

  85. CarlB:

    “if I can access everything it had under a subscription.”

    Barring unlimited access (doubtful considering current price structure), or as much as you could possibly want or be able to consume per month, what would be the lowest amount of content acceptable to you for $20/mo?

    In other words you could access everything as is now (including 24 hour restriction per download), but you were only limited to a certain amount of downloads per month. What would be the lowest acceptable amount of downloads to you for $20/mo?

  86. CarlB:

    At current pricing of $6 per HD movie and staying within $20/mo, it would be 3 – 4 24 hour movie rental downloads per month, or at $3 per episode, 6-7 tv episode rental downloads per month.

  87. phranctoast:

    Never really thought of it that way, so It’s difficult to come up with an acceptable number. I’d like to not have any timed restrictions, but if only one per 24 hours is how it would be….maybe 30…
    Such limitations puts the idea in a bad light and makes getting the physical discs from netflix more acceptable though.

    Now if Netflix streaming (and others) offered movies and shows that while being older than “new releases”… say maybe 3 months old, I’d also pay $20 for that unlimited access.

    I’d step that up to $30 for new releases.

    That should about where the number should be I feel. At this time I do not spend that much on movies/shows (other than fios sub) in any given month so it sounds like it would be an acceptable price.

  88. CarlB:

    That’s a good idea. As I understand it, the studios are putting Netflix in a hurt locker by continuously hiking the prices every year for their content, so Netflix barely makes any profit with their streaming service now as it is.

    A $20 option over their $8 plan could offset the price of “newish” content, but only if studios were willing to work with them on it. It doesn’t seem like they particularly care for the “unlimited” access to their content concept, unless it’s at the prices they set already. Netflix would probably go for $20/mo if feasible, however the studios pricing would probably dictate $60/mo or more at least. It might also hurt studios current profit margin on DVD’s and BR’s even more.

  89. phranctoast:

    “Netflix would probably go for $20/mo if feasible, however the studios pricing would probably dictate $60/mo or more at least. It might also hurt studios current profit margin on DVD’s and BR’s even more.”

    They came up with an acceptable pricing structure for music, and it appears to be $10/month for unlimited access.

    Music unlimited is currently doing that, I that seems more than acceptable, as when I used Rhapsody I paid more and that was more limited than MU (no pun intended).

    Maybe something similar could be achieved with movies/shows.

  90. CarlB:

    I think the music plan is priced so cheaply because it faces stiff competition from several very popular/convenient free sources such as Pandora, Last.fm, etc. While there are free video services, I don’t think they are as ubiquitous or wide ranging as the music ones. Perhaps if/when that happens we’ll see similar competitive pricing.

  91. ncaissie:

    “At current pricing of $6 per HD movie and staying within $20/mo, it would be 3 – 4 24 hour movie rental downloads per month, or at $3 per episode, 6-7 tv episode rental downloads per month.”
    Exactly why ondemand and services like Netflix streaming is so limited and older movies and shows.

  92. phranctoast:

    “Exactly why ondemand and services like Netflix streaming is so limited and older movies and shows.”

    And as CB pointed out, Netflix is taking it hard from the studios.

  93. Roca.:

    “And as CB pointed out, Netflix is taking it hard from the studios”

    Cable companies

  94. Roca.:

    *and from* cable companies

  95. phranctoast:

    “I think the music plan is priced so cheaply because it faces stiff competition from several very popular/convenient free sources such as Pandora, Last.fm, etc. ”

    That and the ease of pirating.

  96. CarlB:

    A nice side effect.

  97. Barnabe Jones:

    What’s up jackwagons!

    anyone see the Avengers? OMGWTFBBQ!!!!

    I’ll do you guys a solid… or two.

    1. Today is free comic book day. Check the site below to find a participating store near you.

    http://www.freecomicbookday.com/Home/1/1/27/992

    2. Marvel posted 5 free digital Avengers comics.

    http://marvel.com/news/story/18674/unlimited_highlights_avengers

    You’re welcome! Anywho since 2012′s game selection has been shit, I’ve moved attention to comics. Excelsior!

  98. Barnabe Jones:

    What’s up jackwagons!

    anyone see the Avengers? OMGWTFBBQ!!!!

    I’ll do you guys a solid… or two.

    1. Today is free comic book day. Check the site below to find a participating store near you.

    http://www.freecomicbookday.com/Home/1/1/27/992

  99. Barnabe Jones:

    2. Marvel posted 5 free digital Avengers comics.

    http://marvel.com/news/story/18674/unlimited_highlights_avengers

    You’re welcome! Anywho since 2012?s game selection has been shit, I’ve moved attention to comics. Excelsior!

  100. Barnabe Jones:

    “Your comment is awaiting moderation.”

    Really? You have no problems giving people viruses, but posting two smiley’s or two links is not allowed? ;)

  101. Roca.:

    ^ LMAO

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