THQ auction recap: Dead Island publisher buys Saints Row and Metro, Crytek picks up Homefront, Sega acquires Warhammer studio and more
It was indeed a sad day today as bits and pieces of THQ were sold off at an auction to the highest bidder. The publisher’s goal of keeping all of its studios intact were crushed as creditors clamored for THQ to be sold in pieces to maximize return on the now defunct publishing giant.
The most surprising news out of the auction was the announcement that Koch Media, parent company to Deep Silver acquired Volition and the Saints Row IP from THQ for $22.3 million. For those of you that don’t know, Deep Silver is Dead Island’s publisher.
Koch Media also picked up the Metro series for $5.8 million. The game will continue to be developed by third party Ukraine-based studio, 4A Games. Volition is currently working on Saints Row 4 and 4A Games is nearly done with Metro: Last Light which had a release date for March 2013. While there is no announcement if these titles will be delayed, its looking like the release date may hold.
Take-Two has acquired new IP ‘Evolve’ from THQ, currently being developed by Turtle Rock, co-developer of the Left 4 Dead series. Interestingly enough, Turtle Rock had put in a $250k bid to purchase the Evolve license, but was vastly out-bided by Take-Two when the publishing giant dolled out $10.8 million for the IP.
While there is no information on Evolve other than that it’s a co-op shooter, the new IP must have immensely impressed the likes of Take-Two in order for it to shell out over $10 million on an unproven license.
Sega has stepped up to acquire Relic studios, the same folks that brought you Warhammer 40k and is currently working on RTS title, Company of Heroes 2. Sega apparently paid $26 million for the developer and its IPs. Oddly enough, I find the Warhammer series being a nice fit with Sega.
Crytek has revealed that the studio has picked up the IP to Homefront for an estimated price of $500k (unverified), a franchise the developer has been working on. Homefront 2 is currently under development by Crytek on the CryENGINE.
While the Homefront IP is probably not all that appealing if judging off the first game, more than likely Crytek wanted to make good on all of its development cycles spent on Homefront 2.
Ubisoft also got in on the action when the publisher picked up THQ Montreal along with a new IP, Underdog and 1666 doe $2.5 million. The publisher also picked up the South Park: Stick of Truth IP for$3.3 million. However, according to reports South Park Studios is planning on fighting to take control of the Stick of Truth IP.
Lastly, there was some sad news revealed after the auction that the developers of Darksiders, Vigil studios was left without any bidders. THQ revealed that steps will be taken to layoff resources immediately.
However, there was some good news as Platinum Game’s head, Atsushi Inaba tweeted that he was interested in the studio and the Darksiders IP as long as he can get it on the cheap.
He tweeted:
"In THQ studio and IP selling off auction, Darksiders is unsold? [We] wanna buy it…on the cheap…"
There may still be hope yet for Vigil and its staff.
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January 24th, 2013
That’s a real shame about Vigil. Just started playing Darksiders, and I’m loving it so far. Oddly enough one the levels I just completed, I already played in the ‘released long ass demo’ where you kill Tiamot at the end.
I had a lot easier of a time doing this the second time..lol
Hopefully Platinum Games does buy the Darksiders IP, but please, for the love of all these holy, don’t make the sequel a Wii U exclusive……..
January 24th, 2013
Hopefully Saints Row 4 wont be a fuck up like the 3rd one was. Now that its under new management, I CAN hope.
Im also glad to see Homefront is in better hands. Its such a great idea and game, but it was half-assed by THQ.
Yes, its a “sad” day, but its also a very bright one.
January 24th, 2013
Whoa MAK, you didn’t like Saints Row the Third??? That was the best one, and the most highly rated… major improvements all throughout.
Yeah it was mental, but that’s kind of the point of the series: a parody game of a pseudo-parody game.
January 24th, 2013
Toy agree with Bird. Saints Row 3 was the best one and one of the best open world games this gen. Most critics agree so I hope it stays in the same hands.
January 24th, 2013
I remember testing a wrestling game for THQ. Kind of sad to see them dissipate like this…
January 24th, 2013
@Capt
@Oldschool
I’m not saying the game was “bad”, it was just worse than the second in my opinion.
However, this is my preference, so don’t hold it to me.
Saints Row 2 was similar to GTA.
Saints Row 3 changed their whole style and made it cartoony and I hate it.
It’s not the same anymore. I couldn’t even remake the character I made. I even entered the same exact numbers when changing the character and it wasn’t even close.
I just wasn’t happy with all the changes. All they had to do was make a sequel, make the graphics more HD, make a better story,etc…but nope, they changed the whole style too.
January 25th, 2013
Yeah they did change the style. I like the changes, such as real motion blur, weapon improvements, *slightly* better customization and a much more developed story.
But I agree with the lampoon-ish, cartoony vibe of it. I don’t know, I guess that added to the charm for me though.
Dat first mission… lmao
January 25th, 2013
Mak was beat by a giant purple dildo one too many times
January 25th, 2013
http://mashable.com/2013/01/23/unlocking-cellphones-illegal/
January 25th, 2013
@Capt
The new style of the game is an improvement for some parts of the game, I agree. But as a whole, I just like it that much.
Plus, I have the game on 360. Playing that game with the 360 controller makes my experience 25% worse.
If I had the game on PS3, I’d actually try playing it again. It’s stupid reason, but it’s true.
@phrac
Wow. You’re so dumb…..It was a giant turquoise dildo!!! LAMO
@roca
So does this mean Jailbreaking is illegal too? Or it’s simply illegal to unlock it? I’m not sure if they are the same thing.
According to the article, it’s illegal to unlock it so you don’t have to pay the carrier. It says nothing about unlocking the entire OS aka jail breaking.
January 25th, 2013
“Playing that game with the 360 controller makes my experience 25% worse.”
Lmao… that’s comedy.
The 360 controller seems to be built for one thing only, and that’s shooters (which they do a good job, but mostly for Gears, which I think suits it well). You can’t play fighters, racers, or anything that requires finesse on that thing. And before people bash me about that, I was a 360 gamer first and spent 2 1/2 years playing nothing but Xbox because I couldn’t afford a PS3 at the time. So I don’t doubt you had a bad experience with SR3 on 360… the d-pad on that thing out to be banned.
And that dildo was awesome… I was wrecking fools with that thing haha
January 25th, 2013
out= ought
January 27th, 2013
@MAK
Did you forget how to spell your name? Your avatar has MAC. LOL
January 27th, 2013
That didlo thing was just plain stupid. Very childish.
January 27th, 2013
@NCassie
I guess you either need glasses or a better screen. Oh, you cant afford one.
It has MAK. Idiot.
“That didlo thing was just plain stupid. Very childish.”
Tell Phranc that.
Driving a motorcycle is childish, if you want to go there.
January 27th, 2013
“That didlo thing was just plain stupid. Very childish”
Which is funny. Childish and immature humor can be funny. Beating people to death with a big floppy purple dildo is hilarious.
“Driving a motorcycle is childish, if you want to go there.”
Can children get a license for riding motorbikes now?
January 28th, 2013
Phranc makes stupid comment about dildo.
I counter the stupid comment with another stupid (yes, ncassie, it was dumb. But you’re missing the point) comment.
@oldie
16 year olds can get their license today. I consider them a child still at that age with the way they act.
But what I meant was: Motorcycles are something a reckless child would go for. We all know they aren’t safe at all, as we have learned last year. People in my family have died on a motorcycle too.
I like them for certain things, but in a certain light, they are just plain dumb.
January 28th, 2013
“16 year olds can get their license today. I consider them a child still at that age with the way they act”
Teenagers dude. You can get married at 16 and are considered legal. You can join the military at 16 (not deploy to 18 though).
January 28th, 2013
@Mak
I think you’re missing the point. My didlo comment was just a little jab at you made with nothing negative but jest as intent. You’ve mentioned me several times. Get over it..lol
Ncaissie is talking about the Dildo in the game as being dumb and childish from what I gather from his posts.
Oddly enough his feelings reflect CliffyB’s which I don’t know is a good thing or not…….
http://www.amazon.com/forum/video%20games?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B007M6W38W&cdForum=Fx1T1DM93QU4XL1&cdPage=1&cdThread=TxA8M7N7EM69GY
Anyway. Saints Row 3 has fun with itself by being over the top. Some people hate over the top.
January 28th, 2013
Still reminds me of the dildo on the car in Idiocracy. Juvenile to be sure, but still hilarious.
January 28th, 2013
LOL. And that ‘gladiator’ reminded me of Johnny Damon….
January 28th, 2013
@Phranc
@Ncassie
My Bad. You never know when people start trolling out of no where.
Ive had wise-cracks from Ncassie in the past for reason, I thought this was another one. My apologies.
@Oldschool
Okay? Doesnt change the fact that 16 year olds are childish.
Getting married at 16 or starting a family at that age is completely stupid (At least in the US). They allow it because it happens so much most likely.
In the US, many 16 year olds join the service because they are fuck ups and/or dont have any future. Once in a great while, there will be a determined teenager. But most of them do it because they are too lazy to work for a living. What im getting at is that is a childish decision.
Im not saying Joining the service is childish, im saying teenagers do it for the wrong reasons.
The point is, 16 year olds cant handle responsibility. They are very similar to children. Having laws regarding ages have a totally different purpose than the obvious theories.
January 28th, 2013
@Ncassie
I agree that the dildo in the game is stupid.
It was a funny little easter-egg in GTA San Adreas where you could find it in the Police Dept. Bathroom. Or in GTAIV, the dildo would be buried in dirt piles with it poking out.
But Saints Row took it to a different level. Its probably an advertisement strategy. “Hey kids, buy SR3 so you can slap your friends around with a giant purple dildo!” OH BOY!
January 28th, 2013
So is it purple or turquoise ?
January 28th, 2013
“Okay? Doesnt change the fact that 16 year olds are childish.”
Same as some 35 year olds are childish. Not all 16 year olds are childish. If every single 16 year old is childish then I would like a link.
“Getting married at 16 or starting a family at that age is completely stupid”
That’s your opinion.
“In the US, many 16 year olds join the service because they are fuck ups and/or dont have any future. Once in a great while, there will be a determined teenager. But most of them do it because they are too lazy to work for a living. What im getting at is that is a childish decision”
Joining the military is working for a living. In fact it’s harder than any civi street job you can think of. Nothing lazy about going to war. FYI I didn’t join because I was a fuck up, it’s what I always wanted to do, only students seem to think people with no future join the military. You a student?
“The point is, 16 year olds cant handle responsibility”
Link?
January 28th, 2013
@phranc
…Yes…
@oldschool
“That’s my opinion” (that it’s stupid to start a family at 16)
Link—> http://m.guardiannews.com/news/datablog/2013/jan/24/cost-to-raise-a-child-compared-to-decade-ago
Right there, buddy. NO FUCKING TEENAGER HAS A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS SAVED UP TO RAISE A CHILD, NOT TO MENTION, THEY STILL HAVE TO SUPPORT THEMSELVES.
It’s my opinion, don’t give me that bullshit.
Getting married and NOT having a kid at 16 is a childish rebel move made by teens oblivious to reality. Having kids is being reckless and irresponsible at that age, because it’s a guarantee it wasn’t planned.
Army/military:
Being in the service isn’t working for a living. It’s easier.
When you’re in the service, you have it made. It gets hard once you’re out and the economy smacks you in the face.
And FYI, I’m not talking about war. I’m talking about the millions of young idiots siting idle in their little bases fooling around doing nothing. There’s nothing hard about that.
Those kids will know nothing about having a responsibility of their job. They won’t know what it’s like to go under so much stress when your job demands a deadline for something. THAT right there is much harder than being in the service. Not to mention you have to pay bills and such, you’re not loitering on a base.
I’m not even taking about you. I’m talking about dumb kids from the US. I don’t know about you, but I actually went to Highschool. I also went to a career center. All the stupid fuck ups that I went to school with, all the kids with low grades who were lazy in their classes all signed up for the Navy/Army and a few to the military.
This one girl I know studied to be in the Air Force, then fucked up, and chose Navy. What a waste.
Yes, I AM a student. This is why I know more about what’s going on than you do.
“Link”
You want a link? Go outside and observe society. There’s your link. Watch tv, documentaries. Google shit. Pay attention to statistics among teens.
I wish I was given a link. There’s no “one stop shop” for this kind of information.
January 28th, 2013
“Right there, buddy. NO FUCKING TEENAGER HAS A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS SAVED UP TO RAISE A CHILD, NOT TO MENTION, THEY STILL HAVE TO SUPPORT THEMSELVES.
It’s my opinion, don’t give me that bullshit.”
No need to get angry kid, the reason you gave yas nothing about 16 year olds being too immature, just a money issue. You saying no 16 year old has ever raised a family?
“Being in the service isn’t working for a living. It’s easier.
When you’re in the service, you have it made. It gets hard once you’re out and the economy smacks you in the face.”
Speaking from experience or your arse? I left recently and life is a LOT easier now. That’s from experience. My time in the military was the most gruelling, stressful and most physically and mentally challenging time of my life and it made me a better man. Stop speaking out your arse kid.
“And FYI, I’m not talking about war. I’m talking about the millions of young idiots siting idle in their little bases fooling around doing nothing. There’s nothing hard about that”
Looks like you have no understanding of military life.
“They won’t know what it’s like to go under so much stress when your job demands a deadline for something.”
So military personel don’t have to meet impossible deadlines and expectations? Once again, speaking out your arse with no experience to back it up.
“THAT right there is much harder than being in the service.”
No it’s not. If you were speaking from experience then you’d have a point. I’ve been in the military and now I’m a full time employed civi. Military life is harder. Fact.
” I don’t know about you, but I actually went to Highschool.”
What you getting at, that I’m an uneducated hillbilly who joined the military because I was too stupid? Your hate for the military is now becoming apparent.
“Yes, I AM a student. This is why I know more about what’s going on than you do”
LMFAO! So fucking predictable. You student kids all think you know everything and act like you’re better than everyone else. Doesn’t it say something that I guessed you were a student judging by your attitude to people in the military? You don’t know more than me. I dont just sit in a class room reading books. I went to army college because my school grades were high and when I joined the infantry I went on a course to become full first aid trained, I now have the same level of training as a paramedic which I could of done when I left. I was even offered a position. So not only do I have education on my side I also have something you do not: life experience. I’ve done more than you ever will kid. I’ve not only managed military life, I’ve also successfully inter grated into civi street, I’m on a much higher pay than what I was in the army, I own my own house and brand new car and my mrs just found out she’s pregnant 2 weeks ago. So rethink your comment.
“You want a link? Go outside and observe society. There’s your link. Watch tv, documentaries. Google shit. Pay attention to statistics among teens.
I wish I was given a link. There’s no “one stop shop” for this kind of information.”
No link I see.
January 28th, 2013
@oldschool
Let me put this Being in the service thing into perspective for you:
Most of my life, I never knew what I wanted to be. It took me years to discover my hidden talent for Art, I wasn’t making art from the beginning.
Towards Highschool, I started to lose hope and motivation. I didn’t care anymore. I felt lost.
My goal was to join the Military and devote my entire life to the military. I wanted to be put in action, and I didn’t care if I were to die. I just didn’t care. The military, the thing YOU consider so hard, was MY EASY WAY OUT of life. I don’t care what kind of physical tasks would be thrown at me, it’s the mental tasks of life I didn’t want to face.
When I was 16, I finally changed. I grew up and decided that life had much more to offer for me. I got back on track and started to take art again.
Right there is a story/example that just about every teen goes through today. EXCEPT, unlike my peers, I actually didn’t give up on my dreams.
You’re not understanding that IF I did give up, I would be in the military right now. And you wouldn’t be able to say shit.
I’m not biased. I’ve been in both positions on my life.
January 28th, 2013
Lets not forget about Carl who done his full service as a Marine and now is a civi. Go on, ask him which is harder, civi life or military.
Civi life is hard if you’re a brain dead fuck who can’t find a decent paying job and lives off benefits.
January 28th, 2013
“was MY EASY WAY OUT of life. I don’t care what kind of physical tasks would be thrown at me, it’s the mental tasks of life I didn’t want to face.”
That’s just you being mentally weak. Once again you show no understanding of military life. You think it’s all physical, that’s not even half of it. It’s the mentality of it that pushes you. If you want an easy way out then just hang yourself instead of wasting the governments money on military funding. Fucked off with people complaining about how hard life is and going on about suicide. I lost a friend to suicide and I didn’t feel sorry for him, he was a weak fuck for taking the easy, pathetic way out. I felt sorry for his family. Oh and he put a rifle in his mouth because military life was too hard for him, he couldn’t face another deployment. I see you didn’t kill yourself in civi street even though you have suicidal tendencies, can’t be that hard then can it.
January 28th, 2013
@oldschool
The only reason why you’re arguing is being you THINK I hate the military. I don’t. I love it. And like I said, I was seriously planning on joining.
You have nothing on me, not even with all your…um….”experience”.
You’re the one talking out of your ass because YOU’RE FROM THE UK. YOU NEVER LIVED YOUR LIFE IN AN AMERICAN CITY AND YOU NEVER ENLISTED IN THE UNITED STATES SERVICE.
And that fact that you’re in a different generation says alot.
All your hardships you say you experienced in the service are nothing to me. That’s something I would enjoy.
January 28th, 2013
@oldschool
When I said “easy way out”, I was NOT talking about suicide. Lol. Another made up conclusion.
January 28th, 2013
“YOU NEVER ENLISTED IN THE UNITED STATES SERVICE.”
Erm, the British Army have the best trained army in the world. It’s fact, look it up. Our infantry trains longer than the US Marines, our Marines train longer than the Us Special Forces. Our SAS are the envy of the world. Do some research dude. Even Carl backed me up on this. The Americans are the best equipped, not trained. We dot have their equipment so our training is A LOT harder and longer.
“YOU’RE FROM THE UK. YOU NEVER LIVED YOUR LIFE IN AN AMERICAN CITY”
Because our cities are all sunshine and lollipops. My dad was murdered a week before Christmas you prick. Yeah, our streets are great.
“You have nothing on me, not even with all your…um….”experience””
So I have less experience than you? You say you study art, hardly anything that will make a difference.
January 28th, 2013
@Oldschool
Stop making up you’re own conclusions. You think everything must be about competition.
I’m talking talking about who’s military is harder or who’s streets are more dangerous.
I’m saying you cant say shit about my country when you haven’t lived here, went to school with American students, and you’ve never enlisted in the US service. THAT’S IT. It’s a fact. You have no credibility about this subject.
I’m not discarding anything you say. I’m not discarding anything that happened to you. So stop acting like it.
You have more experience than me when it comes to the service. And all I’m saying is your “grueling experience” is not as a big deal to me. It’s something I wanted to deal with. If you enjoy doing something, then it’s not hard.
I chose art because its the one field that can make a difference. I chose art as a selfless act. It’s more selfless than serving the country. If I chose military, all I would ever become is a statistic. I want to become something much more than that.
January 28th, 2013
http://listverse.com/2010/01/11/top-10-badasses-of-the-worlds-special-forces/
January 28th, 2013
“I’m saying you cant say shit about my country when you haven’t lived here, went to school with American students, and you’ve never enlisted in the US service. THAT’S IT. It’s a fact. You have no credibility about this subject.”
That’s fair. If you read your comments back and think of it from my point of you it does look like you’re trying to out me down and say military life is piss easy and civi life is where the challenge is. Also you have no say in how our military is compared to our civi life. You still gave an opinion saying civi life is harder when you have no basis for it. Probably the reason I’m being so defensive is because the British military is renowned for being the toughest military training in the world and the day to day life in battalion is harder than training, especially mentally. 22 mile weighted runs is nothing compared to how draining it can be mentally and emotionally, it seemed you were making light of it.
“If I chose military, all I would ever become is a statistic.”
You’re a statistic no matter what. Now I’m a civi I’m just a national insurance number. Reason I joined is because the courses and qualifications military offers is amazing and it seemed like a good way to gain some maturity and discipline. Once I was to decide to come out I’d have all my experience and qualifications to give me a leg up over most others and it worked. I have a great job now and I’m sitting pretty.
Look I don’t want to fall out with you over it because you normally seem alright but I get pissed easy at students. Bad a few call me a baby killer before, which didn’t end well for them but still a lot of student attitudes towards us annoys me.
January 28th, 2013
Had a few call me a baby killer*
January 28th, 2013
Hi Mak.
I’ve been to college and the military, worked civilian jobs, and held the title of U.S. Diplomat for years. My dad didn’t have a quarter million when he married my Mom and raised myself and my brother and sister. I’m now 39, retired after over twenty years of service in the Marines, own three houses in Southern California, and live comfortably off my pension and other investments.
So what’s all this you were saying about military service in the U.S.?
January 28th, 2013
^ Very impressive and deserves to be respected.
January 30th, 2013
@oldschool
I agree, It kinda looks like I was trying to put you down. But the truth is that I wasnt at all. I dont do that to people unless its just a mindless troll-fest. And ive been friends with you for a while, we’ve talked about military stuff before on PSN. Im not going to flip on you like that.
Just trust me, Im never trying to be competitive. I may lecture about shit, but i never try to be better.
As for the whole military thing, I acknowledge that military life is not easy at all. There are specific things in the military that can really break a person, which you dont find in a civilian lifestyle.
If you say that the British SAS are the best, then fine, you can take that title. But just for the record, the US does a have a very strong military, we just dont have the best tier, in your case.
Now, the point i was trying to make was that military life would be easy for ME, and only ME. Civilian life isnt hard. It doesnt have to be, but the fact that I make things so much harder for myself on a day to day basis make my future civilian life a real challenge. I dont fly by on life like alot of people do.
Thats why joining the military would be so easy for me. It would be so easy for me to just let go. It would be so easy to forget about all my future goals and dreams. Joining the military, all you have to do is worry about your objective and maintaining yourself. That, and going through some ridiculous shit. However, I wouldnt mind that. Its not about Military Life VS Civilian Life, Its about MY life. Im not trying to offend anyone here at all. Hopefully you get a better understanding now.
Logically, Yes, you are always a statistic.. many of them. But the point i was trying to make with this, is that youre just like everyone else when you join the service. You all get the same haircut, all dress the same, all train the same, etc. No one goes into the service expecting they are going to be the next Audie Murphy, you know?
Instead, i want to try to become someone in the real world. I want to make a bigger difference. So, in a way, become a bigger “statistic” than i would be in the military.
Lastly, even if I have a fallout with anyone, I don’t act sour about it. I move on about it. I still stay friendly. Theres no need for that shit.
And this whole thing would be pointless to have a fallout over, because this wasnt meant for that. Just a misunderstanding.
Just because im a student, doesnt mean anything. Becoming a student is something incredibly common, I dont know why you would hold that against me. Just because didnt join the service, you act like im subhuman, like im not good enough in your eyes.
Calling you a baby killer is senseless. And i would never call someone that considering the fact that I wanted to join the service myself.
@CarlB
Whats your point?
If youre trying to compare yourself, Dont. You’re in an entirely different generation. But that is impressive.
Read what I said to Oldschool about the military in regards to that. Theres nothing that involves you being with the military.
January 30th, 2013
“If you say that the British SAS are the best, then fine, you can take that title. But just for the record, the US does a have a very strong military, we just dont have the best tier, in your case.”
America has a fantastic military. I’ve served with Anerican troops before and they’re all well trained and highly disciplined lads. Can’t say nothing against them and I wouldn’t. America could blow England off the map a thousand times over, fact. What I meant was England doesn’t have the numbers, money or technology so we rely on superior training. Not just the SAS but our military in general. Our Navy especially doesn’t have anything close to being equaled in training and tactics. I’ve always been proud of the fact that England has the best trained soldiers in the world but we’d get wiped out by America, no doubt. You’re too powerful and we’re too small lol. Anyway America is our closest ally, I fucking love America. Not just saying that, I genuinely do. Life would be totally different if it wasnt for the USA. I’m speaking from a geeks POV now, I can’t get enough of DVDs, especially TV shows lol.
January 30th, 2013
“Doesnt change the fact that 16 year olds are childish.”
I disagree. I’ve seen 16 year old’s on the Delayed Entry Program that are more mature than the average adult U.S. citizen.
“Getting married at 16 or starting a family at that age is completely stupid (At least in the US).”
It depends on the circumstances and maturity of the individual. I’ve seen some that have handled it exceptionally well. I think many adult parents in the U.S. are not qualified to properly raise children.
“They allow it because it happens so much most likely.”
Some historical perspective… age of consent in the U.S. used to be as low as 9.
“In the US, many 16 year olds join the service because they are fuck ups and/or dont have any future.”
In the US, many 16 years olds become so-called “artists” because they are “fuck ups and or/don’t have any future”, and possibly also drug addicts. I’d rather see them at least try for military service than go that route.
“Once in a great while, there will be a determined teenager. But most of them do it because they are too lazy to work for a living. What im getting at is that is a childish decision.”
No less so than deciding to be an “artist”.
“The point is, 16 year olds cant handle responsibility.”
My experience reflects 16 year olds TODAY learn and can handle responsibility very quickly when they decide to join the military in the U.S.
“NO FUCKING TEENAGER HAS A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS SAVED UP TO RAISE A CHILD, NOT TO MENTION, THEY STILL HAVE TO SUPPORT THEMSELVES.”
Actually, there are some that do, and as my parents have demonstrated (along with many of my friends’), not having a quarter million dollars available doesn’t make a parent less qualified, in REALITY, to raise a child in a quality manner. In fact, I would say it’s just as likely that a child who has parents of less means may learn more responsibility.
“…because it’s a guarantee it wasn’t planned.”
Like the average American parent, regardless of age, “plans” properly for every child. Not.
“Being in the service isn’t working for a living. It’s easier. When you’re in the service, you have it made. It gets hard once you’re out and the economy smacks you in the face.
And FYI, I’m not talking about war. I’m talking about the millions of young idiots siting idle in their little bases fooling around doing nothing. There’s nothing hard about that.”
You have no idea what you are talking about, do you?
Being in the military, regardless of whether or not you are in a war situation, is work. We train constantly, and when we are not training, we are doing our jobs on base. You are talking out your ass. Just because they might “appear” to you to be doing nothing for the couple of minutes you happen to observe them whenever you go on your mamby-pamby visit to a base doesn’t mean they don’t work hard.
“Those kids will know nothing about having a responsibility of their job. They won’t know what it’s like to go under so much stress when your job demands a deadline for something. THAT right there is much harder than being in the service. Not to mention you have to pay bills and such, you’re not loitering on a base.”
They learn and know everything about having not only the responsibility of doing their job, but being responsible for the people around them. Maybe you think dabbling on some canvas with paint is somehow “tougher”, but I can personally guarantee you the military challenges you both mentally and physically. “Paying bills” while you are living in relative comfort means nothing. There are plenty of military members who have to “pay bills” with much less money than they would get for doing the same job as a civilian.
“I’m talking about dumb kids from the US. I don’t know about you, but I actually went to Highschool. I also went to a career center. All the stupid fuck ups that I went to school with, all the kids with low grades who were lazy in their classes all signed up for the Navy/Army and a few to the military.
This one girl I know studied to be in the Air Force, then fucked up, and chose Navy. What a waste.
Yes, I AM a student. This is why I know more about what’s going on than you do.”
Yes, I’ve also been a college student AND in the military, so I’ve seen it from both sides. Welfare recipients have the luxury of being “lazy”. People who decide to join the military may be initially lazy, but that is quickly weeded out in boot camp. They don’t have a choice but to do some very physically and mentally challenging work at that point or get kicked out.
“Go outside and observe society… Watch tv, documentaries. Google shit.”
Based on over two decades of personal first hand experience, I can state with confidence your observations are extremely lacking and highly inaccurate. You have no military experience and it shows.
“My goal was to join the Military and devote my entire life to the military. I wanted to be put in action, and I didn’t care if I were to die. I just didn’t care. The military, the thing YOU consider so hard, was MY EASY WAY OUT of life.”
You cared enough to make a goal, but you didn’t have enough responsibility to actually achieve it, and instead changed your mind when it came time to commit. Now you are talking shit about the people who did commit and currently defend this country, with their lives if necessary. You should be ashamed. The reason I stayed in as long as I have is because of those young people’s honor, greatness, and hard work. That is something to be grateful for, not belittle.
“the point i was trying to make was that military life would be easy for ME, and only ME.”
Sorry bub, but you don’t know that unless you have done it. And you haven’t. Think and postulate as much as you want about how you IMAGINE it would be so “easy” for you, but you are talking out your ass with no real first hand experience.
“Joining the military, all you have to do is worry about your objective and maintaining yourself.”
No, simply no. You also have to worry about everyone around you as well, not just yourself. And there are several times you just can’t make mistakes, even though the missions and objectives change constantly without notice. Make a mistake on the canvas and you just get a new one. Make a mistake on the battlefield and you and your unit could die.
January 30th, 2013
Another point you are missing, the people who have military service then went on to accomplish greater things, attributing that they would not have been able to without the responsibility, discipline, and mental toughness they learned in the military.
January 30th, 2013
Great response, can tell you know what you’re talking about and have more first hand experience than me and MAK combined.